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View Poll Results: Who wins?
Canfield by 17+ 4 5.56%
Canfield by 8-16 13 18.06%
Canfield by 1-7 20 27.78%
STVM by 1-7 20 27.78%
STVM by 8-16 11 15.28%
STVM by 17+ 4 5.56%
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Old 11-11-17, 09:25 PM
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Are the penalties holding, motion, off sides, etc., or the more nefarious personal fouls?
Mostly offsides, false starts, neutral zone infractions, illegal procedure and delay of game.

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Old 11-11-17, 09:26 PM
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Mostly offsides, false starts, neutral zone infractions, illegal procedure and delay of game.

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Old 11-11-17, 09:29 PM
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Oh and holding or clipping on returns. Can't forget those.

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Old 11-11-17, 09:37 PM
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Oh and holding or clipping on returns. Can't forget those.

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Clearly their penchant for miscues hasn't impeded their undefeated record! A clean slate every game.
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Old 11-11-17, 09:43 PM
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SVSM has played many games on the road, all over the place. This venue won't be a problem. Field is still 100 yards long. The Irish will show up and play their game. Whether or not they win, will be decided Friday night.
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Old 11-12-17, 10:24 AM
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Not sure about SV-SM but Canfield played almost 3 quarters against ND-CL without their starting QB. He apparently has some sort of injury to his ankle, he saw limited time as a slot receiver meanwhile they utilized the wildcat quite a bit.


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I hope the QB can come back close to 100%. I know injuries are part of the game at this time of year, but I'm looking forward to see the Irish go against a Canfield team at close to full strength.
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Old 11-12-17, 10:56 AM
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I hope the QB can come back close to 100%. I know injuries are part of the game at this time of year, but I'm looking forward to see the Irish go against a Canfield team at close to full strength.
I know several players are definitely "out" and Fiorenza won't be 100% but cannot go into more detail obviously. Fiorenza may not even play at QB, it just depends on how he feels, it is likely a gametime decision.

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Old 11-12-17, 12:30 PM
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Sounds like sour grapes. Could have been a 35-7 pounding if the Irish didn’t put in the 2nd string halfway through the 4th quarter. Shut Tallmadge out after the 1st drive of the game. Plenty to be impressed with.....especially on the defensive side of the ball.
No sour grapes at all. STVM beat Tallmadge and deserved to win the game. However if you think they dominated Tallmadge you clearly were not watching the same game. Game was much closer than score indicated. Tallmadge pissed away two big opportunities righty before half and start of 3rd quarter. Could have been a completely different game if either of those possessions are converted. Tallmadge went away from what was working offensively and had some poor clock management. It wasn't that STVM them down.

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Old 11-12-17, 01:11 PM
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I️ donít think Trotwood is beatable by any D3 team. Saw them beat Pickerington Central and they have serious athletes at every position. Big, strong, fast and quick. They really get to the ball and they get there angry. The D3 playoffs are to see who will be runner up.
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Old 11-12-17, 01:20 PM
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I️ donít think Trotwood is beatable by any D3 team. Saw them beat Pickerington Central and they have serious athletes at every position. Big, strong, fast and quick. They really get to the ball and they get there angry. The D3 playoffs are to see who will be runner up.
Only teams with a chance will be TCC, Hartley and maybe Canfield if they are 100% healthy.

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Old 11-12-17, 01:31 PM
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I️ donít think Trotwood is beatable by any D3 team. Saw them beat Pickerington Central and they have serious athletes at every position. Big, strong, fast and quick. They really get to the ball and they get there angry. The D3 playoffs are to see who will be runner up.
Same thing was said last year going into championship game and Trotwood was taken to the woodshed. They destroyed TCC week prior whereas Hoban came back and beat Desales. Trotwood was out coached, outplayed and physically beaten and no one saw it coming. Nothing is a given and everyone is beatable. They are 16-17 year old kids. I will say they appear to be on track to win it all but Hartley may have something to say about it.
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Old 11-12-17, 03:14 PM
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No sour grapes at all. STVM beat Tallmadge and deserved to win the game. However if you think they dominated Tallmadge you clearly were not watching the same game. Game was much closer than score indicated. Tallmadge pissed away two big opportunities righty before half and start of 3rd quarter. Could have been a completely different game if either of those possessions are converted. Tallmadge went away from what was working offensively and had some poor clock management. It wasn't that STVM them down.

Best of luck to the Irish against Canfield.
Looking at the stats, Tallmadge had no air game to help them win that game.
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Old 11-12-17, 03:36 PM
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Looking at the stats, Tallmadge had no air game to help them win that game.
Yep. What were they, like 3 for 7 for 4 yards with an interception? Watching the game, it was obvious that SVSM wasn't the least bit concerned with the Tallmadge passing game. It also appeared that a team with a decent offensive line could run between the tackles against SVSM.
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Old 11-12-17, 07:05 PM
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I️ donít think Trotwood is beatable by any D3 team. Saw them beat Pickerington Central and they have serious athletes at every position. Big, strong, fast and quick. They really get to the ball and they get there angry. The D3 playoffs are to see who will be runner up.
I'm not buying in on Trotwood until they actually do it. They are a nice team and a proven program, but the hype train slams into the wall in week 14 or 15 far too often for me to buy in now.
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Old 11-12-17, 08:10 PM
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Not to mention trotwoods do everything runningback Hargrove was injured last Friday and didn't return. Trotwood is a different team without him.
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Old 11-12-17, 09:09 PM
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Looking at the stats, Tallmadge had no air game to help them win that game.
Canfield has no passing attack either...even with their starter
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Old 11-12-17, 09:41 PM
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If fiorenza doesn't play QB svsm will win by 10+ (17-6 type game). If he's moderately healthy and starts under center I think Canfield can pull it off. 24-17ish type game.
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Old 11-12-17, 09:46 PM
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Canfield has no passing attack either...even with their starter
Canfield generally has not needed to pass much since they have been so successful running the ball. But earlier in the season they threw the ball very successfully against a couple teams that completely sold out to stop the run. Look at the passing numbers from games like Chardon.

Why pass the ball when you don't need to and only risk an increased chance of a turnover (i.e. interception or strip sack)?

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Old 11-12-17, 09:50 PM
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If fiorenza doesn't play QB svsm will win by 10+ (17-6 type game). If he's moderately healthy and starts under center I think Canfield can pull it off. 24-17ish type game.
I think it is really hard to judge because there is no way to know how it will go if he plays slot receiver since he has not played there much. Canfield scored two touchdowns on ND-CL without Fiorenza at QB using the wildcat so I would not totally rule out them winning anyways especially if the defense plays well.

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Old 11-12-17, 10:23 PM
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Canfield has no passing attack either...even with their starter
They have Mike Pavlansky coaching them. Heís really a solid coach.
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Old 11-12-17, 10:24 PM
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Not completely ruling out the cardinals. Just my opinion. Fiorenza is arguably canfields best athlete. You need plenty of those if you want to knock off a svsm style team. Also being a senior there's a huge leadership advantage putting the ball in his hands on every down. Imo with his ability at full strength under center provides a huge offensive spark. I still give the defense credit hence the 17 point svsm prediction. Trust me that's a great defensive performance vs that kind of skill. It'll be a bigger task for Canfield to make up points this week than it will be for svsm. The cardinals have to win the turnover battle and dominate field position to win this game.
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Old 11-12-17, 10:32 PM
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High ankle sprains generally take anywhere from 3 to 5 weeks to heal.
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Old 11-12-17, 11:27 PM
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I still give the defense credit hence the 17 point svsm prediction. Trust me that's a great defensive performance vs that kind of skill. It'll be a bigger task for Canfield to make up points this week than it will be for svsm. The cardinals have to win the turnover battle and dominate field position to win this game.
StV's offense is relatively weak. Its their defense that makes them very good. Considering that Canfield has given up 17+ points one time this year, I doubt StV will be the second team. For StV to win, they need a low scoring game.
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St V by 10
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Old 11-13-17, 12:38 AM
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Old 11-13-17, 09:03 AM
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Time to get specific!!! STVM defense scores a TD; and they get another TO setting up the Irish with a short field for a TD. The Irish offense scores on one long play and on one long drive. STVM wins 28-14. And the Canfield faithful go home shaking their heads, and rightfully so (!), that but for a couple of plays, the outcome could have been different! Go Irish!
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Old 11-13-17, 09:14 AM
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Time to get specific!!! STVM defense scores a TD; and they get another TO setting up the Irish with a short field for a TD. The Irish offense scores on one long play and on one long drive. STVM wins 28-14. And the Canfield faithful go home shaking their heads, and rightfully so (!), that but for a couple of plays, the outcome could have been different! Go Irish!
Except for possibly one time this year, no one has scored a defensive touchdown on Canfield.

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Old 11-13-17, 09:20 AM
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Except for possibly one time this year, no one has scored a defensive touchdown on Canfield.

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I don't doubt that, but my crystal ball is green and gold and it's tough make out all of the details sometimes!
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Old 11-13-17, 09:24 AM
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I don't doubt that, but my crystal ball is green and gold and it's tough make out all of the details sometimes!
Actually it never happened. They did allow a TD on a return once though, but Canfield's kicker gets a touchback 95% of the time and most punts are not returnable.

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Old 11-13-17, 09:39 AM
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Not to mention trotwoods do everything runningback Hargrove was injured last Friday and didn't return. Trotwood is a different team without him.
Only reason he didn't return is because the game was out of reach at halftime and there was no reason to risk re-injury. I haven't seen St.V this year but I find it hard to believe they wouldn't stand a chance against us? Yes we beat Pick Central but every week is a new game and different gameplan. I imagine the winner of this game has the best shot other than maybe TCC. Idk if Hartley has the athletes to keep up for 4 quarters?
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