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Old 06-28-17, 11:56 AM
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The Offseason

Chris Paul opts in to his current contract which ends after the upcoming season. Then traded to Houston.

Houston gets: Chris Paul
Clippers get: Patrick Beverly, Lou Williams, Sam Dekker and a 2018 1st round pick (top 3 protected).

Solid haul for an aging one year guarantee who publicly said he would go to Houston anyway. Curious to see where Blake Griffin signs.

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Old 06-28-17, 01:05 PM
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Interesting. I'm trusting the NBA won't step in and undo the trade (sarcasm). Curious to see how Paul and Harden work together. I'm also curious as to what cap money Houston has as those two will still need some help.
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Old 06-28-17, 02:18 PM
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Hmmm...didn't hear what Houston had to give up until now. I don't think that's a good deal at all for Houston. They are losing two really good guards (Beverly/ Williams) and replacing them with 1. Houston was good last year because of their depth.
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Old 06-28-17, 02:49 PM
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Paul will definitely make them better, but it's not enough to get them out of the west and they basically gave up a key piece of their future with the draft pick.
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Old 06-28-17, 02:54 PM
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Rockets definitely gave up too much. Interested if the Clippers had another offer for Paul on the back-burner or if they just made the Rockets think they did. If Paul wanted to play with Harden that bad he could have waited 2 more days and opted out to be a FA.

Talk is that Houston will try to deal for Paul George, but what do they have that they can give Indy? Eric Gordon and Kyle Anderson?
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Old 06-28-17, 03:38 PM
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I don't think NBA teams, except the bad ones, even care about draft picks anymore. You wonder if James Harden is the Melo of the western conference. Always seems to be attitude problems on the teams those two are on. Still can't believe Houston got knocked out of he playoffs by a a Kwai-less Spurs team in game 6, spanked actually.
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Old 06-28-17, 05:05 PM
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You're wrong, yet again, 13. Teams highly value draft picks because they can get young, talented players on very team friendly contracts. The reason they are traded away though is because it is still a risk, especially for the better team with less talent available to choose from, of making the wrong pick.

I don't seem to recall anyone mentioning Harden's attitude while he was in Oklahoma City.
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Old 06-28-17, 05:40 PM
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Probably qualifies as a hot take, but I don't think this will work out. Harden & Paul are two of the most ball-dominant players in the NBA. And Paul has a lot of miles on his body, can he hold up running D'Antoni's fast paced offense and having to defend the other teams best guard?
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Old 06-28-17, 05:46 PM
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Teams don't value late 1st round picks ... lottery picks, yes ... late round, who are you kidding.
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Old 06-29-17, 06:27 AM
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Teams don't value late 1st round picks ... lottery picks, yes ... late round, who are you kidding.
Some yes, others no. For cash strapped teams, it can provide a useful piece in off the bench at a very low cost.
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Old 06-29-17, 06:29 AM
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Probably qualifies as a hot take, but I don't think this will work out. Harden & Paul are two of the most ball-dominant players in the NBA. And Paul has a lot of miles on his body, can he hold up running D'Antoni's fast paced offense and having to defend the other teams best guard?
I don't think this works out either. And they're planning on giving a 32 year old, high milage, injury prone player the max after this coming season? I get it's an arms race in the NBA but I think Morey missed here.
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Old 06-29-17, 08:02 AM
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Some yes, others no. For cash strapped teams, it can provide a useful piece in off the bench at a very low cost.
Like GS. And they've held onto their draft picks and drafted very well over the past 5-6 years.
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Like many of you I'm not sure how CP3 and Harden co-exist.

Harden was always a very good scorer as a 2-guard, but they put the ball in his hands this past year and he exploded. However, he does turn it over a lot and his defense is bad. This puts him back at 2, and CP3 will certainly distribute the ball, reduce turnovers, and play better defense on point.

If I am Clint Capela, I'm smiling. He will be getting all the lobs/dunks from CP3. If Gordon/Ariza/Anderson all shoot 3's like they did last year, Houston will be even better than last year. But only if Harden does not sulk about no longer running the point.
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Old 06-29-17, 12:27 PM
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Given he's spent 12.5% of his career at the 1 and he has been recruiting Chris Paul to Houston for a year, I don't think the Rockets are too worried about him sulking about going to the 2.
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Old 06-29-17, 01:57 PM
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Was really hoping CP3 would end up in San Antonio. Could have seen that team giving GS trouble. Oh well
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I'd have to think someone spoke to Harden before the deal went down.
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Old 06-30-17, 08:59 PM
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Raise you hand if you had OKC as Paul George's landing spot
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Old 07-01-17, 06:16 AM
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Maybe it's time for the Cavs to have a surprise...BAM!
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Old 07-01-17, 07:56 AM
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I'd have to think someone spoke to Harden before the deal went down.
Nooooo...LeBron is the only star in the league that is consulted on pending moves, right? I mean LeBron runs the Cavs and they all do whatever he says, right? Other teams can't possibly consult with their stars regarding trades and players can they?
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Old 07-01-17, 08:04 AM
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Madge is freaking out for no apparent reason again.
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Old 07-01-17, 09:29 AM
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Jeff Teague has committed to the T'Wolves. They're probably one shooter away (Redick?) from having a very dangerous starting 5.

Starting to look like teams and star players in the East have elected to punt on ever trying to compete against the current rendition of the Cavs. Maybe Boston, if they actually do something with all of their assets in the next year or two.
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Old 07-01-17, 09:50 AM
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Was really hoping CP3 would end up in San Antonio. Could have seen that team giving GS trouble. Oh well
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Old 07-01-17, 09:52 AM
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Clippers meh now with Lakers looking up and Blake sucking up the cash.

.500 team next year ?
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Old 07-01-17, 09:54 AM
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Maybe it's time for the Cavs to have a surprise...BAM!
The only surprise that will make any difference is if LBJ punts salary for the common good.

People are still talking Carmelo buyout/budget signing on the radio, and I can't see how that does anything for the 2-way 1-4 switch player they need. So frigging stupid.
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Old 07-01-17, 09:55 AM
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You must be disappointed.
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Old 07-01-17, 12:13 PM
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Conferences are completely out of balance. Crazy that 3 of these players will not be All-Stars:

Curry
Durant
Klay
Dray
Kawhi
Harden
CP3
Westbrook
George
Gasol
Butler
Towns
Davis
Cousins
Lillard
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Old 07-01-17, 12:19 PM
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I was just thinking how loaded the west has become. It's silly they are all getting in line to try to get past GS
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Old 07-01-17, 01:33 PM
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You must be disappointed.
For sure. That would have made for some quality regular season late-night hoops to watch, and a far more exciting WC play-offs.
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Old 07-01-17, 01:38 PM
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I was just thinking how loaded the west has become. It's silly they are all getting in line to try to get past GS
They have to change the draft format. The league is only going to get more unbalanced.
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Curry gets paid: $201 million over 5 years

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The best bargain in the NBA the past four seasons has agreed to the richest contract in league history.

Warriors guard Stephen Curry on Friday night did what has long been expected, agreeing to a five-year “super max” contract extension worth a reported $201 million.

Curry’s previous contract — signed as he was coming off multiple ankle injuries and before he won back-to-back MVP awards and the Warriors won two NBA titles — was for $44 million for four years.
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