St. Edward 2011
 

Snowy day, got a lot of work done, let's get moving with 2011.

Week 1: OPEN
Week 2: Saturday, Sept. 3rd 2 p.m. @ Penn Hills
Week 3: Saturday, Sept. 9th CARDINAL MOONEY 7 p.m.
Week 4: OPEN
Week 5: Saturday, Sept. 24th ELDER 7 p.m.
Week 6: OPEN
Week 7: Friday, Oct. 7th ST. FRANCIS DESALES 7:30 p.m.
Week 8: Saturday, Oct. 15th @ St. Xavier 2 p.m.
Week 9: Saturday, Oct. 22nd ARCHBISHOP MOELLER 2 p.m.
Week 10: Saturday, Oct. 29th ST. IGNATIUS 7 p.m.

Teams open week 1: Mayfield, SVSM
Teams open week 4: Massillon, Walsh Jesuit, Steubenville, Ryle (KY)
Teams open week 6: Massillon, Steubenville, Glen Mills (PA)

Note: Benedictine is off the schedule for the foreseeable future with their new league schedule.

A home/home with Stuebenville would be awesome!

What about Solon?

Mc Kinley?
 

I thought we were playing Mc Kinley the first game. What happened?

I'll try to find out more about it this Friday, when our basketball team has another home game. Right now, I'm getting a lot of "probably," "maybe" and "I don't know" from the people whom I ask.

I just have to ask the one person who would know for sure. I'll make sure to do that Friday.

We really need a home game for 2011. I'm sure Solon would be willing to do a home-and-home.

Rumor is McKinley and Glenville are playing in Week 1

I imagine it would only happen as a last resort. McQuaide has made it clear in the past that he prefers to wait until the playoffs to face the Catholic schools. Not really sure why. Solon has proven to be more than capable of competing in most years, and there are usually enough harbins to be had on their schedule to cope with a loss.

According to this, Solon only has week three open. Is there something wrong on there?

No. Our lone opening is Week 3. Euclid had been on the schedule for that week but apparently withdrew.

That's why I asked EagleFan if Mooney had been dropped from St. Edward's schedule, or if perhaps the game had been switched to a different week.

From what I heard last week (from reliable sources), Solon is trying to schedule St. Edward for Week 3. I have no idea what that means for St. Ed's scheduled game with Mooney that week. Maybe it's been moved to a different week, I really don't know.

I was told that a Solon-St. Edward matchup is likely, though not written in stone. It will probably be at Solon, though that's also not certain, and is a sticking point at this time. Solon needs a home game because the Comets are on the road weeks 1, 2, 5 and 6.

I'm aware that McQuaide has shied away from scheduling St. Ignatius or St. Edward in the past. Apparently, he's changed his mind, because #1 - he thinks Solon will be good enough to compete at that level in 2011, or #2 - he's come to the realization that the Comets will be better prepared for the playoffs if they play some elite teams during the regular season.

Also, Solon has had trouble lining up OOC opponents recently. That's why the Comets are playing Kilbourne in a home-and-home. Few local teams are willing to play Solon at this time.

It's pretty clear, IMO. He's coached at St Eds and knows the advantage that privates have. Lots of public schools are taking the same approach.

Yet despite all those advantages, he's done far, far better at a Public school than he ever did at two large Catholic schools.

I can understand the hesitancy of most public schools, but I find it silly for the ones who are well resourced (good coaching, community, and athletes), and whose conference schedules provide a wealth of harbins in the event of a loss. What is there to lose by signing a short term deal?

You know Solon is not a typical public HS. He would exactly as well at Dublin Coffman, or UA, Hilliard Davidson, etc with their similar model of success (to reference our great poster CatFan).



Add, decent enrollment, smart kids from two-parent homes, and a good tax base and you've got Solon and the schools above.

You put him at a sleeping giant like Solon was or I think Medina could be with the right coach and he'd do just as well; adding to my point to sehs95.

The problem with medina is the parents and boosters are notorious coach killers. They have had to much influence on who plays what position. Medina youth football is also in shambles with two different youth leagues due to a pissing match from years ago. Hopefuly this new coach can get the feeder system fixed and medina will have a perennial winner instead of what's happened for the previous 10 or so years.

Deonte Gibson is now considering other schools with the firing of Pitt head coach. The PD article mentioned Northwestern and UC.

St. Eds is no longer showing up on the 2011 schedule for DeSales: http://www.pouringpurple.com/Pouring_Purple/2011.html

Any Eds people have insight on this? My guess is after 62-0, we said no mas.

I thought someone had mentioned the Lakewood Rangers might be back on the Eagles schedule in the near future? Any chance of this happening next season or the following?

I would imagine Benedictine may be out too, since they joined the NCL.

That would be unfortunate, considering I was pretty certain DeSales owed us a home game.

If St. Edward can't get instate Catholic schools to schedule them, the Eagles may have a seven game schedule.

Not sure why DeSales would do that or why Eds would let them out of the contract. If true, not sure how we can get to 9 games. Canadians may be heading our way...

Mooney owes us a home game too and we may not play them either.

We now hold 7 of the top 9 most viewed threads in Yappi history.

1. St.Edward 2005 - Edge86 - 3,431 posts, 135,736 views (state semi-finals)
2. St.Edward 2004 - Edge86 - 4,226 posts, 108,110 views
3. St.Edward 2010 - EagleFan 2,000 posts, 95,637 views (state champions)
4. St.Edward 2007 - Edge86 - 1,650 posts, 95,045 views
5. St.Edward 2006 - Edge86 - 1,969 posts, 86,274 views
7. St.Edward 2003 - Edge86 - 3,149 posts 64,581 views (state runner-up)
9. St.Edward 2008 - Edge86 - ...735 posts 39,841 views

What a great experience 2010 has been. Congratulations to the players, students, coaches, parents, administration, teachers, supporters and alumni.

While repeating as champions is an uphill battle, we can enjoy the status of defending champions going into next season. it will be great to compete, regardless of the outcome in 2011. Nevertheless, go Eagles!

That said, I think this year has changed the fortunes of St. Ed. While no one pays 10K plus to send their kid to a private Catholic school just because they have or had a good football team, the success of this team has brought a significant amount of positive attention to the fine academic programs at St. Ed. Upon seeing my St. Ed pullover yesterday, a parent of a future high schooler commented to me that she watched the game on TV, thought it was great, and asked if I knew anything about the Engineering Program or the new IB degree program. Yes, word gets out.

They'll deny it, but Ignatius never got so smart until they suddenly started to win D1 football titles. They masterfully transferred the attention to their academic programs and the rest is history. They were suddenly "better" than everyone else. Coach Kyle's 10 titles are legendary, but they had a bigger effect on the perception, and yes, the reality of academic excellence. The Ignatius purists may deny the role of D1 football success, but I saw it play out firsthand in Westpark.

President Kubacki is transforming the school in a positive way that has not been seen in years. Coach Finotti brings that tough St. Joe mentality with a whole new commitment. In many ways the best thing that happened to St. Ed, is the marriage that continues with the old St. Joe folks. Go Vikings! :banana:

Win or lose, 2011 is going to be both fun and rewarding.

You say that based on what?

That St. Edward went to Mooney in 2010 and - as far as anyone knew - it was two year deal. Plus, it's even on this Mooney schedule.

Your thinking is warped (and your view of historic Ignatius "smartness" is off-base ;) ). The PR is better now, but I'd put the smartness of my mid 70's class up against any recent class.

You fall victim to the great logical fallacy: "post hoc ergo propter hac"...after the fact, therefore because of the fact. Ignatius wins football titles, the school's fortunes get better...ergo, the fortunes are better because of football.

I know some of your buds will now throw up their hands (screw them, btw), but you invited "us" in, so I'll offer my take.

Winning a football title is a great accomplishment, not just for the athletic program, but for the whole school community. Lots of good feeling results and there is an opportunity to build on it. But a quantum leap in the fortunes of the school isn't likely to come from this achievement. Take Elder's back to back state titles a few years back. The school appears to be weaker today than before that achievement. Maybe you can explain what happened to Elder. Of course, the answer is that, overall, those football titles didn't change the larger dynamics (bad neighborhood, departed alumni, diocesan leadership-not enough religious in the school).

Ignatius...let's go back to the 60's and the 70's. Joe's, 2200 students; Ed's, 1600-1700; Ignatius, 1200. We proceed through the 70's and 80's and most private schools dip precipitously (btw...Chuck Kyle isn't the football coach during this stretch). Joe's, over time, nearly is out of business. Ed's does better, but is about 60% of what it used to be. Ignatius remained steady during this big decline. Why? IMO, it's the presence of the Jesuits, a religious order that remains relatively strong and, over time, becomes THE brand in Catholic education. Meanwhile, the Marianists blow town (goodbye Latin, Joe's off to hospice care), the Holy Cross Brothers shrink into insignificance, causing major leadership issues @ St. Ed's (which only very recently seem to be resolving themselves...and, of course it has nothing to do with football).

So, we get to around 1990 and Ignatius is still around 1200; Ed's is below 1000 and St. Joe's is below 500. At this point, none of the sehs73's football "effects" have yet occurred. Then, the great Ignatius benefactor, Murlan Murphy, gives the school three buildings. That generosity had nothing to do with football.

St. Ed's once had the upper hand over Ignatius for north-west siders. For about a decade Ed's probably got more of the "better" kids. Then, Ignatius made the decision to stay, cleaned up its property and the trends mentioned above started to take over.

You mention West Park...I think your "take" on this is way off. First, let's acknowledge that, as far as Ed's and Ignatius are concerned, West Park is now a pretty small place (in terms of potential enrollees). I think I'm as familiar with West Park as you are. What do I see? Money is ruling the roost. West Parkers may feel an historic kinship to St. Ed's, but, with their paltry CPD salaries, they're following the money...vouchers for some, which Ed's can't compete with (not a Cleveland school) and financial aid (Ignatius has much more). So, you think an Ed's hoodie in the hood means big things are happening for Ed's. I see the hoodies too, and I think it may "turn" a few, but not enough to mean much.

So, overall, I think this...good extracurriculars help. Football is the pre-eminent extracurricular in Ohio schools. Win a lot of football games and there is a chance that it can be used as a springboard. Has good football helped SIHS (the institution) over the years? Yes, but not as much as you believe. If the underlying fundamentals weren't very good (the fundamentals that kept Ignatius steady from '70 to '90 while Ed's and Joe's dropped dramatically), it wouldn't matter, just like it hasn't mattered at Elder. Also, keep in mind that the poster boy is everything that any community could want in that role (Finotti could end up being that kind of guy as well).

I mentioned this a few months back. If St. Ed's incoming freshman class next year is up 30-40 kids, that would be a huge boost from the football success. To expect something more than that isn't realistic imo.

I'll hold you to that 30 increase. Taken together, your post confirms all my previously posted beliefs. Go Eagles. We're back and so is the rivalry!:Party:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAYwEk933wA

Kevin Burke Highlight video.

Give the Man A Scholarship!!!

Many spots where Boomer would have said "Whoooop"!

Pretty impressive when you consider all of the well known schools on the schedule!

Why post the cell phone number? I would screen all the calls..

One of the few advantages of being really old is the ability to detect revisionist history like the crap posted above. Back in the stone age when Ed's was the new kid on the block and the football playoff system was an unrealized dream, the academic excellence of my class at Ignatius was evidenced by the 99+% of grads who went on to college, typical of all the Ignatius classes in the four years I attended. Ed's then was the westside Catholic "trade" school, where considerably less than 50% of each year's class went on to college. There was no correlation whatsoever between academic excellence and football success ever at Ignatius. It was well established back then among Catholic parents on the westside that if they wanted their sons to attend college they sent them to Ignatius. While Ed's back then admitted anyone with a pulse who applied, Ignatius' entrance requirements were even more rigid than they are now, with only about a third of applicants being enrolled.

The gap in academic excellence between Ignatius and Ed's now is miniscule and the relative football success of the two schools had nothing to do with that. With an Ignatius grad manning the presidency of Ed's, I expect the academic achievement of Ed's to continue upward, irrrespective of the fortunes of the Eagles on the gridiron.