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View Poll Results: Select the GOAT OH HS Wrestler. Post HS info is just FYI.
Lee Kemp 1974 (see commentary below) 5 7.69%
Alan Fried 1989 (see commentary below) 22 33.85%
Harry Lester 2001 (see commentary below) 5 7.69%
David Taylor 2009 (see commentary below) 10 15.38%
Logan Stieber 2010 (see commentary below) 23 35.38%
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Old 07-13-18, 09:49 AM
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Final OH HS GOAT Poll

I'll get the Final Poll posted on this thread later today or tomorrow. But first I thought that it would be worthwhile to post some info about the Top 5. Hopefully others will contribute to the commentary other than me. The five that made the finals are truly some of America's GOAT HS wrestlers, not just Ohio's. Here's the 5 that made the Final Poll:
Lee Kemp
Alan Fried
Harry Lester
David Taylor
Logan Stieber

For a summary on these 5 I used Team USA's Bio for Lester, Taylor and Stieber. They only maintain a Bio for active wrestlers, so for Fried and Kemp I used other sources. Fried was listed as the #2 US HS wrestler for 1985-2005 in an Intermat Wrestling article, and I used the commentary written by the author of that for him. I added Wiki info on his college and international wrestling. For Kemp I used Wiki and posted a link to a Inside Wisconsin Sports article that makes for a great read.

And for the purists who don't think I should include post HS info, I'll assume you're intelligent enough to sort through the info and make your selection as you see fit. For me, I think it's difficult to think about any of these greats in isolation of their HS career only. For people that really follow the sport, you can't not know that Stieber is a Sr level World champ and a 4x NCAA champ. Even a casual follower knows that. A casual follower, however, doesn't know that Lee Kemp never stepped on a mat until he was a HS freshman and got cut from the BBall team...or that he beat the defending state champ and runner-up on his way to his first of two OH titles...or that he beat the legendary Dan Gable when he was 18 years old.

Comparing wrestlers from different eras is like comparing Babe Ruth to Barry Bonds (forgetting about the steroids). It's not an exact science, but it's fun to have the debates. Now on to the legends.
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Lee Kemp

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High school
As a freshman at Chardon high school, Kemp got involved in wrestling after being cut from the basketball team. He made the varsity as a sophomore for the 1972 season and finished with an 11-8-3 record. The next two seasons he was an Ohio State high school champion and finished undefeated in his junior and senior years. His first state title included wins over the defending state champion and the previous years' state runnerup. His career record in high school was 78-8-3. Prior to matriculating at the University of Wisconsin, Lee was one of only four American Junior wrestlers that recorded a dual meet win against a tough Junior Soviet team on their Ohio stop of an eight city United States tour (which resulted in 80 total matches being contested). Lee also won the Junior Freestyle Nationals in the summer of 1974.

College
Kemp started for Wisconsin as a true freshman and finished second at the Big Ten tournament at 150 pounds. He also reached the finals of the 1975 NCAA tournament and lost a split referees decision to Chuck Yagla of the University of Iowa. That was the last loss of Kemp's career. Kemp's only losses in his collegiate career were to three wrestlers in his freshman year

The following season, Kemp moved up a weight class to 158 pounds. Kemp won the NCAA title at 158 pounds the next three seasons and the only blemish on his record was a single tie finishing with 110 collegiate wins, which included the historic win over the legendary Dan Gable in November of Lee's sophomore year, while he was still 18 years old. March 10, 2010 Inside Wisconsin Sports Article,"The Day Lee Kemp Beat the Great Dan Gable", by Mike Beacom. He completed his college career with a record of 143-6-1 and 47 falls. He had an 96-match winning streak (no losses or ties) and a 110-match unbeaten streak.| National Wrestling Hall of Fame [2]

Freestyle
Kemp, in his first major international tournament, won a gold medal at 74 kg (163 pounds) at the world freestyle championships in August 1978. At the age of 21 years and 8 months, he had become the youngest American to capture a world or Olympic gold medal. He held that distinction for 30 years until Henry Cejudo won the Olympic gold medal at the 2008 Beijing Olympics.

He repeated as world champion in 1979 and 1982—becoming the first American to win three times—and added a bronze medal in 1981. He also won a gold medal at the 1979 and 1983 Pan American games. He was the U.S. freestyle champion for five straight years from 1979 through 1983. The U.S. boycott of the Moscow Olympics prevented him from winning the ultimate prize—an Olympic gold medal. Kemp retired in 1984 after finishing second at the U.S. Olympic trials. His record in all international competition was 53-8.

Kemp was inducted into the National Wrestling Hall of Fame and Museum in 1990. Then at the Beijing Olympics, where he was one of the freestyle coaches for the U.S., he became just the fifth American to be inducted into the FILA International Wrestling Hall of Fame.

"The Day Lee Kemp Beat the Great Dan Gable"
http://www.leekemp.com/wp-content/up...s_article1.pdf
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Alan Fried

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If Mocco personified the word intimidation, Fried personified the word intensity. The first four-time Junior Nationals freestyle champion, Fried's opponents appeared to be stuck in slow motion while he was in fast forward.

Fried's most impressive victory may have been defeating NCAA champion Clar Anderson after his junior year in high school. Fried competed in the Olympic Trials that summer, where he would face his future coach, John Smith. Those who were there report that young Fried actually scored the first takedown against America's greatest freestyle wrestler ever.

Perhaps most interesting was that on the way to winning Junior Nationals as a sophomore, he actually scored a technical fall over a senior from Iowa by the name of Tom Brands -- his future nemesis in college. Even as a redshirting freshman at Oklahoma State University, Fried defeated Brands at an open tournament. Brands would go on to win his first NCAA title -- and repeat the following two years with victories over Fried in the finals.

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Fried was born in Poughkeepsie, New York to Kenneth (1942–2003) and Elaine Fried (1945–2004, née Agin). The couple also had another son, Adam.

Fried began wrestling in the 5th grade at the Longwood YMCA in Macedonia, Ohio, where a trio of coaches had a major impact on him: head coach Dave Mariola and assistants Bernie Weiskopf and Tim Rutherford. A year later, he traveled to neighboring Pennsylvania to win the Pennsylvania Junior state championship; he repeated as champion the following two years prior to entering high school.[1]

Despite being Jewish and living on Cleveland's east side, Fried attended St. Edward High School, an all-boys catholic high school on the city's west side. The school was a wrestling powerhouse before Fried arrived, having won 8 Ohio High School Athletic Association (OHSAA) "big school" state titles under legendary coach Howard E. Ferguson as well as several national titles. Fried helped add two more state titles to St. Edward's streak of 10 consecutive state championships (1978–1987). The streak was broken in 1988, Fried's junior year. Fried's nemisis during High School was Patrick Berdysz from Mentor, he had faced him often.

Fried flourished under the disciplined Ferguson. He had a tremendous high school wrestling career, amassing 139-3 record. He was a three-time Ohio State Champion (1987, 1988, 1989), and finished third (1986). He graduated from St. Edward in 1989.[2]

He would also compete in the USA Junior Freestyle Championships, where he would become the first wrestler to win four Junior National Freestyle titles.[3]

Collegiate and international wrestling career
Fried attended Oklahoma State University. The Cowboys had a wrestling program steeped in tradition. He became a three-time All-American, reaching the NCAA finals in 1991 (second place finish, 134 lbs.), 1992 (second place finish, 134 lbs.), and 1994 (National Champion, 142 lbs.).[3] His high placements helped the Cowboys become team NCAA National Champions in 1990 and 1994.[4]

His career record at Oklahoma State was 129-6, which ranks as the second most wins all-time for the Cowboys. Five of his six collegiate losses came at the hands of 1996 Olympic gold medalist and three-time NCAA champion Tom Brands from the University of Iowa. He also ranks third in career winning percentage (.956), fourth in most consecutive matches without a defeat (65), and seventh in career falls (44).[5] He graduated in 1994 with a Bachelor of Science (B.S.) in Psychology.

In international competition, Alan represented the USA on two age level World teams and in numerous Olympic age level international competitions. In the 20 years old and under World Championships in 1991, held in Previdza, Czechoslovakia, Alan won the Gold Medal, beating the wrestler from the former Soviet Union in the finals and was awarded the "Best Technical Wrestler" for the championships. In the 18 years old and under category, Fried placed 4th at World Championships in 1988, held in Wolfurt, Austria.

He finished 6th in the 1996 and 2000 Olympic Trials, both at 152 lbs., and missed the U.S. Olympic Team. Injuries to his back and shoulder as well as a broken elbow had taken a toll and required two back surgeries in 1996 and two shoulder surgeries.[6] These issues factored into his retirement from wrestling in 2000.
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Harry Lester

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JUSTIN LESTER
2015-16 Team USA Ranking: No. 1 at 71 kg/156 lbs.
Years on Team USA: 10 (2005-10, 2011-16)
Residence: Colorado Springs, Colo.
Club: U.S. Army WCAP
Coach: Shon Lewis
College: Northern Michigan, Iowa State
High School: Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio (Cuyahoga Valley Christian Academy)
Born: Sept. 30, 1983 (Age 32)
Height: 5-7

Career Highlights
- Two-time World bronze medalist (2006, 2007)
- 2012 Olympian
- Eight-time U.S. World Team member
- Six-time U.S. Open champion
- 2007 Pan American Games champion
- 2005 World University Games bronze medalist
- 1999 Cadet World champion

Career Biography
2016: Third in U.S. Open…
2015: Second in Bill Farrell International… Second in CISM Military World Games… Eighth in World Championships… U.S. World Team Trials Champion… U.S. Open Champion…
2014: First in Minnesota Storm Holiday Cup… DNP in World Championships… Phase II World Team Trials champion… U.S. Open Champion…
2013: U.S. World Team Trials champion… Sixth in U.S. Open…
2012: Eighth in Olympic Games… Third in Gedza International… U.S. Olympic Team Trials champion… U.S. Open champion…
2011: Second in New York AC International Open… Sunkist Kids International Open champion… Fifth in World Championships… U.S. World Team Trials champion… U.S. Open champion… Granma Cup champion… Dave Schultz Memorial International champion…
2009: DNP in World Championships… U.S. World Team Trials champion… U.S. Nationals champion… Dave Schultz Memorial International champion…
2008: Third in U.S. Olympic Team Trials… Second in Dave Schultz Memorial International…
2007: World bronze medalist… Member of World team champions… Fifth in Ion Cornianu Memorial Tournament (Romania)… Pan American Games gold medalist… U.S. World Team Trials champion… University Nationals champion in Greco-Roman and freestyle… Fourth in World Cup…
2006: World bronze medalist… U.S. World Team Trials champion…Second in Turneul International (Romania)… Dave Schultz Memorial International champion…Fifth in Poland Open
2005: NYAC Holiday Championships champion…DNP at World Championships… Third in World University Games… University World Team Trials champion… U.S. World Team Trials champion… U.S. Nationals champion… Third in Petrov International (Bulgaria)… Dave Schultz Memorial International champion…
2004: Second in New York AC Christmas International… Sunkist Kids International Open champion… Sixth in U.S. Olympic Team Trials… Third in U.S. Nationals…
2003: New York AC Christmas International champion… Third in Sunkist Kids International Open… Seventh in U.S. World Team Trials… Fifth in U.S. Nationals… Fifth in Dave Schultz Memorial International…
2002: Fifth in Sunkist Kids International Open…
USA Age-Group: 2003 and 2005 University Nationals champion... Fifth in 2004 University World Championships… Fifth in 2003 Junior World Championships... 2003 FILA Junior World Team Trials champion... 2000 Junior Nationals champion... 1999 Cadet Nationals champion... Second in 1999 Cadet Nationals (freestyle)... 1999 Cadet World Champion (freestyle)...
College: Attended Northern Michigan Univ., where he was a member of the U.S. Olympic Education Center program… Coached by Ivan Ivanov... Graduated with degrees in history and geography... Previously attended Iowa State Univ., where he was coached by Bobby Douglas...
High School: Attended Cuyahoga Valley Christian Academy, where he was coached by Dave Bergan... Four-time state champion (1998-2001)... Career record of 165-2... Earned second team All-State honors in football...
Personal: Son of Fred and Verleane Lester... Has two daughters, Zuriana and Zayla… Has three brothers, Fred, Ryan and Damion, and two sisters, Sandra and Kenya... Nickname is Harry… Hobbies include playing chess and fishing...
Awards: 2001 ASICS Tiger High School First-Team All-American...
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David Taylor

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2017-18 Team USA Ranking: No. 2 at 86 kg/189 lbs.
Years on Team USA: 5 (2013-18)
Residence: State College, Pa.
Club: Titan Mercury WC/Nittany Lion WC
College: Penn State
High School: St. Paris Graham (Ohio)
Born: Dec. 5, 1990
Height: 6’0”

Career Highlights
- Third in 2016 U.S. Olympic Team Trials
- Two-time U.S. World Team Trials runner-up (2014, 2017)
- Third in 2015 U.S. World Team Trials
- Two-time U.S. Open champion (2015, 2017)
- World Cup champion (2017)
- Third in World University Games (2013)
- Two-time Grand Prix of Spain champion (2015, 2016)
- Paris International champion (2017)
- Two-time NCAA champion for Penn State (2012, 2014)
- Two-time Dan Hodge Trophy recipient, as nation’s best college wrestler (2012, 2014)

Career Biography
2017: Second in U.S. World Team Trials… U.S. Open champion… World Cup champion… Paris International champion…
2016: World Freestyle Wrestling Clubs Cup champion (Titan Mercury WC)… Second in U.S. Open…Third in U.S. Olympic Team Trials… Grand Prix of Spain champion… �: Stepan Sargysyan Cup champion… Grand Prix of Spain champion… Third in U.S. World Team Trials… U.S. Open champion… Fifth in Golden Grand Prix Final… Fifth in Yasar Dogu International…
2014: Second in U.S. World Team Trials… Second in U.S. Open…
2013: Third in World University Games… Third in U.S. World Team Trials… University Nationals champion… Second in U.S. Open…
2008: U.S. Olympic Team Trials qualifier…
2007: Eighth in Junior World Championships… FILA Junior World Team Trials champion…
2005: FILA Cadet Nationals champion in freestyle and Greco-Roman…
College: 2012 and 2014 NCAA champion for Penn State… 2012 and 2014 Hodge Trophy award winner as college wrestler of the year… Second in 2011 and 2013 NCAA Championships… Four-time Big Ten champion… 2011, 2012 and 2014 Big Ten Wrestler of the Year… Led Penn State to four NCAA titles…
USA Age-Group: 2007 USAW Junior Nationals champion in Greco-Roman and freestyle… 2006 USAW Cadet Nationals champion in Greco-Roman… 2005 USAW Cadet Nationals freestyle champion… Second in 2005 USAW Cadet Nationals in Greco-Roman…
High School: Four-time Ohio state champion… Two-time ASICS first-team All-American… Dave Schultz Award winner for nation’s top high school wrestler…
Personal: Son of David and Kathy Taylor… Has one sister, Alex…
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Logan Stieber

LOGAN STIEBER
2017-18 Team USA Ranking: No. 1 at 61 kg/134 lbs.
Years on Team USA: 3 (2013-14, 2016-18)
Residence: Columbus, Ohio
Club: Titan Mercury WC/Ohio RTC
College: Ohio State
High School: Monroeville (Ohio)
Born: Jan. 24, 1991
Height: 5’5”

Career Highlights
- World champion (2016)
- Junior World silver medalist (2011)
- Two-time U.S. World Team member (2016-17)
- Grand Prix of Spain champion (2017)
- Four-time NCAA champion for Ohio State (2011-15)
- Four-time Big Ten champion (2011-15)

Career Biography
2017: DNP in World Championships… Grand Prix of Spain champion… U.S. World Team Trials champion… Third in Pan American championships…
2016: World champion… U.S. World Team Trials champion… Second in U.S. Open…Second in Outstanding Ukrainian Memorial International…Third in Alexander Medved International…
2015: Second in Golden Grand Prix Finals… Second in Bill Farrell International… Fourth in U.S. Open…
2014: Third in U.S. Open…
2013: Third in U.S. World Team Trials… Fourth in U.S. Open…
2012: Ziolkowski International champion… Second in U.S. Olympic Team Trials…
2011: Second in Junior World Championships… Fourth in U.S. World Team Trials…
2010: Sixth in U.S. Open…
2009: Fourth in U.S. World Team Trials… Third in U.S. Open…
College: Four-time NCAA champion for Ohio State from 2011-15… Member of Ohio State’s 2015 NCAA championship team… Four-time Big Ten champion… 2015 Hodge Trophy winner…
USA Age-Group: Third in 2011 FILA Junior Nationals… Second in 2009 FILA Junior World Team Trials… 2008 FILA Junior Nationals champion… 2008 USAW Junior Nationals championing Freestyle and Greco-Roman… 2007 USAW Cadet Freestyle Nationals champion… 2007 FILA Cadet Nationals champion… 2006 USAW Cadet Nationals champion…
High School: Four-time Ohio state champion for Monroeville… Won Dave Schultz High School Excellence National Award and Junior Hodge Trophy… 184-1 record, winning final 179 matches…
Personal: Son of Jeff and Tina Stieber… Younger brother, Hunter, wrestled for Ohio State… Hunter placed third at 2013 NCAAs and sixth in 2012…
Awards: Outstanding Wrestler at 2016 Bill Farrell International/Non-Olympic Weight Trials…
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Instagram: @_logiebear_
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Very impressive Fab 5, but I was a bit disappointed not to see my name listed among the Fab 5!
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Very impressive Fab 5, but I was a bit disappointed not to see my name listed among the Fab 5!
You're a write-in nominee.
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Old 07-13-18, 05:12 PM
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Went with Lee Kemp... beat Dan Gable as an 18 year old is all I need to hear!
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Went with Lee Kemp... beat Dan Gable as an 18 year old is all I need to hear!
You shouldn't even get to vote if you didn't know that.
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You shouldn't even get to vote if you didn't know that.
I knew that, but was simply restating it for emphasis. This style has been used for centuries by all the great writers (Shakespeare, Chesterton, Hemingway, Tolstoy, me) when writing on yappi.
I’ve already got bdhof rigging the system against me, and now you’re piling on!

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Quite a bit of, "restating it for emphasis" goes on around here.
Sixth at Flonationals isn't good enough.
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Quite a bit of, "restating it for emphasis" goes on around here.
Sixth at Flonationals isn't good enough.
Agreed, ps is very smug.
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Friday 10 pm update on Pope Francis for GOAT.....

I’m only trailing Lee Kemp by 1 vote!
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Friday 10 pm update on Pope Francis for GOAT.....

I’m only trailing Lee Kemp by 1 vote!

You’re in good company


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Lee Kemp isn't getting much love on here, other than from the Pope. That's somewhat understandable since this is technically GOAT OH HS and not overall OH GOAT. He's going against three 4xers and a 3xer, all of whom are legends, and three still writing their wrestling BIOs (Lester, Taylor and Stieber). Regardless, what a remarkable athlete he must be to first step on a mat as a freshman and then win a couple of state titles, 3 NCAA titles and 3 world championships.
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Hellickson told me once that Kemp would win every athletic test between all wrestlers he ever coached-- running, jumping, agility drill, whatever. Remarkable athlete which is why didnt take him long to be elite-- but not ohio's best ever in hs probably.
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There were three wrestlers as I was growing up; Gable, Kemp and Dave Schultz.
I still went with Al in the poll. If I had been younger/older and wrestled around Kemp, Lester or Steiber...might have chosen one of them?
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There were 3 wrestlers when I was growing up too - Dan Gable, Dan Gable and Dan Gable. He was the face of US wrestling in the late 60s and early 70s. I’m not sure that anyone has had the same impact on the US wrestling community as he had back then. Kemp had better NCAA and international credentials than Gable but wasn’t Dan Gable. Neither was 6x world champ John Smith or 5x world champ Jordan Burroughs. Obviously Gable’s legend grew as he racked up NCAA titles as a coach. But he was special back in the good old days.


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There were 3 wrestlers when I was growing up too - Dan Gable, Dan Gable and Dan Gable. He was the face of US wrestling in the late 60s and early 70s. I’m not sure that anyone has had the same impact on the US wrestling community as he had back then. Kemp had better NCAA and international credentials than Gable but wasn’t Dan Gable. Neither was 6x world champ John Smith or 5x world champ Jordan Burroughs. Obviously Gable’s legend grew as he racked up NCAA titles as a coach. But he was special back in the good old days.


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John Smith was the Michael Jordan of my time during high school( Gable was like the Magic Johnson and Jordan Burroughs being Lebron James).
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Jordan Burroughs, BTW, can tie John Smith at the top of the ladder for USA if he wins Gold this fall giving him his 6th World title. Kyle Snyder can win his 4th title placing him behind only Smith, Burroughs and Bruce Baumgartner (5 titles).
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Everyone on this list lost at least twice in HS, except Stieber. This is Stieber's only loss, and it was to another wrestler in this top 5 poll. Based solely on HS performance, I went with Stieber.
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Classic match. First time I've seen it.
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Here's another good one. The quality of the video is a little rough. If you didn't know any better you'd almost think that it was filmed about 40 years ago or so.
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Old 07-15-18, 07:37 AM
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Everyone on this list lost at least twice in HS, except Stieber. This is Stieber's only loss, and it was to another wrestler in this top 5 poll. Based solely on HS performance, I went with Stieber.
Fair enough. If comparing the one loss to two, hopefully you also considered their schools schedule. Did M'ville send their four studs anywhere else, other than Ironman?
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Fair enough. If comparing the one loss to two, hopefully you also considered their schools schedule. Did M'ville send their four studs anywhere else, other than Ironman?
I was under the impression that the Ironman was a pretty decent tournament (sarcasm font).
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Fair enough. If comparing the one loss to two, hopefully you also considered their schools schedule. Did M'ville send their four studs anywhere else, other than Ironman?
Brecksville.

FWIW, at the Ironman, Stieber beat Jamie Clark in the semis. Clark beat Taylor in a dual later that year.
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Old 07-15-18, 11:49 AM
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each & every loss by the Monroville 4 in hs was at Ironman. If no Ironman we would have four unbeaten hs champs in ohio, all from Mville. .....instead we have NONE for a 4 year career, though Tom Milkovich was unbeaten in his 3 years.

Taylor wont win this poll, but for HS only he was best -- probably-- could anyone withstand what Taylor could do on top, so rare in HS ? The shorter wrestlers would have a huge problem as Stieber did in the video.

if anyone has it, show Taylor as a junior moving up a wt to beat another HS 4xer senior Colin Palmer in a dual.
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I was at the Palmer vs Taylor match @ SPG - the best dual I’ve seen in 49 years of wrestling/coaching/watching the sport. I think SPG went on to a #1 National ranking that year.


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