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Old 11-14-17, 04:25 PM
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What's that old saying "if you aint cheatin you aint tryin" LOL Why debate this nonsense? It's been going on for years. Nothing has come of it. NOTHING! LOL. OHSAA has photos & films of cheating. Nothing Happens. If you think Jeff Rotzky is the only coach in Ohio that plays the Gray Line, then you must have been born last night.
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Old 11-15-17, 08:08 PM
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My favorite was his first year at Euclid when he borrowed 6 players from Cleveland Heights for the football season. They all transferred back to Cleveland Heights after the football season and graduated with their classmates.
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Old 11-15-17, 08:24 PM
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My favorite was his first year at Euclid when he borrowed 6 players from Cleveland Heights for the football season. They all transferred back to Cleveland Heights after the football season and graduated with their classmates.
Is this true?
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Old 11-16-17, 09:48 AM
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My favorite was his first year at Euclid when he borrowed 6 players from Cleveland Heights for the football season. They all transferred back to Cleveland Heights after the football season and graduated with their classmates.
When you have mercenaries pulling that off, that destroys the value of the diploma.
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Old 11-17-17, 11:32 AM
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OHSAA has bigger fish to fry than Rotsky........

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Why start following the rules now. The OHSAA turns its back on everything this guys does so why would an illegal practice or two be a problem?
First, I would love to see Jeff Rotsky at Benedictine, but on a short leash. He does some crazy maneuvers for sure, but the personal, quality time and direction he invests in his players is unique. Like watching hours of game film to bring out the best in his recruits/players. He is an excellent coach and motivator.

If OHSAA wanted to crack down on questionable tactics, particularly tampering, they can make an example out of one of the highest profile head coaches in Ohio, Ted Ginn Sr. Not only does he discourage players from the "hood" from enrolling in Parochial schools, once they do, he continues to call them each year during the summer, inviting them on his bus tours and trying to convince them to transfer. But nobody will crack on Ginn for fear of discrimination charges.

I'm sure there are other coaches out there doing the nasty, but Rotsky and Ginn may be the biggest offenders, and you can't discipline one and not the other.
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Old 11-17-17, 12:24 PM
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First, I would love to see Jeff Rotsky at Benedictine, but on a short leash. He does some crazy maneuvers for sure, but the personal, quality time and direction he invests in his players is unique. Like watching hours of game film to bring out the best in his recruits/players. He is an excellent coach and motivator.

If OHSAA wanted to crack down on questionable tactics, particularly tampering, they can make an example out of one of the highest profile head coaches in Ohio, Ted Ginn Sr. Not only does he discourage players from the "hood" from enrolling in Parochial schools, once they do, he continues to call them each year during the summer, inviting them on his bus tours and trying to convince them to transfer. But nobody will crack on Ginn for fear of discrimination charges.

I'm sure there are other coaches out there doing the nasty, but Rotsky and Ginn may be the biggest offenders, and you can't discipline one and not the other.
Rotsky is a man that promotes faith with his players (you can get away with that at some public schools), but he is not Christian, let alone a Catholic. Do Catholic schools tend to hire varsity coaches that are at least Christian, if not Catholic?

For the record, I don't think Rotsky needs to leave Euclid. He has them going in a good direction. But when the time comes, I wonder where he will end up next.
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Old 11-17-17, 06:54 PM
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When you have mercenaries pulling that off, that destroys the value of the diploma.
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Old 11-17-17, 07:33 PM
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Rotsky is a man that promotes faith with his players (you can get away with that at some public schools), but he is not Christian, let alone a Catholic. Do Catholic schools tend to hire varsity coaches that are at least Christian, if not Catholic?

For the record, I don't think Rotsky needs to leave Euclid. He has them going in a good direction. But when the time comes, I wonder where he will end up next.
Chanel hired him, no?

Not sure how it is elsewhere, but being Catholic is not a requirement to be employed at my Catholic school which is diocesan run (not Diocese of Cleveland). However, if I am Catholic, I cannot leave the Church. If I am not Catholic, I cannot promote my faith to the students. Either one would be grounds for dismissal. Catholicism is a proselytizing faith. If a teacher or student is not of the faith, he or she is welcome. That all flies right in the face of private school detractors who try to play the "what percentage of your team is actually Catholic?" card. Of course, Catholic schools will accept non-Catholics. The hope is that they can be converted to the faith.

My diocesan code of conduct policy requires me to promote the Catholic faith and the school's values in all settings both in and out of school. Independently run Catholic schools, like a Benedictine, might have different employment requirements.

Incidentally, years ago when I was in Columbus looking for a job, I once saw an ad in the Dispatch for a teaching position at a Christian school where being a born-again Christian was a requirement.
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Old 11-17-17, 07:46 PM
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Chanel hired him, no?
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And then DB and HSfan60 placed all of Chanel's sins upon Rotsky, and cast him out into the wilderness
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Old 01-03-18, 07:33 PM
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off season

Euclid football is off to a strong off season. The boys allegedly stole money out of the booster club's concession stand. Then followed that up with clogging the toilets in the boys bathroom, defecating on top and flooding the floor in the bathroom and hallway. All on security cameras.

AD has threaten to close down the building after school to everyone so the wrestling team and basketball teams can't practice.

Other sport teams at Euclid must hold their own fundraisers to pay for coaches and uniforms because the football team has broke the budget. Now they might take away their practice time. Hey I guess if 2-3 kids get a college scholarship and attend 1 semester before flunking out it is worth it. The other hundreds of kids in sports at Euclid don't matter.
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Old 01-03-18, 07:55 PM
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I read it like three times to see if he was actually serious. Yep, that damn diploma from ten years ago now that you've graduated from college and are in the real world sure is diminished from your actions. Dear GAWD.
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Old 01-04-18, 11:25 AM
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Is this true?
I know somebody on the Heights staff. They lost two kids to Euclid that way. Neither one of them ever lived in Euclid. One of them transferred back, the other was going to, but decided to stay and graduate at Euclid. There was another kid that transferred to Euclid from Shaker, after the season was over he transferred back to Shaker.
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Old 01-04-18, 08:50 PM
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How did he miss out on Tyreke Smith? I'm sure it wasn't for a lack of trying.
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Old 01-04-18, 09:14 PM
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How did he miss out on Tyreke Smith? I'm sure it wasn't for a lack of trying.
In the recruiting article discussing Tyreke Smith's recent verbal commitment to OSU his high school coach says Smith is a great character guy and 4.0 student....Your answer is, he's too smart and classy for Rotsky's BS.
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Old 01-04-18, 11:53 PM
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In the recruiting article discussing Tyreke Smith's recent verbal commitment to OSU his high school coach says Smith is a great character guy and 4.0 student....Your answer is, he's too smart and classy for Rotsky's BS.
Rotsky tried to get him as a 9th grader, he didn't want to play football at that point
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Old 01-05-18, 06:29 AM
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I read it like three times to see if he was actually serious. Yep, that damn diploma from ten years ago now that you've graduated from college and are in the real world sure is diminished from your actions. Dear GAWD.
What percent of the students from that school do you think benefit from that follow-on dilplima? What he posted is correct. The value of the local school diploma is raised or lowered by the actions of those that follow affecting the reputation of the school. It might not mean much in California but it does more locally.

Dear GAWD, one shouldn't have had the experience of triaging resumes to be able to foresee this. Agreeing with DB can be more difficult, but in this case, blind squirrel.
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Old 01-05-18, 07:37 AM
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What percent of the students from that school do you think benefit from that follow-on dilplima? What he posted is correct. The value of the local school diploma is raised or lowered by the actions of those that follow affecting the reputation of the school. It might not mean much in California but it does more locally.

Dear GAWD, one shouldn't have had the experience of triaging resumes to be able to foresee this. Agreeing with DB can be more difficult, but in this case, blind squirrel.
Please stop. Not sure what world you live in but in my business world some high school diploma from ten years ago doesn't mean squat. But hey, if you guys think you can justify it by all means continue on.
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Old 01-06-18, 07:56 PM
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Strong class coming in

Not sure if there is overlap in these rumors or if they are 3 different players.

1. Bringing in a stud from Aurora.
2. A recruits dad was just hired by the school to oversee the weight room.
3. Had a 7th grader on campus for unofficial visit, since an official visit is illegal.

Urban Meyer could learn a thing or two.
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Old 01-07-18, 08:56 AM
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What percent of the students from that school do you think benefit from that follow-on dilplima? What he posted is correct. The value of the local school diploma is raised or lowered by the actions of those that follow affecting the reputation of the school. It might not mean much in California but it does more locally.

Dear GAWD, one shouldn't have had the experience of triaging resumes to be able to foresee this. Agreeing with DB can be more difficult, but in this case, blind squirrel.
Please stop. Not sure what world you live in but in my business world some high school diploma from ten years ago doesn't mean squat. But hey, if you guys think you can justify it by all means continue on.
I don't know what you think I was "justifying," I addressed only the comments regards present reputation of a school and how that affects past graduates. Something every school board, public or private is held accountable for.

What happens at those schools today, affects the graduates of yesterday. You would consider your "business world" the norm for most people? Regardless you now have a PhD, what high school did you attend? Let's see if its reputation affects perceptions of you?


If you as big-shot biz owner ( that's what you meant, right) has to triage, let's keep it small, 100 job applications and 50 show from school with not so good reputation but slightly higher GPA and maybe even played football and 50 from school with great reputation, how are you going to triage?

I've no way to know what "world" of business you live in but I suspect (as would be normal) it is a narrow one. Perhaps this is not something within your world. But I suspect you have a place for educational history on your job applications and I suspect those have a "where." When triaging hundreds of job applications, it will be relevant.

Yes in MY real world, the far majority of people looking for jobs are not college graduates. They are not business owners. The far majority of graduates from the far majority of high schools do not fit into those categories. They are local people getting local jobs who depend upon the reputation of their school to uphold.
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Old 01-07-18, 09:21 AM
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Dear God nobody, and I mean NOBODY gives a rat's azz about where you went to high school when reviewing resumes. If you believe that I honestly don't know what world you are living in. Surely you aren't serious about this, right?
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Old 01-07-18, 09:34 AM
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Not sure if there is overlap in these rumors or if they are 3 different players.

1. Bringing in a stud from Aurora.
2. A recruits dad was just hired by the school to oversee the weight room.
3. Had a 7th grader on campus for unofficial visit, since an official visit is illegal.

Urban Meyer could learn a thing or two.
This was confirmed to me a while ago about an Aurora player going to Euclid.

Aurora is a better school system, is a a consistent program, and has a solid coaching staff. Iím sure itís all about academics...
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Old 01-07-18, 09:43 AM
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Euclid football is off to a strong off season. The boys allegedly stole money out of the booster club's concession stand. Then followed that up with clogging the toilets in the boys bathroom, defecating on top and flooding the floor in the bathroom and hallway. All on security cameras.

AD has threaten to close down the building after school to everyone so the wrestling team and basketball teams can't practice.

Other sport teams at Euclid must hold their own fundraisers to pay for coaches and uniforms because the football team has broke the budget. Now they might take away their practice time. Hey I guess if 2-3 kids get a college scholarship and attend 1 semester before flunking out it is worth it. The other hundreds of kids in sports at Euclid don't matter.
Sounds like he is going to be getting the boot soon. Who would want to send their kids there with the mercenaries running the school?
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So how does it work? Just sign a month to month lease at one of those big aparment complexes on the lake and you are a Euclid resident for the football season? I'm betting this kid graduates with his class at Aurora when the time comes. Rotsky is really expanding his recruiting base with this one. What could possibly be the incentive other than something underhanded to move from Aurora, an excellent school and football program,to go to Euclid?? Why not go to Solon if you aren't happy at Aurora? Anyone know who his top three targets are at QB for next year? Probably needs some help on the O line too.
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First, I would love to see Jeff Rotsky at Benedictine, but on a short leash. He does some crazy maneuvers for sure, but the personal, quality time and direction he invests in his players is unique. Like watching hours of game film to bring out the best in his recruits/players. He is an excellent coach and motivator.
Of course you would, he coaches the "catholic" way.
Like every coach in Ohio doesn't spend hours watching game film.
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Old 01-07-18, 06:17 PM
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Euclid football is off to a strong off season. The boys allegedly stole money out of the booster club's concession stand. Then followed that up with clogging the toilets in the boys bathroom, defecating on top and flooding the floor in the bathroom and hallway. All on security cameras.

AD has threaten to close down the building after school to everyone so the wrestling team and basketball teams can't practice.

Other sport teams at Euclid must hold their own fundraisers to pay for coaches and uniforms because the football team has broke the budget. Now they might take away their practice time. Hey I guess if 2-3 kids get a college scholarship and attend 1 semester before flunking out it is worth it. The other hundreds of kids in sports at Euclid don't matter.
All you need to know
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Old 01-07-18, 06:20 PM
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Not sure if there is overlap in these rumors or if they are 3 different players.

1. Bringing in a stud from Aurora.
2. A recruits dad was just hired by the school to oversee the weight room.
3. Had a 7th grader on campus for unofficial visit, since an official visit is illegal.

Urban Meyer could learn a thing or two.
You got an axe to grind.So tell us what yours is?
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Old 01-07-18, 06:31 PM
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Sounds like he is going to be getting the boot soon. Who would want to send their kids there with the mercenaries running the school?
Does it sound that way?What makes you think he will get fired due to the dumb punks and the actions of the thug idiot kids he is trying to help.Maybe to no avail.But he tries no less.Not like Euclid was a monestary of value and virginity and Rotsky was brought in with his thug recruits and now this great school has trouble.Plenty of sec.8 trash there whether he coaches at Euclid or not. If they shytt can him for the behavior of the kids(the administration knows he sticks a foot up their azzez for this type of shyte) then they can expect it to only get worse.The bashing here is getting stupid and this thread is getting to be a witch hunt.

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Not sure if there is overlap in these rumors or if they are 3 different players.

1. Bringing in a stud from Aurora.
2. A recruits dad was just hired by the school to oversee the weight room.
3. Had a 7th grader on campus for unofficial visit, since an official visit is illegal.

Urban Meyer could learn a thing or two.
Current 8th grader from Aurora?
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Current 8th grader from Aurora?
Don't think there are any studs in Aurora that left for Euclid. Did lose their only returning lineman to Ravenna.
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