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Old 08-12-17, 03:06 PM
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Old 08-12-17, 03:08 PM
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The car attack is Islamic Terrorist type shi* and should be treated as such - hope they catch the perpetrator and anyone involved in planning it soon.
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Old 08-12-17, 03:21 PM
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The car attack is Islamic Terrorist type shi* and should be treated as such - hope they catch the perpetrator and anyone involved in planning it soon.
Before we find whether this criminal was from the right or left, can we all agree that he/she should be given the maximum penalty for their crime.

These people on both sides acting like enemy combatants are ridiculous.
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Old 08-12-17, 03:30 PM
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About what I expected this group to look like

What's amazing is how much they look like the Occupy idiots..... yuppies with torches they bought at Target's Lawn and Garden shop!
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Old 08-12-17, 03:45 PM
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Good to have hobbies, maybe they will cancel each other out. Just don't bring that shyte around my homestead, ammos been cheap lately.
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Old 08-12-17, 03:48 PM
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The most "humorous" part of this is the mention of the made up boogieman "organization" alt-right. The leftist media is so embarrassing.
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Old 08-12-17, 03:57 PM
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What's amazing is how much they look like the Occupy idiots..... yuppies with torches they bought at Target's Lawn and Garden shop!
Kind of miss the days when rioters at least looked like they could hold their own against something bigger than a chihuahua. lol

Be fun to play both sides against each other, double agent leader setting mutual parade times and wait for the slap fight to break out.
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Old 08-12-17, 04:03 PM
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Looks the guy who owns the car that was driven into the crowd is a Communist. Figures.
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Old 08-12-17, 04:14 PM
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What's amazing is how much they look like the Occupy idiots..... yuppies with torches they bought at Target's Lawn and Garden shop!
And golf shirts from Abercrombie & Fitch.

Hopefully they used the citronella oil so the mosquitoes stayed away.
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Old 08-12-17, 04:15 PM
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Sounds like antifa showed up, as usual started the violence, and now both sides have pretty much gone full ratard.

Does that sum it up, or did I miss something?
It's bush's fault.
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Old 08-12-17, 04:22 PM
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Just to add to this, the people tearing down confederate statues have alot in common with the Muslim extremists that decided to tear down other religions significant works of art and statues. IMO, it's scary that we live in a time where people try to erase historical references to something that they don't agree with.
We (country) does respect civil war history and memorialized many sites. Thousands visit every year. I think equating statues (honoring) of confederate leaders is a bit of a stretch. Especially to ISIS. Seriously? More akin to objections to public displays of the flag.

Btw, I'm seeing more and more confederate flags pop up, clear out here in Ashtabula County. Wtf? Good to know I guess, like Beware of Idiot. Sad though.
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Old 08-12-17, 04:30 PM
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- Insane political correctness has fueled the growth of the alt-right.

- If you let PC troll you into calling yourself a white nationalist, you're an idiot.

Both can be true.
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Old 08-12-17, 06:54 PM
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Looks like an Ohioan is responsible for the car attack.

Wonder how many of these idiots grandfathers and great grandfathers fought this very thing in Europe? Pathetic.

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Old 08-12-17, 06:58 PM
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Old 08-12-17, 07:06 PM
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Can we just nuke Charlottesville right now and rid ourselves of all of these parasites?
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Old 08-12-17, 07:25 PM
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What a bunch of nonsense this all is. I hate white supremacists just as much as the next guy, so I typically go out of my way to avoid pre-announced meeting locations in an effort to promote self-preservation and accepted social norms - like working a job, not hating people based on race, getting on with my life, etc.

The antifa/anti-protesters who showed up to counter the white supremacists/Nazis didn't go in thinking their interactions would be civil or beneficial in any way. They showed up looking for a fight and looking for martyrdom-fame that only further polarizes the extremist wings of the political spectrum. It's really shameful that we have devolved to the point where people are feeling the need to get physically violent over others' speech/opinions.
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Old 08-12-17, 07:30 PM
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It's hilarious how the left refuses to take any responsibility for this escalation of violence and political extremism. These current problems didn't arise until Progressives began spewing their identity politics BS: publicly denouncing all white people as a group for being inherently racist and oppressive and telling people it's not possible to be racist towards whites because they're the majority.

We've always had Neo-Nazis/ White Supremacists in our country. They're a minuscule population, and rarely did anything significant happen when they rallied or protested, even if there were counter-protesters around. Most understood what the 1st Amendment protects even the most obscene points of views, otherwise there would be no reason to have it in the first place.
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Old 08-12-17, 07:33 PM
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It's hilarious how the left refuses to take any responsibility for this escalation of violence and political extremism. These current problems didn't arise until Progressives began spewing their identity politics BS: publicly denouncing all white people as a group for being inherently racist and oppressive and telling people it's not possible to be racist towards whites because they're the majority.

We've always had Neo-Nazis/ White Supremacists in our country. They're a minuscule population, and rarely did anything significant happen when they rallied or protested, even if there were counter-protesters around. Most understood what the 1st Amendment protects even the most obscene points of views, otherwise there would be no reason to have it in the first place.
See my earlier post.

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- Insane political correctness has fueled the growth of the alt-right.

- If you let PC troll you into calling yourself a white nationalist, you're an idiot.

Both can be true.
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Old 08-12-17, 07:40 PM
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Progressives are not only illiberal, they're anti-liberalism and authoritarian, and so people are right to fear them gaining control. While I agree white nationalism is an idiotic response, these people are not being trolled into it. They genuinely fear Progressives gaining political power because it's an ideology that is proposing measures of retribution against whites because of whatever things happened in the past they think white people are due to be punished for.
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Old 08-12-17, 07:40 PM
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- Insane political correctness has fueled the growth of the alt-right.

- If you let PC troll you into calling yourself a white nationalist, you're an idiot.

Both can be true.
Trump has fueled it too. Admit it. Starting with birthirism to much of his rhetoric from the campaign through to today. His Chief Strategist, in the White House, is part of this movement. (What is he thinking tonight?) As well as other close associates. The White Nationslist movement feels empowered. And Trump knows that is a significant part of his constituency. That's why his response was pathetic. Next few days will be interesting.
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Old 08-12-17, 07:43 PM
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Sad day for America. Some thoughts:

* Free speech shall not be stopped. I don't care how noxious the white supremacists message is they have a right to peacefully protest. Violence on the other hand is not acceptable. The challenge is what about violence arising out of self defense? That's the million dollar question and I have no easy answer for it.

* Whoever drove the car into the crowd needs to go to jail for a long time.

* President Trump made a powerful & appropriate statement concerning the violence:




* My question is why are people surprised this happened? For the last year the Antifa and other progressive left thugs have engaged in violent protests without consequences. Throw in the BLM "protests" & urban riots over the last two years and is it any surprise that protestors on the right respond with their own violence and expect to get away with it?

* This is also the natural outcome of 8 years of Obama's policy of dividing this country along racial, sexual orientation, religious and ethnic lines.

* As long as the progressive left & democrat party advances identity politics at the expense of everything else we can expect more of the violence we saw today. For the last couple of years the thugs on the left were encouraged to riot and attack the right. Now we have thugs on the right returning the favor. What a shocker.

* Today was utterly predictable and the only surprise IMO is that it took so long.
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Old 08-12-17, 07:46 PM
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Progressives are not only illiberal, they're anti-liberalism and authoritarian, and so people are right to fear them gaining control. While I agree white nationalism is an idiotic response, these people are not being trolled into it. They genuinely fear Progressives gaining political power because it's an ideology that is proposing measures of retribution against whites because of whatever things happened in the past they think white people are due to be punished for.
They have the White House. Congress. Senate. Supreme Court. And most governorships. They are the opposite of scared. Pitifully weak take.
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Old 08-12-17, 07:47 PM
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* Today was utterly predictable and the only surprise IMO is that it took so long.
Universities and colleges will be back in session soon. This is probably just the first of many incidents we're going to see.
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Old 08-12-17, 07:48 PM
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They have the White House. Congress. Senate. Supreme Court. And most governorships. They are the opposite of scared. Pitifully weak take.
This has literally nothing to do with what I said.
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Old 08-12-17, 07:49 PM
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Trump has fueled it too. Admit it. Starting with birthirism to much of his rhetoric from the campaign through to today. His Chief Strategist, in the White House, is part of this movement. (What is he thinking tonight?) As well as other close associates. The White Nationslist movement feels empowered. And Trump knows that is a significant part of his constituency. That's why his response was pathetic. Next few days will be interesting.
No he didn't. This "protest" by the white supremacists is the natural reaction to Obama & democrat identity politics. When BLM leaders get invited to the White House and Antifa thugs can attack folks with impunity a violent backlash from the right was inevitable. When the media praised BLM & urban riots in response to police shootings and the powers that be failed to crack down on the violent behavior of BLM & Antifa they sowed the wind and now they cry that they've reaped a whirlwind.
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Old 08-12-17, 07:50 PM
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Progressives are not only illiberal, they're anti-liberalism and authoritarian, and so people are right to fear them gaining control. While I agree white nationalism is an idiotic response, these people are not being trolled into it. They genuinely fear Progressives gaining political power because it's an ideology that is proposing measures of retribution against whites because of whatever things happened in the past they think white people are due to be punished for.
Their response is the exact opposite of the correct way to counter the progressive movement. Showing up and doing Nazi salutes, chanting white power, and topping it off with running a car into a group of people is exactly the sort of behavior that will now portray the progressives as the victims.

Both sides are complete and total morons who want nothing more than to play the victim and incite violence. They both got what they wanted today. Any justification or rationalization of either sides behavior is a joke.
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Old 08-12-17, 07:52 PM
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Looks the guy who owns the car that was driven into the crowd is a Communist. Figures.
Where did you hear this? Most reports are its some 20 year old named James Fields from Maumee, Ohio and his political affiliations are unclear at this point.
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Old 08-12-17, 08:01 PM
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It was originally found that the car belonged to a guy with a history of pro-Communist, anti-Trump Facebook postings. Later it was revealed the car was recently sold to Fields. The story currently is Fields panicked when his car was attacked by people (supposedly ANTIFA people but nothing has been confirmed as far as I know).
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Old 08-12-17, 08:05 PM
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Their response is the exact opposite of the correct way to counter the progressive movement. Showing up and doing Nazi salutes, chanting white power, and topping it off with running a car into a group of people is exactly the sort of behavior that will now portray the progressives as the victims.

Both sides are complete and total morons who want nothing more than to play the victim and incite violence. They both got what they wanted today. Any justification or rationalization of either sides behavior is a joke.
I don't really know how many of the people around today were extreme Alt-Righters and not old school Jim Crow racists and actual Neo-Nazis. Judging by the pictures, last night was mostly Alt-Right, today was classic White Supremacists.

I am no rationalizing their violence, only their fear of the Progressive ideology. I agree their method of countering their political opposition is moronic.
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Old 08-12-17, 08:09 PM
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It was originally found that the car belonged to a guy with a history of pro-Communist, anti-Trump Facebook postings. Later it was revealed the car was recently sold to Fields. The story currently is Fields panicked when his car was attacked by people
Yeah, really looks like a case of panicking when attacked here...



I think you need some better sources and/or a better compass for filtering information.
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