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Old 12-21-17, 08:00 PM
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Stats, they haven't won a title in a decade. Also stats, they've been at least a 2 seed every year since '09... One Final Four
Only 4 teams have more titles in the 2000s than KU.
Only 2 teams have more Final 4's in the 2000s than KU.
Only 1 team has more tournament wins than KU.
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Old 12-21-17, 08:06 PM
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To be fair your Duke has only 2 national championships since 2004, the baseline year for your first two stats.

The fact of the matter is not many teams over achieve consistently in the NCAA tourney.
Duke isn't even my team, but part of the reason Coach K gets a pass is because he's won 5 titles over 3 decades. That's the point I was trying to make.

By that same time frame, Izzo hasn't won any titles since his was in 2000. But Izzo's teams usually aren't seeded as high as Duke and Kansas and he still does well in the tournament regardless.
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Old 12-21-17, 08:06 PM
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In MSU and Wisky's case, actually getting to multiple Final Fours. In Xavier's case, it's going to the Elite multiple times despite never bring higher than a 3 Seed.

6 times under Self, Kansas has been a #1 seed and not gotten to a FF. That's the work of a choke artist.
Since 2000 (and overall) KU has won more tournament games than all those teams and been to more Final 4's and won more championships than XU and Wisconsin. Next?
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Old 12-21-17, 08:09 PM
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Since 2000 (and overall) KU has won more tournament games than all those teams and been to more Final 4's and won more championships than XU and Wisconsin. Next?
Its funny, you think I don't see what you're doing by using the year 2000 as a benchmark. How about the last decade? Kansas has 1 title the others don't, but they also have much more talent. How often are Wisky and XU 1 seeds?
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Old 12-21-17, 08:12 PM
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Duke isn't even my team, but part of the reason Coach K gets a pass is because he's won 5 titles over 3 decades. That's the point I was trying to make.

By that same time frame, Izzo hasn't won any titles since his was in 2000. But Izzo's teams usually aren't seeded as high as Duke and Kansas and he still does well in the tournament regardless.
Exactly. Can't compare them on an absolute basis bc Duke and Kansas (usually) have substantially more talent. When you're a 1 seed, you're expected to get to a FF, not the case when you're a 4 or 5 seed like MSU.
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Old 12-21-17, 08:24 PM
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For fun let's look at how well some of the teams mentioned on here have fared against the protected seeds (1-4) in the 2000s.

Xavier - 5-10
Wisconsin - 8-9
Michigan St - 14-10
Duke - 9-6
North Carolina - 13-9
Kansas - 12-11

Surprise surprise. KU has a winning record as do UNC, Duke, and MSU. It's almost like KU is one of the best tournament teams or something.
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Old 12-21-17, 08:26 PM
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Its funny, you think I don't see what you're doing by using the year 2000 as a benchmark. How about the last decade? Kansas has 1 title the others don't, but they also have much more talent. How often are Wisky and XU 1 seeds?
There's been several time frames mentioned here. Last decade, since Self became KU's coach, in the 2000s. KU holds their own in every single one of them.

I like going back a little farther to get more data. Sorry? If I really had an agenda why wouldn't I start with 2002?
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Old 12-21-17, 08:30 PM
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KU loses alot when they're a #1 seed. KU is a #1 seed alot. Weird how that works out.

I've never denied KU has a few blemishes on their record. But so does literally every single team. The bottom line is that no matter what criteria, time frame, or qualifications you choose, KU will most likely be in the top 5 of every single one of them.
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Old 12-21-17, 08:49 PM
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By the numbers:

Average Seed since 2004:
Duke - 2.07
Kansas - 1.92
Michigan State - 5.29

Average Seed to knock them out of tournament:
Duke - 5.36
Kansas - 5.79
Michigan State - 4.86
-If they won the NC we'll count it as 0

Total National Championships by HC at school:
Coach K - Duke - 5
Self - Kansas - 1
Izzo - Michigan State - 1
Didn't have a chance to look at this earlier, but was curious as to where each team finished in the tournament after knocking out Duke, Kansas and Michigan State. If we take where said team finished with 1 being the National Champion, 2 being Runner-up, 4 if they made the FF, etc. Here's where they stood.

Duke
2004 - UConn - National Champion - 1
2005 - Michigan State - Final Four - 4
2006 - LSU - Final Four - 4
2007 - VCU - 2nd Round - 32
2008 - West Virginia - Sweet 16 - 16
2009 - Villanova - Final four - 4
2010 - Duke won NC - 0
2011 - Arizona - Regional Final - 8
2012 - Lehigh - 2nd Round - 32
2013 - Louisville - National Champion - 1
2014 - Mercer - 2nd Round - 32
2015 - Duke won NC - 0
2016 - Oregon - Regional Final - 8
2017 - South Carolina - Final Four - 4
Totals - 146

Kansas
2004 - Georgia Tech - Runner-up - 2
2005 - Bucknell - 2nd Round - 32
2006 - Bradley - Sweet 16 - 16
2007 - UCLA - Final Four - 4
2008 - Kansas won NC - 0
2009 - Michigan State - Sweet 16 - 16
2010 - Northern Iowa - Sweet 16 - 16
2011 - VCU - Final Four - 4
2012 - Kentucky - National Champion - 1
2013 - Michigan - Runner-up - 2
2014 - Stanford - Sweet 16 - 16
2015 - Wichita State - Sweet 16 - 16
2016 - Villanova - National Champion - 1
2017 - Oregon - Final Four - 4
Total - 130

Michigan State
2004 - Nevada - Sweet 16 - 16
2005 - North Carolin - National Champion - 1
2006 - George Mason - Final Four - 4
2007 - North Carolin - Regional Final - 8
2008 - Memphis - Runner-up - 2
2009 - North Carolina - National Champion - 1
2010 - Butler - Runner-up - 2
2011 - UCLA - 2nd Round - 32
2012 - Louisville - Final Four - 4
2013 - Duke - Regional Final - 8
2014 - UConn - National Champion - 1
2015 - Duke - National Champion - 1
2016 - Middle Tennessee - 2nd Round - 32
2017 - Kansas - Regional Final - 8
Total - 119

So based on everything I've looked up today, Kansas is about on par with Duke when it comes to bad losses in the Tournament. Perception tells people that Coach K's 5 titles mean he doesn't choke, but they've actually had several worse exits than Kansas even though they have one more National Title over that time. Izzo's teams tend to overachieve based on their seed and they generally lose to teams in the tournament who go far.
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Old 12-21-17, 09:42 PM
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Didn't have a chance to look at this earlier, but was curious as to where each team finished in the tournament after knocking out Duke, Kansas and Michigan State. If we take where said team finished with 1 being the National Champion, 2 being Runner-up, 4 if they made the FF, etc. Here's where they stood.

Duke
2004 - UConn - National Champion - 1
2005 - Michigan State - Final Four - 4
2006 - LSU - Final Four - 4
2007 - VCU - 2nd Round - 32
2008 - West Virginia - Sweet 16 - 16
2009 - Villanova - Final four - 4
2010 - Duke won NC - 0
2011 - Arizona - Regional Final - 8
2012 - Lehigh - 2nd Round - 32
2013 - Louisville - National Champion - 1
2014 - Mercer - 2nd Round - 32
2015 - Duke won NC - 0
2016 - Oregon - Regional Final - 8
2017 - South Carolina - Final Four - 4
Totals - 146

Kansas
2004 - Georgia Tech - Runner-up - 2
2005 - Bucknell - 2nd Round - 32
2006 - Bradley - Sweet 16 - 16
2007 - UCLA - Final Four - 4
2008 - Kansas won NC - 0
2009 - Michigan State - Sweet 16 - 16
2010 - Northern Iowa - Sweet 16 - 16
2011 - VCU - Final Four - 4
2012 - Kentucky - National Champion - 1
2013 - Michigan - Runner-up - 2
2014 - Stanford - Sweet 16 - 16
2015 - Wichita State - Sweet 16 - 16
2016 - Villanova - National Champion - 1
2017 - Oregon - Final Four - 4
Total - 130

Michigan State
2004 - Nevada - Sweet 16 - 16
2005 - North Carolin - National Champion - 1
2006 - George Mason - Final Four - 4
2007 - North Carolin - Regional Final - 8
2008 - Memphis - Runner-up - 2
2009 - North Carolina - National Champion - 1
2010 - Butler - Runner-up - 2
2011 - UCLA - 2nd Round - 32
2012 - Louisville - Final Four - 4
2013 - Duke - Regional Final - 8
2014 - UConn - National Champion - 1
2015 - Duke - National Champion - 1
2016 - Middle Tennessee - 2nd Round - 32
2017 - Kansas - Regional Final - 8
Total - 119

So based on everything I've looked up today, Kansas is about on par with Duke when it comes to bad losses in the Tournament. Perception tells people that Coach K's 5 titles mean he doesn't choke, but they've actually had several worse exits than Kansas even though they have one more National Title over that time. Izzo's teams tend to overachieve based on their seed and they generally lose to teams in the tournament who go far.
5 titles is a hell of a lot more than 1. K's haven't been great in the tourney, but they're not the master chokers Self's teams are.
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Old 12-21-17, 09:43 PM
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KU loses alot when they're a #1 seed. KU is a #1 seed alot. Weird how that works out.

I've never denied KU has a few blemishes on their record. But so does literally every single team. The bottom line is that no matter what criteria, time frame, or qualifications you choose, KU will most likely be in the top 5 of every single one of them.
Yeah, they're a #1 seed bc they play in a weak conference and roll into March with an inflated record.
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Old 12-21-17, 10:34 PM
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Yeah, they're a #1 seed bc they play in a weak conference and roll into March with an inflated record.
Haha you think the Big 12 is weak? You've really gone off the deep end. Let's check the facts (which yet again are against you). The Big 12 has been either the 1st or 2nd best conference in college basketball the past 5 seasons (ever since their realignment).

Big 12 Conference RPI Rank
2017-2018: 1st
2016-2017: 2nd (ACC)
2015-2016: 1st
2014-2015: 1st
2013-2014: 1st

You just keep digging yourself into a deeper and deeper hole.
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Old 12-21-17, 10:58 PM
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Haha you think the Big 12 is weak? You've really gone off the deep end. Let's check the facts (which yet again are against you). The Big 12 has been either the 1st or 2nd best conference in college basketball the past 5 seasons (ever since their realignment).

Big 12 Conference RPI Rank
2017-2018: 1st
2016-2017: 2nd (ACC)
2015-2016: 1st
2014-2015: 1st
2013-2014: 1st

You just keep digging yourself into a deeper and deeper hole.
That RPI rank is skewed with the inclusion of Kansas. ACC and B10 generally have more depth and higher quality teams.
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Old 12-21-17, 11:00 PM
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That RPI rank is skewed with the inclusion of Kansas.

Every conference’s RPI is skewed by the good (and bad) teams in it. Get over yourself.
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Old 12-21-17, 11:08 PM
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Every conference is skewed by the good (and bad) teams in. Get over yourself.
Except it's skewed heavy by the fact Kansaa is the overall #1 seed followed by a lot of slightly above avg teams (WV, OK, Baylor, OSU). The only truly bad team is Tech. The ACC and B10 have higher quality teams at the top and really crappy teams at the bottom.
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Old 12-21-17, 11:13 PM
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Except it's skewed heavy by the fact Kansaa is the overall #1 seed followed by a lot of slightly above avg teams (WV, OK, Baylor, OSU). The only truly bad team is Tech. The ACC and B10 have higher quality teams at the top and really crappy teams at the bottom.

So...your argument as to why you think the Big 12 is weak is that it only has 1 truly bad team...whereas the ACC and B10 are better...because they have more than 1 crappy team?

Do you see how ridiculous you sound? You’re making this too easy.
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Old 12-21-17, 11:14 PM
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5 titles is a hell of a lot more than 1. K's haven't been great in the tourney, but they're not the master chokers Self's teams are.
Over the same time frame the results say otherwise. We're talking Self's tenure at Kansas which is since 2004. We can either take the first 14 years of Coach K's career at Duke to compare or compare the exact same time frame. Either span of 14 years only includes 2 of the 5 titles. Coach K has been at Duke almost 40 years, compared to Self's 14 at Kansas.
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Old 12-21-17, 11:15 PM
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That RPI rank is skewed with the inclusion of Kansas. ACC and B10 generally have more depth and higher quality teams.
ACC yes, B1G no. We're not talking football Pboy, the Big XII is routinely listed as one of the top two conferences in basketball. Only a B1G homer would think they're up there with the Big XII and ACC.
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Old 12-21-17, 11:21 PM
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So...your argument as to why you think the Big 12 is weak is that it only has 1 truly bad team...whereas the ACC and B10 are better...because they have more than 1 crappy team?

Do you see how ridiculous you sound? You’re making this too easy.
It's weak bc it's Kansas, a bunch of mediocre to above avg teams and Tech. How many FFs does the B12 this decade? I'm guessing 2, both by Kansas. WV was still in the Big East when they went in '09. Like Kansas, the rest of the Conference seems to choke in the Tourney as well.

Face it, Kansas is the fake news of college bball. Every year idiots pick them to win it all and every year, they piss down their leg.
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Old 12-21-17, 11:23 PM
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ACC yes, B1G no. We're not talking football Pboy, the Big XII is routinely listed as one of the top two conferences in basketball. Only a B1G homer would think they're up there with the Big XII and ACC.
Wisky, Michigan State, even Michigan has been to a FF more recently than Kansas.
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Old 12-21-17, 11:27 PM
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It's weak bc it's Kansas, a bunch of mediocre to above avg teams and Tech. How many FFs does the B12 have this Decade? I'm going to go out on a limb and say 2, both by Kansas. Like Kansas, the rest of the Conference seems to choke in the Tourney as well.

Face it, Kansas is the fake news of college bball. Every year idiots pick them to win it all and every year, they piss down their leg.

Oklahoma was in the Final 4 literally 2 years ago haha.

Face it. You have nothing but your weak (and wrong) opinions. Every single claim you have made is easily disprovable with facts and statistics.

Kansas has been one of the best and most consistent tournament teams in recent history. Get over it.
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Old 12-22-17, 08:26 AM
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And yes, Memphis pissing that game away at the Foul Line coupled with Chalmers shot was a fluke. Face it, Kansas is fake good every year. Only idiots think winning the B12 every year means a god dam thing.
Memphis as a team shot 61% from the free throw line that year. That wasn't a fluke, that was great strategy by Self.
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Old 12-22-17, 09:54 AM
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Oklahoma was in the Final 4 literally 2 years ago haha.

Face it. You have nothing but your weak (and wrong) opinions. Every single claim you have made is easily disprovable with facts and statistics.

Kansas has been one of the best and most consistent tournament teams in recent history. Get over it.
Consistently losing as a Top Seed. Seriously, how can you blatantly ignore failing to reach the FF SIX times as a 1 seed? I know it's hard to get to a FF, but it's expected when you're a 1 seed.

And Oklahoma made the FF, That's 3 in a decade, hardly anything to brag about.
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Consistently losing as a Top Seed. Seriously, how can you blatantly ignore failing to reach the FF SIX times as a 1 seed? I know it's hard to get to a FF, but it's expected when you're a 1 seed.

And Oklahoma made the FF, That's 3 in a decade, hardly anything to brag about.

Duke has also failed to reach the Final 4 six times as a #1 seed under Coach K ('98, '00, '02, '05, '06, '11). Duke is also one of the best and most consistent tournament teams in recent history.

How can you blatantly ignore that literally every team has bad tournament losses? Continuing to single out KU only shows your willful ignorance of the facts.
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Should be noted, these were pboy's takes on Gonzaga before the tournament started last year(ended up making the championship and nearly winning.)

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They're not that good. Realistically, they're a 3 seed who played a weak schedule.
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Refs bail out Gonzaga w/ trash call. And the announcers still hyping them as a FF contender...
Fair to question whether he has any clue what he's talking about when he goes on these sort of rants.
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Old 12-22-17, 10:38 AM
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Should be noted, these were pboy's takes on Gonzaga before the tournament started last year(ended up making the championship and nearly winning.)

Fair to question whether he has any clue what he's talking about when he goes on these sort of rants.
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Old 12-22-17, 11:27 AM
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Should be noted, these were pboy's takes on Gonzaga before the tournament started last year(ended up making the championship and nearly winning.)











Fair to question whether he has any clue what he's talking about when he goes on these sort of rants.
Yeah bc Gonzaga had such a tough road to the FF. They caught a break in almost every round.
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Old 12-22-17, 11:31 AM
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Duke has also failed to reach the Final 4 six times as a #1 seed under Coach K ('98, '00, '02, '05, '06, '11). Duke is also one of the best and most consistent tournament teams in recent history.

How can you blatantly ignore that literally every team has bad tournament losses? Continuing to single out KU only shows your willful ignorance of the facts.
He's also won 3 Titles going back to that time frame.
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