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Old 08-16-18, 12:29 PM
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Thumbs down 3rd scrimmage for your team? Youíll be payin at the gate!

If your team is having itís third scrimmage, OHSAA says itís s JAMBOREE and you have to charge at the gate. $4 for adults and $2 for students. And the state gets all the cash! Any way to make a buck.
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Old 08-16-18, 12:44 PM
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It helps pay for the catastrophic injury insurance that the OHSAA carriers on every player in the state.

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Old 08-16-18, 01:03 PM
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It is what it is , if it is going to that fund , I'll gladly pay the 4 bucks tonight .
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Old 08-16-18, 01:35 PM
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All with a direct tie to the team will gladly pay such a pittance. Hopefully will discourage the windowless van crowd.
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Old 08-16-18, 01:39 PM
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If your team is having it’s third scrimmage, OHSAA says it’s s JAMBOREE and you have to charge at the gate. $4 for adults and $2 for students. And the state gets all the cash! Any way to make a buck.
Thought it was a straight $250 fee for each school to the OHSAA, gate receipts belong to the school; was it changed?
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Old 08-16-18, 01:40 PM
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All with a direct tie to the team will gladly pay such a pittance. Hopefully will discourage the windowless van crowd.
That's a bit dark qcb
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Old 08-16-18, 01:41 PM
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If your team is having it’s third scrimmage, OHSAA says it’s s JAMBOREE and you have to charge at the gate. $4 for adults and $2 for students. And the state gets all the cash! Any way to make a buck.
Good grief! Sounds like you must need a crowbar to open your wallet.

This has been in effect ever since the OHSAA agreed to allow teams a 3rd scrimmage. If a team participates in a 3rd scrimmage, they must pay $250.00 to the OHSAA. The money goes to OHSAA the catastrophic insurance fund. Charging at the gate could be the school's way of recouping that money. I've worked a couple of my school's 3rd scrimmages in the past as a ticket taker. The money taken in covered the $250.00 fee for both schools, so $500 in all. Any gate revenue above that amount was split between the 2 schools.

http://www.ohsaa.org/Portals/0/Sport...xplanation.pdf

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Old 08-16-18, 01:43 PM
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Thought it was a straight $250 fee for each school to the OHSAA, gate receipts belong to the school; was it changed?
Yes. Some schools will charge admission to recoup that $250 fee and cover the visiting school's fee as well. Any additional money will go wherever the host school sees fit. If there's anything left, my school will split the additional proceeds with the visiting school.
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Old 08-16-18, 01:45 PM
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From the OHSAA website:

Where does the participation fee go? Each school that participates in a Jamboree is required to pay $250 to the OHSAA which goes directly into the Catastrophic Insurance Fund. The OHSAA insures every junior and senior high athlete for a catastrophic injury. A catastrophic injury is one in which medical bills exceed $25,000. In past years injuries have occurred in football, baseball, swimming and wrestling which ultimately involved quad and paraplegia. The OHSAA provided insurance has assisted the injured players and families with medical expenses, remodeling homes, education and other rehabilitation measures.

There is an annual insurance premium to the OHSAA that exceeds $600,000. OHSAA member schools pay no membership fee and no insurance fee. How much has been raised? Jamborees began in 2009. Jamborees held previously have generated more than $70,000 each year toward the Catastrophic Insurance Fund.

The host school may charge admission.
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Old 08-16-18, 01:47 PM
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Yes. Some schools will charge admission to recoup that $250 fee and cover the visiting school's fee as well. Any additional money will go wherever the host school sees fit.
If I remember correctly; you don't have to charge admission, you just have permission to as you can't charge admission to a scrimmage, the amount is determined by the schools. The schools could pay the fee and not charge if they wanted to.
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Old 08-16-18, 01:50 PM
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I've never had to pay for a scrimmage before , but if I am asked I will pay and hope the money is used well.
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Old 08-16-18, 01:52 PM
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Pardon me for being a bit late to the party, but what on earth is a jamboree? I thought that was something boy scouts did.
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Old 08-16-18, 01:55 PM
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If I remember correctly; you don't have to charge admission, you just have permission to as you can't charge admission to a scrimmage, the amount is determined by the schools. The schools could pay the fee and not charge if they wanted to.
That is true. Allowing schools the option to charge admission was obviously a compromise for requiring the $250 fee.

I can see where schools that have large enough regular season gates might opt to not charge admission for these, but I'm sure many schools that are operating on tighter athletic budgets will opt to charge.

Incidentally, it seems like less schools are bothering with a 3rd scrimmage as it is, possibly due to declining participation numbers. It's been 3 or 4 years since my school has participated in a 3rd scrimmage.

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Old 08-16-18, 02:00 PM
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Pardon me for being a bit late to the party, but what on earth is a jamboree? I thought that was something boy scouts did.
Jamboree is just the name the OHSAA gives to the 3rd scrimmage. The OHSAA's hope is that schools will piggyback on the scrimmage to include other activities to make it a bigger event that gets people excited about football and could possibly make it into a fundraising opportunity for the schools. IIRC, some schools have used the jamboree in the past to host a 3-way scrimmage where they'd play the other 2 teams for 2 quarters apiece. The word makes me think not only of the Boy Scouts but also of the old Bear Country Jamboree I saw many years ago at DisneyWorld.

From the link I posted earlier:

What is a Jamboree? A Jamboree is a third preseason football contest. It is intended to be conducted during the scrimmage timeline and serve as a “dress rehearsal” for the upcoming regular season game(s). In an ideal world, the game would be played in accordance with NFHS playing rules, i.e. four quarters, complete kicking game, regular clock rules and should involve all aspects of the football Friday Night experience. However, the competing schools have some flexibility to conduct the Jamboree in the most suitable format for their kids and communities. The host school may charge admission. Many schools hosting a Jamboree have included booster sponsored chicken barbeques or pasta dinners. Many athletic departments involve their marching band and have band booster activities. It is anticipated that the Jamboree be more than just an athletic event.
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Old 08-16-18, 02:04 PM
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That term back in the day I played was used in other sports [Hockey basketball } Jamboree is a term used when a handful or a few teams get together in one location and play .

We didn't call it that in football , we just scrimmaged teams, we went away to camp and at many camps there are a couple other teams there or nearby and you scrimmaged them sometimes. then we cam home and had two other scrimmages .

In hockey you had instances in the pre-season where you had a handful of teams and you played may be three different teams for a short period . basketball had these pre-season get togethers as well . It was called a jamboree .
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Old 08-16-18, 02:25 PM
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So if it is only your third scrimmage and and you call it a Jamboree do you pay the $250 fee. oh and we are getting charged at the gate tomorrow night. It is only Marysville's 2nd scrimmage and I do not think Darby has already had 2 scrimmages
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Old 08-16-18, 04:31 PM
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Do any schools participate in multi-team jamborees in Ohio? I know it is common in youth football in other states we have lived (Illinois/Texas especially) 6-8 teams show up and use multiple fields. You play essentially a quarter (running clock) against 2-4 teams. Not quite a full game since running clock is used, but definitely get good work.

I don't know the OHSAA rule on multi-team scrimmages.
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Old 08-16-18, 06:01 PM
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So if it is only your third scrimmage and and you call it a Jamboree do you pay the $250 fee. oh and we are getting charged at the gate tomorrow night. It is only Marysville's 2nd scrimmage and I do not think Darby has already had 2 scrimmages

The limit is 2 scrimmages, the jamboree is voluntary and not considered a scrimmage by the OHSAA, it is up to the schools to play or not play a jamboree. You can play your second scrimmage this week. You can play 1 scrimmage, then a jamboree and then a scrimmage, the jamboree can be played 2nd or 3rd week
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Do any schools participate in multi-team jamborees in Ohio? I know it is common in youth football in other states we have lived (Illinois/Texas especially) 6-8 teams show up and use multiple fields. You play essentially a quarter (running clock) against 2-4 teams. Not quite a full game since running clock is used, but definitely get good work.

I don't know the OHSAA rule on multi-team scrimmages.
1.21) Any practice or workout including two or more teams or partial teams is a scrimmage.

1.24) Grades 9-12 may participate in a maximum of two scrimmages not to exceed three hours in length.
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Old 08-17-18, 08:35 AM
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If it is only 4 dollars why is Hilliard Darby charging 7 dollars & 3 to park ?
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Old 08-17-18, 08:57 AM
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YEah, it is NOT mandatory to charge.

Nice scare tactics.

I know in the past our HS didnt charge to get it and I have been to away ones didnt charge either. Some schools are just okay with hosting it and allowing their school groups to get concession money.


but then again...we also dont fleece the public and charge for parking either when we host playoff games.
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Old 08-17-18, 09:09 AM
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If your team is having itís third scrimmage, OHSAA says itís s JAMBOREE and you have to charge at the gate. $4 for adults and $2 for students. And the state gets all the cash! Any way to make a buck.


Not even close. Schools pay the state $250. Schools do not have to charge admission.


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If it is only 4 dollars why is Hilliard Darby charging 7 dollars & 3 to park ?
two different schools?
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This is certainly old news. Coaches wanted a third scrimmage, and this is the deal struck with the OHSAA.
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If it is only 4 dollars why is Hilliard Darby charging 7 dollars & 3 to park ?
There is no set fee. The schools can charge whatever they want for a jamboree ranging from zero dollars to as many dollars as they believe people will pay. I assume Darby is charging their regular admission fee. ADs are usually the ones to make those decisions.
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Old 08-17-18, 09:26 AM
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I’m just hoping the jamborees tonight don’t get rained out.
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If it is only 4 dollars why is Hilliard Darby charging 7 dollars & 3 to park ?
the $3 to park is only reserved parking near the stadium. it is free further from the stadium
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Old 08-17-18, 02:03 PM
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With all the construction where is the free parking located ?
I'm coming from Marysville.
Thanks for the info bluepride1990 I did not mean to sound off just saw on Marysville
Athletic Directors web sight and was confused.
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Old 08-17-18, 02:18 PM
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the $3 to park is only reserved parking near the stadium. it is free further from the stadium
Did Darby just start doing last year ? I'm waiting for Davidson to do that but selfishly I do not care since I live across the street. I did not notice any reserved parking fees at any other Central Ohio stadium I went to last year.
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Old 08-17-18, 02:34 PM
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No charge at Butler they just ask that you bring two canned goods to donate to the local food pantry. Years ago it was called the soap game and the cost of admission was a bar of soap that the team would use throughout the season.
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