New STVM Head Coach

[clarkgriswold]

Originally Posted by DB 04

Hey! if OHSAA is not going to enforce it's rules...I say do the same thing everyone else is doing!

Well....not everybody. Have you seen Walsh? LOL.

[Broadway Joe]

Originally Posted by Irishfan13

Was in town today and heard from 2 diffent sources that ex-HC Ron Wright was interested in returning to coaching and the STVM job...would be a great catch for the Irish considering his record at Hudson before taking a two season sabbatical

This would be great, considering Coach White was outspoken about the private schools having unfair advantages, and constant complaining of having seperate playoffs.

[clarkgriswold]

Originally Posted by Broadway Joe

This would be great, considering Coach White was outspoken about the private schools having unfair advantages, and constant complaining of having seperate playoffs.

If you can't beat 'em join 'em?

[fbrox]

Wright not coming over, plenty of very qualified SVSM alums in the mix. Yes, that was a hint..

[clarkgriswold]

Wright is a great coach, but he's going to run into the problem of AD's wanting to hire younger coaches who can lead a program for the long term and unfortunately, he's not that guy.

I wonder if Keith Wakefield would be interested in coming back. LOL.

I think an alum would be great with the history of the program.

[Striker300]

Originally Posted by clarkgriswold

Well....not everybody. Have you seen Walsh? LOL.

Hoban's CB number for football is 136, SVSM is 120 and Walsh is 114. Seems they are doing the same thing just not as successful with the talent. Could be coaching is the difference. LOL.

[Cougarfan22]

Originally Posted by Striker300

Hoban's CB number for football is 136, SVSM is 120 and Walsh is 114. Seems they are doing the same thing just not as successful with the talent. Could be coaching is the difference. LOL.

Wow. Now there’s a comment that actually makes sense. I would add strength program that goes hand and hand with coaching. Preach

[clarkgriswold]

Originally Posted by Striker300

Hoban's CB number for football is 136, SVSM is 120 and Walsh is 114. Seems they are doing the same thing just not as successful with the talent. Could be coaching is the difference. LOL.

Walsh has always had a huge geographic reach. They get a lot of kids from southern Cuyahoga County. They also reach into Portage, Geauga, Stark and Medina County. Unfortunately, they don't "draw" a lot of football talent any more.

[SeeYaSometime]

They can't have a coach in the mold of Cistone. That ship sunk twenty years ago. The first "successful" coach following him was young Ryan Wiggins. He drew the SC athletes to the school & Boarman brought a young staff, including his two sons and a couple Copley coaches, that meshed those kids with fresh ideas including the strong defense and open offense.

I think Coaches Murphy and Anthony Boarman would like to remain on staff. For sure Murphy does not want to be head coach. Does Boarman? Is he ready to make the move and step away as the Baseball coach? The defense was better than the offense the last two years. Whoever were the OC would not be a loss, IMO. Will the new coach be able to bring in his own staff?

FWIW, I was told there are thirty applicants.

[Bucksfan1]

Originally Posted by SeeYaSometime

They can't have a coach in the mold of Cistone. That ship sunk twenty years ago. The first "successful" coach following him was young Ryan Wiggins. He drew the SC athletes to the school & Boarman brought a young staff, including his two sons and a couple Copley coaches, that meshed those kids with fresh ideas including the strong defense and open offense.

I think Coaches Murphy and Anthony Boarman would like to remain on staff. For sure Murphy does not want to be head coach. Does Boarman? Is he ready to make the move and step away as the Baseball coach? The defense was better than the offense the last two years. Whoever were the OC would not be a loss, IMO. Will the new coach be able to bring in his own staff?

FWIW, I was told there are thirty applicants.

Whoever gets that job needs to get rid of the OC first thing.

[StarstoShine]

The OC was JEFF Dallas. Applications are being taken until 2/18.

[AjmBaseball1]

Originally Posted by Cougarfan22

Wow. Now there’s a comment that actually makes sense. I would add strength program that goes hand and hand with coaching. Preach

They were outscored by 74 points in those games. That's not coaching. That's a major talent differential.

[clarkgriswold]

Funny, the Irish and Warrior weight roomd were just fine when they were winning state championships. As AJM suggests, the main difference between Hoban and SVSM and Walsh right now is that Hoban is attracting more talent. The new guy has to have the ability to attract those kids.

[StarstoShine]

STVM (10-4) has plenty of talent on both sides of the ball retuning 16 of 22 Starters with a 7-2 JV squad and 9-1 Frosh Squad. No disrespect to WJ but the talent pool gap is wide. Hoban two toughest opponents including playoffs were Iggys and STVM. That won’t change in 18. The new coach is walking into stocked cupboards.

[Redwing]

The best thing the new coach will have going for him is Region 9 has gotten extremely soft, and D3 overall lost 2 more really good teams in TCC and Tri Valley. They won't have to be great to get back to the state semis.

[Icanbanyone]

Originally Posted by StarstoShine

STVM (10-4) has plenty of talent on both sides of the ball retuning 16 of 22 Starters with a 7-2 JV squad and 9-1 Frosh Squad. No disrespect to WJ but the talent pool gap is wide. Hoban two toughest opponents including playoffs were Iggys and STVM. That won’t change in 18. The new coach is walking into stocked cupboards.

Avon, Barberton, and Winton Woods were all better than STVM. They were just a middle of the pack team that played us well in a rivalry game.

[Redwing]

Originally Posted by StarstoShine

STVM (10-4) has plenty of talent on both sides of the ball retuning 16 of 22 Starters with a 7-2 JV squad and 9-1 Frosh Squad. No disrespect to WJ but the talent pool gap is wide. Hoban two toughest opponents including playoffs were Iggys and STVM. That won’t change in 18. The new coach is walking into stocked cupboards.

Are you kidding? Barberton hammered St V, and WW and Avon would've likely done the same. It's great to have 16 starters back, as long as they can play. Other than Keyes, I didn't see any overly impressive talent on the offensive side of the ball, and that bore out as the season went along. Maybe these kids just needed experience, and being a year older will make a huge difference, but it remains to be seen. Also, there's nothing more meaningless in high school football than JV game results.

[clarkgriswold]

Aren't the top D2 teams in the state supposed to beat D3 teams?

[Redwing]

Originally Posted by clarkgriswold

Aren't the top D2 teams in the state supposed to beat D3 teams?

I was responding to his statement that "Hoban two toughest opponents including playoffs were Iggys and STVM."

[Football Fan 1]

Originally Posted by Redwing

Are you kidding? Barberton hammered St V, and WW and Avon would've likely done the same. It's great to have 16 starters back, as long as they can play. Other than Keyes, I didn't see any overly impressive talent on the offensive side of the ball, and that bore out as the season went along. Maybe these kids just needed experience, and being a year older will make a huge difference, but it remains to be seen. Also, there's nothing more meaningless in high school football than JV game results.

Were you at the Barberton - St V game? While there was no question Barberton was the better team that night and deserved to win.....St V did not get hammered by Barberton. It was a 7 point game late in the 3rd quarter - early 4 and a there was huge pass interference call on 4th and 15 that went in Barberton’s favor that was a huge momentum swing.

I think the 16 staters coming back can play. In case you missed it they got great playoff experience and played in the state semi final game.

Glad you are not a college scout. 4 offensive players for St V are getting by recruited by D1 programs right now.

[Cougarfan22]

What’s hilarious are the private messages I get from St V posters telling me how all of the talent is going to St V, how great their freshman and JV teams are in football and that they are returning all of these starters from last year. Also they throw out that this is the last time Hoban will beat St V in basketball for a long time. Also they continue to throw out the recruitment allegations and money that Hoban is throwing at athletes. Not sure why they send this privately?? I’m just a parent who supports Hoban.

I would hope that they get a coach sooner than later because the uncertainty of it will only have more kids flocking to Holy cross BlVD.

[Bobby77]

Originally Posted by StarstoShine

STVM (10-4) has plenty of talent on both sides of the ball retuning 16 of 22 Starters with a 7-2 JV squad and 9-1 Frosh Squad. No disrespect to WJ but the talent pool gap is wide. Hoban two toughest opponents including playoffs were Iggys and STVM. That won’t change in 18. The new coach is walking into stocked cupboards.

Winton Woods would have bean anyone on STVM schedule except Hoban of course. You are living in a green cloud and need to take a breath.

[Irish60]

Originally Posted by Bobby77

Winton Woods would have bean anyone on STVM schedule except Hoban of course. You are living in a green cloud and need to take a breath.

And your point is????

[Redwing]

Originally Posted by Football Fan 1

Were you at the Barberton - St V game? While there was no question Barberton was the better team that night and deserved to win.....St V did not get hammered by Barberton. It was a 7 point game late in the 3rd quarter - early 4 and a there was huge pass interference call on 4th and 15 that went in Barberton’s favor that was a huge momentum swing.

I think the 16 staters coming back can play. In case you missed it they got great playoff experience and played in the state semi final game.

Glad you are not a college scout. 4 offensive players for St V are getting by recruited by D1 programs right now.

I was at the Barberton game, along with 3 other St V games. Even though it was close in the 3rd, it was obvious St V's offense couldn't muster enough and it was just a matter of time before the dam broke. I'm sure they do have kids getting looks, I'm just saying in the games I saw, only Keyes stood out, and as a whole the offense was enemic. If they can get better oline play, maybe some of these kids can shine. I said earlier that I think they can get back to states because Region 9 is soft, which was the biggest reason for last year's run, and D3 as a whole got weaker.

[Football Fan 1]

Originally Posted by Redwing

I was at the Barberton game, along with 3 other St V games. Even though it was close in the 3rd, it was obvious St V's offense couldn't muster enough and it was just a matter of time before the dam broke. I'm sure they do have kids getting looks, I'm just saying in the games I saw, only Keyes stood out, and as a whole the offense was enemic. If they can get better oline play, maybe some of these kids can shine. I said earlier that I think they can get back to states because Region 9 is soft, which was the biggest reason for last year's run, and D3 as a whole got weaker.

D2 must be pretty soft as well then as St V went on the road in week 9 and beat a D2 state semi final team.

[Redwing]

Originally Posted by Football Fan 1

D2 must be pretty soft as well then as St V went on the road in week 9 and beat a D2 state semi final team.

Go back and look at Massillon's region, it was by far the weakest D2 region. They got obliterated by WW for a reason, they weren't in the same class as the best teams in D2.

[Bobby77]

Originally Posted by Irish60

And your point is????

I snagged the wrong post. Been a long day, sorry stars. I am getting old. I can’t keep track of what argument I am in anymore. I think I meant to respond to Football fan argument.

[Bobby77]

I think I am going to exit this one. Nothing good can come from getting in this conversation.

[clarkgriswold]

3 weeks and 152 posts later and I still have no idea of who in the hell might be the next Irish coach. Another quality thread.

[Football330]

My money is on Reardon from McKinley. He has Catholic School experience.