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Old 05-25-18, 10:52 AM
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Nice win yesterday. Castillo 6 IP, solid. Hung on at the end. Suarez with a granny and Winker with his first, his first home run of the season.

So we are what 50+ games into the season and Winker has 1 home run. In 2018, can you have a corner outfielder not hit home runs? I'm not necessarily a huge home run guy, but Winker is on pace for less than 10, and that's just not dooable, especially in our ball park.
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Old 05-25-18, 11:00 AM
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Not when the cf adds nothing. The Reds outfield has been atrocious this year to date.
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Old 05-25-18, 05:18 PM
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Nice win yesterday. Castillo 6 IP, solid. Hung on at the end. Suarez with a granny and Winker with his first, his first home run of the season.

So we are what 50+ games into the season and Winker has 1 home run. In 2018, can you have a corner outfielder not hit home runs? I'm not necessarily a huge home run guy, but Winker is on pace for less than 10, and that's just not dooable, especially in our ball park.
Wait a minute. You just posted the other day that -- because of Duvall's tendency to strike out too much -- that you would start Winker/Hamilton/Schebler on an everyday basis.
Now "that's just not dooable"?

What has changed in the last 2 days (other than Winker hit a home run, lol)?

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Old 05-25-18, 05:23 PM
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I would use Duval as the 4th outfield. An occasional spot start. My daily lineup would include the outfield of Winker/ Hamilton/ Schebler.

Winker would lead off every day, Hamilton would bat 9th, everyday.


I like the Adam Duvall story, part time outfielder turns slugger, makes the all star game, is in the home run derby. But he simply cannot put the bat on the ball enough. He's a good defensive out fielder, so if you want to make him a late game defensive replacement in left field, I"m good with that.
Even though you don't think that Winker is "dooable", you would lead him off -- everyday.
I thought you said corner outfielders needed to be home run hitters.
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Old 05-25-18, 08:03 PM
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Old 05-25-18, 09:36 PM
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Disco in AAA tonight...5ip, 8h, 6er, 1bb, 8k...ouch
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Old 05-25-18, 10:34 PM
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Riggleman has now cost the Reds 2 chances at wins in the last three games. For teams that don't have a hole lot of talent, you simply can't make those types of manager mistakes.
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Old 05-26-18, 04:41 AM
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Riggleman has now cost the Reds 2 chances at wins in the last three games. For teams that don't have a hole lot of talent, you simply can't make those types of manager mistakes.
I haven't been able to watch a lot lately, so I don't know to what you're referring. What things did he do?
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Old 05-26-18, 10:43 AM
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Riggleman has now cost the Reds 2 chances at wins in the last three games. For teams that don't have a hole lot of talent, you simply can't make those types of manager mistakes.
Is it Riggleman's fauly that Votto does not know how to run the bases?
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Old 05-26-18, 11:43 AM
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Old 05-26-18, 12:56 PM
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Riggleman has now cost the Reds 2 chances at wins in the last three games. For teams that don't have a hole lot of talent, you simply can't make those types of manager mistakes.
Some of it is on the fact that Billy Hamilton is no more useful than a pitcher when he is hitting.

Got stuck with men on the pitchers spot up followed by Hamilton. Easy decision to walk Suarez.
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Old 05-26-18, 12:57 PM
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Is it Riggleman's fauly that Votto does not know how to run the bases?
He would have been out by 60 ft.
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Old 05-26-18, 02:26 PM
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So the draft is in a little over a week. The Reds really need a guy who can be up in 2 yrs. I’m still high on Madrigal the SS from Oregon St. In 108 at bats (he’s been dinged up this year), he’s hitting .435 with FOUR strikeouts. He’s the best pure hitter in the Draft. The only other guys I’d take ahead of him are Brady Singer RHP from Florida and Casey Mize RHP from Auburn. Very unlikely either are still around with the Reds picking at 5
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Old 05-26-18, 07:10 PM
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I've tried watching more of Madrigal's games since some predictions have had him being available and possibly going to the Reds. I really like him and believe he could be able to play in a couple of years but is middle infielder truly a need? Let's say they trade Scooter either this year or next...That still leaves Peraza, Suarez and possibly Senzel for at least the next five years as infield options. Sure they could end up making a trade to free up a spot but I think all 3 are far from max trade value. MLB Draft is probably the hardest to predict in terms of future success.
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Old 05-26-18, 11:09 PM
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Mahle can't throw strikes. Woefully inefficient with pitch count.
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Old 05-27-18, 12:20 AM
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Scooter is now batting .351 with 7 HR and 21 RBIs in May...not bad
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Old 05-27-18, 04:02 AM
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I've tried watching more of Madrigal's games since some predictions have had him being available and possibly going to the Reds. I really like him and believe he could be able to play in a couple of years but is middle infielder truly a need? Let's say they trade Scooter either this year or next...That still leaves Peraza, Suarez and possibly Senzel for at least the next five years as infield options. Sure they could end up making a trade to free up a spot but I think all 3 are far from max trade value. MLB Draft is probably the hardest to predict in terms of future success.
Dont count on Peraza. Another guy worth looking at, but who probably wont last until #5, Joey Bart Catcher from G Tech.
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Old 05-27-18, 07:58 AM
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So we are what 50+ games into the season and Winker has 1 home run. In 2018, can you have a corner outfielder not hit home runs? I'm not necessarily a huge home run guy, but Winker is on pace for less than 10, and that's just not dooable, especially in our ball park.

We all know math is not your thing. But when you have played 53 games and hit one HR, you are on pace for 3 HR for the year.

So one day you say that the Reds need more HR, but that they should bench Duvall, the leading HR hitter and a guy with 64 HR the last two seasons. You say Winker should bat leadoff every day.

Then you post that the Reds need more HR and Winker is not doable because Winker is a corner OF with no power.

You are the most inconsistent, illogical, insane person that I have never met. Have a point of view, and be consistent.

For the record, my point of view remains the same. The OF needs to be Winker, Schebler, Duvall.
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Old 05-27-18, 08:29 AM
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I've tried watching more of Madrigal's games since some predictions have had him being available and possibly going to the Reds. I really like him and believe he could be able to play in a couple of years but is middle infielder truly a need? Let's say they trade Scooter either this year or next...That still leaves Peraza, Suarez and possibly Senzel for at least the next five years as infield options. Sure they could end up making a trade to free up a spot but I think all 3 are far from max trade value. MLB Draft is probably the hardest to predict in terms of future success.
Suarez isn't at max trade value? I'd disagree.
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Old 05-27-18, 08:31 AM
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So the draft is in a little over a week. The Reds really need a guy who can be up in 2 yrs. Im still high on Madrigal the SS from Oregon St. In 108 at bats (hes been dinged up this year), hes hitting .435 with FOUR strikeouts. Hes the best pure hitter in the Draft. The only other guys Id take ahead of him are Brady Singer RHP from Florida and Casey Mize RHP from Auburn. Very unlikely either are still around with the Reds picking at 5
The Reds should stay away from drafting pitchers. They really struggle to develop them.

Stick to bats. Sign FA pitching.
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