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Old 06-06-17, 12:34 PM
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Division III Regions (2017)

Region 9
Alliance (Alliance)
Aurora (Aurora)
Buchtel (Akron)
Buckeye (Medina)
Canfield (Canfield)
Chardon (Chardon)
Cloverleaf (Lodi)
Coventry (Akron)
East (Akron)
Garfield (Akron)
Geneva (Geneva)
Harvey (Painesville)
Howland (Warren)
Kenston (Chagrin Falls)
Louisville (Louisville)
Marlington (Alliance)
Niles Mc Kinley (Niles)
North (Akron)
Norton (Norton)
Notre Dame-Cathedral Latin (Chardon)
Ravenna (Ravenna)
Revere (Richfield)
Springfield (Akron)
St Vincent-St Mary (Akron)
Tallmadge (Tallmadge)
West Branch (Beloit)
Woodridge (Peninsula)

Region 10
Bay (Bay Village)
Bowling Green (Bowling Green)
Central Catholic (Toledo)
Cleveland Central Catholic (Cleveland)
Clyde (Clyde)
Collinwood (Cleveland)
Defiance (Defiance)
East Technical (Cleveland)
Glenville (Cleveland)
Holy Name (Parma Heights)
John F Kennedy (Cleveland)
Lexington (Lexington)
Lincoln West (Cleveland)
Madison Comprehensive (Mansfield)
Mansfield Senior (Mansfield)
Maple Heights (Maple Heights)
Maumee (Maumee)
Norwalk (Norwalk)
Padua Franciscan (Parma)
Perkins (Sandusky)
Rocky River (Rocky River)
Rogers (Toledo)
Sandusky (Sandusky)
Scott (Toledo)
Shaw (East Cleveland)
University School (Hunting Valley)
Woodward (Toledo)

Region 11
Athens (The Plains)
Beechcroft (Columbus)
Bellefontaine (Bellefontaine)
Bishop Hartley (Columbus)
Bishop Watterson (Columbus)
Buckeye Valley (Delaware)
Centennial (Columbus)
Dover (Dover)
Eastmoor Academy (Columbus)
Granville (Granville)
Hamilton Township (Columbus)
Hillsboro (Hillsboro)
Independence (Columbus)
Indian Creek (Wintersville)
Jackson (Jackson)
Marietta (Marietta)
Marion-Franklin (Columbus)
Maysville (Zanesville)
Miami Trace (Washington Ch)
New Philadelphia (N Philadelphia)
Sheridan (Thornville)
South (Columbus)
St Francis De Sales (Columbus)
Tri-Valley (Dresden)
Warren (Vincent)
West Holmes (Millersburg)
Zanesville (Zanesville)

Region 12
Archbishop Alter (Kettering)
Archbishop McNicholas (Cincinnati)
Badin (Hamilton)
Bellbrook (Bellbrook)
Butler (Vandalia)
Celina (Celina)
Chaminade Julienne (Dayton)
Dunbar (Dayton)
Elida (Elida)
Franklin (Franklin)
Goshen (Goshen)
Greenville (Greenville)
Monroe (Monroe)
Mount Healthy (Cincinnati)
New Richmond (New Richmond)
Northwest (Cincinnati)
Piqua (Piqua)
Ponitz Career Technology Center (Dayton)
Ross (Hamilton)
Shawnee (Lima)
Thurgood Marshall (Dayton)
Tippecanoe (Tipp City)
Trotwood-Madison (Trotwood)
Wapakoneta (Wapakoneta)
West Carrollton (West Carrollton)
Wilmington (Wilmington)
Woodward (Cincinnati)
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Old 06-06-17, 01:15 PM
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Top 2017 DIII Competitive Balance numbers for FB:
Toledo Central Catholic 220
SVSM 123
Bishop Hartley 97
Padua Franciscan 96
Clev. Central Catholic 85
NDCL 84
Badin 84
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Old 06-06-17, 02:30 PM
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Top 2017 DIII Competitive Balance numbers for FB:
Toledo Central Catholic 220
SVSM 123
Bishop Hartley 97
Padua Franciscan 96
Clev. Central Catholic 85
NDCL 84
Badin 84
what do you mean? the CB numbers added? Because if TCC is 220, how did they not get moved to D2 unless they lied about their numbers which most schools do *cough* trotwood *cough*
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Old 06-06-17, 02:37 PM
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Wasn't there something about a school could only be bumped up one division?
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Old 06-06-17, 02:40 PM
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what do you mean? the CB numbers added? Because if TCC is 220, how did they not get moved to D2 unless they lied about their numbers which most schools do *cough* trotwood *cough*
http://www.ohsaa.org/Sports-Tourname...ol-Assignments

The note next to TCC says they were moved up 1 due to CB, but remained the same as '16. So I wonder if enrollment went down and CB took them up the max of 1 division, leaving them where they were last year.
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Old 06-06-17, 04:38 PM
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http://www.ohsaa.org/Sports-Tourname...ol-Assignments

The note next to TCC says they were moved up 1 due to CB, but remained the same as '16. So I wonder if enrollment went down and CB took them up the max of 1 division, leaving them where they were last year.
That is what happened. The 1 bump is apparently from what they would be based just on enrollment, and not based on what they were in the previous year.
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Old 06-06-17, 05:41 PM
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Wasn't there something about a school could only be bumped up one division?
Yep, weird rule. Because if you're gonna recruit, recruit big
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Old 06-06-17, 05:52 PM
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D3 Final Four:

R9 STVM
R10 TCC / Glenville winner
R11 Desales / Hartley winner
R12 Trotwood / Alter winner
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Old 06-06-17, 05:53 PM
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Region 12 is STACKED
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Old 06-06-17, 06:10 PM
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D3 Final Four:

R9 STVM
R10 TCC / Glenville winner
R11 Desales / Hartley winner
R12 Trotwood / Alter winner
Region 9 should be very competitive. StV could possibly be on the outside looking in with this new region. Aurora dropping down should make them one of the favorites in the region. Woodridge moving up from D4 should also be very competitive with their impressive QB returning this year.
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Old 06-06-17, 06:15 PM
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Region 9 should be very competitive. StV could possibly be on the outside looking in with this new region. Aurora dropping down should make them one of the favorites in the region. Woodridge moving up from D4 should also be very competitive with their impressive QB returning this year.
ST V will win that region. I'd take St v by 21 over Aurora

Desales vs St V will be a good week 14 game

Just weird how much better D3 is than D2. Last years Desales team would have beat Perry by 30+
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Old 06-06-17, 06:32 PM
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Region 9 should be very competitive. StV could possibly be on the outside looking in with this new region. Aurora dropping down should make them one of the favorites in the region. Woodridge moving up from D4 should also be very competitive with their impressive QB returning this year.
St v is easily 14 to 17 points better that aurora if not more. Woodridge has been good the past couple of years in the regular season against a mediocre schedule at best. Once the playoffs begin they make an early exit every year due to a weak regular season schedule. The past 2 times st v and Woodridge squared off st v beat them 48-0 and 49-12. Woodridge has a long way to go before they can compete at a state level. The team to watch out for is Akron East. They are building a nice program over there and are returning a lot of speed this year. They also added William collier who is arguably one of the best running backs in summit county entering this season.
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Old 06-06-17, 06:38 PM
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ST V will win that region. I'd take St v by 21 over Aurora

Desales vs St V will be a good week 14 game

Just weird how much better D3 is than D2. Last years Desales team would have beat Perry by 30+
Why so high on StV? They really didn't have an impressive year last year. Their one solid win was against Steubeville. Couple clunkers in there for them too. The one common opponent with Aurora favors Aurora.

Not sure I agree about the D3/D2 thing either. LaSalle was in the argument for the best team in the state and had a couple tough games in the tournament.
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Old 06-06-17, 07:40 PM
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D3

R9- STVM, Akron East Aurora ???
R10- Toledo CC/Glenville
R11- Desales/Hartley
R12- Trotwood/Kettering Alter/Chaminade

STVM is very young and have multiple Freshman that have D1 Talent that started Varsity in 2016. The 2020 group lead by by QB Lindsey, RB Keyes, RB. Cook WR Ross, OL-DL Washington, LB Stams). The remaining base of the Team is the 2019 Class. The 2018 Group of OL Ervin, OL. Neil, WR-DB Walters, WR-S Younger DL-TE Taggert should provide strong leadership. The JV Squad only loss to St. Edward in 16. The schedule is the toughest In D3 (Tri Valley, Walsh Jesuit, Buchtel, Youngstown Cardinal Mooney, Hoban, Barberton, Cincinnati Lasalle, Massillon, Youngstown Ursuline. 8 of these teams are playoff Contenders with 2 defending State Champions. If the Irish qualify for the playoffs they have the size and Track speed to compete with anyone in Region 9. No School in this region will be better prepared for a possible playoff run. Other Teams like Akron East, Aurora, Woodridge, Chardon, NDCL, Louisville, Coventry, Canfield and Warren Howland will be in the mix for a playoff spot. Either STVM or Hoban have won this region the past 5 years combined with State Titles in 2012, 2013, 2015, 2016. Hoban has moved up to D2 opening up more opportunities for other teams. Akron East is loaded with D1Prospects including the top Senior RB in Summit County, William Collier. Woodridge has the top Senor QB in Mason Lydic supported by speed at the Skills. Buchtel is loaded at WR & DB's. Coventry could have their best squad in a decade lead by D1 recruit Treon Sibley. NDCL is on the rise coming off a outstanding season feasting off the East Side CYO Programs. Louisville has great tradition and Aurora has size in the trenches. All in all Region 9 should be fun to watch in 2017 but to say STVM will be on the outside looking in is a strong statement. When is the last time STVM did not qualify for the playoffs??? 2008. Their is a reason the Irish own 6 State Titles
with its blue collar brand of Football.
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Old 06-06-17, 07:47 PM
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To clarify, I didn't say they would be on the outside looking in. Just with their schedule, a 6-4 record is a possibility and with the new and rising teams in the region, that record may not garner enough points to make the playoffs.

Agreed that if they make it, they will be one of the favorites to win.

Saying this certainly shouldn't be taken as a diss. It's happened many times in the past where a top team didn't make the playoffs because of their schedule.
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Old 06-06-17, 09:25 PM
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d3 final four:

R9 stvm
r10 tcc
r11 desales
r12 trotwood
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Old 06-06-17, 11:34 PM
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Here are the 2016 computer points for the new region 9:

31.3371 Aurora (Aurora)
30.1229 Chardon (Chardon)
29.4500 Marlington (Alliance)
26.3500 Woodridge (Peninsula)
23.4500 Buckeye (Medina)
20.2146 Notre Dame-Cathedral Latin (Chardon)
19.6479 St Vincent-St Mary (Akron)
19.5066 Howland (Warren)
18.9000 East (Akron)
18.7000 Louisville (Louisville)
16.5000 Ravenna (Ravenna)
15.6500 Canfield (Canfield)
11.9500 Niles Mc Kinley (Niles)
10.5500 West Branch (Beloit)
10.3000 Revere (Richfield)
10.1000 Springfield (Akron)
9.9258 Buchtel (Akron)
9.8500 Alliance (Alliance)
9.8500 Coventry (Akron)
7.4000 Norton (Norton)
6.7500 Tallmadge (Tallmadge)
5.5000 Kenston (Chagrin Falls)
4.8000 Geneva (Geneva)
3.5677 Garfield (Akron)
1.0000 Harvey (Painesville)
0.0000 Cloverleaf (Lodi)
0.0000 North (Akron)
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Old 06-08-17, 07:55 PM
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Old 06-10-17, 01:38 PM
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I'm certainly not. What I think that Aurora brings to the game is a well organized team with depth. They may not have the flashy offense of overall team speed that you will see with some teams in this region, but they should be able to hang with anyone in a single game.
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Old 06-10-17, 02:00 PM
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2016 Computer Points for new Region 11

St Francis De Sales (Columbus) - 32.3964
Hamilton Township (Columbus) - 24.6051
Dover (Dover) - 24.4581
Eastmoor Academy (Columbus) - 23.4500
Beechcroft (Columbus) - 23.3663
New Philadelphia (N Philadelphia) - 22.9379
Sheridan (Thornville) - 18.9000
Bishop Hartley (Columbus) - 18.8889
Tri-Valley (Dresden) - 18.8000
Indian Creek (Wintersville) - 15.9000
Bellefontaine (Bellefontaine) - 15.3000
Athens (The Plains) - 14.9500
Granville (Granville) - 12.9000
Jackson (Jackson) - 12.6000
Marietta (Marietta) - 11.8708
Independence (Columbus) - 10.6000
Miami Trace (Washington Ch) - 9.4500
Buckeye Valley (Delaware) - 8.8197
Zanesville (Zanesville) - 7.8857
Hillsboro (Hillsboro) - 6.1500
Marion-Franklin (Columbus) - 5.1364
Bishop Watterson (Columbus) - 5.0838
South (Columbus) - 4.5500
Maysville (Zanesville) - 3.6500
West Holmes (Millersburg) - 3.5500
Centennial (Columbus) - 2.2341
Warren (Vincent) - 1.8704
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Old 06-12-17, 02:12 PM
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ST V will win that region. I'd take St v by 21 over Aurora

Desales vs St V will be a good week 14 game

Just weird how much better D3 is than D2. Last years Desales team would have beat Perry by 30+
Here we go with this again. D2 playoff teams were 14 - 5 against D3 playoff teams last year.Those same D2 playoff teams were 51 - 7 against all D3 competition they played. My numbers may be off a game or two. Then look at each region and go to all the D2 playoff teams and see how many good D2 playoff teams don't even play D3 schools. Most of region 6 play all D2 or D1 teams. Region 8 is always loaded with good teams.

I say again just because D3 has a few private schools that are loaded. Hoban, TCC, Desales and I'll throw in public Trotwood, doesn't mean D3 is better than D2. Those 3 privates should compete and should be in D2 every year. In my opinion they all should be D1. They would easlily compete in D1 as well.
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Here we go with this again. D2 playoff teams were 14 - 5 against D3 playoff teams last year.Those same D2 playoff teams were 51 - 7 against all D3 competition they played. My numbers may be off a game or two. Then look at each region and go to all the D2 playoff teams and see how many good D2 playoff teams don't even play D3 schools. Most of region 6 play all D2 or D1 teams. Region 8 is always loaded with good teams.

I say again just because D3 has a few private schools that are loaded. Hoban, TCC, Desales and I'll throw in public Trotwood, doesn't mean D3 is better than D2. Those 3 privates should compete and should be in D2 every year. In my opinion they all should be D1. They would easlily compete in D1 as well.
Hoban did move to D2 this year. Region 9 does look like it's really opened up for St V, even with all the new starters they'll have on both sides of the ball. Like was mentioned earlier, the schedule might be the biggest obstacle they have to overcome while they gel together.
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Old 06-13-17, 09:47 AM
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I won't say StV is 10 to 14 points better than teams I've never seen play but I will say if they play up to expectations they are going to be a tough out for anybody. The line started playing better at the end of last year and the sophomore skill group is going to be outstanding. The big question is can they fill the holes defensively they have especially in the front seven. They have a very talented duo at RB and QB that will only get better as time goes on. The schedule is very tough but if they make the playoffs I would expect a deep run with Hoban in D2
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Here we go with this again. D2 playoff teams were 14 - 5 against D3 playoff teams last year.Those same D2 playoff teams were 51 - 7 against all D3 competition they played. My numbers may be off a game or two. Then look at each region and go to all the D2 playoff teams and see how many good D2 playoff teams don't even play D3 schools. Most of region 6 play all D2 or D1 teams. Region 8 is always loaded with good teams.

I say again just because D3 has a few private schools that are loaded. Hoban, TCC, Desales and I'll throw in public Trotwood, doesn't mean D3 is better than D2. Those 3 privates should compete and should be in D2 every year. In my opinion they all should be D1. They would easlily compete in D1 as well.
Prove that i looked at those schedules and thats just not true.
No way those handful of teams played 58 games versus D3 competition being D2 if thats anywhere close those teams played in a league where they were the big dog and beat up on a lot of small D3 Teams.... Not the Big Dogs in D3
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Here we go with this again. D2 playoff teams were 14 - 5 against D3 playoff teams last year.Those same D2 playoff teams were 51 - 7 against all D3 competition they played. My numbers may be off a game or two. Then look at each region and go to all the D2 playoff teams and see how many good D2 playoff teams don't even play D3 schools. Most of region 6 play all D2 or D1 teams. Region 8 is always loaded with good teams.

I say again just because D3 has a few private schools that are loaded. Hoban, TCC, Desales and I'll throw in public Trotwood, doesn't mean D3 is better than D2. Those 3 privates should compete and should be in D2 every year. In my opinion they all should be D1. They would easlily compete in D1 as well.
I'm only talking about the teams that can win state. Not the schools happy to just make the playoffs. D2 had LaSalle. D3 had Hoban and Desales. D2 lacks catholic schools. D3 has a lot.

Just look at the quality difference at state.
D2 LaSalle, Anthony Wayne, Perry, and Hudson
D3 Hoban, Desales, Trotwood Madison, and Toledo Central Catholic

I would guess D3 had far more D1 athletes at state compared to D2
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