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Old 02-10-18, 06:47 PM
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I wouldn't say I hate Trump. I don't have any respect for him, however, because he is a small, bigoted man with a bad inferiority complex and no control whatsoever on what he says. His presidency disgusts me on a number of levels and most of his supporters disappoint me.

Do you really believe one word he says?
I don't automatically believe him nor do I automatically not believe him. He has been proven right about some stuff and proven wrong. Did you believe Obama when he said you can keep your Dr.? I feel the same way about Hillary supporters, dissapointment.

The biggest problem I see is the Trump haters carry their hate to the voters. I hated Obama but I would never use violence or belittle someone because they did vote for him. Sure I blast on cabe for being a 2x trigger puller for the worst president the US has ever seen, but other than that....nothing. We will get through it.
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Old 02-10-18, 07:55 PM
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Do you really believe one word he says?
Take away his hyperbolic bloviations, and I find little in the way of real obfuscation and deception. He is trying to deliver on his campaign goals. Those are the things that he said that most interest me.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-37982000


Not a bad first year. Even the ones marked "abandoned" were likely abandoned due to a lack of 'Pub support.

He has already undone a fair amount of Obama's fiat legislation by Order and Memorandum of his own, and seeks to solidify much via legislation. If Congress shifts further his way, I'd expect an even more rapid pace.

Judicial appointments will be as he indicated. Looking forward to 7 more years of those
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Old 02-11-18, 08:09 AM
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The haters are always more entertaining. Remember when Trump haters and Obama haters thought that both would run the country into the ground? And yet here we are. It's funny how no one learns.
This. The idea that somehow one guy can burn the country down in four years is pretty silly. The main difference I see this round, as Ted said...the vitriol shown toward the "supporters" of the POTUS. That's new this time, and not a hopeful trend.
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Old 02-11-18, 09:25 AM
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That hits the nail on the head pretty well re the hate toward Trump supporters. I think the biggest misconception is that it is possible to support him but still find him to be an idiot on many occasions. It’s a choice of prioritizing policies over media “noise.” The left can’t seem to understand that.

I did not vote for him, but certainly preferred him to Hillary.
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Old 02-11-18, 11:34 AM
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I agree fish and Winston. The Obama hate got pretty bad, but I never remember it getting physically violent too many times(or at all, but I'm sure there were instances).
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Old 02-11-18, 12:34 PM
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I don’t think Mickey or I have physically confronted anyone who likes trump. In all honestly, I’ve never had a cross word with a trump supporter outside of here.
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Old 02-11-18, 12:38 PM
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This. The idea that somehow one guy can burn the country down in four years is pretty silly. The main difference I see this round, as Ted said...the vitriol shown toward the "supporters" of the POTUS. That's new this time, and not a hopeful trend.
Yeah, it can be really difficult for some to grasp that we are not electing a King to the White House. Even with a little Executive over-reach, such moves aren't as binding as real legislation.
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Old 02-11-18, 12:40 PM
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Remember when moedud seriously insisted Obama was going to install himself as king? What a moron.
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Old 02-11-18, 12:45 PM
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That hits the nail on the head pretty well re the hate toward Trump supporters. I think the biggest misconception is that it is possible to support him but still find him to be an idiot on many occasions. It’s a choice of prioritizing policies over media “noise.” The left can’t seem to understand that.

I did not vote for him, but certainly preferred him to Hillary.
I think more on the left understand it than actually behave that way.

It's in their interest to achieve a critical mass of stupid if a bit of a frenzy will spread from it. It's like a crazed Twitter Age version of the Karl Rove drill, repeating something over and over until it's accepted. These days, a certain amount of sensationalism is required to get the ball kicked downfield toward the "goal".
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Old 02-11-18, 12:48 PM
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Remember when moedud seriously insisted Obama was going to install himself as king? What a moron.
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Old 02-11-18, 01:03 PM
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I don’t think Mickey or I have physically confronted anyone who likes trump. In all honestly, I’ve never had a cross word with a trump supporter outside of here.
Same but on the other political side. It's easy to troll people on here for their vote.
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Old 02-11-18, 03:03 PM
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This. The idea that somehow one guy can burn the country down in four years is pretty silly. The main difference I see this round, as Ted said...the vitriol shown toward the "supporters" of the POTUS. That's new this time, and not a hopeful trend.
I don't think it's new at all.

But yes, the idea that one president can ruin the world is absurd.
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Old 02-11-18, 03:05 PM
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Remember when moedud seriously insisted Obama was going to install himself as king? What a moron.
This was the norm among the debate forum folks. Obama was more disrespected by folks who didn't like him than Trump has been. The difference is that Trump is actually a truly bad person rather than simply someone with different political beliefs.
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Old 02-11-18, 03:10 PM
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the worst president the US has ever seen
This is absurd, first of all.

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I don't automatically believe him nor do I automatically not believe him. He has been proven right about some stuff and proven wrong. Did you believe Obama when he said you can keep your Dr.? I feel the same way about Hillary supporters, dissapointment.
Second, no, I do not believe anything Trump says. He's not genuine. I have family who actually believe he gives a crap about abortion. He cares about nothing other than his brand. There were a lot of things to disagree with Obama about and there were a lot of things to disagree with GWB about ... but they were genuinely decent people.
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Old 02-11-18, 03:13 PM
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The haters are always more entertaining. Remember when Trump haters and Obama haters thought that both would run the country into the ground? And yet here we are. It's funny how no one learns.
Trump won't run the country into the ground. He doesn't have near enough time or near enough support.
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Old 02-11-18, 03:17 PM
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I don’t think Mickey or I have physically confronted anyone who likes trump. In all honestly, I’ve never had a cross word with a trump supporter outside of here.
Same.
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Old 02-11-18, 03:40 PM
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This is absurd, first of all.



Second, no, I do not believe anything Trump says. He's not genuine. I have family who actually believe he gives a crap about abortion. He cares about nothing other than his brand. There were a lot of things to disagree with Obama about and there were a lot of things to disagree with GWB about ... but they were genuinely decent people.
Fair enough.
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Old 02-11-18, 03:49 PM
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I can say without reservation that I was never “disappointed” with any “supporters” of any previous president.
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Old 02-11-18, 03:50 PM
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I can say without reservation that I was never “disappointed” with any “supporters” of any previous president.

Full disclosure: I’m on my 3rd Macallan at the Sky Club. So, there’s that.
You getting ready to fly some people around?
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Old 02-11-18, 05:09 PM
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You getting ready to fly some people around?
No...just a passenger. That would be pretty awesome though. I could totally fly a plane drunk.
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Old 02-11-18, 06:05 PM
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I don’t think Mickey or I have physically confronted anyone who likes trump. In all honestly, I’ve never had a cross word with a trump supporter outside of here.
Yeah but it seems you don't have a life outside of here either...

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Old 02-11-18, 06:46 PM
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I can say without reservation that I was never “disappointed” with any “supporters” of any previous president.
I've had longtime friends start spouting some pretty irrational and disappointing things since about January 2016. They've shown themselves to not be who I thought they were and it wasn't about more or less government.
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Old 02-11-18, 07:07 PM
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Yeah but it seems you don't have a life outside of here either...
Well, that’s hurtful. But I do.
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Looks like Bruce Willis is going to take a run at the old Death Wish vigilante character. Should make for some great sardonic wise crack farewells to some bad guys getting their karmic paybacks
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I've had longtime friends start spouting some pretty irrational and disappointing things since about January 2016. They've shown themselves to not be who I thought they were and it wasn't about more or less government.
I felt the same way, coming from both sides, and questioned anyone's intelligence if you voted for hillary or Trump in the past election.
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Ted let's go to Hong Kong. That thing is huge!
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That thing is atleasy 600
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I bet the tusks are crazy big. You ever see that one they call Hogzilla. I guess natgeo exhumed the skeleton and said that thing was over 800 lbs
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