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Old 06-11-18, 07:25 AM
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A trade war with our closest ally Canada because President Snowflake was disrespected. Brilliant especially given the vile disrespect he is giving our closest allies. Vlad spiking the ball.

LOTR-- I look forward to your deep explanation on how a trade war with Canada is good idea and protects our national security.

I do not believe trump understands how global economics work . He is a narcissist and easy mark.
So you support a 270% tariffs on U.S dairy products?

“Canada, when it comes to dairy, acts like China when it comes to trade,” Schumer told hard-pressed farmers in upstate New York. “They’re unfair. They put up barriers. They treat us bad.”

Donald Trump...lol.
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Old 06-11-18, 07:48 AM
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Russia's state TV:
Dean of Moscow state University: "The EU is coming apart at the seams —thanks to American God & voters, Trump is smashing it with a sledgehammer. That's why Putin says he isn't trying to weaken the EU. Why would he bother? Trump is doing all the work for him."
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Old 06-11-18, 08:41 AM
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Russia's state TV:
Dean of Moscow state University: "The EU is coming apart at the seams —thanks to American God & voters, Trump is smashing it with a sledgehammer. That's why Putin says he isn't trying to weaken the EU. Why would he bother? Trump is doing all the work for him."
The EU has been coming apart for years and it is their own doing. Nothing to do with Trump. Amusing that you are now resorting to Russian state TV as a source now.
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Old 06-11-18, 09:02 AM
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Russia's state TV:
Dean of Moscow state University: "The EU is coming apart at the seams —thanks to American God & voters, Trump is smashing it with a sledgehammer. That's why Putin says he isn't trying to weaken the EU. Why would he bother? Trump is doing all the work for him."
Couldn't have anything to do with all those competing agendas and priorities.

As far as coming apart at the seams who besides the British are exiting?
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Old 06-11-18, 09:18 AM
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As far as coming apart at the seams who besides the British are exiting?
I think the Italians want to leave, but they are going to have a harder time doing so since they adopted the Euro and the Brits did not.
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Old 06-11-18, 09:22 AM
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If Americans truly understood the barriers we face in doing business in Canada IN SPITE OF NAFTA they would be up in arms. Trump is pushing towards reciprocal trade agreements across the world and it's about damn time. Why any thinking person would be against this is beyond me.
You made your mistake when you mentioned "thinking person". There appear to be none on the other side of the aisle.
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Old 06-11-18, 09:44 AM
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Russia's state TV:
Dean of Moscow state University: "The EU is coming apart at the seams —thanks to American God & voters, Trump is smashing it with a sledgehammer. That's why Putin says he isn't trying to weaken the EU. Why would he bother? Trump is doing all the work for him."
I guess you missed Brexit which was before Trump...but yeah, the EU is just now starting to fall apart...
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Old 06-11-18, 09:45 AM
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I think the Italians want to leave, but they are going to have a harder time doing so since they adopted the Euro and the Brits did not.
The Germans have been pushing for an exit as well, when I was in Italy 5 years ago the regular Italians I talked to all wanted out, wanted to be their "own country" again.
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Old 06-11-18, 09:47 AM
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Same problem with them. The Euro was a mistake for a lot of these countries.
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Old 06-11-18, 09:55 AM
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The problem is how many people are just like Happy and lap this stuff up?
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Old 06-11-18, 09:57 AM
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I guess you missed Brexit which was before Trump...but yeah, the EU is just now starting to fall apart...
But they said so on Russian state TV. It must be true.
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Old 06-11-18, 11:01 AM
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So you support a 270% tariffs on U.S dairy products?

“Canada, when it comes to dairy, acts like China when it comes to trade,” Schumer told hard-pressed farmers in upstate New York. “They’re unfair. They put up barriers. They treat us bad.”

Donald Trump...lol.
We run a $13b trade surplus with Canada. They have a supply-side policy on dairy (just like we subsidize many of our farmers/crops) Seems silly to "villianize" Canada.
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Old 06-11-18, 11:08 AM
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We run a $13b trade surplus with Canada. They have a supply-side policy on dairy (just like we subsidize many of our farmers/crops) Seems silly to "villianize" Canada.
Our surplus with Canada has nothing to with the fact that Canadian dairy tariffs are very high.

The dairy farmers in Canada are not struggling. They make well above the average salary of most Canadian workers.

We impose tariffs on products like steel and aluminum and you "villianize" the US, but Canada seems to be allowed to charge whatever they want, in your world. Even though they've opened up a lot of their dairy trade to Pacific Rim nations and the EU.

Do you support NAFTA? You seem to be critical of everything Trump has done with that to.
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Old 06-11-18, 11:14 AM
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Happy sure worries about every country and their citizens more than he does about America and Americans.
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Old 06-11-18, 12:17 PM
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Does Canada really charge 270% on milk?

On some dairy imports, yes. Canada essentially allows two avenues for dairy imports -- those within quota, and surplus stuff. It’s the latter where tariffs spike, because Canada’s whole system is built to avoid a surplus -- hence its name, “supply management.”

Take milk, for instance. Within quota, the tariff is 7.5 percent. Over-quota milk faces a 241 percent tariff. Other over-quota rates include blended dairy powder at 270 percent. Duties rise to as high as 314 percent for other products, according to data from the World Trade Organization. Canadian officials argue that all countries subsidize dairy, including the U.S. -- Canada essentially does so indirectly by closing its borders and capping production. If you’ve got a slice of the quota, though, the tariffs don’t apply. And Canada has given up slices of its market in trade talks. (Including in the Trans Pacific Partnership trade deal that Trump quit.)

So is Trump right on tariffs?

Yes and no. Yes, Canada has high milk tariffs beyond the allowed quotas, with an average duty of 218.5 percent on dairy. But on most other products, the country is roughly in line, with a trade-weighted average of 3.1 percent overall, WTO data show. “Trump’s use of 270% to besmirch Canada’s overall trade policies is disingenuous to be polite about it,” Derek Holt, an economist at Scotiabank, said in a research note. “Better judgment would question whether an entire trading relationship needs to be jeopardized in order to appeal to dairy farmers in Wisconsin.”

http://https://www.bloomberg.com/new...ump-off-at-g-7
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Old 06-11-18, 01:57 PM
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Sounds like DiNiro had some juicy red meat for the Scream at the Sky Posse last night.
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Old 06-11-18, 02:00 PM
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Also, Jack Dorsey apologizing to Twitter for eating a Chik-Fil-A sandwich.

Pretty good 24 hours, TBH.
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Old 06-11-18, 02:09 PM
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Does Canada really charge 270% on milk?

On some dairy imports, yes. Canada essentially allows two avenues for dairy imports -- those within quota, and surplus stuff. It’s the latter where tariffs spike, because Canada’s whole system is built to avoid a surplus -- hence its name, “supply management.”

Take milk, for instance. Within quota, the tariff is 7.5 percent. Over-quota milk faces a 241 percent tariff. Other over-quota rates include blended dairy powder at 270 percent. Duties rise to as high as 314 percent for other products, according to data from the World Trade Organization. Canadian officials argue that all countries subsidize dairy, including the U.S. -- Canada essentially does so indirectly by closing its borders and capping production. If you’ve got a slice of the quota, though, the tariffs don’t apply. And Canada has given up slices of its market in trade talks. (Including in the Trans Pacific Partnership trade deal that Trump quit.)

So is Trump right on tariffs?

Yes and no. Yes, Canada has high milk tariffs beyond the allowed quotas, with an average duty of 218.5 percent on dairy. But on most other products, the country is roughly in line, with a trade-weighted average of 3.1 percent overall, WTO data show. “Trump’s use of 270% to besmirch Canada’s overall trade policies is disingenuous to be polite about it,” Derek Holt, an economist at Scotiabank, said in a research note. “Better judgment would question whether an entire trading relationship needs to be jeopardized in order to appeal to dairy farmers in Wisconsin.”

http://https://www.bloomberg.com/new...ump-off-at-g-7
So it is ok for Canada to protect its dairy industry but not for the US to protect its steel industry?
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Old 06-11-18, 02:11 PM
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We run a $13b trade surplus with Canada. They have a supply-side policy on dairy (just like we subsidize many of our farmers/crops) Seems silly to "villianize" Canada.
What farm subsidies?
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Old 06-11-18, 02:29 PM
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Trump villainizes all our allies, all the time, while heaping praise on Putin, Xi and dictators. Even Kim Jong.

Putin is especially disgusting. Interfered with our election. Constant cyber attacks. His own intel warns of further attacks esp. in midterms. Has not backed off Crimea, Syria. Then attacks a British citizen on British soil. Is condemned internationally. And what does our POTUS do? Stumps for him at the G7 while attacking our alliances. Like a puppet.

Why is that? Nah nothing to see there, lol. I actually believe, not joking, Trump and significant % of supporters have become traitors. For real. Forget punish, actually welcome Russian interference - if it supports the party. Putin's approval rating among Republicans is up 20%. Shameful what GOP has become. Together with constant lies and reality show behavior, what a pathetic stain on American history.

But but but...Obama (and Clinton) tried to make healthcare available to millions who were not allowed to get insurance or couldn't afford. How evil. Meanwhile we're increasing the deficit by the hundreds of billions.
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Old 06-11-18, 02:35 PM
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We run a $13b trade surplus with Canada. They have a supply-side policy on dairy (just like we subsidize many of our farmers/crops) Seems silly to "villianize" Canada.
Where did you get that 13b number? Think you need to research the figure. We have a plus but not near your number you are trying to pas out.
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Old 06-11-18, 03:28 PM
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Also, Jack Dorsey apologizing to Twitter for eating a Chik-Fil-A sandwich.

Pretty good 24 hours, TBH.
I saw that earlier and it makes me want to stop at Chick-fil-a on the way home and get something for the whole family.

Twitter would have survived if he would have just ignored the criticism.
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Old 06-11-18, 04:23 PM
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Russia's state TV:
Dean of Moscow state University: "The EU is coming apart at the seams —thanks to American God & voters, Trump is smashing it with a sledgehammer. That's why Putin says he isn't trying to weaken the EU. Why would he bother? Trump is doing all the work for him."
The EU has been struggling with a host of problems long before Trump showed up on the world stage.

I suspect the biggest impact Trump will have on Europeans is to show them that it's okay to replace their bloated & corrupt leadership. I mean a solid majority of Europeans are not comfortable with the huge Muslim influx being orchestrated by their governmental elite. Wouldn't it be funny if France, Italy & Germany go the way of Hungary & Poland and elect nationalist, right wing governments unfriendly to culture changing immigration. Heck, it already happened in Italy.

The net result of all this will be a much stronger right leaning Europe courtesy of the Donald. They could call it MEGA - Make Europe Great Again!
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Old 06-11-18, 04:34 PM
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Trump villainizes all our allies, all the time, while heaping praise on Putin, Xi and dictators. Even Kim Jong.

Putin is especially disgusting. Interfered with our election. Constant cyber attacks. His own intel warns of further attacks esp. in midterms. Has not backed off Crimea, Syria. Then attacks a British citizen on British soil. Is condemned internationally. And what does our POTUS do? Stumps for him at the G7 while attacking our alliances. Like a puppet.

Why is that? Nah nothing to see there, lol. I actually believe, not joking, Trump and significant % of supporters have become traitors. For real. Forget punish, actually welcome Russian interference - if it supports the party. Putin's approval rating among Republicans is up 20%. Shameful what GOP has become. Together with constant lies and reality show behavior, what a pathetic stain on American history.

But but but...Obama (and Clinton) tried to make healthcare available to millions who were not allowed to get insurance or couldn't afford. How evil. Meanwhile we're increasing the deficit by the hundreds of billions.
Your history is a bit off there TP. I mean when you talk about the Crimea don't forget all those Russian soldiers that died over 200 years ago taking it away from the Ottoman Empire and adding it to the Russian Empire. This is a region of the world with a lot of history and there's more to it then events occurring in the 21st century.

And do you think Trump really supports Russia? Ever hear of the old saying "keep your friends close and your enemies closer"? As for Russian interference in the last election why did Obama and his administration sit on their hands as Putin was meddling in our affairs? As early as 2015 Obama could have made this a huge issue but he choose not to. I wonder why?

And I believe that you and the other anti-Trump zealots do believe he's a traitor and by extension his supporters are traitors to. This is why I fear that our country is closer to a real civil war then at any time since 1860. When your side demonizes the other side to the extent you have what political compromise is possible?
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Old 06-11-18, 04:37 PM
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You made your mistake when you mentioned "thinking person". There appear to be none on the other side of the aisle.
An important fact to know though!
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Old 06-11-18, 04:43 PM
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Also, Jack Dorsey apologizing to Twitter for eating a Chik-Fil-A sandwich.

Pretty good 24 hours, TBH.
In some ways Fish this is a huge story because it shows just how intolerant the left wing SJW's really are. I mean the CEO of a major American company has to apologize for eating at a restaurant known for doing good works in the communities they serve. And all because the company's religious CEO is against gay marriage. Astonishing!

It's funny because no matter how many times Robert De Niro tells Trump to F off I'm still going to love watching Casino, the Godfather 2, & Goodfellas.
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Old 06-13-18, 11:37 AM
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Homeless in Seattle still seeking a sponsor.....

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A tax on large companies such as Amazon that was meant to fight a growing homelessness crisis got rolled back during a raucous Seattle City Council meeting that exposed divisions over how much companies that have fueled booming economies should help pay to alleviate the downsides of success.

A divided crowd chanted, jeered and booed at the meeting, drowning out city leaders as they cast a 7-2 vote Tuesday. People shouted, "Stop the repeal," as others unfurled a large red banner that read, "Tax Amazon." An opposing group held "No tax on jobs" signs.

The vote showed Amazon's ability to aggressively push back on government taxes, especially in its affluent hometown where it's the largest employer with more than 45,000 workers and where it has been criticized for contributing to a widening income gap.
Killing the Golden Goose is NEVER a good idea.....
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Old 06-13-18, 11:44 AM
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Geez I am concerned I was thinking the exact same thing about killing the goose. Amazon has the leverage.
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Old 06-13-18, 02:13 PM
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Russia's state TV:
Dean of Moscow state University: "The EU is coming apart at the seams —thanks to American God & voters, Trump is smashing it with a sledgehammer. That's why Putin says he isn't trying to weaken the EU. Why would he bother? Trump is doing all the work for him."
The EU is coming apart at the seems and not because of Trump or America. You have 28 distinctly different countries. They speak different languages and are separated by physical barriers which have created very different cultures. You have several countries propping up the non performers and after awhile that begins to take its toll. Now your best countries are struggling and they have no where to turn. It was doomed from the beginning.
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Old 06-13-18, 09:56 PM
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So cuddle up with dictators. MAGA
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