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SouthwestOhioGuy17 12-06-17 11:50 PM

Don Simpson Named Head Coach At Middletown
 
Middletown selects Princeton assistant to lead football program

http://www.journal-news.com/sports/p...LyBNwnfL2EYAP/

llthayes19 12-06-17 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by SouthwestOhioGuy17 (Post 6937725)
Middletown selects Princeton assistant to lead football program

http://www.journal-news.com/sports/p...LyBNwnfL2EYAP/

Donnie is a good friend of mine. Congrats to him! Personally I believe he should have got the CHCA job when Taylor left.

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Middie 85 Alum 12-07-17 07:15 AM

[QUOTE=llthayes19;6937726]Donnie is a good friend of mine. Congrats to him! Personally I believe he should have got the CHCA job when Taylor left.

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Since you know him very well, please fill in some of us that do not know him. What are his past accomplishments as an assistant coach that led to him getting a head coaching job other than he probably didnít have alot of coaches pounding down the door to take on the mess that he is coming into at Middletown? Why didnít CHCA believe he was worthy to be their head coach when they already knew him? Good thing for Coach Simpson is the bar isnít set high and it wonít take many wins to improve from the previous coachís lack of success. Good Luck Coach Simpson

llthayes19 12-07-17 08:28 AM

[QUOTE=Middie 85 Alum;6937761]
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Originally Posted by llthayes19 (Post 6937726)
Donnie is a good friend of mine. Congrats to him! Personally I believe he should have got the CHCA job when Taylor left.

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Since you know him very well, please fill in some of us that do not know him. What are his past accomplishments as an assistant coach that led to him getting a head coaching job other than he probably didnít have alot of coaches pounding down the door to take on the mess that he is coming into at Middletown? Why didnít CHCA believe he was worthy to be their head coach when they already knew him? Good thing for Coach Simpson is the bar isnít set high and it wonít take many wins to improve from the previous coachís lack of success. Good Luck Coach Simpson

Well defensively he loves 3-4, hopefully he's has the NG and speedy athletic LBs. When I first met him he was coaching at Norwood. Then he moved on to chca. Where he stayed for like six or seven years I believe. He was the defensive coordinator over there also. Had a pretty good run defensively. Those guys just couldn't get past Coldwater. Head coach Eric Taylor recommended him to become the head coach. But I guess they went a different direction and hired Eric Mueller. Who's also a good friend of mine. He had the head coaching experience. And I also put a few guys and two major d-1 schools in Columbus where he coached at. So I get the hire there. After that he went with Eric Taylor over to Deer Park and was also the defensive coordinator. Stayed one year and left to join Daniels at Princeton this past year. Where he was also the defensive coordinator. I know the expectations are not high at Middletown. But the City of Middletown has way too many athletes to a fallen off and two hard times like they have. I hope you can turn the page up there and get that program back to being at least respectable. Looks like they have a new gym in the new weight room. And are trying to continue to upgrade the athletic facilities. I wish him and Middletown the best of luck!

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HistoryTeacher 12-07-17 08:31 AM

Middletown picked a coach with no experience running a program to be the head coach of what they believe to be a big time division 1 head coaching job? A coach with no experience is stepping into a mess. This is a big head scratching hire in my mind and really puts the administration on a thin line after hiring Engleka-mess. That said I want to wish Coach Simpson luck and may you have more than 3 years to figure it out. Good luck to you.

Groundhog Day 12-07-17 08:45 AM

Agree with History Teacher on being a head scratcher (and then some). You had multiple coaches with not only Head Coaching experience and success with playoff experience as well as at least two college coaches wanting the job. Thought they wanted to hit it out of the park with the hire but on paper these seems heh. Not only no HC experience but coaching mostly at lower levels. Wish the guy luck because the GMC and Middletown needs to have Middie Magic back in some form.

BaBa au Rum 12-07-17 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Groundhog Day (Post 6937807)
Agree with History Teacher on being a head scratcher (and then some). You had multiple coaches with not only Head Coaching experience and success with playoff experience as well as at least two college coaches wanting the job. Thought they wanted to hit it out of the park with the hire but on paper these seems heh. Not only no HC experience but coaching mostly at lower levels. Wish the guy luck because the GMC and Middletown needs to have Middie Magic back in some form.

At the town meeting, parents stressed that they wanted a coach that "looks like their kids and can relate to their kids." No mention of the "best or most qualified coach." No mention of building a program, or competitive team.

I don't know him personally, but I hear he's a good assistant. The same people that told me that, said they weren't sure how he would do as a head coach. There is a lot that goes into being the face of the program, besides play calling. It's also a long way from CHCA. Not just from a D5 t o D1, but a whole different culture. At a CHCA you pretty much just coach. At a Middletown, you take on a lot more of a parent role. Picking kids up and taking them home. Some times making sure they eat. And making sure they are eligible!

This job will be open again in the next couple years because the people in charge let parents dictate who gets hired!

Knights Watch 12-07-17 11:23 AM

[QUOTE=llthayes19;6937795]
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Originally Posted by Middie 85 Alum (Post 6937761)
Head coach Eric Taylor recommended him to become the head coach.

When the Dillon Panthers 2x Texas State Champion coach recommends, you hire!

llthayes19 12-07-17 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by HistoryTeacher (Post 6937801)
Middletown picked a coach with no experience running a program to be the head coach of what they believe to be a big time division 1 head coaching job? A coach with no experience is stepping into a mess. This is a big head scratching hire in my mind and really puts the administration on a thin line after hiring Engleka-mess. That said I want to wish Coach Simpson luck and may you have more than 3 years to figure it out. Good luck to you.

Not to be funny guys, but if I'm a head coach with any experience. I know that the Middletown isn't a good job. My question as a head coach would be, what does Middletown have to offer me? From the stories I've heard, most of the kids are more interested in the streets. Also that most of the best athletes can stay eligible and most of all dealing with town and adminstration that has a false since of with the football program really is. Middletown used to be a big-time steel town. They still have AK Steel but it's not the same as it used to be. Kind of the same way Youngstown Ohio went downhill. No one's moving into Middletown because of the job market or the textiles. And also it's becoming more known for heroin addicts then student-athletes going to college. Trust me if I'm a head coach I don't want that job. However my friend Donnie Simpson is from Warren Ohio. Basically from the hood and grew up in the situation that he is now facing as a head coach in Middletown. Personally I think Middletown is a "Dead man walking" type of job. But he still young and ambitious with a plan that he believes that will turn their program around. I wish him well!

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llthayes19 12-07-17 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by BaBa au Rum (Post 6937961)
At the town meeting, parents stressed that they wanted a coach that "looks like their kids and can relate to their kids." No mention of the "best or most qualified coach." No mention of building a program, or competitive team.

I don't know him personally, but I hear he's a good assistant. The same people that told me that, said they weren't sure how he would do as a head coach. There is a lot that goes into being the face of the program, besides play calling. It's also a long way from CHCA. Not just from a D5 t o D1, but a whole different culture. At a CHCA you pretty much just coach. At a Middletown, you take on a lot more of a parent role. Picking kids up and taking them home. Some times making sure they eat. And making sure they are eligible!

This job will be open again in the next couple years because the people in charge let parents dictate who gets hired!

I agree on all points!

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FreeFromGreen 12-07-17 12:03 PM

as a CHCA fan, I can let you know that Coach Simpson is A) first class and B) knows football and C) has put in his time to learn from some great coaches

I don't know much about Middletown program or the problems there, but Simpson will be a man of character to lead that program.

BaBa au Rum 12-07-17 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by FreeFromGreen (Post 6938000)
as a CHCA fan, I can let you know that Coach Simpson is A) first class and B) knows football and C) has put in his time to learn from some great coaches

I don't know much about Middletown program or the problems there, but Simpson will be a man of character to lead that program.


Besides Taylor, who else has he worked for that is a great coach?

As for knowing football. I hear he's never coached an offense position. I would think a head coaching candidate would know all 3 phases of the game as well as have a proven record of organization, been involved in fundraising and supervising people.

llthayes19 12-07-17 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by BaBa au Rum (Post 6938011)
Besides Taylor, who else has he worked for that is a great coach?

As for knowing football. I hear he's never coached an offense position. I would think a head coaching candidate would know all 3 phases of the game as well as have a proven record of organization, been involved in fundraising and supervising people.

Marvin Lewis was never an offensive or special teams coordinator...just saying!

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BaBa au Rum 12-07-17 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by llthayes19 (Post 6938021)
Marvin Lewis was never an offensive or special teams coordinator...just saying!

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:Ohno: Not sure why I'm responding to this.

Exactly! And look how well he's done.

Lewis also had 20+ years as an assistant or DC. He was also the associate head coach at Washington. He also worked for Bill Cowher, Billick and Spurrier. All very successful head coaches. SUPER BOWL or NATIONAL CHAMPION coaches!

CHCA the best program Simpson been at and they never made it out the region! And that includes having an athlete recruited in, who now play for Alabama, like Prince!

You clownin cus!

natihsfan 12-07-17 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BaBa au Rum (Post 6937961)
At the town meeting, parents stressed that they wanted a coach that "looks like their kids and can relate to their kids."

Its too bad that is the criteria, lord knows there are examples of coaches who may fit this but have done great things for the kids and the community.

llthayes19 12-07-17 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BaBa au Rum (Post 6938051)
:Ohno: Not sure why I'm responding to this.

Exactly! And look how well he's done.

Lewis also had 20+ years as an assistant or DC. He was also the associate head coach at Washington. He also worked for Bill Cowher, Billick and Spurrier. All very successful head coaches. SUPER BOWL or NATIONAL CHAMPION coaches!

CHCA the best program Simpson been at and they never made it out the region! And that includes having an athlete recruited in, who now play for Alabama, like Prince!

You clownin cus!

I guess my point was for a guy who's never coached High oh, coached the offensive side of the ball side of the ball and starting his career at Idaho state. And now holds one of the only 32 positions in the NFL apparently you don't need to have OC experience get a head coach job. And as far as the Prince kids he would have been a commodity on measurables alone even at Lockland High School.

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FreeFromGreen 12-07-17 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BaBa au Rum (Post 6938051)
:Ohno: Not sure why I'm responding to this.

Exactly! And look how well he's done.

Lewis also had 20+ years as an assistant or DC. He was also the associate head coach at Washington. He also worked for Bill Cowher, Billick and Spurrier. All very successful head coaches. SUPER BOWL or NATIONAL CHAMPION coaches!

CHCA the best program Simpson been at and they never made it out the region! And that includes having an athlete recruited in, who now play for Alabama, like Prince!

You clownin cus!

other than 2014...when CHCA won the region

Journey 12-07-17 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by FreeFromGreen (Post 6938136)
other than 2014...when CHCA won the region

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winbypin 12-07-17 03:00 PM

"you clowin cus" LOL

BaBa au Rum 12-07-17 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by FreeFromGreen (Post 6938136)
other than 2014...when CHCA won the region

You right, you right. The year they squeked by #8 Waynesville. Won the region then got blown out by state champion Coldwater.

BaBa au Rum 12-07-17 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by llthayes19 (Post 6938062)
I guess my point was for a guy who's never coached High oh, coached the offensive side of the ball side of the ball and starting his career at Idaho state. And now holds one of the only 32 positions in the NFL apparently you don't need to have OC experience get a head coach job. And as far as the Prince kids he would have been a commodity on measurables alone even at Lockland High School.

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I can't even decipher this.

We can just revisit this thread in a few years and see.

llthayes19 12-07-17 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BaBa au Rum (Post 6938210)
I can't even decipher this.

We can just revisit this thread in a few years and see.

I guess we can a few years later. But if he fails it won't be because doesn't know the game. Its a dead end job in my opinion anyway.

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BaBa au Rum 12-07-17 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by llthayes19 (Post 6938220)
I guess we can a few years later. But if he fails it won't be because doesn't know the game. Its a dead end job in my opinion anyway.

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That we can agree on!

llthayes19 12-07-17 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by BaBa au Rum (Post 6938225)
That we can agree on!

My man!!

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firehawk 12-07-17 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by FreeFromGreen (Post 6938136)
other than 2014...when CHCA won the region

Don't forget 2005 either. CHCA made it to the state championship game that year losing a shootout to Patrick Henry.

lotr10 12-07-17 07:58 PM

You won't know what you got until after a couple of years. But why not be optimistic? When Grippa left Fairfield to coach LS we hired an unknown assistant coach with NO head coaching experience and there was some grumblings. But the unknown guy was Scott Datillo and he's done alright for himself. After Datillo left to coach Sycamore FF hired back to back guys with head coaching experience and it didn't work out so good as the Indians went 2 - 28 over those 3 years. The moral of the story is: give the guy a chance and his lack of head coaching experience may be the best thing for you guys. Only time will tell.

Muskie3 12-07-17 08:26 PM

I say give the guy a chance. Maybe what we need is a new fresh mind in there. Just because you have been a head coach for 10 years doesnít make you a better coach, especially if you have been unsuccessful. Just means you have 10 years experience doing it wrong lol. Really,....what have we got to lose ? When you are at the bottom, you canít get any worse.

Middie 85 Alum 12-07-17 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by llthayes19 (Post 6937980)
Not to be funny guys, but if I'm a head coach with any experience. I know that the Middletown isn't a good job. My question as a head coach would be, what does Middletown have to offer me? From the stories I've heard, most of the kids are more interested in the streets. Also that most of the best athletes can stay eligible and most of all dealing with town and adminstration that has a false since of with the football program really is. Middletown used to be a big-time steel town. They still have AK Steel but it's not the same as it used to be. Kind of the same way Youngstown Ohio went downhill. No one's moving into Middletown because of the job market or the textiles. And also it's becoming more known for heroin addicts then student-athletes going to college. Trust me if I'm a head coach I don't want that job. However my friend Donnie Simpson is from Warren Ohio. Basically from the hood and grew up in the situation that he is now facing as a head coach in Middletown. Personally I think Middletown is a "Dead man walking" type of job. But he still young and ambitious with a plan that he believes that will turn their program around. I wish him well!

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Hayes I agree with you. The administration has not have much luck in selecting a head football coach and I am hoping they decided to select a coach a 180 degrees from the priorities they were using in the past. I hope Coach Simpsonís
passion and his communication skills allow him to mold and motivate the young men to not only be successful on the field but also in life. GO MIDDIES

Middie 85 Alum 12-07-17 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Muskie3 (Post 6938401)
I say give the guy a chance. Maybe what we need is a new fresh mind in there. Just because you have been a head coach for 10 years doesnít make you a better coach, especially if you have been unsuccessful. Just means you have 10 years experience doing it wrong lol. Really,....what have we got to lose ? When you are at the bottom, you canít get any worse.

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Muskie I could not have said it better. You are 100% right. I hope Coach Simpson is able to get some decent assistant coaches that can help him get on the right foot. I also hope he is given more time than with past because this carasuel of disaster needs to reverse its direction even if it is slow moving, but in the right direction.

Spartan0505 12-07-17 10:30 PM

[QUOTE=Knights Watch;6937972]
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Originally Posted by llthayes19 (Post 6937795)

When the Dillon Panthers 2x Texas State Champion coach recommends, you hire!


Amen!


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