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Old 01-12-18, 12:20 PM
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Absolute mess over there. AD and Principal let the head coach go, levy fails, AD resigns, meanwhile enrollment is dropping by the day. From what I hear, administration is not on good terms with voters and the community. It's sad that such a great school community is falling apart because of terrible leadership. Hate to say it, but you can't blame the old HC for all of the problems that WG has......
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Old 01-13-18, 03:05 PM
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Absolute mess over there. AD and Principal let the head coach go, levy fails, AD resigns, meanwhile enrollment is dropping by the day. From what I hear, administration is not on good terms with voters and the community. It's sad that such a great school community is falling apart because of terrible leadership. Hate to say it, but you can't blame the old HC for all of the problems that WG has......
from things I heard, that Craemer was more of a fall guy for what is going on and what has been going on. Its why the one coach left for a different position and why the new one was fired so quickly. Tried to make him the face of the issues when it was the other crap going on.
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Old 01-13-18, 04:09 PM
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So is there an AD in place over there or no?
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Old 01-13-18, 04:29 PM
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from things I heard, that Craemer was more of a fall guy for what is going on and what has been going on. Its why the one coach left for a different position and why the new one was fired so quickly. Tried to make him the face of the issues when it was the other crap going on.
The now Strongsville coach/WG former staff fostered a culture which allowed those kids to act like idiots. Parents say he played favorites and his fellow area coaches told me his staff was more like a "frat party". He was a good coach record-wise though. He was great compared to coaches in other WG sports that are brought back year after year of losing.

Craemer had to take those assistants since he was hired so late. He was warned about those kids by a few people, but never took action. He "hung out" with the wrong staff and teachers and never figured it out. Parents told me "throw in his poor work ethic, practices ending early, and his disinterest in all the WG kids playing their youth football elsewhere" and you can see he just wasn't the guy.

Not sure about all the stuff with the levies and how it interacts with the old coach, that can't be on him. He had a decent year at Strongsville.

It seems like the school is going down the same road as last year though...3 months in and no coach...or AD. One mom told me the superintendent is semi-retired and needs help.
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Old 01-13-18, 08:30 PM
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I feel this is even more interesting with the AD stepping down soon. It sounds like they’ve started the process already, but do you wait to hire an AD then hire a coach? I understand concerns with timing, but it would seem backward to hire to hire coach first...similar to hiring a coach first then a GM in the NFL.


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Old 01-16-18, 07:22 AM
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Let's just say this. If West G is such a dream to teach and coach at, why would a guy who grew up going to West G and has only ever been there for the better part of 3 decades bolt at the first opportunity for a better job?

Cirino knew the kids coming up were trouble. I heard he chewed out the kids before he left as well from a few people in the situation.

I am not sure how you can hire a head football coach on May 1st and expect him to change a culture in 3 months. It doesn't happen. Administration and the previous head coach must not have set a culture if those kids were really acting like buffoons like the previous posts had mentioned. I know Craemer and he is a good guy but it can't be all on him. He inherited a staff and a program that is/was on the downswing. I remember reading about him being hired on May 1st thinking, wow, he only has 3 months. If you know anything about football, you know that 3 months is nothing to install a new system and create your own culture. I'm surprised they won 3 games and were close to winning 3-4 more against playoff teams.......
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Old 01-16-18, 07:24 AM
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I feel this is even more interesting with the AD stepping down soon. It sounds like they’ve started the process already, but do you wait to hire an AD then hire a coach? I understand concerns with timing, but it would seem backward to hire to hire coach first...similar to hiring a coach first then a GM in the NFL.


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It's the same situation as the Browns. But clearly the old AD brought in "his guy" (as he stated when they hired him) and it didn't work out. But that's what happens when you hire a 25 year old AD with no experience only because he is a "West G guy." It's amazing
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