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Old 09-15-17, 03:00 PM
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MLB Active Pitchers that will make the Hall-Of-Fame

In the past, top pitchers with long careers were more recognizable. Of the current pitchers, who do you think is a HOF pitcher that is active in 2017:


Top 50 in wins (active)
Rank Player (yrs, age) Wins
1 Bartolo Colon (20, 44) 239
2 CC Sabathia (17, 36) 234
3 John Lackey (15, 38) 187
4 Justin Verlander (13, 34) 185
5 Zack Greinke (14, 33) 171
6 Felix Hernandez (13, 31) 159
7 Jon Lester (12, 33) 157
8 Jered Weaver (12, 34) 150
9 Bronson Arroyo (16, 40) 148
9 Ervin Santana (13, 34) 148
11 Cole Hamels (12, 33) 146
11 Adam Wainwright (12, 35) 146
13 Clayton Kershaw (10, 29) 143
14 Max Scherzer (10, 32) 139
15 James Shields (12, 35) 137
16 David Price (10, 31) 126
17 Johnny Cueto (10, 31) 121
18 R.A. Dickey (15, 42) 119
19 Gio Gonzalez (10, 31) 116
19 Rick Porcello (9, 28) 116
21 Ricky Nolasco (12, 34) 114
22 Yovani Gallardo (11, 31) 113
22 Ubaldo Jimenez (12, 33) 113
24 Scott Kazmir (12, 33) 108
25 Matt Cain (13, 32) 104
25 Jorge De La Rosa (14, 36) 104
27 Madison Bumgarner (9, 27) 103
28 Francisco Liriano (12, 33) 102
29 Joe Blanton (13, 36) 101
30 Edwin Jackson (15, 33) 98
31 Matt Garza (12, 33) 93
31 Edinson Volquez (13, 33) 93
33 Jason Hammel (12, 34) 92
34 Jeremy Guthrie (13, 38) 91
35 J.A. Happ (11, 34) 90
35 Ian Kennedy (11, 32) 90
35 Chris Sale (8, 28) 90
35 Anibal Sanchez (12, 33) 90
39 Jake Arrieta (8, 31) 88
39 Phil Hughes (11, 31) 88
41 Jordan Zimmermann (9, 31) 87
42 Mike Leake (8, 29) 83
43 Doug Fister (9, 33) 82
43 Stephen Strasburg (8, 28) 82
43 Jason Vargas (12, 34) 82
46 Clay Buchholz (11, 32) 81
46 Kyle Kendrick (10, 32) 81
48 Chris Young (13, 38) 79
49 Scott Feldman (13, 34) 78
50 Corey Kluber (7, 31) 74
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Old 09-25-17, 08:13 PM
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Sabathia, Verlander, Kershaw and Baumgarner
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Old 09-26-17, 07:56 AM
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The average pitcher in the HOF has 253 wins a WAR of 70 and an ERA of 2.98


I'd say those are pretty good criteria for evaluating HOF worthiness.

Colon has 239 wins, 45.7 WAR and 4.05 ERA
Sabathia has 236 wins, 61.4 WAR and 3.71 ERA

No one else is close to 253 wins.

Madbum would need 15 wins a year for another 10 years (age 37).
Kershaw would need 7 plus seasons of 15 wins (age 36).
Verlander would need nearly 5 years of 15 wins each (age 39).
Felix Hernandez would need 6 plus years (age 37).

All these are possible but not likely.

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Old 09-26-17, 08:09 AM
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I think you are going to see different metrics for pitchers and the HOF moving forward. Wins to the level that the current hall of famers have is not attainable anymore due to the 5 man rotation, limits on starts and innings. Colon is a freak of nature and he's still got only 239 wins.

I think a pitcher who is a dominant pitcher for 8-10 years may be the metric moving forward, WHIP, ERA and other factors not wins and losses may be the measure.
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Old 09-26-17, 11:22 AM
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Gulp. I sort of agree with 14Red. It is a very different era for those reasons stated, plus it is simply an unprecedented time for HRs and Runs. Apples to apples number comparisons would mean no current pitchers get in the HOF.

If Kershaw does anything close to his current level for another 2-3 years, he is a lock for the HOF.

Next level down for me are Verlander, Scherzer, Sale, Felix H. They need to continue being productive and winning, but they could get in.

For me it is 'no way' for Colon or Sabathia. It needs to be about more than longevity. Colon was never really a top shelf pitcher in the MLB at any given time. Sabathia had a few years where he was dominant, but nothing sustained.
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