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Old 03-02-19, 12:12 PM
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Old 03-02-19, 12:28 PM
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love the copy and paste job description. Sure to garner copy and paste resumes leading to the job given to the pre-selected candidate (usually).


"mission centered leader...."
sorry, that was rude. Button pushed.




tough to be in the same league as Moeller. It would be a chore to find a schedule with wins so consistently lop sided against credible competition.

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Old 03-02-19, 01:22 PM
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tough to be in the same league as Moeller. It would be a chore to find a schedule with wins so consistently lop sided against credible competition.
St X should be a basketball power. They recruit the entire city and have 1600 boys in the school. With the endless amount of resources that school has, NO REASON they cant find 5+ stud basketball players in each grade.

Wasn't the current coach only there for one year? Why is he leaving already?
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Old 03-02-19, 01:24 PM
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St X should be a basketball power. They recruit the entire city and have 400 boys in each class. NO REASON they cant find 5+ stud basketball players in each grade.

Wasn't the current coach only there for one year? Why is he leaving already?
Was just an "Interim head coach"--not a teacher--probably ideally want a teacher in the building. Maybe Higgins from Hamilton (St. X grad) would leave Big Blue after 1 year ---Of course Scott Martin is still in the building.
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Old 03-02-19, 01:39 PM
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Maybe they will poach one of the Moeller assistants. It worked for the baseball program. GBM
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Old 03-02-19, 02:30 PM
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IMO Iím going with Noszka or Neal...
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Old 03-02-19, 03:07 PM
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Was just an "Interim head coach"--not a teacher--probably ideally want a teacher in the building. Maybe Higgins from Hamilton (St. X grad) would leave Big Blue after 1 year ---Of course Scott Martin is still in the building.
Martin was a very good coach until his kid got to high school. Then, for whatever reason, they stopped playing GCL-style basketball. They don't play methodic offense and physical defense the way they used to.
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Old 03-02-19, 10:35 PM
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Martin was a very good coach until his kid got to high school. Then, for whatever reason, they stopped playing GCL-style basketball. They don't play methodic offense and physical defense the way they used to.
Things were going downhill before his son got to X.Even if you take Moeller out of the equation, he was still way underperforming. I donít know what exactly happened, but it was clear he just didnt have it anymore.
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Old 03-05-19, 09:42 AM
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St X should be a basketball power. They recruit the entire city and have 1600 boys in the school. With the endless amount of resources that school has, NO REASON they cant find 5+ stud basketball players in each grade.

Wasn't the current coach only there for one year? Why is he leaving already?
Deer Park's rent-a-coach should be ready to move on. The ultimate recruiter.
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Old 03-07-19, 02:21 PM
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St X should be a basketball power. They recruit the entire city and have 1600 boys in the school. With the endless amount of resources that school has, NO REASON they cant find 5+ stud basketball players in each grade.

Wasn't the current coach only there for one year? Why is he leaving already?
A large majority of the kids they "recruit" are smart, non athletic students. That actually describes a large % of the student population. If student population equated to athletic success then Oak Hills should be a power every year.

Now that we have put the school population argument aside (one the Elder posters in particular love to raise) why has St X struggled in basketball the past ten years.

It comes down to three potential reasons.

1. Talented basketball players are not drawn to St X
2. Talented basketball players attend St X but don't play basketball
3. Poor coaching

In the past ten years here is the breakdown of number of 1st and 2nd team GCL selections for each school

Moeller 24 20
LaSalle 19 18
Elder 12 16
St X 11 12

So St X has had the least number of first team and second team selections. So it appears they have less talent

Here is the breakdown of coach of the year selections

Moe 7
LaSalle 5
Elder 2
St X 0

There were 12 selections in ten years because in '15 and '16 there was a three way tie between Moe LaSalle and Elder

So it appears again St X is lacking versus its GCL peers

So less talent and not as good of coaching.

Lets hope they make a great hire and turn the ship around
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Old 03-07-19, 02:33 PM
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A large majority of the kids they "recruit" are smart, non athletic students. That actually describes a large % of the student population. If student population equated to athletic success then Oak Hills should be a power every year.

Now that we have put the school population argument aside (one the Elder posters in particular love to raise) why has St X struggled in basketball the past ten years.

It comes down to three potential reasons.

1. Talented basketball players are not drawn to St X
2. Talented basketball players attend St X but don't play basketball
3. Poor coaching

In the past ten years here is the breakdown of number of 1st and 2nd team GCL selections for each school

Moeller 24 20
LaSalle 19 18
Elder 12 16
St X 11 12

So St X has had the least number of first team and second team selections. So it appears they have less talent

Here is the breakdown of coach of the year selections

Moe 7
LaSalle 5
Elder 2
St X 0

There were 12 selections in ten years because in '15 and '16 there was a three way tie between Moe LaSalle and Elder

So it appears again St X is lacking versus its GCL peers

So less talent and not as good of coaching.

Lets hope they make a great hire and turn the ship around
I don't know what the issue is at St X but every single year for about the last 5-7 years people on the GCYL threads seem to think they've been bringing in the best basketball talent in the league. I don't know if it's biased St X fans saying that and they are just flat out wrong, but it seems like they've had loaded rosters entering the school as freshman for a good while now.
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Old 03-07-19, 05:15 PM
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I don't know what the issue is at St X but every single year for about the last 5-7 years people on the GCYL threads seem to think they've been bringing in the best basketball talent in the league. I don't know if it's biased St X fans saying that and they are just flat out wrong, but it seems like they've had loaded rosters entering the school as freshman for a good while now.
It is probably a safe bet that fans are lacking objectivity and hyping 8th graders as some of the best in the city.

I think one of the things about St X which differs from Moeller for sure and possibly LaSalle (maybe not as much with Elder) is that their best incoming basketball players are often football players first (or ultimately lean towards football) The most hyped players in the current senior class when coming in as freshmen were Chris Payne and Thomas Kiessling. Football became the main sport for both, so much so for Payne that he didnt even play is senior year. In past years guys like Sean Clifford and Chase Wolf were great basketball players, whose primary committment was to football.

At Moeller some of the best players (McBride, Jaxson hayes) quit football to focus on basketball.

I have the impression (although I certainly may be wrong) that some of Elder's best athletes remain 2 and even 3 sport players (a kid like Bittner). That seems to be much more rare at St X these days, or at least they don't approach their secondary sports with as much passion and commitment.
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Old 03-07-19, 04:30 PM
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A large majority of the kids they "recruit" are smart, non athletic students. That actually describes a large % of the student population.
So St X is filled with "nerds", but you can find and attract 100+ boys to play football and another 100+ to swim (to say nothing about tennis, golf, baseball, water polo, soccer, lacrosse, cross country etc., etc. etc.) but you cant find 5 studs each year to play basketball?

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Old 03-07-19, 05:08 PM
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So St X is filled with "nerds", but you can find and attract 100+ boys to play football and another 100+ to swim (to say nothing about tennis, golf, baseball, water polo, soccer, lacrosse, cross country etc., etc. etc.) but you cant find 5 studs each year to play basketball?
My comment was meant as a jab at the standard 1,600 boys comment that often is used by non St X supporters. Its as if having 1600 boys guarantees the school should excel at every single endeavor.

The fact is St X has not had a good basketball program for the past 10 years. The past ten years the basketball team is 109-120 including 20-56 in GCL play while going 0-6 during four straight seasons. Only once during those ten years did the team have a winning record in the GCL. Four times the team failed to reach double digit wins. Since 2013 the team is 3-33 in the GCL. (I am sure you are taking great delight in these stats)

During this same ten year period the team has had success in virtually every other sport and continues to crank out national merit semifinalists.

It certainly is a mystery as to how a school that excels in so many areas can have such a bad run in basketball.

Maybe instead of accepting 400 kids a class they can accept 405 kids a class and make sure the last 5 are basketball studs
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Old 03-07-19, 11:35 PM
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A large majority of the kids they "recruit" are smart, non athletic students. That actually describes a large % of the student population. If student population equated to athletic success then Oak Hills should be a power every year.

Now that we have put the school population argument aside (one the Elder posters in particular love to raise) why has St X struggled in basketball the past ten years.

It comes down to three potential reasons.

1. Talented basketball players are not drawn to St X
2. Talented basketball players attend St X but don't play basketball
3. Poor coaching

In the past ten years here is the breakdown of number of 1st and 2nd team GCL selections for each school

Moeller 24 20
LaSalle 19 18
Elder 12 16
St X 11 12

So St X has had the least number of first team and second team selections. So it appears they have less talent

Here is the breakdown of coach of the year selections

Moe 7
LaSalle 5
Elder 2
St X 0

There were 12 selections in ten years because in '15 and '16 there was a three way tie between Moe LaSalle and Elder

So it appears again St X is lacking versus its GCL peers

So less talent and not as good of coaching.

Lets hope they make a great hire and turn the ship around
Just a note on this: I believe league voting for all-conference teams is based on the teams league standing. The top team gets the most selections named to the all star team and the bottom team gets the least. Many conferences handle it this way. Have seen kids with better stats who are more talented lose out to lessor players form other teams because their team had hit their quota.
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Old 03-02-19, 09:46 PM
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Fleming’s job if he wants it
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Old 03-04-19, 01:58 PM
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Him or his son? Not sure if youíre serious, but I know his oldest is a well respected member of the OH staff. Only issue is a matter of experience bc heís very young.
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Old 03-04-19, 05:10 PM
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Kerr may apply. His Purcell Marian team should go to state in D3
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Old 03-04-19, 05:14 PM
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Kerr may apply. His Purcell Marian team should go to state in D3
Not sure heíd be a good fit with St Xavier parents.
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Old 03-04-19, 09:45 PM
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Kerr may apply. His Purcell Marian team should go to state in D3
Nope. He wonít leave PM. Loaded with young talent again. If Iím st. X Iím throwing everything I can at Fleming or cov cath coach
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Old 03-05-19, 10:26 AM
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Nope. He won’t leave PM. Loaded with young talent again. If I’m st. X I’m throwing everything I can at Fleming or cov cath coach
Nozka from Wilmington would be a great fit as well. I'm sure Brian Neal from RB will be going after that job. After the disaster of hiring outside the area with Jimmy L I expect X to hire someone local. I'm sure the new AD has some Dayton ties too and I could see someone from up there taking over. The Butler Coach has been in the market but those are public school guys so I'm not sure how the finances would work out.

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Old 03-04-19, 05:36 PM
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I think that X's former coach was a late hire due to "lack of attention to detail" problems that the coach that replaced Martin had. There were some teaching problems. I happened to watch the practice the day before the Princeton game. Not many athletes and a boring "set driven, pass around the perimeter centric offense." Need to get someone that is involved with basketball outside the regular season, establish a reputation and draw the players. On a different note, I thought X's baseball coach came form Middletown Fenwick. Did he coach at Moeller too?
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Old 03-05-19, 10:18 AM
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I think that X's former coach was a late hire due to "lack of attention to detail" problems that the coach that replaced Martin had. There were some teaching problems. I happened to watch the practice the day before the Princeton game. Not many athletes and a boring "set driven, pass around the perimeter centric offense." Need to get someone that is involved with basketball outside the regular season, establish a reputation and draw the players. On a different note, I thought X's baseball coach came form Middletown Fenwick. Did he coach at Moeller too?
I like your profile of what they should be looking for. Assuming he is retired from teaching, wouldn't Mike Price be a great candidate? He checks all of your boxes. Thoughts?
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Old 03-05-19, 10:20 AM
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I like your profile of what they should be looking for. Assuming he is retired from teaching, wouldn't Mike Price be a great candidate? He checks all of your boxes. Thoughts?
Why would Price leave a job he's been at for 28 years to go to X and start over?
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Old 03-05-19, 01:36 PM
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Why would Price leave a job he's been at for 28 years to go to X and start over?
New challenge. Much broader pool of potential talent. Tired of the mediocre talent at Oak Hills. Just to name a few reasons he might.
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Old 03-05-19, 01:49 PM
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Not sure why Nozsca is considered such a great candidate? Out side of the years he had the Cumberlandís what exactly has he done. Neal would be a good fit also a a lot of good young talent at bacon but i could see him going for it.
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Old 03-05-19, 03:18 PM
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New challenge. Much broader pool of potential talent. Tired of the mediocre talent at Oak Hills. Just to name a few reasons he might.
Price isnít going anywhere.
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Old 03-07-19, 01:04 PM
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Hearing Brook Cupps of Centerville is a candidate as well. Has a son who will be a freshman that played with Bronny James for NCBC...could be a candidate for the Lakers too
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Old 03-05-19, 06:15 PM
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I like your profile of what they should be looking for. Assuming he is retired from teaching, wouldn't Mike Price be a great candidate? He checks all of your boxes. Thoughts?
I thought Coach Price is happy and content where he is right now?

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I like your profile of what they should be looking for. Assuming he is retired from teaching, wouldn't Mike Price be a great candidate? He checks all of your boxes. Thoughts?
Price has best gig ever at Oak Hills. he's not leaving there.
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