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Old 08-12-17, 10:27 AM
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White nationalist rallies in Charlottesville

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White nationalists and counterprotesters are expected to flood downtown Charlottesville Saturday as the Virginia city braces for the "Unite the Right" rally.

By noon, thousands are expected to gather in Emancipation Park, where barricades have been placed in proximity to the statue of Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee.

The rally comes hours after a large group of torch-bearing white nationalists marched through the University of Virginia campus Friday night.

Outraged by the city's plans to remove the trace of its Confederate past, alt-right activists and Ku Klux Klan members have come to the city in recent months.

The city has become ground zero for white nationalists, neo-Confederates and alt-right activists from across the country protesting the removal of Confederate monuments.

Police anticipate the rally will attract as many as 2,000 to 6,000 people and could be the "largest hate-gathering of its kind in decades in the United States," as described by the Southern Poverty Law Center.

Approximately 1,000 law enforcement officers and first responders, including the largest deployment by Virginia State Police in 30 years will also be on site, Charlottesville City Manager Maurice Jones said.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/12/us/cha...lly/index.html'

Last night's rally turned violent
https://twitter.com/jnsanchez/status/896351164756840448

Should rallies featuring hate groups like Neo-Nazis, the KKK, etc. be allowed to transpire in 2017? (Not to mention last night's got more and more violent as the night went on, yet there were no police in riot gear, etc)
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Old 08-12-17, 11:30 AM
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Black lives matter. Don't forget them in you list of hate groups.

Isn't this protected speech even if it's hate filled?
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Old 08-12-17, 11:34 AM
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Black lives matter. Don't forget them in you list of hate groups.

Isn't this protected speech even if it's hate filled?
So BLM are on the same level of the KKK (who have killed a countless amount of people) and neo-nazis (who borrow their ideas from a man who is repsonsible for the death of millions)?
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Old 08-12-17, 11:37 AM
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State of emergency declared
http://thehill.com/homenews/news/346...-protests-turn
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Old 08-12-17, 11:38 AM
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So BLM are on the same level of the KKK (who have killed a countless amount of people) and neo-nazis (who borrow their ideas from a man who is repsonsible for the death of millions)?
Hate is hate.
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Old 08-12-17, 11:41 AM
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Hate is hate.
The KKK and Neo-Nazis are classified hate groups. BLM is not. Try again.
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Old 08-12-17, 12:06 PM
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You don't need to protect speech that everyone likes, it's unpopular speech that needs to be protected.

The marketplace of ideas is a better judgement of right and wrong then men with guns telling people what they can and can't say.

The people using violence instead of ideas to counteract these protestors are demonstrating hate as well, albeit of a different kind.
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Old 08-12-17, 12:07 PM
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So BLM are on the same level of the KKK (who have killed a countless amount of people) and neo-nazis (who borrow their ideas from a man who is repsonsible for the death of millions)?
Pretty much

BLM totals 11 murdered cops and 9 others wounded......

Seattle teacher calls for murder during BLM protest.....

BLM Activist: Kill whites and cops..... This is the good part - "The video has been removed by YouTube, who have rightfully labelled it “hate speech”".

You want to legitimize BLM because of the relatively low body count? How many does BLM have to murder before they become a hate group? Because some of the people protesting to keep the statues are the Daughters of the Confederacy and the Sons of the Confederacy who have killed no one.
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Old 08-12-17, 12:09 PM
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The KKK and Neo-Nazis are classified hate groups. BLM is not. Try again.
It's not PC to label black or Muslim groups as hate groups even if they are exactly the same as other hate groups.
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Old 08-12-17, 12:11 PM
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Still waiting for POTUS to tweet and denounce/criticize the protestors carrying actual nazi flags while wearing MAGA hats like he did when people protested him winning
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Old 08-12-17, 12:19 PM
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The KKK and Neo-Nazis are classified hate groups. BLM is not. Try again.
No need for me to try again. Swmcinci already beat you up there. So you pivoted to attacking the president.
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Old 08-12-17, 12:19 PM
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Still waiting for POTUS to tweet and denounce/criticize the protestors carrying actual nazi flags while wearing MAGA hats like he did when people protested him winning
Two years later we are still waiting for former President Obama to apologize for jumping to a conclusion on Eric Garner and putting the cops and people of Ferguson in the crosshairs of a DOJ witch hunt. But then he did the same in Baltimore, Philadelphia, and Boston...... and never apologized to the cops that he besmirched.
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Old 08-12-17, 12:32 PM
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BLM Activist: Kill whites and cops..... This is the good part - "The video has been removed by YouTube, who have rightfully labelled it “hate speech”.
Citing infowars is probably not a great idea
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Old 08-12-17, 12:33 PM
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Citing infowars is probably not a great idea
Real news!
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Old 08-12-17, 01:12 PM
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So BLM are on the same level of the KKK (who have killed a countless amount of people) and neo-nazis (who borrow their ideas from a man who is repsonsible for the death of millions)?
There are a lot of racist in the BLM and on the left.
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Old 08-12-17, 01:33 PM
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Real news!
Buzzfeed.
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Old 08-12-17, 01:36 PM
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Yes they should be allowed to organize. What kind of stupid asz question is that.
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Old 08-12-17, 01:56 PM
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Sounds like antifa showed up, as usual started the violence, and now both sides have pretty much gone full ratard.

Does that sum it up, or did I miss something?
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Old 08-12-17, 01:58 PM
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Still waiting for POTUS to tweet and denounce/criticize the protestors carrying actual nazi flags while wearing MAGA hats like he did when people protested him winning
Now that he has come out against the violence what are you going to complain about next?
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Old 08-12-17, 02:00 PM
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Sounds like antifa showed up, as usual started the violence, and now both sides have pretty much gone full ratard.

Does that sum it up, or did I miss something?
Shocking /s
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Old 08-12-17, 02:11 PM
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The KKK and Neo-Nazis are classified hate groups. BLM is not. Try again.
Who classifies them? Personally, I would classify BLM as a hate group and I'm sure millions of other Americans would do the same.

As to the question, no, I would not stop these gatherings from happening. Free speech needs to be protected and I stand with the ACLU in their support of this gathering.
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Old 08-12-17, 02:15 PM
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Just to add to this, the people tearing down confederate statues have alot in common with the Muslim extremists that decided to tear down other religions significant works of art and statues. IMO, it's scary that we live in a time where people try to erase historical references to something that they don't agree with.
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Old 08-12-17, 02:30 PM
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About what I expected this group to look like

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Old 08-12-17, 02:32 PM
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Chess club.
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Old 08-12-17, 02:35 PM
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Buzzfeed.
A more respected and more accurate news source than Alex Jones and his vitamins
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Old 08-12-17, 02:36 PM
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Absolutely no one respects Buzzfeed They're both useless sources
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Old 08-12-17, 02:36 PM
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About what I expected this group to look like

Well they were on a college campus. Today's crowd looks a lot older
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Old 08-12-17, 02:45 PM
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I was making fun of them. It's amazing that both the SJW's and white nationalist gatherings often end up looking exactly the same. Filled with a bunch of whiny beta males. Two sides of the same coin in so many ways.
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Old 08-12-17, 02:47 PM
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A more respected and more accurate news source than Alex Jones and his vitamins
Okay.
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Old 08-12-17, 03:01 PM
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1 dead after someone drove a car through a crowd of counter-protestors
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