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Old 10-16-17, 06:49 PM
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You can't answer the question. That says everything. That and your obsession with the word idiot. That's what people say when they can't defend their position.
You are the official “fake news” of Yappi.

You would deny something even if I had proof lol!
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Old 10-16-17, 07:43 PM
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You are the official “fake news” of Yappi.

You would deny something even if I had proof lol!
You have no proof or you would have posted it. I have asked you for 2 days to clarify or answer your allegation of schools paying athletes and giving special favors in the classroom. You said it, So back it up with facts or shut your pie hole.

I believe you are plagiarizing the "fake news" label that was given to you by me months ago. No surprise there either.
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Old 10-16-17, 07:52 PM
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You have no proof or you would have posted it. I have asked you for 2 days to clarify or answer your allegation of schools paying athletes and giving special favors in the classroom. You said it, So back it up with facts or shut your pie hole.

I believe you are plagiarizing the "fake news" label that was given to you by me months ago. No surprise there either.
-That was started by Trump.

-I’ve proven you wrong about your “diversity” post.

-You’re just too easy to rile up.

It’s simple..you’re just an idiot.
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Old 10-17-17, 06:04 AM
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-That was started by Trump.

-I’ve proven you wrong about your “diversity” post.

-You’re just too easy to rile up.

It’s simple..you’re just an idiot.
What was wrong about the diversity post? You posted a picture of a new program claiming to want diversity. Ok that's great and I acknowledged that. But the problem is still there and not improving. All you have to do is look on the field, court and diamond as I said. It's a tough issue for Walsh due to their location and demographics. And the fact that many public schools around them have improved dramatically in the athletic programs while offering a great education, Woodridge, Stow & Hudson as have been mentioned before.

You haven't answered anything except that you can spell idiot. Calling someone an idiot does not make a point. It may make you feel better but it only shows your inability to express yourself.
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Old 10-17-17, 07:24 AM
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Alright...

Let's get back on track now fellas.
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Old 10-17-17, 09:10 AM
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Alright...

Let's get back on track now fellas.
Good luck on that AJM.
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Old 10-17-17, 09:40 AM
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Good luck on that AJM.
Like herding sheep.
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Old 10-17-17, 09:48 AM
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Like herding sheep.
When the sheep are off their meds and suffering from OCD and paranoia...
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Old 10-17-17, 09:51 AM
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Like herding sheep.
Only if those sheep are bat $##t crazy...
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Old 10-17-17, 10:16 AM
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I can't decide if I am more surprised that this thread has 10 pages worth of content or the fact Walsh isn't any better than it was last year.

Oh well. It almost feels like they need to gut it all but I am not sure they care enough to do so.
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Old 10-17-17, 10:29 AM
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It seems odd that the school would make the commitment to the improvement of the facilities yet not be concerned with the quality of the product. I think some changes are probably forthcoming, after the season.
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Old 10-17-17, 11:15 AM
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It seems odd that the school would make the commitment to the improvement of the facilities yet not be concerned with the quality of the product. I think some changes are probably forthcoming, after the season.
I wonder if the school initiated the change or the donors came forward and said "here you go, do something please."

But I agree. What changes though? AD dismissed? Barb Salata is Karl Ertles right hand lady. He hand picked her for the AD position. I find it hard to believe he will tell her to walk.

Does a coach change do anything to help bring talent in? Unless you are bringing in a Rotsky type coach, I don't see it.
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Old 10-17-17, 01:43 PM
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I wonder if the school initiated the change or the donors came forward and said "here you go, do something please."

But I agree. What changes though? AD dismissed? Barb Salata is Karl Ertles right hand lady. He hand picked her for the AD position. I find it hard to believe he will tell her to walk.

Does a coach change do anything to help bring talent in? Unless you are bringing in a Rotsky type coach, I don't see it.
Oh God no, you used the "R" word.

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Old 10-17-17, 01:56 PM
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Oh God no, you used the "R" word.
Already received multiple DM's regarding the R word.

Just to clarify, I am not asking for Walsh to go after Rotsky - they won't fork over the cash he demands. I am advocating for someone who will hit the pavement and dare I say, recruit what Walsh has to offer.

*This is IF Walsh decides to make a change*

I would be fine with Scott and the staff staying as long as change were to happen elsewhere.
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Old 10-17-17, 02:17 PM
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They might want to lure the coach across the street back. It looks like he is doing really good things this year.
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Old 10-17-17, 02:23 PM
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They might want to lure the coach across the street back. It looks like he is doing really good things this year.
I think that ship has sailed. Bridge has burned. Could be wrong though.

One thing is for sure - Dan would not be okay with the losing going on if he was in charge. He took his lumps last year but it looks like he is getting his kids and they are buying in.

CVCA has always been open to diversity. That sure does help.
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Old 10-17-17, 04:56 PM
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CVCA has always been open to diversity. That sure does help.
Brock Jones easily could have gone to CVCA, and it actually would have been more in line with his family's faith. Someone or something got him to the other side of the street. He didn't graduate so very long ago. I'm sure there are other recent examples, even with the program in a funk. Is there a common thread ?
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Old 10-17-17, 06:25 PM
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I feel your pain, Ajm.

Best of luck to the Warriors the rest of the way.
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Old 10-17-17, 07:03 PM
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Brock Jones easily could have gone to CVCA, and it actually would have been more in line with his family's faith. Someone or something got him to the other side of the street. He didn't graduate so very long ago. I'm sure there are other recent examples, even with the program in a funk. Is there a common thread ?
Brock Jones was at CVCA for Jr High. He had a kid named Utley that was in front of him there at RB.
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Old 10-17-17, 07:42 PM
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It seems odd that the school would make the commitment to the improvement of the facilities yet not be concerned with the quality of the product. I think some changes are probably forthcoming, after the season.
You would hope. It’s sad to see Walsh go down the tubes like that. They just beat STVM and Hoban in 2014..
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Old 10-17-17, 11:38 PM
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Brock Jones easily could have gone to CVCA, and it actually would have been more in line with his family's faith. Someone or something got him to the other side of the street. He didn't graduate so very long ago. I'm sure there are other recent examples, even with the program in a funk. Is there a common thread ?
His older brother, Chase, attended Walsh. Might help explain why.
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Old 10-17-17, 11:41 PM
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I feel your pain, Ajm.

Best of luck to the Warriors the rest of the way.
Thanks LCHS. Hopefully they right the ship soon.

Good luck against Padua this week.
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Old 10-18-17, 05:16 AM
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I think that ship has sailed. Bridge has burned. Could be wrong though.

One thing is for sure - Dan would not be okay with the losing going on if he was in charge. He took his lumps last year but it looks like he is getting his kids and they are buying in.

CVCA has always been open to diversity. That sure does help.
Didn’t some kids from Walsh transfer to CVCA?
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Old 10-18-17, 08:17 AM
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Didn’t some kids from Walsh transfer to CVCA?
No one transferred to CVCA, not even after the wrestling fiasco. The majority of CVCA'S current team has been there since 7th grade.
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Old 10-18-17, 08:19 AM
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I can't imagine Vass coming to Walsh without a sweet deal like the one Boarman had when he came back to SVSM, allowing him to continue his STRS employment while he coaches at a private. I can't see APS being down for him being their primary sports administrator while coaching at Walsh. Great coach, good fit, too many hurdles.

Larlham is not coming back across Wyoga Lake Road. That bridge is beyond burned.

Walsh has had three coaches in its entire existence. They won't do anything hastily. The process that resulted in Beigie getting hired was deliberate and detailed and they went with the guy that was dedicated to the school that they thought could follow in the footsteps of Ricco and Rardin and be there 20 to 30 years. This isn't a place like Massillon where the coach gets canned every time the boosters and fans get riled up.

This appears to be a case of the "Jimmies and the Joes" rather than bad coaching. I don't hear complaints about a lack of discipline, bad play calling or poor technique. It could plausibly be a situation where Beigie isn't the type of guy kids want to play for and that comes back to him, but it seems to me that it goes deeper to the perception of the school outside of its present established community and that's a PR problem well beyond the fault of the head football coach.
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Old 10-18-17, 09:28 AM
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I can't imagine Vass coming to Walsh without a sweet deal like the one Boarman had when he came back to SVSM, allowing him to continue his STRS employment while he coaches at a private. I can't see APS being down for him being their primary sports administrator while coaching at Walsh. Great coach, good fit, too many hurdles.

Larlham is not coming back across Wyoga Lake Road. That bridge is beyond burned.

Walsh has had three coaches in its entire existence. They won't do anything hastily. The process that resulted in Beigie getting hired was deliberate and detailed and they went with the guy that was dedicated to the school that they thought could follow in the footsteps of Ricco and Rardin and be there 20 to 30 years. This isn't a place like Massillon where the coach gets canned every time the boosters and fans get riled up.

This appears to be a case of the "Jimmies and the Joes" rather than bad coaching. I don't hear complaints about a lack of discipline, bad play calling or poor technique. It could plausibly be a situation where Beigie isn't the type of guy kids want to play for and that comes back to him, but it seems to me that it goes deeper to the perception of the school outside of its present established community and that's a PR problem well beyond the fault of the head football coach.
Long story short - Scott's hands are tied by the administration. He is playing checkers while every other surrounding school is playing chess. He has no help.
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Old 10-18-17, 01:25 PM
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If they could get Vassalotti at Walsh, he could turn things around pretty quickly.
Doubtful. It would be awesome if it happened.
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Old 10-18-17, 03:39 PM
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don't forget about Mark Nori at Stow. I heard he kicked the tires 2 years ago when it was open.

Yes he has a great thing going at Stow but he has Walsh ties and getting through D2 playoffs long term likely a lot easier than banging heads with IGY and EDS every year which is a huge if not impossible task.
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Old 10-18-17, 03:48 PM
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It seems unlikely that anyone vested in the Ohio STRS would leave a public school job for anything less than a salary that would at least put them in the same spot financially that they would be by 55 or 60. I'm sure St Edward paid Lombardo well.

Are the Walsh alumni as committed as the Lowes et al at Ed's ?
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Old 10-18-17, 08:22 PM
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Not likely

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don't forget about Mark Nori at Stow. I heard he kicked the tires 2 years ago when it was open.

Yes he has a great thing going at Stow but he has Walsh ties and getting through D2 playoffs long term likely a lot easier than banging heads with IGY and EDS every year which is a huge if not impossible task.
Doesn't have that many years in STRS, he played and coached for the 49ers before coming back to the Stow area. Was a great addition for the one year he was at Walsh. The Admin will not pay above the regular scale for football, so the alum's money will not be used just to hire a coach.

That is why they did not hire Vasellotti $$$$$, even though he was probably the person they wanted at first (?). If he gets all his years in in the Akron system he could be available at some point. They wanted a former HC or a Walsh alum.
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