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Yappi 08-09-17 02:24 PM

Alcohol use, abuse on the rise in the United States
 
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Rates of drinking and alcohol abuse are increasing in the United States, especially among certain groups of people, a new study suggests.

"These increases constitute a public health crisis that may have been overshadowed by increases in much less prevalent substance use [marijuana, opiates and heroin] during the same period," the study authors wrote.

Bridget Grant, of the U.S. National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism, and colleagues found that the rate of alcohol use in the United States was 65 percent in 2
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https://www.upi.com/Health_News/2017...6901502304216/

OhioBobcatFan06 08-09-17 02:48 PM

Bridget sounds lame.

clarkgriswold 08-09-17 03:18 PM

Posting while impaired is definitely up on Yappi.com.

EagleGuy 08-09-17 05:40 PM

Let's hope that's what it is. :p

Raider6309 08-09-17 06:35 PM

I'm sure Athens or Morgantown are #1 :Party:

EagleGuy 08-09-17 08:46 PM

Going on my recollections of recent news stores here:

Millennials drink less than predecessor groups (gen x, boomers, traditional).

About four times as many people die in the U.S. each year from alcohol (~80K) as opiates(~20K).

Not that any of this is good.

ronnie mund 08-09-17 09:28 PM

"Yeah but weed is the real drug we should be worried about!"

Raider6309 08-09-17 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ronnie mund (Post 6803749)
"Yeah but weed is the real drug we should be worried about!"

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cabezadecaballo 08-11-17 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by ronnie mund (Post 6803749)
"Yeah but weed is the real drug we should be worried about!"

Ronnie always ready to fight for his right to pa-a-arrty!!

Neopolitan 08-11-17 09:55 AM

Another substance big gov Cabe thinks we need the government to protect us from.

Descartes 08-11-17 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by ronnie mund (Post 6803749)
"Yeah but weed is the real drug we should be worried about!"

But it's illegal, it must be far more dangerous than alcohol or prescription drugs

eastisbest 08-11-17 04:27 PM

At least I don't have to smell the neighbor's booze while sitting on the porch trying to enjoy the day. (yes, we've had this discussion where others have told me it can't possibly be bothersome.)

A lot of these "on the rise" scares, aren't they just better reporting? That's what I think.

ronnie mund 08-11-17 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by eastisbest (Post 6804778)
At least I don't have to smell the neighbor's booze while sitting on the porch trying to enjoy the day.

Yup, you just have to worry about the thousands of drunk driving fatalities that occur every year.

eastisbest 08-12-17 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by ronnie mund (Post 6804979)
Yup, you just have to worry about the thousands of drunk driving fatalities that occur every year.

Not one of them has hit anywhere near my porch. What I posted was a reality. What you posted is a long probability. Either could affect me as I drive.

Is it your proposal that relaxed laws on public or private use of mj will somehow reduce those fatalities? Not sure you're making a point here.

TylerDurden 08-12-17 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by eastisbest (Post 6804778)
At least I don't have to smell the neighbor's booze while sitting on the porch trying to enjoy the day. (yes, we've had this discussion where others have told me it can't possibly be bothersome.)

A lot of these "on the rise" scares, aren't they just better reporting? That's what I think.

Actually the discussion was you claiming you could be impaired while sitting in your house from your neighbor smoking, and you claiming it would stink up an entire neighborhood for blocks. To the point you're making now, when my neighbor smoke a cigarette, has a fire, sprays deer off, etc. I can smell it, but you won't see me whining about it.

cabezadecaballo 08-12-17 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Neopolitan (Post 6804534)
Another substance big gov Cabe thinks we need the government to protect us from.

Leave it to Neop the simpleton to over-simplify.....again....

I don't care about people turning themselves into useless basement dwellers. I just want my government to protect me from having to support useless humans. They obviously aren't going to do that, so yeah, I'll settle for keeping dope illegal.

cabezadecaballo 08-12-17 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by eastisbest (Post 6805029)
Not one of them has hit anywhere near my porch. What I posted was a reality. What you posted is a long probability. Either could affect me as I drive.

Is it your proposal that relaxed laws on public or private use of mj will somehow reduce those fatalities? Not sure you're making a point here.

I actually had a drunk driver knock a porch right off a rental once.

My parents best friends were killed in a head-on by a drunk.


Pot seems more likely to cause highway rear-end collisions if someone stops too quick ahead for a timely reaction, but they'll likely take the back roads when baked.

TylerDurden 08-12-17 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by cabezadecaballo (Post 6805063)
Leave it to Neop the simpleton to over-simplify.....again....

I don't care about people turning themselves into useless basement dwellers. I just want my government to protect me from having to support useless humans. They obviously aren't going to do that, so yeah, I'll settle for keeping dope illegal.

That's the type of response I'd expect from someone who's a big government conservative that voted for Obama twice.

cabezadecaballo 08-12-17 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by TylerDurden (Post 6805073)
That's the type of response I'd expect from someone who's a big government conservative that voted for Obama twice.

Hey - you showed up right on cue!!

Hard to find a bigger simpleton than your brand of selective libertarianism. No way that everyone should have the right to get all smoked up if they don't also have the right to starve to death.

Right now, we selectively enforce pot laws. "Responsible law-breakers" can enjoy their dope for the most part, and we can drop the hammer on f_-ups. It seems to work well enough. :shrug:

cabezadecaballo 08-12-17 08:42 AM

This is an alcohol thread, btw....

TylerDurden 08-12-17 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by cabezadecaballo (Post 6805082)
Hey - you showed up right on cue!!

Hard to find a bigger simpleton than your brand of selective libertarianism. No way that everyone should have the right to get all smoked up if they don't also have the right to starve to death.

Right now, we selectively enforce pot laws. "Responsible law-breakers" can enjoy their dope for the most part, and we can drop the hammer on f_-ups. It seems to work well enough. :shrug:

Where did I make any comment regarding welfare or letting people support themselves? The only one here with a selective political ideology is the guy using his opposition to big gov't handouts as justification for a big gov't war on drugs. Again, exactly what I would expect from someone with your history.

Neopolitan 08-12-17 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by cabezadecaballo (Post 6805063)
Leave it to Neop the simpleton to over-simplify.....again....

You said if it was on the ballot you'd vote to make alcohol and sugary drinks illegal :laugh:

eastisbest 08-12-17 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by TylerDurden (Post 6805062)
Actually the discussion was you claiming you could be impaired while sitting in your house from your neighbor smoking, and you claiming it would stink up an entire neighborhood for blocks. To the point you're making now, when my neighbor smoke a cigarette, has a fire, sprays deer off, etc. I can smell it, but you won't see me whining about it.

:clap:

14Red 08-12-17 11:39 PM

I'm thankful everyday that I don't drink. My views on alcohol is pretty radical. The heading of this thread does in surprise me in the least. We have a very hypocritical view on alcohol. It's a drug, just like our new "heroin" and opoid epidemic, but alcohol doesn't get the same negative connotation. In fact, it's celebrated by many. Anyone that watches any sports, we are innodated with alcohol, beer, wine commercials.

Never saw any statistics or surveys, but I'd almost guess most people who have marital, financial, emotional or mental issues, alcohol is a contributing factor in a high percentage of cases.
The new "fad" for the millenials is wine and "craft" beers. I see so many 20 somethings that routinely drink nearly every night. A generation ago, it was generally on the weekends with a cheap beer. Now, these kids have money and drink more often. Or at least they appear to have money, many are credit and debit carding themselves into financial ruin.

y2h 08-13-17 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Neopolitan (Post 6804534)
Another substance big gov Cabe thinks we need the government to protect us from.

Bring back lead paint.

OhioBobcatFan06 08-13-17 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by 14Red (Post 6805612)
I'm thankful everyday that I don't drink. My views on alcohol is pretty radical. The heading of this thread does in surprise me in the least. We have a very hypocritical view on alcohol. It's a drug, just like our new "heroin" and opoid epidemic, but alcohol doesn't get the same negative connotation. In fact, it's celebrated by many. Anyone that watches any sports, we are innodated with alcohol, beer, wine commercials.

Never saw any statistics or surveys, but I'd almost guess most people who have marital, financial, emotional or mental issues, alcohol is a contributing factor in a high percentage of cases.
The new "fad" for the millenials is wine and "craft" beers. I see so many 20 somethings that routinely drink nearly every night. A generation ago, it was generally on the weekends with a cheap beer. Now, these kids have money and drink more often. Or at least they appear to have money, many are credit and debit carding themselves into financial ruin.

Damn millennials and their money

TylerDurden 08-13-17 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by 14Red (Post 6805612)
A generation ago, it was generally on the weekends with a cheap beer.

Alcohol use for the last 4 generation of Americans has been fairly consistent. What are you basing your opinion on?

cabezadecaballo 08-13-17 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by TylerDurden (Post 6805106)
Where did I make any comment regarding welfare or letting people support themselves? The only one here with a selective political ideology is the guy using his opposition to big gov't handouts as justification for a big gov't war on drugs. Again, exactly what I would expect from someone with your history.

You don't even consider it, ya goof. That's the whole point :Ohno:


Issues have to be viewed as a part of the whole society. The Libertarians' foolishness often lies in the fact that they seem to consider individual things either in a vacuum or as a piece, like a stepping stone, on a path to a goal that is recognized by more pragmatic people as unattainable. Probably cannabis-induced naivete' :laugh:

cabezadecaballo 08-13-17 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Neopolitan (Post 6805191)
You said if it was on the ballot you'd vote to make alcohol and sugary drinks illegal :laugh:

As usually happens with you, the simpleton over-simplifies and omits my qualifier - IF we are going to have a national health plan fixing all the ailments of the sponges in society.

I'll buy bootleg booze, brew beer, make wine, and be ignored by law enforcement for doing those things because I'm a pillar of any community in which I choose to reside. :D

eastside_purple 08-13-17 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by TylerDurden (Post 6805714)
Alcohol use for the last 4 generation of Americans has been fairly consistent. What are you basing your opinion on?

If it's the same eye test he uses for baseball, it's pretty clear reality is 180 degrees from his stated opinion.


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