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Old 01-05-18, 11:02 AM
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The science behind it, from my understanding, isn't exactly clear cut.
That would be an extremely generous way of putting it.

http://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/2...ero-neurosafe/
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Old 01-05-18, 11:12 AM
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That would be an extremely generous way of putting it.

http://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/2...ero-neurosafe/
The reason I say clear cut is because I know of a current study going on that may actually show some results. Not sure if it is exactly the same concept though.
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Old 01-05-18, 11:20 AM
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Itís been 100% effective on unicorns Turpin.
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Old 01-05-18, 11:25 AM
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Itís been 100% effective on unicorns Turpin.
Yeah but they aren't very good at turning left.
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His juice blend prevented Pegasus from getting concussions
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Old 01-05-18, 11:48 AM
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Itís been 100% effective on unicorns Turpin.
Have you ever seen unicorn glue? Just isn't the same.
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Old 01-05-18, 12:59 PM
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Looks like Gruden to Oakland is official
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Old 01-05-18, 01:57 PM
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As is Guenther to Oakland as his DC.
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Old 01-05-18, 02:30 PM
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Guenther took a defense loaded with talent from Zimmer and made them into a passive “bend but don’t break” embarrassment. I’ll be happy to see a more aggressive mentality at the helm, hopefully that’s the case.
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Old 01-05-18, 02:43 PM
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10 years, $100 million for a guy who hasn't coached in 9 seasons and was 38-42 in his last 5 seasons.
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Old 01-05-18, 05:23 PM
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10 years, $100 million for a guy who hasn't coached in 9 seasons and was 38-42 in his last 5 seasons.
Amazing, huh ?

I wonder if he'll have the same work ethic he had as a coach before......
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Old 01-05-18, 05:26 PM
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Well, he's stepping into a great situation talent-wise and he's proven he can win when he's given talent. We'll see if he still has it.
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Old 01-09-18, 07:12 PM
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Does anybody else think that complaints of the Raiders breaking the "Rooney Rule" with the Gruden hire are really stupid ?
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Old 01-17-18, 01:18 PM
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Todd Haley OUT as Steelers OC. Most likely replacement is WR's coach Randy Fichtner.
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Old 01-17-18, 01:34 PM
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Scapegoat.
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Old 01-17-18, 01:37 PM
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Guenther took a defense loaded with talent from Zimmer and made them into a passive ďbend but donít breakĒ embarrassment. Iíll be happy to see a more aggressive mentality at the helm, hopefully thatís the case.
The only reason I wanted Marvin back was because I thought they would hire him. He would be worse than Marvin
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Old 01-17-18, 01:43 PM
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Scapegoat.
Everywhere Haley has been, he's had the reputation of just not being able to work well with others, as that showed the last couple years when several offensive assts just left to go elsewhere, not really seeking promotion anywhere, but just left.

i think he just wears on people, rubs people the wrong way, even though i do think he's done well the last 3 years in keeping Ben protected, which was one of the things he struggled with the first few years (although not all on him as we all know Ben brings some of that on himself)

i think it was time for someone new. I'm guessing if Fichtner gets the job, terminology, etc won't change that much, keeping continuity intact.

the real issue in the offseason will be getting that defense back up to where it needs to be.
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Old 01-17-18, 01:50 PM
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Everywhere Haley has been, he's had the reputation of just not being able to work well with others, as that showed the last couple years when several offensive assts just left to go elsewhere, not really seeking promotion anywhere, but just left.

i think he just wears on people, rubs people the wrong way, even though i do think he's done well the last 3 years in keeping Ben protected, which was one of the things he struggled with the first few years (although not all on him as we all know Ben brings some of that on himself)

i think it was time for someone new. I'm guessing if Fichtner gets the job, terminology, etc won't change that much, keeping continuity intact.

the real issue in the offseason will be getting that defense back up to where it needs to be.
Interesting I had heard Fichtner was leaving. Maybe this was the opportunity he was looking for. Also heard that Hines would step in as WR coach. I saw him on the sidelines Sunday. BTW, Fichter is the QB coach. Used to be WR coach.
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Old 01-17-18, 01:57 PM
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Everywhere Haley has been, he's had the reputation of just not being able to work well with others, as that showed the last couple years when several offensive assts just left to go elsewhere, not really seeking promotion anywhere, but just left.

i think he just wears on people, rubs people the wrong way, even though i do think he's done well the last 3 years in keeping Ben protected, which was one of the things he struggled with the first few years (although not all on him as we all know Ben brings some of that on himself)

i think it was time for someone new. I'm guessing if Fichtner gets the job, terminology, etc won't change that much, keeping continuity intact.

the real issue in the offseason will be getting that defense back up to where it needs to be.
What are your thoughts on some of the minority owners petitioning Rooney to fire Tomlin?
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Old 01-17-18, 02:06 PM
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Interesting I had heard Fichtner was leaving. Maybe this was the opportunity he was looking for. Also heard that Hines would step in as WR coach. I saw him on the sidelines Sunday. BTW, Fichter is the QB coach. Used to be WR coach.
my bad. you are correct on that. on which coach he is, that is. i hadn't read that he was leaving.
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Old 01-17-18, 02:08 PM
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What are your thoughts on some of the minority owners petitioning Rooney to fire Tomlin?
dumb. ain't gonna happen. there are plenty of Steelers fans who want Tomlin gone but really, who are you going to go get that's better?

Steelers don't fire head coaches. certainly not after a 13-3 regular season.
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Old 01-17-18, 02:09 PM
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Tomlin isn't why they're successful and has more to do with their shortcomings than anything. Any half-decent coach would go 13-3 with that roster.

The Steelers holding on to the Art Rooney country club mentality, the whole "we don't fire coaches" thing is holding them back. No other elite sports franchise puts up with this much postseason failure without making HC changes. None. The Yankees would never go 2-14 in their last 16 series included 3 AL title series against the Red Sox because that manager would have been fired years ago. The same goes for any other franchise that continually falls short.

Tomlin does nothing but talk; he's a motivator and that's it. If you wanted him to talk strategy or discipline he'd change the subject or spout off some meaningless string of cliches because he doesn't that capacity as a coach.
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Old 01-17-18, 02:18 PM
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Tomlin isn't why they're successful and has more to do with their shortcomings than anything. Any half-decent coach would go 13-3 with that roster.
Especially since the AFC North has been pretty down the last 2 years.
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Old 01-17-18, 02:49 PM
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Tomlin isn't why they're successful and has more to do with their shortcomings than anything. Any half-decent coach would go 13-3 with that roster.

The Steelers holding on to the Art Rooney country club mentality, the whole "we don't fire coaches" thing is holding them back. No other elite sports franchise puts up with this much postseason failure without making HC changes. None. The Yankees would never go 2-14 in their last 16 series included 3 AL title series against the Red Sox because that manager would have been fired years ago. The same goes for any other franchise that continually falls short.

Tomlin does nothing but talk; he's a motivator and that's it. If you wanted him to talk strategy or discipline he'd change the subject or spout off some meaningless string of cliches because he doesn't that capacity as a coach.
Not much for discipline himself-

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Old 01-17-18, 02:55 PM
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Tomlin isn't why they're successful and has more to do with their shortcomings than anything. Any half-decent coach would go 13-3 with that roster.

The Steelers holding on to the Art Rooney country club mentality, the whole "we don't fire coaches" thing is holding them back. No other elite sports franchise puts up with this much postseason failure without making HC changes. None. The Yankees would never go 2-14 in their last 16 series included 3 AL title series against the Red Sox because that manager would have been fired years ago. The same goes for any other franchise that continually falls short.

Tomlin does nothing but talk; he's a motivator and that's it. If you wanted him to talk strategy or discipline he'd change the subject or spout off some meaningless string of cliches because he doesn't that capacity as a coach.
yeah. guy knows nothing about football at all. love when fans go all "Tomlin can't coach". just goes to show how many MMQB's there are out there who know way more football than Tomlin and could coach this team better than him. it's ludicrous. makes me laugh, though.

all of you are "coaches" on here can always do a better job from your laptops when the game is over.

you're all the best "after the game is over forum posting" coaches in the world.
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Old 01-17-18, 02:58 PM
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I'm trying to find one person who said they can coach better than Tomlin.
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Old 01-17-18, 03:27 PM
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I'm trying to find one person who said they can coach better than Tomlin.
You donít think Crusaders believes he can?
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Old 01-17-18, 03:55 PM
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Does anybody else think that complaints of the Raiders breaking the "Rooney Rule" with the Gruden hire are really stupid ?
At what point does the Rooney Rule become obsolete? I mean, can't it be construed as a slap in the face if of a black coaching candidate if you are REQUIRED to interview them? We have now had several black head coaches in the NFL, and several more coordinators. I think this was relevant in the 80's not today and should be done away with.
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Old 01-17-18, 04:36 PM
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At what point does the Rooney Rule become obsolete? I mean, can't it be construed as a slap in the face if of a black coaching candidate if you are REQUIRED to interview them? We have now had several black head coaches in the NFL, and several more coordinators. I think this was relevant in the 80's not today and should be done away with.
The Raiders, especially, have had no issues hiring non-white coaches (not that it should even matter). They've had Tom Flores, Art Shell, Hue Jackson. Reggie McKenzie is the GM.
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I would not fire Tomlin. He's been good for the franchise. I thought his onside kick decision was stupid, but his overall accomplishments do not merit firing at all.
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