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Old 04-16-18, 10:11 AM
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Delivers on promises huh? Which ones? Repeal and replace? Mexico will pay for wall? Simplified tax code, wealthy like him will not pay less? Yuuge infrastructure bill? Deficit reduction? Will release his taxes once audit complete - LOL. (Ok we knew the last one was a lie).

Just me but my personal favorite is "I know all the best people." What a clown show.
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Old 04-16-18, 10:43 AM
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Delivers on promises huh? Which ones? Repeal and replace? Mexico will pay for wall? Simplified tax code, wealthy like him will not pay less? Yuuge infrastructure bill? Deficit reduction? Will release his taxes once audit complete - LOL. (Ok we knew the last one was a lie).

Just me but my personal favorite is "I know all the best people." What a clown show.
My favorite - Drain the swamp
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Old 04-16-18, 11:00 AM
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Here are the Questions that EX FBI Chief Comey and Mueller should be asked Mr. Comey
Isnít it true that you were an assistant U.S. attorney for a prosecutor between 1996 and 2003?
In your official capacity at the Department of Justice, did you investigate and did you clear Bill Clinton of any wrongdoing for extending a presidential pardon to Marc Rich, a fugitive from justice, a fugitive of the United States?
Isnít it true that between 2003 and 2005, you held a position with the office of the Attorney General?
Isnít it true that in 2005, you resigned from the Department of Justice and accepted a job as the senior vice-president with the office of general counsel at Lockheed Martin, a company that is a major, major military contractor?
Isnít it true that in 2010, when you were employed with Lockheed Martin, Lockheed won 17 approvals for private contracts with the Department of State while Hillary Clinton was the Secretary of State?
Isnít it true that in 2010, while you were employed with Lockheed Martin, Lockheed became a major contributor to the Clinton Foundation and non-profit organizations?
Isnít it true that in late 2010, after Lockheed was awarded those contracts by the Hillary Clinton State Department, you stepped down from Lockheed and received a $6 million payout for your services?
Isnít it true that in 2013, the largest bank of England, HSBC, was being investigated by federal authorities for laundering billions of dollars for the Mexican drug cartels, channeling money to the Middle East, specifically Iran, which is in violation of law?
Isnít it true that Robert Mueller, former director of the FBI and now the special counsel to investigate the alleged ďcollusionĒ between the Trump campaign and RussiaÖ isnít it true that Mr. Mueller was the chief counsel at HSBCÖ the same bank that was laundering money for the cartels?
Isnít it true that HSBC was a significant Clinton Foundation contributor? That Bill Clinton was being paid about $200,000 for his speeches at HSBC eventsÖ and this is while Mrs. Clinton was the Secretary of State? No conflict of interest there?
Isnít it true that HSBC was basically let off the hook with a $1.2 billion fine Ė which was paid by shareholders Ė and none of its officers, managers, directors were charged criminally or let go? Isnít it true that while all hell was breaking loose at HSBC, YOU, Mr. Comey, were appointed as a director and member of the board at HSBC to assist with damage control?
Isnít it true, Mr. Comey, that your salary went from $206,000 in 2002 when you were a government employee, to $33.5 million in 2012Ö. And that you earned these moneys while working for entities that were major contributors to the Clintons?
Isnít it true that you worked for Bridgewater Associates between 2010 and 2013, and that they are also a major contributor to the Clintons?
Isnít it true that you worked for Columbia University in 2013 as a senior research scholar at the school of law, and that Columbia University is also a major contributor to the Clintons?
Isnít it true that you gave this memo that you wrote on Bureau time on a classified computer in a Bureau carÖ and you gave this memo to Daniel Richman, your friend, a liberal professor (at Columbia), and he gave this memo to the New York Times?
Mr. Comey, you were appointed FBI Director by former President Obama in 2013, as Secretary Clinton was leaving the State Department. Isnít it true that you were appointed by Obama as FBI Director because you had proven yourself to be of service to the Clintons and their associates and entities that contribute millions of dollars to the Clintonsí non-profit organizations?
Isnít it true that you, as Director of the FBI in 2013 did absolutely nothing in regards to the missing $2 billion from the State Department finances, and this happened while Mrs. Clinton was Secretary of State?
Isnít it true, that while you were Director of the FBI, for over two years, nothing happened as a result of the FBI ďinvestigationsĒ into the Clinton non-profit organizations?
If it had not been for the emails that were leaked involving Mrs. Clinton and her associates, all this would be unknown to everyone. But these emails were leakedÖ and fortunately, the truth is coming out. Mr. Mueller isn't it true that you took US Uranium to RUSSIA FOR HILLARY CLINTON? Isn't it true you assisted Clinton in the sale of 20% of US uranium? Mr. Mueller did you receive any monies or position appointments due to helping secretary Clinton?

Robert Mueller is an expert at making nothing look like something. He did it in Iraq, he did it when he sent a planeload of people to frame WikiLeaks and he is doing it to frame President Trump and his administration. I do not trust Rosenstein either he appointed Mueller knowing full well he is a Clinton Troll.
Robert Mueller has yet again been proven to be a biased and unfair counsel in terms of the investigation involving collusion in the 2016 election. Not only is the entire investigation based on false accusations, and has yet to provide even the slightest bit of proof, Robert Mueller is plowing ahead into finding anything that can remove Trump from office. Despite his already known and crooked past, it has recently been revealed that the man in charge of investigating collusion with Russians colluded with Russians himself! Robert Mueller did work for a company called IronBridge who worked as consultants to Saudi and Russian state nuclear agencies and failed to report the work.
Robert Mueller is the definition of a swamp monster. He has been involved with politics and high levels of the judicial systems for years. Mueller has been known to be an open Democrat as well as longtime friend of Clinton and Comey. His appointment to the position of special counsel was supposed to a gesture of good faith for the new president to express concerns surrounding the false and baseless accusations about his apparent collusion with Russians. However, the deep state snake Mueller has been revealed to be a biased opponent of Trumpís as his investigation continues to prove as an insult to the American people.
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Old 04-16-18, 11:08 AM
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Robert Mueller is a Republican
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Old 04-16-18, 11:15 AM
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Robert Mueller is a Republican
No! Mueller is a witch hunter and that has nothing to do with what party you are registered to.
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Old 04-16-18, 11:19 AM
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Was hired and worked for Presidents Ford , Reagan Bush 1 and 2 and Bill Clinton. Has done work for men of both party's but is a life long Republican and has worked more with Republicans .

A marine who trained as a Army ranger who has a purple heart and Bronze star to his credits . This " open Democrat "and "swamp monster" characterization is specious .


I recall when the investigation started newt Gingrich of all people was happy that such a man got the lead , had praise for the guy.

Now being a Republican guy who is a former military man doesn't mean that he likes the fact that Trump is President , many Conservatives cringe a bit themselves , but to say that he is a left leaning progressive zealot who is incredibly biased is more than a stretch
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Old 04-16-18, 11:23 AM
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19AL63 , Thank you for always raising the bar in any discussion. Your contributions are vast . In fact I hadn't known that a 'Witch Hunter " could be used as an actual moniker " so is it , "The Witch Hunter " is the person who participates in 'Witch Hunts" or can you be a civilian and non professional 'Witch Hunter and participate as well?
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Old 04-16-18, 11:33 AM
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I have a feeling that if Mueller finds nothing, which I suspect, then everything will turn around again. Democrats will demonize him and Republicans will praise him.
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Old 04-16-18, 11:35 AM
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Robert Mueller is a Republican
Not necessarily. He has been registered a Republican in the past but if you do some research the consensus is you really don't know what party he is in but tends to lean more with the Democrats. As mentioned above he's close with Comey which makes his leadership of this "investigation" suspect with conflict of interest. It's funny, though, you focus on what party is Mueller in and ignore all of the other issues with Comey and Mueller's conflict of interest in handling this bogus investigation.
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Old 04-16-18, 11:45 AM
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19AL63 , Thank you for always raising the bar in any discussion. Your contributions are vast . In fact I hadn't known that a 'Witch Hunter " could be used as an actual moniker " so is it , "The Witch Hunter " is the person who participates in 'Witch Hunts" or can you be a civilian and non professional 'Witch Hunter and participate as well?
No more than people stating he is a registered republican when we all know that in the job he has been given he must stay neutral and impartial just like his buddy Comey has show to be.
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Old 04-16-18, 11:51 AM
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Donald J Trump has been a big contributor to the Clintons over the years , Linking the man to the company he works for campaign contributions as evidence he has a bias is ridiculous .

Like I said DJ Trump was a life long Democrat who only contributed to that party for years , he knew he couldn't possibly get the nomination to that party so he became a Republican and as he said "because those people who watch Fox will believe anything" .


He leans more right now than anyone could have imagined because he wants to stick it to the 55-60 percent of people who hate him mainly Dems. He didn't all of a sudden become William F Buckley. He has no real strong views , tax cuts are done because it benefits corporations and rich guys like him most and he can get the huge donations because of it .

These Attacks and hate tweets on the investigators mostly who are republicans is to prepare for the worst and have the vapid and obtuse die hard 35 percent to believe Trump over everyone else no matter who they are, or what their back-round is .

Innocent people with Integrity don't have to attack the investigators if they are confident and have nothing to hide or worry about . They keep their mouths shut knowing that there isn't possibly any real wrong doing that took place. No lies or deceit , no shady business practices NOTHING.

The people who aren't confident in their innocence or think that may be they will get in trouble become defensive. They attack the people who are investigating them, say everyone has it out for them like a teenager blaming the teacher 'Not liking him . as an excuse for poor grades. They 'Bellow everyone is out to get me , it's all their fault , they are bad 'I'm good " 'IT ISN'T FAIR " and whine incessantly about the perceived unfair treatment , say WHAT ABOUT THEM all the time . This is what a shady character looks like
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Old 04-16-18, 11:58 AM
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James Comey is a Republican . He worked under George W Bush in the DOJ. Attacking the investigators and projecting, THAT THEY ARE THE REAL CRIMINALS is the posture of a shady may be guilty man or group of men .

Trump probably is OK criminally speaking , but reputation wise? I think while some of his men he hired will do time and he won't { think Chris Christie Bridge gate } but he will stink just like the Portly dude from Jersey does now after all is said and done
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Old 04-16-18, 12:01 PM
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Donald J Trump has been a big contributor to the Clintons over the years , Linking the man to the company he works for campaign contributions as evidence he has a bias is ridiculous .

Like I said DJ Trump was a life long Democrat who only contributed to that party for years , he knew he couldn't possibly get the nomination to that party so he became a Republican and as he said "because those people who watch Fox will believe anything" .


He leans more right now than anyone could have imagined because he wants to stick it to the 55-60 percent of people who hate him mainly Dems. He didn't all of a sudden become William F Buckley. He has no real strong views , tax cuts are done because it benefits corporations and rich guys like him most and he can get the huge donations because of it .

These Attacks and hate tweets on the investigators mostly who are republicans is to prepare for the worst and have the vapid and obtuse die hard 35 percent to believe Trump over everyone else no matter who they are, or what their back-round is .

Innocent people with Integrity don't have to attack the investigators if they are confident and have nothing to hide or worry about . They keep their mouths shut knowing that there isn't possibly any real wrong doing that took place. No lies or deceit , no shady business practices NOTHING.

The people who aren't confident in their innocence or think that may be they will get in trouble become defensive. They attack the people who are investigating them, say everyone has it out for them like a teenager blaming the teacher 'Not liking him . as an excuse for poor grades. They 'Bellow everyone is out to get me , it's all their fault , they are bad 'I'm good " 'IT ISN'T FAIR " and whine incessantly about the perceived unfair treatment , say WHAT ABOUT THEM all the time . This is what a shady character looks like
I raise the bar again and you changed the subject and head off in another direction.
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Old 04-16-18, 12:02 PM
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People might finally find out that Trump is an unscrupulous azzhole.

Good one, harry.
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Old 04-16-18, 12:07 PM
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Didn't watch the interview last night but based on the outtakes I heard this morning Comey sounds like a former, disgruntled employee that is mad that he got fired. Gee....real earth moving stuff there. That has never happened before.

Is that the basics of this whole thing?
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Old 04-16-18, 12:27 PM
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I don’t think he seemed angry or disgruntled really , nothing new really in terms of information we knew most of his thoughts already including his testimony last year .


My take wasn’t that Trump will be found out as a Prykkk , everyone knows he’s kind of a crap stain as a person and that he has serious personality flaws. More that while not criminally prosecutable if you will , his actions will be found to be illuminating to some even hardcore supporters as unethical at best and right near the line of criminality at worst?

Yes many ardent supporters acknowledge these “ flaws” and support him anyway justifying it sometimes in very creative ways .
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Old 04-16-18, 12:48 PM
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Donald J Trump has been a big contributor to the Clintons over the years ,
THIS was an excellent post! And one most would agree whether admittedly or not.

An innocent person would also allow let alone welcome an interview, if not a hearing, if not a public hearing. Everyone knows why that can't happen, lol.
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Old 04-16-18, 12:49 PM
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How is Comey benefitting from Muellers investigation exactly ? A conflict of interest means someone is benefitting in some way . So as a result of this “ conflict” what is the Benefit ?

Who Benefits and how? What are Comey and Mueller getting out of Trump possibly getting into some hot water ? Revenge ? Is that tangible ? What does Mueller get that is so great that it is causing him to be what you perceive as sone swampy dishonesty unethical person who you say should be investigated himself?
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Old 04-16-18, 12:50 PM
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An innocent man would do what every President in the last half century has done. Release multiple years of their Tax Returns
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Old 04-16-18, 01:04 PM
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and show us his college records and a real birth certificate, not a fake one.
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An innocent man would do what every President in the last half century has done. Release multiple years of their Tax Returns
Don't care.
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Old 04-16-18, 01:54 PM
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THIS was an excellent post! And one most would agree whether admittedly or not.

An innocent person would also allow let alone welcome an interview, if not a hearing, if not a public hearing. Everyone knows why that can't happen, lol.
What garbage.

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An innocent man would do what every President in the last half century has done. Release multiple years of their Tax Returns
Why make private information public for no reason or requirement?
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What garbage.

Yeah.... Too much SVU probably.
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Old 04-16-18, 02:36 PM
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The real joke is how corrupt the Clintons and Obama are but the Progressive Left wants to ignore it.
The joke is you conservatives on this forum who won't admit that most of D.C. is corrupt BUT you guys only point one way because you hate the left so much. The current administration is definitely a joke but you have your blinders on!
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Oh Donnie boy is a smart business man. He talks bad about Amazon and turns around and has someone buy stock into amazon when the price of stock is down. Then takes it back or will take it back. Not paying taxes and then pointing the finger at others. Like, calling Hillary a crook but he has done things much worse. What a joke Donnie boy is.
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So you are saying that al the previous Presidents the last 50 years were foolish? And Donnie is wicked smahhht ?


I'll will not go with that answer and answer rather obviously . There are things on his tax returns that the poor rural red state and swing state voters and downtrodden and working class rural folks who put him in office to shake things up might not be down with who he is financially in terms of what he has paid and not paid .

I am sure you bought that 'Leaked" return that was obviously handpicked by trump who orchestrated the release to be the norm of his tax returns. I only add that because I can predict that response .

The guy won't look good to the Average folks he claims to care about and actually put him in office . If it made him look charitable and there was nothing to be a bit sheepish about Trump would be bragging about his GREATEST TAX RETURNS IN HISTORY and release them lol no anger just channeling him shouting such nonsense
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I think the people that put him in office weren't expecting to see his tax returns.
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i am not coming from that angle , i realize most people who like that he is prez don't care if Donny kills a bunch of people and they certainly don't care if he shows his tax returns, my point sees to have escaped you. I wasn't claiming that his flock wanted to see them but isn't it a bit telling that he's the ONLY one in half a century not to?


Doesn't make you even stop for a second and ask ? Why ? OK you don't care i get it , but what really makes it shady is his bullcrap excuse that he was under audit and that was the reason . IRS brass were quoted he was free to release him no restriction if he wanted to keep up a half century tradition of US prez candidates and Presidents in a show of transparency show the people that will vote for them that they are honest US tax payers themselves
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General question to all you alt lefts and alt rights. Do you all believe Trump, for right or wrong is stirring the pot in DC?
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