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Old 08-07-17, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by eastside_purple View Post
So you think Votto's real WAR is 12 right now? And without him, they would be worse than the 2013 Astros?
On this team, this year, Votto is probably worth 12 wins right now. The pitching is so horrendous that without Votto this Reds team may be the worst in MLB history.