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Old 08-16-17, 02:12 PM
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Walsh looked good against Nordonia in their most recent scrimmage.

Walsh starts out @ Mayfield next Friday.

Mayfield comes off a 4-6 season. All 4 wins were against teams with under .500 records.

Any Mayfield faithful have a scouting report?

On paper, looks like a winnable game for the Warriors.
Mayfield will always have some players.
However I personally don't think this team will be very strong.
Lotta kids I know in the program and I hope they do well but just don't see it this season.
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Old 08-21-17, 07:24 AM
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Walsh scrimmaged Massillon Jackson Friday and lost 21-7 with the starters.

Jackson continuously beat the Walsh secondary with the deep ball. Seems to be the same problem that Walsh faced last year.
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Old 08-21-17, 12:43 PM
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Walsh scrimmaged Massillon Jackson Friday and lost 21-7 with the starters.

Jackson continuously beat the Walsh secondary with the deep ball. Seems to be the same problem that Walsh faced last year.
Jackson has recently been a good spread passing team.

Mayfield has liked to run a spread offense, but they always struggled getting a qb to stretch the field even when they had Monastero he wasn't a great down field threat. Don't know much about the joe's from Mayfield this year but assuming the trend continues they can't take advantage of a possible weakness at Walsh. Should work in Walsh' favor.
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Old 08-21-17, 03:54 PM
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Walsh's run D continued to be stout in the scrimmage. Just have to shore up that secondary.

Look for Walsh to control the game with a heavy run game per usual.

Not having an established QB to throw the ball also forces that.
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Old 08-23-17, 10:11 AM
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http://highschoolsports.cleveland.co...ctations-high/

Walsh is predicted to finish last in the NCL Blue division.
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Old 08-25-17, 10:59 PM
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So unfortunately Walsh looks like they could struggle this year. I don't want to be too hard, it can be hard to tell after one game.

But I would be surprised if Walsh had 5 first downs in their game against Mayfield.

They struggled to move the ball at all. Their defense played well, their offense just gave them no chance. Hopefully they can rebound and keep up a positive year.
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Old 08-25-17, 11:15 PM
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Mayfield 10, Walsh Jesuit 0 Final

It's always tough to tell after one game. You really can't be sure how good each team is and then some teams improve dramatically as the season progresses.
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Old 08-26-17, 07:41 AM
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Yikes. Going to be a longgggg gear.
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Old 08-28-17, 12:08 PM
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All good points above. Walsh has improved the facilities and that may hopefully attract new bodies from surrounding areas. Yes Walsh has "maybe" better academics then the surrounding schools and "maybe" that has caused some of the challenging performances of the sports teams. YET women sports have not suffered at Walsh, what does this tell you? The head coaches are fine in the men sports, what has hurt them is the resurgence in the programs of other schools that typically fed the Warrior men's programs. You cant always go deep in the playoffs but somehow need to at least have winning records and compete......Last two years have been unfortunate for Walsh football and this will likely make three.
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Old 08-28-17, 02:24 PM
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All good points above. Walsh has improved the facilities and that may hopefully attract new bodies from surrounding areas. Yes Walsh has "maybe" better academics then the surrounding schools and "maybe" that has caused some of the challenging performances of the sports teams. YET women sports have not suffered at Walsh, what does this tell you? The head coaches are fine in the men sports, what has hurt them is the resurgence in the programs of other schools that typically fed the Warrior men's programs. You cant always go deep in the playoffs but somehow need to at least have winning records and compete......Last two years have been unfortunate for Walsh football and this will likely make three.
I understand your points.

But at what point do you say enough is enough? Football is KING in Ohio, especially Northeast Ohio. Do you really want your school to be the laughing stock of the big 3 private schools in Summit County? Because that is where it is headed when you have 4 wins in two years and staring down 0-2 wins this year.

Unacceptable at a school with the reputation of Walsh.
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Old 08-28-17, 03:20 PM
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I understand your points.

But at what point do you say enough is enough? Football is KING in Ohio, especially Northeast Ohio. Do you really want your school to be the laughing stock of the big 3 private schools in Summit County? Because that is where it is headed when you have 4 wins in two years and staring down 0-2 wins this year.

Unacceptable at a school with the reputation of Walsh.
Maybe they really are serious about this balance of academics and athletics after all.
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Old 08-28-17, 03:43 PM
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Maybe they really are serious about this balance of academics and athletics after all.
Look at the start of the football demise and the changes the school was making.

Coincidence? I'll let the roster, W/L record, and reputation answer that.

But hey, the school obviously doesn't care. Rardin got out when he saw the writing on the wall.
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Old 08-28-17, 04:21 PM
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Look at the start of the football demise and the changes the school was making.

Coincidence? I'll let the roster, W/L record, and reputation answer that.

But hey, the school obviously doesn't care. Rardin got out when he saw the writing on the wall.
But should they care? I'm not being facetious. Has their enrollment slipped during the time period they've had a bad football team? So they don't get all of the superstar athletes. Maybe they are replacing them with national merit scholars or theater stars or excellent debaters.

Is it possible for the football team participants to get out of football most of the same lessons that a good team gets out of football? Should a school care other than that? One way to look at it is that football (sports) is simply part of a child's educational experience. That's one reason why it bothers me when schools form all-star teams (St. V basketball, Hoban football, Walsh girls soccer). It limits the sports side of the average child's education.
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Old 08-28-17, 04:29 PM
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But should they care? I'm not being facetious. Has their enrollment slipped during the time period they've had a bad football team? So they don't get all of the superstar athletes. Maybe they are replacing them with national merit scholars or theater stars or excellent debaters.

Is it possible for the football team participants to get out of football most of the same lessons that a good team gets out of football? Should a school care other than that? One way to look at it is that football (sports) is simply part of a child's educational experience. That's one reason why it bothers me when schools form all-star teams (St. V basketball, Hoban football, Walsh girls soccer). It limits the sports side of the average child's education.
I'm sure the back to back rings helps ease the pain.
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Old 08-28-17, 04:49 PM
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I'm sure the back to back rings helps ease the pain.
As a rising junior, I can say it really hasn't made any difference to my experience at Hoban.
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Old 08-28-17, 05:05 PM
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As a rising junior, I can say it really hasn't made any difference to my experience at Hoban.
Many would trade for that experience.
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Old 08-28-17, 06:19 PM
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But should they care? I'm not being facetious. Has their enrollment slipped during the time period they've had a bad football team? So they don't get all of the superstar athletes. Maybe they are replacing them with national merit scholars or theater stars or excellent debaters.

Is it possible for the football team participants to get out of football most of the same lessons that a good team gets out of football? Should a school care other than that? One way to look at it is that football (sports) is simply part of a child's educational experience. That's one reason why it bothers me when schools form all-star teams (St. V basketball, Hoban football, Walsh girls soccer). It limits the sports side of the average child's education.
At the end of the day it comes down to $ and enrollment. No, numbers are not down.

But that is besides the point. Why can't you have everything you mentioned AND a great football program. Several schools do it.

Nobody is saying illegaly form an all star team. The WJ faithful just wants competitive football and playoff games.

Walsh is slowly turning into the high school version of Notre Dame football. Great tradition, currently below average, slowly slipping into the abyss.
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Old 08-28-17, 06:31 PM
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NDCL is doing quite well in football these days.

It is Walsh that is slipping into the abyss to use your own word. Watching DIV NDCL beat DII Walsh like a drum last year was fun to watch.
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Old 08-28-17, 06:42 PM
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It is Walsh that is slipping into the abyss to use your own word. Watching DIV NDCL beat DII Walsh like a drum last year was fun to watch.
NDCL is doing quite well for themselves in most aspects! Keep it up. Makes the NCL stronger.
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Old 08-28-17, 06:58 PM
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Week 1 @ Mayfield win
Week 2 Saint Vincent Saint Mary loss
Week 3 Columbus Bishop Watterson loss
Week 4 @ Saint Francis (NY) loss
Week 5 @ Massilon Perry loss
Week 6 @ Padua win-
Week 7 NDCL loss
Week 8 @ Hoban loss
Week 9 Benedictine loss
Week 10 @ Mentor Lake Catholic win
Week 1 prediction wrong.
After seeing Padua put up 47 on woodridge. Do you still think the warriors knock of the bruins?

I'm going with this is a 1-9 / 0-10 warrior team.
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Old 08-30-17, 07:42 AM
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Week 1 prediction wrong.
After seeing Padua put up 47 on woodridge. Do you still think the warriors knock of the bruins?

I'm going with this is a 1-9 / 0-10 warrior team.
Going to be very interesting to see what changes occur if this ends up becoming fact.

The issue isn't coaching. The issue is talent. You can only coach up average talent so far.
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Old 08-30-17, 09:05 AM
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Laughing stock is tough pill . BTW Tom LOMBARDO was a long shot possibility two years ago for the warriors but was available. If they end up with a one or two game win year it may be evaluation time
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Old 08-30-17, 09:20 AM
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Walsh is still the best of the three Summit country Catholics . When you look at a big picture it is obvious. I may draw criticism but at the end of the day a things considered Walsh Jesuit is at the top
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Old 08-30-17, 09:28 AM
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Walsh is still the best of the three Summit country Catholics . When you look at a big picture it is obvious. I may draw criticism but at the end of the day a things considered Walsh Jesuit is at the top
Academics, sure.

Athletics, not even close.

Women's Soccer, Softball, and Swimming all won states in 2016.

No team in another sport has won a SC since 2008.
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Old 08-30-17, 10:54 AM
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Walsh is still the best of the three Summit country Catholics . When you look at a big picture it is obvious. I may draw criticism but at the end of the day a things considered Walsh Jesuit is at the top
Walsh is still a great school(likely always will be). But Walsh is also this:

"Walsh is still the best of the three Summit county Catholics". Typical!
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Old 08-30-17, 11:34 AM
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Academics, sure.

Athletics, not even close.

Women's Soccer, Softball, and Swimming all won states in 2016.

No team in another sport has won a SC since 2008.
Women's swimming didn't win states in 2016.
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Old 08-30-17, 11:52 AM
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Walsh is still the best of the three Summit country Catholics . When you look at a big picture it is obvious. I may draw criticism but at the end of the day a things considered Walsh Jesuit is at the top
This is really not true at all, so I don't know why this is brought up by Walsh supporters on a regular basis. When you look at the last five OGT performance index scores thus far reported which is a test all schools in Ohio take, actually Elms is tops and St. Vincent-St. Mary has consistently scored higher than Walsh. Walsh is slightyly ahead of Hoban. Subjective opinions don't equal reality.

Here are the scores:

Elms:
2010: 113.0
2011: 112.4
2012: 110.0
2013: 113.2
2014: 111.9
Average Score: 112.1

St. V:
2010: 109.9
2011: 112.1
2012: 111.4
2013: 111.5
2014: 110.0
Average Score: 111.0

Walsh:
2010: 107.5
2011: 109.9
2012: 110.0
2013: 110.2
2014: 110.7
Average Score: 109.7

Hoban:
2010: 107.2
2011: 108.7
2012: 107.9
2013: 109.7
2014: 109.9
Average Score: 108.7

All these schools are excellent and score well but stating Walsh is the clear tops in academics is pure nonsense. I would send any daughters to Elms in a second.
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Old 08-30-17, 11:56 AM
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Women's swimming didn't win states in 2016.
Just going off their website.

https://www.walshjesuit.org/page/athletics
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Old 08-30-17, 12:02 PM
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Just going off their website.

https://www.walshjesuit.org/page/athletics
That says "(Medley Relay)". That is one event out of many. Walsh was 4th in the team score standings and wasn't really close score wise to the three teams ahead of them. Why Walsh put a single event champion on with team championships, I have no idea.

1. Upper Arlington 239
2. Mason 229
3. Cincinnati St Ursula Academy 203.5
4. Cuyahoga Falls Walsh Jesuit 129
5. Springboro 125
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From the web site it looks as the Women's medley relay won the title, not the team as a whole.

Long and storied tradition at Walsh in sports, both men's and women's.
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