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Old 11-02-17, 07:01 PM
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D3 Girls Ohio State Meet, 11/4/17

Minster 45
Mount Gilead 96
McDonald 127
Gilmour Academy Gates Mills 146
West Liberty-Salem 158
Columbus Grove 186
Fredericktown 217
Versailles 247
Fort Loramie 253
Pettisville 254
Russia 259
Archbold 271
St. Henry 293
Centerburg 345
Maplewood Cortland 362
Zane Trace Chillicothe 374
Garaway Sugarcreek 403
Liberty Center 404
Lincolnview Van Wert 409
New London 414
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Old 11-03-17, 08:22 AM
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Is Tammy Berger coming back to run for the Tigers tomorrow???
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Old 11-04-17, 10:22 AM
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Emma Watcke
Minster 18:38.41
2
Grace Steimle
Grand Valley 18:52.0
3
Baylee Hack
Mount Gilead 18:55.12
4
Gwendolyn Meiring
Minster 19:03.03
5
Allison Johnson
Mount Gilead 19:07.34
6
Katie Engle
Gilmour Academy 19:08.25
7
Elizabeth Sauder
Pettisville 19:11.1
8
Anna Guerra
McDonald 19:12.3
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Old 11-04-17, 10:25 AM
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1 Minster
1-3-8-9-13-25-27
34
2 Mount Gilead
2-4-35-41-49-115-120
131
3 McDonald
7-17-29-33-52-59-98
138
4 Ft. Loramie
16-19-37-40-62-68-93
174
5 Archbold
18-23-26-45-71-124-126
183
6 Pettisville
6-14-48-50-73-116-133
191
7 Gilmour Academy
5-43-46-51-55-57-87
200
8 Columbus Grove
10-47-56-58-64-113-123
235
9 West Liberty-Salem
11-20-67-83-101-114
282
10 Fredericktown
28-31-69-78-86-107-134
292


Unofficial results.
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Old 11-04-17, 11:17 AM
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I think Minster coulda won in d2.
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Old 11-04-17, 05:08 PM
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I think Minster coulda won in d2.
Can't wait to see how much faster Emma Watcke gets. Quite the impressive gene pool....
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Old 11-05-17, 10:02 AM
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Minster has top 5 runners, and 7 of top 9, back next year.
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Old 11-05-17, 10:56 AM
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Minster has top 5 runners, and 7 of top 9, back next year.
That's often the case for them. If the younger ones don't improve as they age, they simply get replaced by younger girls who are faster. That community and program is a machine.

Incidentally, the Minster girls broke the girls DIII records for lowest point total (34, previous low was 38 set by them last year) and shattered the record for largest margin of victory (97, previous low was 57 set by them last year). On one hand, the point total record is extremely impressive given that the expanded number of teams should theoretically increase every team's point total. On the other hand, the expanded number of teams also creates the potential for a larger margin of victory.

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Old 11-05-17, 04:04 PM
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I think Minster coulda won in d2.
Understanding that it's not entirely accurate to just take times in from one race and plug them into the other, my quick comparison tells me that Minster would have scored 80 in the D2 race, defeating Lexington fairly handily. They also would have scored 209 in the D1 race with those times, likely landing them somewhere in 6th-8th place if you add the appropriate points to Davidson and Springboro.

I mean...how can you expect a school to compete with other schools that are 6 times its size?
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Old 11-05-17, 04:36 PM
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Understanding that it's not entirely accurate to just take times in from one race and plug them into the other, my quick comparison tells me that Minster would have scored 80 in the D2 race, defeating Lexington fairly handily. They also would have scored 209 in the D1 race with those times, likely landing them somewhere in 6th-8th place if you add the appropriate points to Davidson and Springboro.

I mean...how can you expect a school to compete with other schools that are 6 times its size?
That is very impressive for a that small school. Do they have a girls soccer team? If they don't that could account for perhaps a concentration of good "runners" in a single sport, combined with stable coaching, positive community/family awareness, and tradition. If that school does not have a girls high school soccer team, then even at a young age (even before middle school), the future runners are not being siphoned off by the travel soccer programs. Or maybe there is something in the water!
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Old 11-05-17, 05:10 PM
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What I know about Minster is that they are from the MAC. That league is vaunted as among the best small school leagues in ohio football. And it just so happens, the mac schools do well in other sports as well. There is just a lot of athleticism in that part of the world for starters. You combine that with the stuff that insidecorner was saying, and your talking about an xc program that can do a lot for its small district size, in the middle of rural America (so they cant recruit or rely much off of open enrollment, like their more (sub)urban counterparts).
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Old 11-05-17, 06:20 PM
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I know a lot about Minster. Having observed them on the big stage for close to 20 years. First off their team is very generational. Mothers, daughter's, cousins etc have competed for them. They have had two. Great hall of Fame type coaches. Their middle school teams are large considering the size of the city. They don't have any strong private schools in the area . Put all that together and you will be in the conversation most years. I believe they are top three in titles won. And that's with letting a few slip away.
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Old 11-05-17, 06:33 PM
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No soccer on that town.
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Old 11-05-17, 07:22 PM
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I've visited Minster before. I find the town very attractive since I'm not into the hustle, bustle, and congestion of big city life (resided in Columbus for a year and hated it).

No soccer.

HS sports are a source of pride in all MAC communities. It's a throwback to how many Ohio towns were before the collapse of the heavy manufacturing sector, most notably the steel industry. What went on at the HS was very important to the identity of the community in those days. The MAC schools all tend to be good at something, not just football. IIRC, every school in the league has won a state title of some kind except for possibly New Bremen (which is arguably the most well-to-do community in the conference).

Safe, clean, town which makes for good running. The community obviously embraces the sport. The annual Oktoberfest 10K attracts a very strong field of over 1200 participants. Also, the town and its surroundings are pan flat, so there are less obstacles that hinder many beginners. There are no complaints about not wanting to run because of hilly terrain.

As CVC mentioned, no private HSs nearby to reduce the talent pool in the MAC communities. Celina had a Catholic HS that closed many years ago. Depending on where one lives in MAC country, the nearest parochial options would be Lehman Catholic, Lima Central Catholic, and fellow league member Delphos St. John's who is rather geographically isolated from the rest of the conference.

Good genetics. Minster itself is not a farming community compared to Maria Stein where Marion Local is located, but the surrounding area is mostly farmland that has been farmland for nearly 175 years. Minster was a canal town. The German and French laborers who dug the canal settled in the area when they saw how good the land would be for farming. Most people in the area know what physically demanding activities are all about.

I'm betting most kids come from stable 2-parent homes, and I'm betting the town has relatively low unemployment. Dannon has a facility on the south end of town, and there is some other large industrial looking facility on the west side of town, but I don't know what it is. That makes it easier for kids to participate in extracurricular activities rather than possibly needing to get a job after school to earn spending money or to help the family.

Fort Loramie is not a MAC member but shares many of the same characteristics of the MAC schools. FL is only 2 or 3 miles away from Minster. They've had their own share of athletic success in recent years.

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Old 11-05-17, 08:04 PM
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Throw in Versailles. They are eight down the road.
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Old 11-05-17, 08:43 PM
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I need some Dannon Fruit on the bottom Boysenberry, Blackberry and Raspberry. I cannot find it anywhere and I cannot stand any of the new yogurts out in the markets today. Someone down there help me out. I have not had any yogurt that I like for many years.
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Old 11-05-17, 10:03 PM
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Thank you for the information Mr. Slippery. It is obvious you get around a lot, and take an interest in the various different places you go to.

One thing also interesting about MAC country. Is that that area is heavily populated by German-Catholics. Not sure what is more Catholic; Mac Country, or the catholic parochial schools of ohio. I myself am Catholic, so I certainly find it fascinating. Maria Stein Marion- an obviously catholic name. The public schools here have a close working relationship with the locals catholic identity, to the point that they even have had nuns working as teachers in these public schools. And hour long lunch brakes (where the kids can go across the street to the church and take a religion class). There are public schools walking a very fine line in regards to incurring the wrath of the aclu. But I'd say MAC folks are among the most gutsy.

One thing I love about high school sports. It really puts the spotlight on these communities that otherwise would have no notoriety whatsoever. To put simply, high school sports is literally putting communities on the map. And it is really so fascinating to me to learn about all these different diverse communities. They are really so diverse, but high school sports has a way of uniting us all.
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Old 11-06-17, 12:16 AM
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Throw in Versailles. They are eight down the road.
What do you mean? Versailles is in the MAC and has been for awhile, so all my prior thoughts regarding Minster and the conference extend to them.
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