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Old 08-20-18, 07:34 PM
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Vamps top teams SWO/MVA week 0

Teams eligible: All teams in SWO and Miami Valley including all teams in the leagues OHC, CBC, WBL, and NWCC

This is preseason and it can change if someone gives me some great input on how I butchered it.... so lets get it started...

Top 8 in Division 6/7

01 Marion Local
02 Coldwater
03 Minster
04 Ft. Recovery
05 St. Henry
06 Versailles
07 Mechanicsburg
08 Lehman Catholic

how about Delphos St.John? West Liberty Salem?

Top 8 in Division 4/5

01 Wyoming
02 Clinton Massie
03 Valley View
04 Madison
05 St. Marys
06 Indian Hill
07 Ottawa-Glandorf
08 CHCA

Top 10 in Division 2/3

01 LaSalle
02 Trotwood
03 Winton Woods
04 Alter
05 Anderson
06 Troy
07 Kings
08 Edgewood
09 Bellefontaine
10 Dayton CJ

some more of interest: Celina, Wapak, Harrison, New Richmond, Northwest, Mt.Healthy

ALL DIVISIONS BAKER DOZEN

01 St. Xavier
02 Colerain
03 LaSalle
04 Trotwood
05 Elder
06 Evil Empire
07 Northmont
08 Fairfield
09 Winton Woods
10 Springfield
11 Wayne
12 Sycamore
13 Centerville

OK, so gimme some thoughts....
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Old 08-20-18, 07:42 PM
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Who’s Evil Empire?
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Old 08-20-18, 08:36 PM
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Who’s Evil Empire?
Moeller. Vamps has a raging stiffy for them for some reason.
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Old 08-20-18, 08:38 PM
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Fairmont is going to be a team to be reckoned with.
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Old 08-20-18, 08:54 PM
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Fairmont is going to be a team to be reckoned with.
no doubt but I want to wait and see what happens between them and Alter.
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Old 08-20-18, 09:02 PM
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ALL DIVISIONS

01 Colerain
02 St X
03 Wayne
04 Trotwood
05 Elder
06 Lasalle
07 Winton Woods
08 Moeller
09 Centerville
10 Northmont
11 Fairmont
12 Alter
13 Marion Local
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Old 08-20-18, 09:40 PM
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Moeller. Vamps has a raging stiffy for them for some reason.
He doesn't like cheaters except for Wayne.
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Old 08-21-18, 12:41 AM
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Who’s Evil Empire?
Russia (Ohio)?
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Old 08-21-18, 04:07 AM
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Massie should be above Wyoming until the Cowboys run with them. Wasn’t even close last year and I don’t think it would(will) be this year.
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Old 08-21-18, 06:14 AM
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ALL DIVISIONS

01 Colerain
02 St X
03 Wayne
04 Trotwood
05 Elder
06 Lasalle
07 Winton Woods
08 Moeller
09 Centerville
10 Northmont
11 Fairmont
12 Alter
13 Marion Local
UH,"Mactosis" has struck in Troy. OMG somebody send the antidote up there. D6team as #12 noway
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Old 08-21-18, 06:21 AM
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UH,"Mactosis" has struck in Troy. OMG somebody send the antidote up there. D6team as #12 noway
He has them ranked 13th.

Maybe you should have gone to a MAC school.... The quality of education is better than the football.
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Old 08-21-18, 06:40 AM
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Teams eligible: All teams in SWO and Miami Valley including all teams in the leagues OHC, CBC, WBL, and NWCC

This is preseason and it can change if someone gives me some great input on how I butchered it.... so lets get it started...

Top 8 in Division 6/7

01 Marion Local
02 Coldwater
03 Minster
04 Ft. Recovery
05 St. Henry
06 Versailles
07 Mechanicsburg
08 Lehman Catholic

how about Delphos St.John? West Liberty Salem?

Top 8 in Division 4/5

01 Wyoming
02 Clinton Massie
03 Valley View
04 Madison
05 St. Marys
06 Indian Hill
07 Ottawa-Glandorf
08 CHCA

Top 10 in Division 2/3

01 LaSalle
02 Trotwood
03 Winton Woods
04 Alter
05 Anderson
06 Troy
07 Kings
08 Edgewood
09 Bellefontaine
10 Dayton CJ

some more of interest: Celina, Wapak, Harrison, New Richmond, Northwest, Mt.Healthy

ALL DIVISIONS BAKER DOZEN

01 St. Xavier
02 Colerain
03 LaSalle
04 Trotwood
05 Elder
06 Evil Empire
07 Northmont
08 Fairfield
09 Winton Woods
10 Springfield
11 Wayne
12 Sycamore
13 Centerville

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Centerville shouldn't even sniff this list...
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Old 08-21-18, 06:40 AM
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He has them ranked 13th.

Maybe you should have gone to a MAC school.... The quality of education is better than the football.
Uh, would have never made it at a MAC school, I hate "Kool-Aid."
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Old 08-21-18, 08:32 AM
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Vamp, Centerville is going to be pretty bad. I see 5-6 losses for them this year. Also, Moeller is probably a top 13 team, but they might only win 2-3 games this year. I'm not even confident my own Sycamore Aves are going to be that good this year. We only return 6 starters.

You might want to consider Princeton for the top 13. They will be extremely talented. Fairfield will also likely be better than Moeller and La Salle (they lost a lot, not sure why you have them so high) and possibly even Elder. Trotwood might be your #3 team behind the usual suspects in Colerain and X.
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Old 08-21-18, 09:23 AM
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I'm interested to see what happens with Trotwood Madison and Winton Woods in week 1. Both are ranked high on this list, as they should be. This might be one of the better games in SW Ohio in Week 1.

Being familiar with Valley View in DIV. They lost a lot to graduation, might be ranked a little high. The Spartans start the season traveling to Wilmington and then Fort Recovery, before heading home to play Madison. You'll know what you have with them early on. I'm concerned the youth, quality opponents, and road games will be a tall task.
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Old 08-21-18, 02:32 PM
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Anderson has a lot to prove. The QB was a one man wrecking crew combined with a good oline (a few graduated) and 3 or 4 top receivers gone.
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Old 08-21-18, 03:53 PM
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St.Marys should be in the top 3 for D4-5. FWIW heard they crushed Bellefontaine in their last scrimmage.
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Old 08-21-18, 04:47 PM
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I'm interested to see what happens with Trotwood Madison and Winton Woods in week 1. Both are ranked high on this list, as they should be. This might be one of the better games in SW Ohio in Week 1.

Being familiar with Valley View in DIV. They lost a lot to graduation, might be ranked a little high. The Spartans start the season traveling to Wilmington and then Fort Recovery, before heading home to play Madison. You'll know what you have with them early on. I'm concerned the youth, quality opponents, and road games will be a tall task.
Uh I do believe Wilmingtons best player transferred out. I think VV will roll.
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Old 08-21-18, 05:56 PM
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Teams eligible: All teams in SWO and Miami Valley including all teams in the leagues OHC, CBC, WBL, and NWCC

This is preseason and it can change if someone gives me some great input on how I butchered it.... so lets get it started...

Top 8 in Division 6/7

01 Marion Local
02 Coldwater
03 Minster
04 Ft. Recovery
05 St. Henry
06 Versailles
07 Mechanicsburg
08 Lehman Catholic

how about Delphos St.John? West Liberty Salem?

Top 8 in Division 4/5

01 Wyoming
02 Clinton Massie
03 Valley View
04 Madison
05 St. Marys
06 Indian Hill
07 Ottawa-Glandorf
08 CHCA

Top 10 in Division 2/3

01 LaSalle
02 Trotwood
03 Winton Woods
04 Alter
05 Anderson
06 Troy
07 Kings
08 Edgewood
09 Bellefontaine
10 Dayton CJ

some more of interest: Celina, Wapak, Harrison, New Richmond, Northwest, Mt.Healthy

ALL DIVISIONS BAKER DOZEN

01 St. Xavier
02 Colerain
03 LaSalle
04 Trotwood
05 Elder
06 Evil Empire
07 Northmont
08 Fairfield
09 Winton Woods
10 Springfield
11 Wayne
12 Sycamore
13 Centerville

OK, so gimme some thoughts....
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Uh, Vampy I really hate to say this, but you are spot on.Uh maybe Clinton Massie as #1 they are really good.
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Old 08-21-18, 06:05 PM
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UH,"Mactosis" has struck in Troy. OMG somebody send the antidote up there. D6team as #12 noway
Alter is rated as the number 2 team in d3 and is always a top program . If you have an issue with me putting them in then you should Alter as well. CJ beat Alter by 21 last year in the playoffs and won 2 playoff games. Marion Local killed CJ last year 35-7. Sooner than later you will buy in hoser. I have faith.
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Old 08-21-18, 06:18 PM
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Alter is rated as the number 2 team in d3 and is always a top program . If you have an issue with me putting them in then you should Alter as well. CJ beat Alter by 21 last year in the playoffs and won 2 playoff games. Marion Local killed CJ last year 35-7. Sooner than later you will buy in hoser. I have faith.
Uh, Marion Local is the best D6 program in the state hands down.Are they one of the top 25 teams in the state, regardless of division? Uh noway.
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Old 08-21-18, 06:29 PM
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Uh, Marion Local is the best D6 program in the state hands down.Are they one of the top 25 teams in the state, regardless of division? Uh noway.
Again, maybe you should have gone to a MAC school.
The education is better than the football.

This thread is not about tops in the State but rather in SWO/MV.

ML is certainly among the best.
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Old 08-21-18, 06:39 PM
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Again, maybe you should have gone to a MAC school.
The education is better than the football.

This thread is not about tops in the State but rather in SWO/MV.

ML is certainly among the best.
Uh, Marion Local is absolutely the best D6 program in the state. Uh could they compete against the top 25 in the state regardless of Division? Uh slim and none and slim just left the state. I don't understand why you MAC guys cant just say yeah we are the top D6 team in the state and let it go at that. Marion Local would have no chance in the GCL or 8 or 9 other big school leagues in the state. "Mactosis" is a terrible disease. Uh I would also question your education statement .Small schools don't have the staff and the economic resources of the large schools in the state.
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Old 08-21-18, 06:48 PM
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Uh, Marion Local is absolutely the best D6 program in the state. Uh could they compete against the top 25 in the state regardless of Division? Uh slim and none and slim just left the state. I don't understand why you MAC guys cant just say yeah we are the top D6 team in the state and let it go at that. Marion Local would have no chance in the GCL or 8 or 9 other big school leagues in the state. "Mactosis" is a terrible disease. Uh I would also question your education statement .Small schools don't have the staff and the economic resources of the large schools in the state.
Once again, the ranking was for SWO/MV not the entire state.

Why can't you discern the difference?
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Old 08-21-18, 06:58 PM
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Once again, the ranking was for SWO/MV not the entire state.

Why can't you discern the difference?
Uh, no D6 team has ever been a top 20 team in the SWO/MV ever. Sheer numbers and speed and size differences are way toward the bigger schools. Uh I repeat again, <Marion Local is the bestD6 team in the state. Could they compete against the top 25 teams in the state?Uh, aint happening.
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Hoser, just curious how badly do you think Clinton Massie, for example, would have beaten Marion Local last season? What would the score have been? Give your best estimate.
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Old 08-21-18, 07:12 PM
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Hoser, just curious how badly do you think Clinton Massie, for example, would have beaten Marion Local last season? What would the score have been? Give your best estimate.
Uh that is a very good question. Only saw Marion on TV and Massie in a scrimmage game. I would say that game would have been a tossup, although Marion offense looked really good in the state finals. Both squads are among the best in small school football in the state.
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Old 08-21-18, 07:43 PM
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Marion Local and Coldwater in some years has definitely been a top 15 team in SWO regardless of division. Not most years but in some YES. That is the plain truth and I pretty much proved that a few years ago on here by posting factual data that was completely ignored by 1 poster which we all know who that is....

As for this season at this point I would say that ML is not a top 15 team in all divisions but that could change as the season goes on.
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Marion Local and Coldwater in some years has definitely been a top 15 team in SWO regardless of division. Not most years but in some YES. That is the plain truth and I pretty much proved that a few years ago on here by posting factual data that was completely ignored by 1 poster which we all know who that is....

As for this season at this point I would say that ML is not a top 15 team in all divisions but that could change as the season goes on.
Uh vampy I respect most of what you post. No way a D6 team could compete with the top 25 in the state. I saw Coldwater years ago against a Badin team who was not that good.Coldwater won in overtime.If MAC schools played in SW Ohio they would be just another small school league. Uh figures lie and liars figure.
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Uh vampy I respect most of what you post. No way a D6 team could compete with the top 25 in the state. I saw Coldwater years ago against a Badin team who was not that good.Coldwater won in overtime.If MAC schools played in SW Ohio they would be just another small school league. Uh figures lie and liars figure.
Since 2000 Coldwater I believe has played Badin 3 times in the play-offs. In those 3 games CW has out scored Badin 77 to 10. What is your point.
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