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Old 11-14-17, 09:44 AM
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Coaching Change at Butler

We heard late in the season that some were calling for changes. Doesnít look like that is happening but I just wondered what is the typical timeline for that type of stuff?
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Old 11-14-17, 10:33 AM
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We heard late in the season that some were calling for changes. Doesnít look like that is happening but I just wondered what is the typical timeline for that type of stuff?
You may be about to find out.
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Old 11-14-17, 11:52 AM
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For all the turmoil at Butler, you still seem to have, at the very least, a competitive product every year. But I would never profess to know the inner workings of whatever mess you have going on.
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Old 11-14-17, 12:02 PM
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For all the turmoil at Butler, you still seem to have, at the very least, a competitive product every year. But I would never profess to know the inner workings of whatever mess you have going on.
They're not getting the best athletes in the building. Get someone over there to get the best athletes out on the field and court. The baseball team is good every year the best program in the area every year. The athletes are there.
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Old 11-14-17, 12:35 PM
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They're not getting the best athletes in the building. Get someone over there to get the best athletes out on the field and court. The baseball team is good every year the best program in the area every year. The athletes are there.
Is that the problem? too many kids are focusing on one sport only? for a Div II school, that can be a huge mountain to climb.
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Old 11-14-17, 12:38 PM
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They're not getting the best athletes in the building. Get someone over there to get the best athletes out on the field and court. The baseball team is good every year the best program in the area every year. The athletes are there.
This is also due to the fact that Dues is an amazing coach. Lets also be honest here, having a good baseball team doesn't mean you have the athletes to be competitive in football and basketball. A baseball athlete is a different type of athlete. Not in a bad way. Do you get what I'm saying?
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Old 11-14-17, 12:40 PM
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Most of the kids are multi sport athletes. They had some of the best talent on the field this year but when you have a head coach that they donít want to play for because he is more concerned about himself and his image there is were the problem is.


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Old 11-14-17, 12:41 PM
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They're not getting the best athletes in the building. Get someone over there to get the best athletes out on the field and court. The baseball team is good every year the best program in the area every year. The athletes are there.
They have baseball kids. They need more basketball players and skill kids to run track. They also need more than an hour and twenty minutes at 5:45 in the morning in the weight room.
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Old 11-14-17, 01:03 PM
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The drummer tweeted out that the football and soccer coach will not be back for 2018 at Vandalia


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Old 11-14-17, 01:11 PM
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The drummer tweeted out that the football and soccer coach will not be back for 2018 at Vandalia


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I heard something went down yesterday. Didn't know exactly what, but I do now.
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Old 11-14-17, 01:25 PM
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He's out like a fat kid in dodge ball
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Old 11-14-17, 02:09 PM
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how long was he there? 3 years?
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Old 11-14-17, 02:18 PM
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Did he coordinate the O or D?
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Old 11-14-17, 02:43 PM
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5-5 and 4-6 in 2 seasons. He's an Offensive guy but delegated coordinating duties to another coach. He was in charge of tweeting and promotion.
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Old 11-14-17, 02:59 PM
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We heard late in the season that some were calling for changes. Doesnít look like that is happening but I just wondered what is the typical timeline for that type of stuff?
I said he was gone and now he is gone. Didnt even show up to school today. Funny you posted this when it happened.
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Old 11-14-17, 02:59 PM
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5-5 and 4-6 in 2 seasons. He's an Offensive guy but delegated coordinating duties to another coach. He was in charge of tweeting and promotion.
And running his mouth on Yappi.
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Old 11-14-17, 03:27 PM
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I think Butler would have been 4-6 no matter who was on the sidelines this season. Just IMO.
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Old 11-14-17, 04:07 PM
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I said he was gone and now he is gone. Didnt even show up to school today. Funny you posted this when it happened.
Where is the official announcement? Or is this just wishful desires?
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Old 11-14-17, 04:13 PM
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Where is the official announcement? Or is this just wishful desires?
See post #9
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Old 11-14-17, 04:17 PM
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See post #9
I do not tweet. There is nothing on the Drummer web site.
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Old 11-14-17, 04:34 PM
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I do not tweet. There is nothing on the Drummer web site.
I don't tweet either. You can go to the Drummer Twitter Website and it's right there.
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Old 11-14-17, 04:35 PM
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The Vandalia Drummer has confirmed that @Vandaliabutler football coach and Butler girls soccer coach will not return in 2018. More details to come tomorrow.
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Old 11-14-17, 06:00 PM
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The problem wasn't coaching. Guess we will see next year if this team can do better than 4-6 or 5-5. If you ran the average for number of wins in a season each and every year at Butler I bet it averages out to about 5 wins a year. Sad to see a good guy get a raw deal but at the end of the day it's a business. Best of luck to Coach Hyatt and best of luck to Butler I hope both get to enjoy future success. I supported the Hyatt hire and I will support the new coach as well. I have been standing in those stands for 27 years and that doesn't change with the coaches.
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Old 11-14-17, 06:58 PM
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I'm sure it's anyone's guess but is the consensus that Butler stays internal and promotes an assistant as they typically do or do they go external and bring in new blood? If they were to go external any chance Lance Schneider gets a look? Ron Ullery?
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Old 11-14-17, 07:05 PM
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I don't tweet either. You can go to the Drummer Twitter Website and it's right there.
Found it. Thanks
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Old 11-14-17, 10:07 PM
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Important hire. What about the previous coach? Newish AD new direction?
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Old 11-15-17, 05:07 AM
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I'm sure it's anyone's guess but is the consensus that Butler stays internal and promotes an assistant as they typically do or do they go external and bring in new blood? If they were to go external any chance Lance Schneider gets a look? Ron Ullery?
Heck, I'll settle for somebody who will throw the ball to Johnson about 10 times a game. For that kid to have a little over 20 catches on the season is ridiculous. I guess that's where I would disagree with you about sub par coaching.

As far as the next coach goes, I'm pretty confident this job will go to an outside candidate this time. Of the current staff only one teaches at the High School and he's a fairly young guy. There is only a few that have been coordinators and 1 ex Head Coach. There possibly may be nobody on the staff that wants the job.

IMO, they need to hire a guy that has Head Coaching experience because he's walking into what seems to be a little bit of a pressure cooker. It's hard to say because nobody seems to know what the exact circumstances were that either got him fired or made him decide to resign.

Short list of potential candidates that come to mind are pretty familiar.
Lance Scheider
Rick Meeks HC Springfield Shawnee
John Puckett DC Centerville
John Cupps DC Middletown
Andy Aracri DL Centerville Ex Fairmont HC
Rick Robertson Maybe?
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Old 11-15-17, 08:26 AM
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The problem wasn't coaching. Guess we will see next year if this team can do better than 4-6 or 5-5. If you ran the average for number of wins in a season each and every year at Butler I bet it averages out to about 5 wins a year. Sad to see a good guy get a raw deal but at the end of the day it's a business. Best of luck to Coach Hyatt and best of luck to Butler I hope both get to enjoy future success. I supported the Hyatt hire and I will support the new coach as well. I have been standing in those stands for 27 years and that doesn't change with the coaches.
The probelm was coaching. Worst defense in league gave up almost 400 yards a game. And the whole dline was all league. Thats coaching. Offense scored 30 game but it should have been better. Threw it too much and turned it over because of it. Coaching was a major problem.
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Old 11-15-17, 08:30 AM
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This will be an interesting pool of candidates.

Other than the usuals a short list of D4-D7 coaches who could get a look:
(Just my thoughts, I do not know of any actual interest for these men)

Mike Hetrick- HC Brookville (continued success)
Scott Clodfelter- HC Bethel (big school and small school success)
Neil Kasner- HC Greeneview (he just seems to win everywhere but has a comfortable gig)
Mike Brown- HC Carlisle (continued success at increasing levels)
Ty Cates- HC Covington (coming off a down year but intriguing)


Any others?
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Old 11-15-17, 08:42 AM
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Solid list of names by VBHS and History Teacher. I’d love to see Butler go out of district for this new hire to switch it up a bit. There was s thread on here earlier about Derge. If Tipp were to part ways with him I’d hope he would be a candidate here. Butler has a history of hiring teachers currently in the district but I think it’s time to widen the search and bring in some new blood. This is a very important hire and they have to get it right. Bring in a guy that can rack up the W’s. And while we are at it let’s get a schedule that makes sense. Get out of this Northmont fiasco.
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