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UncleEd 01-10-18 12:28 AM

100 Wins...
 
I often see post congratulating wrestlers for earning the 100th win. Is that a tougher or easier accomplishment in the today’s environment than it was 15 -20 years ago? Big deal or not these days?

MPhillips 01-10-18 12:56 AM

I would say it's a great accomplishment no matter what. Greater 25-30 yrs ago than it is 15-20.

Gives you an idea and time frame.
http://www.ohsaa.org/sports/records/wrrecrd.htm#WC

darthmalice 01-10-18 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by UncleEd (Post 6959622)
I often see post congratulating wrestlers for earning the 100th win. Is that a tougher or easier accomplishment in the today’s environment than it was 15 -20 years ago? Big deal or not these days?

Easier accomplishment in today's environment because the opportunities are far more than 15- 20 years ago for a wrestler willing to put in the work to get better. You don't even have to leave home and spend $400 on a camp: A kid can just pull out the 10 by 10 mat in the garage and upload Youtube videos. 100 wins is always a big deal, unless you wrestle 100 bums and never made the podium.

wash.c.h.legend 01-10-18 02:41 AM

Easier today than when I wrestled for sure. We got about 30 matches or so max. Personally I hit the 100 mark exactly. It was tough. Tough today too, but for a different reason, better have some toughness to stick in 50-60 matches a year now.


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Iroquois 01-10-18 06:51 AM

I agree with others, great accomplishment no matter what !

Smoke Screen 01-10-18 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Iroquois (Post 6959665)
I agree with others, great accomplishment no matter what !

Excellent job using the font and color options to really drive home your point!:thumb:

FalconFan25 01-10-18 08:06 AM

I feel that 100 wins is a huge accomplishment. While i can't speak on whether it is "tougher or easier" than it was 15-20 years ago, I know that it does speak volumes about the student athletes dedication to the sport. As far as I know, it is extremely rare for a wrestler to reach 100 in 3 seasons. 100 wins primarily happens for hard working kids over the entire course of their HS career. There are many obstacles that kids can face in 4 years. Academic issues, family or monetary issues, injuries, etc. It is certainly something to be very proud of.

When looking at the state records, I don't quite understand how so many kids can wrestle 65 times in a season, let alone win that many. I do understand how the point system works so I suppose these kids are on teams that primarily wrestle in tournaments as opposed to duals? Ive always thought that 40(ish) matches per season was the norm. Either way, 100 wins is a ton and a great goal for young wrestlers to set for themselves.

4TimeFunk 01-10-18 08:10 AM

Just as hard as ever. The kid 25 years ago is wrestling just as hard to win/not lose as the kids today are. Everyone has access to the same knowledge in a sense. Great accomplishment

Something interesting, I remember one of my years in highschool I had around 40 wins or so by the state tournament, I remember seeing Troy opfer, with well over 60 if I'm not mistaken. There is a difference in scheduling and more matches means more wins today I guess there's a point there

speedthatkills 01-10-18 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by wash.c.h.legend (Post 6959644)
Easier today than when I wrestled for sure. We got about 30 matches or so max. Personally I hit the 100 mark exactly. It was tough. Tough today too, but for a different reason, better have some toughness to stick in 50-60 matches a year now.


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I agree the opportunity for more matches make it easier now, but I would also argue the talent pool is significantly deeper now that it was in the past as well as coaches now look for better competition to prepare wrestlers. In the end, I still think it is slightly easier now, but not as easy as many like to paint it to be(see previous posts in other threads that seem to dismiss some that hit the century mark). Regardless it is a great accomplishment and should be celebrated by all.

eyes r burning 01-10-18 09:31 AM

WAY EASIER! Opportunities are abundant with the major influx of dual meet tournaments where wrestlers are guaranteed 5 matches a day or 10 in a weekend. Teams are fielding fewer members.

I completely disagree with talent pool being deeper. The top end talent is as high as ever, but from a depth perspective, the mid level has less participants.

It's an accomplishment, but if you're 100-100 in your career, it's not as big of a deal.

Dad4Sports 01-10-18 05:53 PM

100 PINS is really something special...

cosh wrestling dad 01-10-18 09:36 PM

Our kids get between 35-45 matches a year. Some newer freshman may go 10and 30 or even 20 and 20 their freshman year that's still a long way from 100 with just 3 years left. Great accomplishment for most kids no matter how you stack it. IMO

Blast82.5 01-11-18 09:45 AM

While it is an accomplishment, IMO it is not what it used to be, and it varies GREATLY from program-to-program, and division-to-division.

Story: Before my son's Sr year, a wrestler friend of his was at our house and they asked me if my son had 100 wins. The answer was no ... he was around 85ish, and reached 100 during his Sr. year. He finished as a SC and 3X SP. His friend was incredulous ... he had more than 100 PINS and about 130 wins already, with one year left!

I'd say they faced significantly different levels of competition!

Other son was a 3X SQ, and did not have 100 wins unless you counted forfeits received. Had he wrestled the SMCC schedule of the early 2000's, he'd have had 175!

rjewards 01-11-18 11:03 AM

state champ erases number of victories everytime

brewerkz 01-11-18 05:23 PM

to get 100 wins roughly need

Varsity for 3 years
Win 75-80% of matches
Stay healthy

bucksman 01-11-18 05:58 PM

Here's a data-point. I just looked at the D1/145 state bracket from 2000 vs. last year and calculated the average record of the participants headed into the state tournament.

In 2000, the average record was 32-4 (36 matches total)
In 2017, the average record was 35-7 (42 matches total)

Keep in mind in the 2017, D1/145 weight class, you had three kids with 22-to-30 matches (two of those kids were injured part of the season, and a third didn't come out until mid-year because of state football run). 12 of the other 13 kids had over 40 bouts.

The difference between 42 matches prior to state and 36 is having 15% more matches in each season.

MPhillips 01-11-18 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by brewerkz (Post 6960805)
to get 100 wins roughly need

Varsity for 3 years
Win 75-80% of matches
Stay healthy


Have to wrestle at least 44 matches per year, for three years and win 75%.
Wonder how many that have 100 wins were also, 'Varsity' for 4 years?

wlpdrpat 01-12-18 06:15 AM

Looking at our schedule and assuming all full brackets at tournaments and getting a match at all duals if a wrestler were to win all their regular season matches they would be 33-0 going in to sectionals. Assuming the same but they lose their first match at each tournament and then win out then they would be 40-4. However the actual average is around 30 regular season matches. So, achieving 100 wins in a career is a heck of an accomplishment no matter how you cut it.


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