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Lynus24 10-30-17 10:12 AM

2018 Louisville Leopards
 
The 2017 season has ended, equipment will be turned in today, and for me it's time to look towards 2018. Pivotal time in the history of our program. No league to fall back on, probable coaching changes, new AD....lots to discuss.

Football 101 10-30-17 11:33 AM

sigh

well Lynus there is no denying the timing of what you are saying.

All I can look to is the fact that 3 BOE seats are open. Once those are voted on and in place - I would imagine the district can plan their direction from there.

of all the things that has gone down in the district....for some odd reason the AD hire still baffles me

Lynus24 10-30-17 12:13 PM

Yeah...I'm not sure what they saw in that resume that gave them the impression that this was the one that could find us a new home. That would have been first and foremost qualification that I would looked for. I was hoping that 2 years in independent limbo was what we were looking at....now I'm not so sure.

old man 54 10-30-17 01:05 PM

Lots of talent coming up in the ranks...however as has been said repeatedly, changes at a minimum are needed with the defensive staff and scheme we play. A new head coach would be a bonus. My worst fear is Demarco will retire, and the D coordinator gets promoted from within and thus, nothing will change.

Will be interesting to see what happens at QB next year.. I would have to say stick with Jones as Mathie can play other positions, but not sure Jones can. The offense puts up points and not a bad season overall on that side of the ball.. The D is a whole different story.

MINFAN 10-30-17 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Lynus24 (Post 6892192)
Yeah...I'm not sure what they saw in that resume that gave them the impression that this was the one that could find us a new home. That would have been first and foremost qualification that I would looked for. I was hoping that 2 years in independent limbo was what we were looking at....now I'm not so sure.

It was sad to see Louisville for the last time on the gridiron. However, ultimately this could be a good situation for Louisville if they can get in a league soon. Louisville in a football league with Dover, New Philadelphia, Canfield, CCC, Lake (the Fed is out growing them) would be a good situation for all fo them. There has to be other schools looking for a more competitive situation. There has to be a way to get something formed that will suit them?? I would hope the AD there is already searching for better options than being independent. I hope the Leps can find a home.

Football 101 10-30-17 01:17 PM

well Lynus let's be realistic

The fed would be a good move in many ways, but there are some glaring ways it would not be.

What are the real options out there? Sure we could all spit ideal league setups but there is one huge problem, the other schools.

So what will that gal cook up? Has the PTC been explored - I did notice their Metro division is filled with D3 football schools - which would all never schedule Louisville

seems like independent schedule is here for more than 2 years - yuck!!!!!

Minfan - only thing I see right now is the new EBC has to start and schools like Minerva need to recognize (which it seems you have) that just booting Louisville as not the fix they need. When the EBC splits and schools like Marlington and Alliance need to group with schools more their size then Louisville will have an option. Until then get used to Balderson and Whitting to run up 50 points on everyone they can in the league moving forward.

Maxie 10-30-17 03:26 PM

Looking forward to the ninth week of 2018 as the Tigers take on the Leopards for the first time in history. In the past, I have attended a couple games in Louisville. Certainly enjoyed myself.

Lynus24 10-30-17 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Maxie (Post 6892532)
Looking forward to the ninth week of 2018 as the Tigers take on the Leopards for the first time in history. In the past, I have attended a couple games in Louisville. Certainly enjoyed myself.

I'm looking forward to that one too. The junior classes had an epic battle as freshmen...one of the best freshmen games I've seen.

Maxie 10-30-17 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Lynus24 (Post 6892557)
I'm looking forward to that one too. The junior classes had an epic battle as freshmen...one of the best freshmen games I've seen.


Agreed. By the way, the Leopards are scheduled to visit PBTS in 2019. Again, the ninth game.

Lynus24 10-30-17 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Maxie (Post 6892565)
Agreed. By the way, the Leopards are scheduled to visit PBTS in 2019. Again, the ninth game.

Probably be more room at your place

sam the butcher 10-30-17 04:46 PM

With no league affiliation, other than Massillon, what does your schedule look like so far?

Leopard4life 10-30-17 04:53 PM

This is what I have heard, I am not in the mix in any way, but This was the schedule I was told by a school employee. On a side note, with South Range out, every EBC team has an open date, and I would hope to see Alliance back on the schedule. Would love another shot at Salem after their act this year.

1- Canfield
2- Green
3- Hoover
4- Lake
5 - PA team
6- Open
7- Open
8- Walsh Jes
9- Mass
10- CCC

Mr. Slippery 10-30-17 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Leopard4life (Post 6892653)
This is what I have heard, I am not in the mix in any way, but This was the schedule I was told by a school employee. On a side note, with South Range out, every EBC team has an open date, and I would hope to see Alliance back on the schedule. Would love another shot at Salem after their act this year.

1- Canfield
2- Green
3- Hoover
4- Lake
5 - PA team
6- Open
7- Open
8- Walsh Jes
9- Mass
10- CCC

Interesting and very challenging. Such is life as an independent.

AFAIK, the NCL Blue Division will still have an even number of teams in 2018, so I would wonder about a week 8 game with Walsh Jesuit. NCL Blue league play generally covers weeks 6-10.

Ville-ified 10-30-17 05:51 PM

I thought Jackson was on some previous versions of our possible schedule. They would fit in the week 8 slot.

Mr. Slippery 10-30-17 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Ville-ified (Post 6892737)
I thought Jackson was on some previous versions of our possible schedule. They would fit in the week 8 slot.

Jackson would fit, but CCC signed them for 4 years. 2018 is year 3 of that contract. IIRC, the Fed league schedule rotates every 4 years, so Jackson's nonleague week would shift to week 9, and GlenOak's would shift to week 8 for the 2020 season.

Incidentally, Louisville's current 2018 varsity schedule on arbiter shows:

week 1: (I would assume Canfield)
week 2: (I would assume Hoover)
week 3: Green
week 4: Lake
week 5: at Perry
week 6:
week 7:
week 8:
week 9: Massillon
week 10: It doesn't show it, but I'm rather certain the Leps and CCC are playing

kingpin2010 10-30-17 06:11 PM

Howland will be an independent starting in 2019 as well so that seems like a natural matchup

Lynus24 10-30-17 06:12 PM

The last schedule I saw didn't have Walsh or the PA team on it so that's news to me. Gotta kinda wonder why Hoover and Green are in the first 3 weeks of the season when it's easy to find games, rather than on their fed buy week. I believe Perry is on there somewhere.

Not much room to get acclimated with that schedule, gonna need a leader who can hit the ground running. Lots of talented skill guys back...not a concern....defensive fundamentals and an offensive line is our only hope for success.

MINFAN 10-30-17 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leopard4life (Post 6892653)
This is what I have heard, I am not in the mix in any way, but This was the schedule I was told by a school employee. On a side note, with South Range out, every EBC team has an open date, and I would hope to see Alliance back on the schedule. Would love another shot at Salem after their act this year.

1- Canfield
2- Green
3- Hoover
4- Lake
5 - PA team
6- Open
7- Open
8- Walsh Jes
9- Mass
10- CCC



Most of the EBC teams have the Louisville slot filled, the Minerva school website has River View scheduled for that week in 2018. I donít think there will be an issue filling that spot for the EBC- just may have to travel 85 miles like Minerva will to Warsaw Riverview in 2018. That may be the situation for Louisville on the next couple of years...


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MINFAN 10-30-17 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Football 101 (Post 6892327)
well Lynus let's be realistic

The fed would be a good move in many ways, but there are some glaring ways it would not be.

What are the real options out there? Sure we could all spit ideal league setups but there is one huge problem, the other schools.

So what will that gal cook up? Has the PTC been explored - I did notice their Metro division is filled with D3 football schools - which would all never schedule Louisville

seems like independent schedule is here for more than 2 years - yuck!!!!!

Minfan - only thing I see right now is the new EBC has to start and schools like Minerva need to recognize (which it seems you have) that just booting Louisville as not the fix they need. When the EBC splits and schools like Marlington and Alliance need to group with schools more their size then Louisville will have an option. Until then get used to Balderson and Whitting to run up 50 points on everyone they can in the league moving forward.



I agree- getting rid of Louisville didnít help anyone - especially Alliance and Marlington- they will be the only D3 teams In the league of West Branch doesnít get bumped due to competitive balance- Yea Minerva playing Riverview gives us a better chance to win- but playing at the awesome venue in Louisville will be missed.. I really do think Louisville would have had to leave at some point to get the program to the next level and make better showing in the playoffs, I just think the timing Is bad and the way it was done is worse- they should have been able to leave on their own accord


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Mr. Slippery 10-30-17 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by MINFAN (Post 6892837)
Most of the EBC teams have the Louisville slot filled, the Minerva school website has River View scheduled for that week in 2018. I donít think there will be an issue filling that spot for the EBC- just may have to travel 85 miles like Minerva will to Warsaw Riverview in 2018. That may be the situation for Louisville on the next couple of years...


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Carrollton filled its week 7 out of league opening with Canton CC.

Mr. Slippery 10-30-17 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by MINFAN (Post 6892837)
Most of the EBC teams have the Louisville slot filled, the Minerva school website has River View scheduled for that week in 2018. I donít think there will be an issue filling that spot for the EBC- just may have to travel 85 miles like Minerva will to Warsaw Riverview in 2018. That may be the situation for Louisville on the next couple of years...


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The big school division of the ECOL only has 5 teams, so teams like Dover, New Philly, Zanesville, Cambridge, and Marietta could be future candidates to fill weeks 6-8, and there are always the likes of Steubenville, Mooney, Ursuline, and St. V. who are always looking for games. Heck, Louisville might even be able to convince Steubenville to come to their place.

MINFAN 10-30-17 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Slippery (Post 6892875)
The big school division of the ECOL only has 5 teams, so teams like Dover, New Philly, Zanesville, Cambridge, and Marietta could be future candidates to fill weeks 6-8, and there are always the likes of Steubenville, Mooney, Ursuline, and St. V. who are always looking for games. Heck, Louisville might even be able to convince Steubenville to come to their place.



I really think this will work out for the best for Louisville football- I know this is a football forum but there are a boatload or other sports that hard to play and an independent...


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Mr. Slippery 10-30-17 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by MINFAN (Post 6892898)
I really think this will work out for the best for Louisville football- I know this is a football forum but there are a boatload or other sports that hard to play and an independent...


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Many of the EBC schools might still choose to play Louisville in the other sports since the outcomes won't affect those schools' efforts to win league titles. I was told one of the major reasons the other schools wanted away from Louisville was because Louisville has won something like 75% of the league titles in all sports over the past 5-7 years.

Just going by experience over at Canton CC who has been independent for a long time, football scheduling is always a challenge, but the local teams are willing to play CCC in most of the fringe sports.

MINFAN 10-30-17 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Slippery (Post 6892908)
Many of the EBC schools might still choose to play Louisville in the other sports since the outcomes won't affect those schools' efforts to win league titles. I was told one of the major reasons the other schools wanted away from Louisville was because Louisville has won something like 75% of the league titles in all sports over the past 5-7 years.



Just going by experience over at Canton CC who has been independent for a long time, football scheduling is always a challenge, but the local teams are willing to play CCC in most of the fringe sports.



That makes sense- still sticks that the kids canít play for a league title or even be a spoiler in other sports..


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TriangleMan 10-30-17 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Leopard4life (Post 6892653)
This is what I have heard, I am not in the mix in any way, but This was the schedule I was told by a school employee. On a side note, with South Range out, every EBC team has an open date, and I would hope to see Alliance back on the schedule. Would love another shot at Salem after their act this year.

1- Canfield
2- Green
3- Hoover
4- Lake
5 - PA team
6- Open
7- Open
8- Walsh Jes
9- Mass
10- CCC

From a CCC fan - just be sure to never put a PA team in week 10!

dig it 10-30-17 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Slippery (Post 6892908)

Just going by experience over at Canton CC who has been independent for a long time, football scheduling is always a challenge, but the local teams are willing to play CCC in most of the fringe sports.

It's not going to be hard for the EBC teams to fill one or two games, but Louisville will have their hands full filling 7 or 14 games. But as bad as that will be, the real headache will be finding middle school games. When I used to coach jr hi BB Louisville always seemed to be late getting to our place because they always had to wait for a bus to get back from its daily route. Carrollton was probably their longest trip, but future middle school scheduling could be a real headache. Hopefully the busing situation is better than it was 15 years ago. Also hope they are able to fill all the jr hi slots.

Lion 86 10-30-17 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MINFAN (Post 6892848)
I agree- getting rid of Louisville didn’t help anyone - especially Alliance and Marlington- they will be the only D3 teams In the league of West Branch doesn’t get bumped due to competitive balance- Yea Minerva playing Riverview gives us a better chance to win- but playing at the awesome venue in Louisville will be missed.. I really do think Louisville would have had to leave at some point to get the program to the next level and make better showing in the playoffs, I just think the timing Is bad and the way it was done is worse- they should have been able to leave on their own accord


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So why did Minerva vote to rid of Louisville too? Why decide this EBC is a wise move? Then we schedule River View! What is going on with this program? I apologize for being real and don’t want to hurt any feelings with an 0-30 staff!!! Schedule River View so we might win a game, embarrassing! Thinking small is our path I guess.

MINFAN 10-30-17 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lion 86 (Post 6893032)
So why did Minerva vote to rid of Louisville too? Why decide this EBC is a wise move? Then we schedule River View! What is going on with this program?



I wish I were a fly on the wall in those meetings to see what really happened. But what if Minerva voted no - would the remaining 6 teams have another secret meeting to get Rid of both of them? Riverview is a d4 opponent just finishing 0-10 so it is a better chance to get a win. So I guess we can look at it that wayó that could be the best chance for a win next year?? United may be ok- sandy Valley has a good frosh qb and are young, Indian Valley is mostly juniors and will be even better next year and Minerva will actually be really young in 2018, will probably be playing 6 or 7 sophomores.. thatís a long ways out and lots of speculation- letís hope some fire comes back to the program - last Fridayís game was actually a good start- the boys played hard


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Lynus24 10-31-17 07:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Football 101 (Post 6892327)
well Lynus let's be realistic

The fed would be a good move in many ways, but there are some glaring ways it would not be.

What are the real options out there? Sure we could all spit ideal league setups but there is one huge problem, the other schools.

So what will that gal cook up? Has the PTC been explored - I did notice their Metro division is filled with D3 football schools - which would all never schedule Louisville

seems like independent schedule is here for more than 2 years - yuck!!!!!

Minfan - only thing I see right now is the new EBC has to start and schools like Minerva need to recognize (which it seems you have) that just booting Louisville as not the fix they need. When the EBC splits and schools like Marlington and Alliance need to group with schools more their size then Louisville will have an option. Until then get used to Balderson and Whitting to run up 50 points on everyone they can in the league moving forward.

When you look at some of these existing conferences I think the top 2-3 schools in those conferences might be ok with Louisville...it would be the other 4-5 that would likely not want us. Except the Fed of course.

My hope was for an experienced AD with a long resume and a real understanding of how to get things done...a deal maker. Somebody who could easily sell schools like Philly and Dover and CCC that together they could get something done. Someone that could sell Alliance and Marlington that the EBC has nothing for them, and even pressure schools like Lake and Green that there might be something better out there. for me nothing would be off the table until something got done. We'll see what she gets done, but independent isn't the long term solution.

I am looking forward to some new challenges on the schedule next season. It's going to be fun to see if the crowds and atmosphere change. Seems like the NBC was getting a little stale when it came to the fans. There was about 50 kids in our student section last week...a far cry from what it was even 10 years ago.

y2h 10-31-17 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Lynus24 (Post 6893225)
When you look at some of these existing conferences I think the top 2-3 schools in those conferences might be ok with Louisville...it would be the other 4-5 that would likely not want us. Except the Fed of course.

My hope was for an experienced AD with a long resume and a real understanding of how to get things done...a deal maker. Somebody who could easily sell schools like Philly and Dover and CCC that together they could get something done. Someone that could sell Alliance and Marlington that the EBC has nothing for them, and even pressure schools like Lake and Green that there might be something better out there. for me nothing would be off the table until something got done. We'll see what she gets done, but independent isn't the long term solution.

I am looking forward to some new challenges on the schedule next season. It's going to be fun to see if the crowds and atmosphere change. Seems like the NBC was getting a little stale when it came to the fans. There was about 50 kids in our student section last week...a far cry from what it was even 10 years ago.

Lake and Green are fine in the Fed...hopefully Louisville wakes up and realizes its where they belong too.


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