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Old 06-07-18, 04:21 PM
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All-Ohioans by Regional

As was done last year, I've tallied up the number of All-Ohioans produced by each regional, and I've also noted any instances where a regional had all of its qualifiers make All-Ohio (including the at-larges) or was kept off the podium.

Division I Boys
Austintown - 24 (blanked in the 400, 4x400, and pole vault)
Amherst - 38 (swept the discus)
Pickerington - 44 (swept the 100 and 110H, blanked in the long jump and discus)
Huber Hts. - 30 (swept the 400)

Division I Girls
Austintown - 29 (blanked in the 300H, 4x800, and high jump)
Amherst - 26 (blanked in the 4x100, 4x200, and 4x800)
Pickerington - 43 (swept the 4x800)
Huber Hts. - 38 (swept the 100H, blanked in the 400)

Division II Boys
Austintown - 25 (blanked in the 110H, 4x400, and pole vault)
Lexington - 40 (blanked in the 110H)
Muskingum - 30 (swept the 110H, blanked in the 800)
Piqua - 41

Division II Girls
Austintown - 39 (blanked in the pole vault)
Lexington - 33 (swept the pole vault, blanked in the 800)
Muskingum - 26 (blanked in the 200, 4x100, and 4x200)
Piqua - 38 (swept the 4x200, blanked in the 4x800)

Division III Boys
Massillon Perry - 46 (swept the 4x100)
Tiffin - 27 (blanked in the 1600 and 4x100)
Fairfield Union - 34 (blanked in the pole vault, swept the 100 and 4x400)
Troy - 29 (blanked in the high jump)

Division III Girls
Massillon Perry - 35
Tiffin - 28 (blanked in the 100, 200, 3200, 100H, and 300H)
Fairfield Union - 32
Troy - 41

I may eventually further break this data down by district meet.

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Old 06-07-18, 08:40 PM
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Well done Mr. Slippery
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Nice data. What would probably be more interesting is where the concentrations of D2/D3 powers are at the district level. I predict the New Richmond D2/D3 will show a dearth of impact at the state level. Those divisions have really suffered in recent years when you look at the overall level of depth at those districts. I don't want to mention any specific events, but in a few events, the winning performances of the last 2 years were the worst in the history of those events since the beginning of those district meets in 1971. The depth has really suffered as well. Sad.
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Nice data. What would probably be more interesting is where the concentrations of D2/D3 powers are at the district level. I predict the New Richmond D2/D3 will show a dearth of impact at the state level. Those divisions have really suffered in recent years when you look at the overall level of depth at those districts. I don't want to mention any specific events, but in a few events, the winning performances of the last 2 years were the worst in the history of those events since the beginning of those district meets in 1971. The depth has really suffered as well. Sad.
I'm working on that, but it'll take some time. I hope to have it done by the end of Saturday if all else that's planned for the day gets done smoothly.
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Old 06-09-18, 12:19 AM
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Division III All-Ohio Totals by District:

Boys
Massillon Perry Regional
Cuyahoga Hts. - 9
Norwayne - 21
St. Clairsville - 4
Springfield - 12
Having the 1st and 2nd place teams both at Norwayne didn't hurt. East Canton and Smithville combined for 17 of the 21 All-Ohio efforts coming from Norwayne.

Tiffin Regional
Archbold - 5
Bucyrus - 8
Findlay - 8
Perkins - 6

Lancaster Fairfield Union Regional
Southeastern North - 5
Southeastern South - 5
Watkins Memorial 1 - 10
Watkins Memorial 2 - 14

Troy Regional
Milton-Union - 5
New Richmond - 2
Piqua - 7
Spencerville - 15

Girls
Massillon Perry Regional
Cuyahoga Hts. - 12
Norwayne - 2
St. Clairsville - 10
Springfield - 11
Norwayne was uncharacteristically down. The district was hurt by graduation and by having the host school's girls move up to DII. St. Clairsville picked up the slack though with some good efforts by athletes from the IVC (Malvern, Ridgewood, Garaway, and Buckeye Trail).

Tiffin Regional
Archbold 1 - 7
Archbold 2 - 3
Findlay - 8
Perkins - 10

Lancaster Fairfield Union Regional
Bucyrus - 6
Southeastern - 11
Watkins Memorial 1 - 7
Watkins Memorial 2 - 8

Troy Regional
Milton-Union - 6
New Richmond - 2
Piqua - 12
Spencerville - 21
Not surprised to see Spencerville produce so many All-Ohioans since that's where Minster and the other MAC schools compete. The host school isn't too shabby either. JAVMAN's thoughts on New Richmond are on the mark as far as DIII is concerned. We'll look at DII later.

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Old 06-09-18, 11:15 AM
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Very nice work! I'm not happy with my assessment on New Richmond. I wish it weren't so as that was my old sectional meet at Reading HS.
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Old 06-09-18, 11:33 AM
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Very nice work! I'm not happy with my assessment on New Richmond. I wish it weren't so as that was my old sectional meet at Reading HS.
Any particular reasons why there has been such a downturn in the performances among athletes competing at NR?
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Any particular reasons why there has been such a downturn in the performances among athletes competing at NR?
I suspect that public schools are hard pressed (dollar-wise) to compete for knowledgeable coaches given the sheer number of smaller schools in the Cincinnati area...not to mention trying to compete with the money large D1 schools & private schools can give them. Also, there have been a number of changes in school district demographics over the last 20 yrs.

My own alma mater has had a huge change. In the early 1980s, they were a mid-sized Class AA school after having been Class AAA in thru most of the 1970s. The community was very professional with most kids having above average IQs and expectations for higher level educations beyond HS. The school is now on academic watch with a D-something rating and now Divison III and heading towards Division IV...if they remain eligible. I predict an end to that school in the next 20 yrs, if not sooner, as I expect it will consolidate with another for financial reasons.

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Old 06-09-18, 01:06 PM
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Division II All-Ohio Totals by District:

Boys
Austintown Regional
Bedford - 12
Salem - 2
Lakeview - 5
Perry - 6
Not surprised that the Salem district had such a poor showing. The mid-sized schools in that area seem to be hurting for athletes these days. It used to be that many of these schools would have a couple boys who could sprint, hurdle, or jump. They don't seem to have them anymore. It's evident on the football field and basketball court, too. In Stark County, there were 10 boys teams this year from either DII or DIII. Those 10 schools only furnished 7 entrants in the 110H at this year's county meet which is held in late-April. The weather may have prevented a few teams from having boys ready for that event, but all in all, that's a pretty good indicator of the lack of athletes in the area.

Lexington Regional
Oak Harbor - 20
Orrville - 2
Westerville 1 - 6
Westerville 2 - 12
Same issue at Orrville as at Salem. Those are the 2 district sites nearest to where I live.
Oak Harbor produced All-Ohioans in all but 3 events.

Muskingum Regional
Meadowbrook - 10
Meigs - 11
Washington Court House - 4
West Holmes - 5

Piqua Regional
Defiance - 8
Graham - 6
New Richmond - 6
Piqua - 21
No surprise that Piqua produced so many All-Ohioans since the Dayton district was transplanted there.

Girls
Austintown Regional
Bedford - 13
Salem - 6
Lakeview - 6
Perry - 14
No surprise here since Perry produced the team champions while Bedford produced the 2nd and 3rd place teams.

Lexington Regional
Oak Harbor - 15
Orrville - 8
Westerville 1 - 7
Westerville 2 - 3

Muskingum Regional
Meadowbrook - 9
Meigs - 3
Washington Court House - 7
West Holmes - 7

Piqua Regional
Defiance - 9
Graham - 10
New Richmond - 3
Piqua - 16
Same as with the boys. The Dayton area is still strong for DII. New Richmond showed better on the DII boys' side, but the DII girls' side was as weak as it was in DIII.
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Old 06-09-18, 08:57 PM
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At long last, Division I All-Ohio Totals by District:

Boys
Austintown Regional
Austintown - 3
Nordonia - 10
Mayfield - 5
North Canton - 5

Amherst Regional
Amherst - 11
Brunswick - 10
Findlay - 10
St. Francis - 7

Pickerington Regional
Hilliard Darby 1 - 17
Hilliard Darby 2 - 15
Hilliard Darby 3 - 11
Marietta - 1

Huber Hts. Regional
Huber Hts. - 11
Mason - 9
Piqua - 6
Winton Woods - 4

Girls
Austintown Regional
Austintown - 8
Nordonia - 13
Mayfield - 7
North Canton - 1

Amherst Regional
Amherst - 5
Brunswick - 12
Findlay - 5
St. Francis - 4

Pickerington Regional
Hilliard Darby 1 - 13
Hilliard Darby 2 - 16
Hilliard Darby 3 - 10
Marietta - 4

Huber Hts. Regional
Huber Hts. - 7
Mason - 19
Piqua - 5
Winton Woods - 7
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Slip, Amherst regional did not sweep the D1 Boys discus. Andrew White (GlenOak, Austintown regional) won the event.
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"Swept" means that all qualifiers from theat Region made the podium at the State Meet.
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"Swept" means that all qualifiers from that Region made the podium at the State Meet.
Yes, that is what I meant by "swept."
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Nice data. What would probably be more interesting is where the concentrations of D2/D3 powers are at the district level. I predict the New Richmond D2/D3 will show a dearth of impact at the state level. Those divisions have really suffered in recent years when you look at the overall level of depth at those districts. I don't want to mention any specific events, but in a few events, the winning performances of the last 2 years were the worst in the history of those events since the beginning of those district meets in 1971. The depth has really suffered as well. Sad.
I was really surprised when I read this statement. I admit I focus mostly on the distance events but as soon as the D2 meet was completed I said to myself that this is the best depth I have ever seen at the D2 district. I compared the three boys distance events to the D1 meet at Winton Woods. Other than some guy named Horter, The New Richmond boys could have swept the D1 races:



New Richmond D2
800
1 James Ray 12 Clark Montes 1:55.27
2 West Gardner 12 Indian Hill 1:57.81
3 Jackson Coates 12 Bethel-Tate 1:58.39
4 Diego Arredondo 10 Madeira 1:58.87

1600
1 Jack Schwartz 11 Wyoming 4:32.55
2 Johnny Giroux 12 Indian Hill 4:33.05
3 Nick Lake 10 Taylor 4:34.31
4 Chase Grauel 10 Taylor 4:34.47

3200
1 Ben Bayless 11 Indian Hill 9:52.89
2 Joe Murdock 12 Indian Hill 9:53.52
3 Ryan Estes 12 Clark Montes 9:54.76
4 Nick Fox 12 Taylor 9:59.99

Winton Woods D1
800
1 Alex Kelker 11 Lak. West 2:02.13
2 Izak Shroyer 12 Fairfield 2:02.47
3 David Williams 12 LaSalle 2:02.70
4 Mitch Luken 12 Oak Hills 2:02.81

1600
1 Dustin Horter 12 Lak. East 4:12.12
2 Alex Kelker 11 Lak. West 4:34.07
3 Drew Toon 12 Oak Hills 4:34.50
4 Nick Vogt 11 LaSalle 4:35.95
3200
1 Dustin Horter 12 Lak. East 9:10.34
2 Jason Middendorf 12 LaSalle 10:15.33
3 David Kraushar 11 Talawanda 10:16.67
4 Nick Merk 12 Elder 10:18.82
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I was really surprised when I read this statement. I admit I focus mostly on the distance events but as soon as the D2 meet was completed I said to myself that this is the best depth I have ever seen at the D2 district. I compared the three boys distance events to the D1 meet at Winton Woods. Other than some guy named Horter, The New Richmond boys could have swept the D1 races:



New Richmond D2
800
1 James Ray 12 Clark Montes 1:55.27
2 West Gardner 12 Indian Hill 1:57.81
3 Jackson Coates 12 Bethel-Tate 1:58.39
4 Diego Arredondo 10 Madeira 1:58.87

1600
1 Jack Schwartz 11 Wyoming 4:32.55
2 Johnny Giroux 12 Indian Hill 4:33.05
3 Nick Lake 10 Taylor 4:34.31
4 Chase Grauel 10 Taylor 4:34.47

3200
1 Ben Bayless 11 Indian Hill 9:52.89
2 Joe Murdock 12 Indian Hill 9:53.52
3 Ryan Estes 12 Clark Montes 9:54.76
4 Nick Fox 12 Taylor 9:59.99

Winton Woods D1
800
1 Alex Kelker 11 Lak. West 2:02.13
2 Izak Shroyer 12 Fairfield 2:02.47
3 David Williams 12 LaSalle 2:02.70
4 Mitch Luken 12 Oak Hills 2:02.81

1600
1 Dustin Horter 12 Lak. East 4:12.12
2 Alex Kelker 11 Lak. West 4:34.07
3 Drew Toon 12 Oak Hills 4:34.50
4 Nick Vogt 11 LaSalle 4:35.95
3200
1 Dustin Horter 12 Lak. East 9:10.34
2 Jason Middendorf 12 LaSalle 10:15.33
3 David Kraushar 11 Talawanda 10:16.67
4 Nick Merk 12 Elder 10:18.82

I did note the improvement in the D2 distance as well, and the decrease in the WW meet. However, my comments hold true when looking at the collective New Richmond D2 & D3 meets. I have ALL the regional qualifying marks out of those districts going back to the 1971 start of those meets, and back to 1923 when looking at the previous two classification district meets. I know ALL the historical data out of those districts, so I tend to look at past results vs. today out of habit.
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At-large spots

I would be interested to see how the at large spots favored. How many made it to finals? Did any end up on the podium? Or simply what places they ended up overall, like a break down of places of them 1-18 at the meet?
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I did note the improvement in the D2 distance as well, and the decrease in the WW meet. However, my comments hold true when looking at the collective New Richmond D2 & D3 meets. I have ALL the regional qualifying marks out of those districts going back to the 1971 start of those meets, and back to 1923 when looking at the previous two classification district meets. I know ALL the historical data out of those districts, so I tend to look at past results vs. today out of habit.
I have reviewed all of those results as well and have followed the D2 district in depth since 1999. I guess I would have to know which events caused you to feel such a deep decline has occurred.
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Yes, that is what I meant by "swept."
Sorry for the error Slip. Getting my head examined tomorrow.
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I would be interested to see how the at large spots favored. How many made it to finals? Did any end up on the podium? Or simply what places they ended up overall, like a break down of places of them 1-18 at the meet?
In case you didn’t happen upon it earlier, check the last few posts of this thread:
http://www.yappi.com/forums/showthre...=313136&page=3
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Sorry for the error Slip. Getting my head examined tomorrow.
No worries. My usage of “swept” was unconventional.
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Thanks for all of the work to break things down. It is much appreciated.
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