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Old 11-07-17, 05:53 PM
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Ball's little bro just got busted for shoplifting in China with a UCLA teammate...seriously, can't make this stuff up.

Honestly, the Ball family is just a hollywood nightmare.
Even weirder is that it sounds like Ga Tech players were with him
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Old 11-07-17, 06:12 PM
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Ball's little bro just got busted for shoplifting in China with a UCLA teammate...seriously, can't make this stuff up.

Honestly, the Ball family is just a hollywood nightmare.
I'm definitely NOT a fan of daddy Ball, but I believe this is the 1st transgression of a Ball. Hollywood Diva... sure. Overrated.. perhaps. Time will tell. Nightmare? Nope
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Old 11-09-17, 02:59 PM
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Another solid 3/15 for Lonzo last night, 9 points in 39 minutes. So at what point if your the Lakers do you pull the plug on this kid or at least pull his minutes back? I mean really, has he even earned any playing time, or do you just automatically give it to him because of ratings?? Kid looks overwhelmed out there.
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Old 11-09-17, 03:00 PM
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They should definitely pull the plug 11 games into his rookie year. Just cut him, bring someone up from the G league.
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Old 11-09-17, 03:03 PM
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Stat line for current MVP front runner Giannis Antetokounmpo's rookie season

PPG - 6.8
RPG - 4.4
APG - 1.9
FG% - .414
3P% - .159

On 25 MPG

14red would have cut him. He looked overwhelmed his rookie year.
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Old 11-09-17, 03:09 PM
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They should definitely pull the plug 11 games into his rookie year. Just cut him, bring someone up from the G league.
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Old 11-09-17, 03:23 PM
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Jason Kidd through 11 games as a 21 year old rookie (above); Lonzo Ball through 11 games as a 19/20 year old rookie (below):
9.8 ppg, 35% shooting, 15% 3pt shooting, 6.5 rpg, 6.4 apg, 2.0 spg, 2.4 turnovers per game, 36 mpg
8.8 ppg, 29.5% shooting, 23% 3pt shooting, 6.3 rpg, 6.8 apg, 1.1 spg, 2.4 turnovers per game, 33.5 mpg
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Old 11-09-17, 03:46 PM
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Jason Kidd through 11 games as a 21 year old rookie (above); Lonzo Ball through 11 games as a 19/20 year old rookie (below):
9.8 ppg, 35% shooting, 15% 3pt shooting, 6.5 rpg, 6.4 apg, 2.0 spg, 2.4 turnovers per game, 36 mpg
8.8 ppg, 29.5% shooting, 23% 3pt shooting, 6.3 rpg, 6.8 apg, 1.1 spg, 2.4 turnovers per game, 33.5 mpg
There are alot more Lonzo Ball's who are out of the league after a year of numbers like that above than players who "get it" and turn into long time NBA starters. We shall see.
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Old 11-09-17, 03:50 PM
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I love that thinks highly paid players should play for the Reds, because it’s not the fans money, but that tune changes when he doesn’t like someone.
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Old 11-09-17, 03:55 PM
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Jason Kidd through 11 games as a 21 year old rookie (above); Lonzo Ball through 11 games as a 19/20 year old rookie (below):
9.8 ppg, 35% shooting, 15% 3pt shooting, 6.5 rpg, 6.4 apg, 2.0 spg, 2.4 turnovers per game, 36 mpg
8.8 ppg, 29.5% shooting, 23% 3pt shooting, 6.3 rpg, 6.8 apg, 1.1 spg, 2.4 turnovers per game, 33.5 mpg
Taco, I can only guess you have some stock in Big Baller Brand?? Do you like the kid or something? He and his family is a train wreck.
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Old 11-09-17, 04:02 PM
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Taco, I can only guess you have some stock in Big Baller Brand?? Do you like the kid or something? He and his family is a train wreck.
This is a post, to you, from 2 days ago:

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I don't like Lonzo, and I dislike LaVar even more, but this is just an awful, uninformed opinion.
No, I'm just capable of putting aside personal preferences and able to look at players objectively. Does he struggle with shooting? Yes. Will he ever be a world class defender? No. Is he still learning how to work within the half court offense? Yes. Is he spectacular at running the break, passing, rebounding? Yes. To the bold, what does that have to do with him as a basketball player?
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Old 11-09-17, 08:29 PM
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https://sports.yahoo.com/everyone-kn...190949125.html

Pretty good article detailing his game.

I think it is evident he will never be a great NBA player. Can't shoot, terrible form, terrible defense, and can only shoot going left and still can't score. He can't even score near the rim.
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Old 11-09-17, 08:57 PM
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I just want Lonzo to be a star only because it would bother 14red so much.
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Old 11-09-17, 09:31 PM
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That would be awesome.

I actually think he seems like a great kid especially considering his crazy father.

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Old 11-09-17, 09:50 PM
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Yeah, and rooting against the kid because of his dad is a big a-hole move. So go Lonzo!
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Old 11-12-17, 03:48 PM
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Lonzo spazzes and goes for 19, 13, 11, 4 and 3 on 7-12 shooting. Lakers were looking strong until they put Clarkson in for Lonzo and fell behind by double digits and couldn't catch up.
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Old 11-14-17, 02:46 PM
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No, I'm just capable of putting aside personal preferences and able to look at players objectively. Does he struggle with shooting? Yes. Will he ever be a world class defender? No. Is he still learning how to work within the half court offense? Yes. Is he spectacular at running the break, passing, rebounding? Yes. To the bold, what does that have to do with him as a basketball player?
Hmmm, can't shoot, can't play defense? Sounds like a guy who should be getting about 10 minutes a game or in the D-League.
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Old 11-14-17, 02:47 PM
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I just want Lonzo to be a star only because it would bother 14red so much.
U just keep doing that EP...
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Old 11-14-17, 02:49 PM
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Hmmm, can't shoot, can't play defense? Sounds like a guy who should be getting about 10 minutes a game or in the D-League.
This guy loves Billy Hamilton, but dislikes a multi-skilled guard who may be a triple double machine because of his daddy.
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Old 11-14-17, 02:49 PM
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Hmmm, wonder if LaVar will sent President Trump a thank you card??? Wonder how this all fits into the "social injustice", "Trump is a racist" ideals???
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Old 11-14-17, 03:13 PM
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I bet it fits into your agenda
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Old 11-14-17, 05:27 PM
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That would be awesome.

I actually think he seems like a great kid especially considering his crazy father.
The kid made this ad, so he at least has a firm grasp on reality......




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Old 11-14-17, 05:28 PM
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I bet it fits into your agenda
Trump did make a nice move there, for a racist.
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Old 11-14-17, 05:38 PM
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The kid made this ad, so he at least has a firm grasp on reality......




He seems pretty level headed for a kid in the spotlight and a wack job father. Best commercial ever btw
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Old 11-15-17, 02:25 PM
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This guy loves Billy Hamilton, but dislikes a multi-skilled guard who may be a triple double machine because of his daddy.
C'mon EP, it triple doubles don't count in Euro leagues.
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Old 11-16-17, 10:11 AM
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How silly do the Lakers look putting Ball out on the floor in NBA games?? Dude is in way over his head.
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Old 11-17-17, 06:18 PM
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ESPN is starting to turn on him. Showing his negative highlights today. That is the kind of pressure that makes grown men fold.
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Old 11-19-17, 01:51 AM
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Hmmm, wonder if LaVar will sent President Trump a thank you card??? Wonder how this all fits into the "social injustice", "Trump is a racist" ideals???
Uh - no.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports...118-story.html

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LaVar Ball, however, is having exactly none of Trump's credit-taking.

"Who?" Ball told ESPN's Arash Markazi when asked about Trump's involvement in the matter. "What was he over there for? Don't tell me nothing. Everybody wants to make it seem like he helped me out."

The elder Ball also tried to minimize the crime committed by his son and his teammates, who were detained by Chinese authorities after they were caught shoplifting from some high-end stores near the team hotel ahead of UCLA's season opener in China.

"As long as my boy's back here, I'm fine," Ball said. "I'm happy with how things were handled. A lot of people like to say a lot of things that they thought happened over there. Like I told him, 'They try to make a big deal out of nothing sometimes.' I'm from L.A. I've seen a lot worse things happen than a guy taking some glasses. My son has built up enough character that one bad decision doesn't define him. Now if you can go back and say when he was 12 years old he was shoplifting and stealing cars and going wild, then that's a different thing.
This^ is the best.

Papa Ball is a clueless fool. He is practically sh1tting out of his face at this point
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Old 11-19-17, 10:19 AM
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News flash- you can't pick your parents. You shouldn't be punished for them.

Lonzo is a kid being held to a pretty high adult standard with the spotlight focused on him. He's also an average NBA player and is likely to get better. Were his father not an attention grubbing azzwipe, he'd be viewed as just a promising young NBA player.
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Old 11-19-17, 10:34 AM
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Lonzo posts a 6 point 6 assist and 6 rebound stat line, confirming he is indeed the devil.
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