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Old 09-10-17, 12:23 PM
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Summit country day enrollment figures

At the risk of opening up a can of worms, I have heard from 3 or 4 sources (some even reliable) that the enrollment figures submitted by SCD last winter/spring were incorrect (low) at that the OHSAA has called them on it. I am not suggesting that SCD did anything intentional, but two questions.

Has anyone else heard anything about this? If this is true, I would assume that SCD plays in the DII tournament this year? (But with the OHSAA who knows what they do).
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Old 09-10-17, 12:30 PM
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No idea if that is true. No idea if ohsaa would do anything.

But everyone else in d3 would be estatic if it was true and they moved.them up. Outside of scd, the other top teams are all pretty even it seems.
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Old 09-10-17, 08:39 PM
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Would definitely change things. If I remember correctly they were only about 4 boys away from D2 enrollment.
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Old 09-11-17, 10:06 AM
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Is this going to lead to a public vs private debate before the tournament starts this year?
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Old 09-11-17, 01:48 PM
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This is a simple reporting matter, easily identified easily solved. No need to boil the ocean. My guess is we will take this simple issue and make it complex.


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Old 09-11-17, 03:28 PM
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At the risk of opening up a can of worms, I have heard from 3 or 4 sources (some even reliable) that the enrollment figures submitted by SCD last winter/spring were incorrect (low) at that the OHSAA has called them on it. I am not suggesting that SCD did anything intentional, but two questions.

Has anyone else heard anything about this? If this is true, I would assume that SCD plays in the DII tournament this year? (But with the OHSAA who knows what they do).
No dog in this fight or anything, but if I were in charge of the OHSAA and found that a school did this deliberately they wouldn't compete in any division. They would stay home.

If it's an accident or error, different story.

Good luck proving it was intentional though.
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Old 09-11-17, 08:15 PM
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No dog in this fight or anything, but if I were in charge of the OHSAA and found that a school did this deliberately they wouldn't compete in any division. They would stay home.

If it's an accident or error, different story.

Good luck proving it was intentional though.
If the mistake was deliberate then the school should be punished.

If it was an honest error, especially since this is the first year of competitive balance, then just correct it now and adjust accordingly.
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Old 09-11-17, 08:34 PM
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Don't they only have about 100 kids per class (boys and girls)? I would think any unintentional error would be a relatively small number.
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Old 09-11-17, 08:46 PM
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Don't they only have about 100 kids per class (boys and girls)? I would think any unintentional error would be a relatively small number.
Yes but the multiplier in soccer is 6 I think. So scd is sitting at 198 it looks like. The cutoff for d3 is 199. So if they have just 1 additional kid that receives the multiplier that in theory could put them over the cutoff in d3.

Is this true? Would ohsaa do anything about it now? Those are the real question.
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Old 09-11-17, 08:50 PM
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Yes but the multiplier in soccer is 6 I think. So scd is sitting at 198 it looks like. The cutoff for d3 is 199. So if they have just 1 additional kid that receives the multiplier that in theory could put them over the cutoff in d3.



Is this true? Would ohsaa do anything about it now? Those are the real question.


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Old 09-11-17, 08:56 PM
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Agree. But this is ohsaa.
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Old 09-12-17, 10:53 AM
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again, proving these kinds of things is impossible

there's been talk in football circles for years of enrollment manipulation

do i believe it? no
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Old 09-21-17, 07:48 AM
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Summit Country Day should be in the GCL Coed in all sports. At least they'd have some competition.
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Old 09-21-17, 10:48 PM
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Summit Country Day should be in the GCL Coed in all sports. At least they'd have some competition.
They aren't a Catholic school though are they?
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Old 09-22-17, 08:32 AM
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They aren't a Catholic school though are they?
Yes.
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Old 09-22-17, 09:14 AM
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They aren't a Catholic school though are they?
Yes, have a very nice Chapel on campus by the way. Not sure of the reasons they stay in the league they are in. Maybe they've tried to get in the GCL but were denied for some reason or maybe they like beating up little schools.
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Old 09-22-17, 09:24 AM
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Would they be a good fit in other sports for the GCL?
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Old 09-22-17, 09:36 AM
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Here's what I'm familiar with:

Football: Probably in the bottom half but by no means the worse.
Womans Soccer: Above average. From my experience McNick usually beats them as would Alter about on par with Carroll so top half of the league.
Boys Soccer: Probably would compete for title most years
Mens Basketball: Probably would compete for title most years.

I don't know if they compete in VB, track etc.


Thats about it from me.
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Old 09-22-17, 12:06 PM
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I think the girls would likely challenge for the league this year. After looking at the roster and doing some quick searches, it looks like they have 4 girls going to division 1 colleges. I know it doesn't mean a lot, but that's a pretty decent indicator of how competitive a high school team will be.
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