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Old 03-31-17, 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Hoban2019 View Post
Listen, I am a big fan of the verbal warning. However, if a ref sees a violation but gives a warning instead of calling a foul, I don't know how that can be construed as ensuring the "game is played within rules". By your scenario, a player violated a rule and was given only a warning. It may be the best thing for the game, but it is not "following the rules".

It is semantics, so perhaps worth discussing no further. There is a lot of gray area within the referee's job, and it is no easy task.
I understand. I think you agree the only real problem here was the intentional call from the bench to a player not active on the ball.

Now if that rule needs to be adjusted you could probably argue many ways, but the ref did nothing wrong in this scenario. Only the coach.
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Old 03-31-17, 09:43 PM
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This Post is running out of steam. My questions are these:
#1-Did said Coach instruct said player to foul?
#2-Did said player follow instructions and intentionally foul the opponent?
#3-Did said official warn before making the call?
The answer to all of said questions is yes. The official did the right thing even though the Moeller staff disagrees and have gotten away with it in the past.
Moving forward something needs to be done to help the officials. Right now it is to subjective for officials. Make it very clear what happens in the intentional "hack a Shaq" scenario. The foul wasn't flagrant, but it was intentional. Take the gray area out of the officials subjective decision making.
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Old 04-13-17, 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by MoeDude View Post
Congratulations to Jackson on their state title. They hung tough in a hard fought battle. As for this thread it's just more trash from jwuerth who is a reknown Moeller hater and is allowed to spew his hate any time he wants on Yappi. The man truly is a pathetic tool.
But is he a liar ?

What a funny thread. Too bad that I missed it in real time.

Things seem to polarize along a few different lines.
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Old 04-13-17, 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by CatAlum View Post
Having viewed the play...

No doubt the foul was "intentional"...not physical or dirty, but definitely purposeful and the clear desire was to have a foul called. The interesting question is what caused the Moeller coach to think he could get away with it? Especially with refs he's not familiar with. Does he have a history of calling for that tactic and getting a common foul called by most/all refs?
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Old 04-26-17, 02:40 PM
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This may be a solution in search of a problem, but what about a rule in the last 2 minutes or so that if a foul is against a player who is not in possession of the ball, then the team would have the option of sending the player to the line or taking the ball out of bounds. This would benefit the team with the poor FT shooter and allow him to stay on the floor for defensive or rebounding purposes. But it would also benefit the team that is committing the foul because it would force the other team to inbound the ball; which is often no easy task.
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