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Old 04-11-19, 08:35 AM
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SVSM Head Coach, Harry Lester, placed on admin leave.

Just saw this story in the Akron Beacon Journal’s website.

https://www.ohio.com/news/20190410/s...p-with-student
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Old 04-11-19, 11:45 AM
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Old 04-11-19, 12:05 PM
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That's a shame, he was building a solid program. I hope it's not but if this is true, he will never coach again.
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Old 04-11-19, 12:22 PM
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WOW! I hope this is not true!
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Old 04-11-19, 12:59 PM
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As someone who works in education, I would encourage the forum public not to jump to conclusions. It says "alleged". So while the consideration of the child should ALWAYS be placed first during the investigation, it is not outside the realm of possibility that the allegations are untrue. I won't mention the school (believe it or not it was a solid school) but I taught at a school my first year out of college and have overheard students talking about teachers they don't like and how they can sabotage them by tanking their state tests (low scores by a teachers students lowers their evaluations) and by saying the teacher said inappropriate things to them.

Sometimes I wish they wouldn't post stories like this until the investigation has concluded. He may well be guilty, but even if innocent, he is guilty by perception and public opinion already.
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Old 04-11-19, 01:31 PM
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I like Harry a lot and hope this is not true for both the student and Harry.
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Old 04-11-19, 02:30 PM
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As someone who works in education, I would encourage the forum public not to jump to conclusions. It says "alleged". So while the consideration of the child should ALWAYS be placed first during the investigation, it is not outside the realm of possibility that the allegations are untrue. I won't mention the school (believe it or not it was a solid school) but I taught at a school my first year out of college and have overheard students talking about teachers they don't like and how they can sabotage them by tanking their state tests (low scores by a teachers students lowers their evaluations) and by saying the teacher said inappropriate things to them.

Sometimes I wish they wouldn't post stories like this until the investigation has concluded. He may well be guilty, but even if innocent, he is guilty by perception and public opinion already.

Well said sir.


I also urge folks not to jump to a conclusion on this. Everyone has the right to be innocent until proven guilty. Also, this would be so out of character for Harry Lester, a family man with three children.

I’ve gotten information re this situation that is not yet public. That being said, I hope the high school had their attorney look over the letter before it was emailed out.
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Old 04-11-19, 03:06 PM
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No one jumped to any conclusion. It is a story of significance and it is newsworthy. The uncertainty of the situation is important to anyone that may be considering sending their son there to wrestle. I’m sure all of us hope this isn’t true and the matter is handled expeditiously.
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Old 04-11-19, 03:53 PM
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I would encourage the forum public not to jump to conclusions.
Did he say anyone did??
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Old 04-11-19, 10:28 PM
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Unfortunate situation for everybody involved!
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Old 04-12-19, 05:26 AM
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Wasn't stv just as good if not better under the previous coach as well?
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Old 04-12-19, 06:50 AM
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Wasn't stv just as good if not better under the previous coach as well?
They have finished in the Top 10 three years in a row. Which is something they haven’t accomplished in 15 years (2002-2004).
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Old 04-12-19, 09:27 AM
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Angry

Disgusting, this is horribly bad for our sport
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Old 04-12-19, 09:36 AM
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Disgusting


Shouldn't we wait until we know something for certain?

I do agree that, any 'bad press' is horrible for wrestling.
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Old 04-12-19, 10:11 AM
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Is SVSM coed or all boys?
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Old 04-12-19, 10:18 AM
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Is SVSM coed or all boys?
Seriously???????????????????????????? Are you not aware of the issue at hand?
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Old 04-12-19, 11:32 AM
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Seriously???????????????????????????? Are you not aware of the issue at hand?
No, people are not.

To answer his question it is coed
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Old 04-12-19, 11:35 AM
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Possibly?

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They have finished in the Top 10 three years in a row. Which is something they haven’t accomplished in 15 years (2002-2004).
But the last full three years of the last coach they placed on average better than that. 8,5,8 and 11,5,3
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Old 04-12-19, 11:54 AM
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[QUOTE=jmog;7296497]No, people are not.

If people on this site are not aware of the issue related to this thread they must be living in a cave.
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Old 04-12-19, 01:01 PM
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For folks to have an idea they would have had to click on the link and we know folks don't read. Probably 1/4 didn't even read the comments before they commented?
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Old 04-12-19, 01:04 PM
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For folks to have an idea they would have had to click on the link and we know folks don't read. Probably 1/4 didn't even read the comments before they commented?
The article also doesn't answer the question that the person asked.

Of course, the person could have easily done the research himself/herself.
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Old 04-12-19, 01:08 PM
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For folks to have an idea they would have had to click on the link and we know folks don't read. Probably 1/4 didn't even read the comments before they commented?
.....or maybe they have no radio, newspaper, I phone, internet, or live in a cave.
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Old 04-12-19, 01:15 PM
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Probably 1/4 didn't even read the comments before they commented.
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Old 04-12-19, 01:17 PM
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Seriously???????????????????????????? Are you not aware of the issue at hand?
His question was if SVSM was coed or all boys.

What would the article or what "we" know so far answer his question?

Nothing at all.

All "we" know based on anywhere you look on the internet (Fox 8, Beacon Journal, Plain Dealer, the letter from SVSM President to Alumni, etc) is that he is on leave while under investigation for an inappropriate relationship with a student last year. The student has since graduated, and a police report has also been filed.

Nothing in that totality of information would answer his question, is SVSM coed or all boys.
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Old 04-12-19, 01:20 PM
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Seriously???????????????????????????? Are you not aware of the issue at hand?
To be fair, the article never states the sex of the student that the alleged relationship happened with.
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Old 04-12-19, 01:24 PM
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To be fair, the article never states the sex of the student that the alleged relationship happened with.
Exactly what I was getting at, but trying to be somewhat "PC" until the facts are fleshed out.
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Old 04-12-19, 01:29 PM
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its sad

thats people are allowed to accuse someone and before it gets properly investigated there is a story about in a publication. His name is forever attached to this accusation whether it was true or not. People just always assume the worst.
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Old 04-12-19, 01:37 PM
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It doesn't, but it does say the following: Carone said in the email school staff members undergo state and federal background checks and must also complete VIRTUS training, instruction by certified facilitators on the prevention of child sexual abuse, when they’re hired. Is SVSM an all boy school?
Which all coaches/teachers/etc go through.

Still doesn't even hint at the sex of the student therefore leaving the question valid (is SVSM coed).
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Old 04-12-19, 02:27 PM
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Most news outlets have used “she” and “her”
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Old 04-12-19, 02:34 PM
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Most news outlets have used “she” and “her”
However, the official release from the school President made no mention of gender at all. That would indicate, to me, that the "news outlets" are making an assumption. Maybe they are accurate but who knows?
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