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TopCat 06-07-18 09:29 PM

Schools Opt Out of Playing Strong Opponent
 
I thought this might be of interest for offseason discussion. I lived in the Baltimore region for 20 years. Private schools that historically recruited the best talent in the region are now refusing to play St. Frances Academy after SFA beat the other privates at their own recruiting game. I find it amusing. Here's a link: http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/h...606-story.html

Hammerdrill 06-08-18 07:20 AM

That is interesting. High school football in MD is a little different than here in Ohio. The area I'm familiar with, the school system is a county sized entity. So I'm guessing the entire state is that way. Given that they have a much smaller population, thus fewer top athletes, the disparity of talent that can be created by private schools like this, is pretty stark.

sapientia et veritas 06-08-18 07:58 AM

CHC would be a little more honest if they just said - sorry but we spent all our money on water poloists and lacrosse players - we were tired of losing to Gilman and Boys Latin. And the Dons should just announce that they don't have enough children of CEOs to field a nationally competitive team in every sport. Both are just making sure that they keep their sissies undamaged for the Turkey Bowl, which, honestly, is the only game that either of them really care about. $$$

Maryland is what the private supporters say that separation in Ohio would look like. Maybe for Eds, Ignatius, X, and Moeller but none of the rest of the state has the juice like the Baltimore & Washington powerhouses do. They're all independent schools run by orders with massive endowments.

fish82 06-08-18 08:19 AM

Gosh, not sure why no one would want to play what is essentially a professional team. Poggi is personally paying the tuition and room/board for 40 players. :shrug:

He's a sht person and a sht coach. Less than surprising that he's trying to buy a HSFB MNC.

EastYoungstown 06-08-18 09:58 AM

teams ducking other teams?

say it aint so

sapientia et veritas 06-08-18 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by fish82 (Post 7054741)
He's a sht person and a sht coach.

That's BS. He's not doing anything different from what he did at Gilman. He's just doing it now with less of that Roland Park snobbery ensuring that he brings in the right kind of boys for the cotillions with RPCS and Bryn Mawr. And with a lot less available cash. It's naked racism. Schools that didn't mind getting mauled by Gilman on their way to 13 MIAA titles during the 19 years of his tenure there are suddenly worried about safety? The Panthers aren't any bigger, just blacker.

arizonawildcat 06-08-18 10:39 AM

Ever wonder why Ignatius and Ed's have a difficult time filling their schedules with Ohio teams?

sapientia et veritas 06-08-18 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by arizonawildcat (Post 7054792)
Ever wonder why Ignatius and Ed's have a difficult time filling their schedules with Ohio teams?

Because Mentor scheduled each of them only once during the regular season. To be the best you have to be willing to play the best. No one else wants to be best, I guess. Same everywhere.

fish82 06-08-18 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by sapientia et veritas (Post 7054790)
That's BS. He's not doing anything different from what he did at Gilman.

Patently false. The reason he left Gilman is that he wanted to start doing what he's doing now at SFA (hiring players to win a MNC) and the administration said no.


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Originally Posted by sapientia et veritas (Post 7054790)
He's just doing it now with less of that Roland Park snobbery ensuring that he brings in the right kind of boys for the cotillions with RPCS and Bryn Mawr. And with a lot less available cash. It's naked racism. Schools that didn't mind getting mauled by Gilman on their way to 13 MIAA titles during the 19 years of his tenure there are suddenly worried about safety? The Panthers aren't any bigger, just blacker.

Gilman rarely "mauled" anybody...that's silly. Were they pretty good? Yeah. They were a typical private HS football team...same as the GCL, Iggy or Ed.

He's one of the worst "high profile" HSFB coaches I've ever seen. Watching him call a game was/is painful. At SFA, he's hired enough horses that it doesn't matter. :shrug:

EagleFan 06-08-18 11:34 AM

Article says they are playing a team from Ohio. Who?

TigerPaw 06-08-18 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by arizonawildcat (Post 7054792)
Ever wonder why Ignatius and Ed's have a difficult time filling their schedules with Ohio teams?

Poor Iggy poor Eds, lol. I don't disagree but that is true for many teams across All divisions. Your problem is the larger more dominant D1 schools have fewer options. Not many D2 and below need to schedule you people, let alone the small handful of consistent public D1 contenders.

roberto21 06-08-18 12:55 PM

From USA Today:

http://usatodayhss.com/2018/st-franc...ional-schedule

Article mentions it taking place in 2019 schedule not 2018.

sapientia et veritas 06-08-18 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan (Post 7054823)
Article says they are playing a team from Ohio. Who?

Maybe COF Academy, LOL.

EagleFan 06-08-18 03:59 PM

Is anyone even sure COF Academy will exist?

The Dock 06-08-18 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan (Post 7054943)
Is anyone even sure COF Academy will exist?

They’re the Webistics of football preparatory schools.

Bad Blake 06-08-18 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by arizonawildcat (Post 7054792)
Ever wonder why Ignatius and Ed's have a difficult time filling their schedules with Ohio teams?

Who exactly do you think should schedule them?

vamp2syd 06-08-18 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by arizonawildcat (Post 7054792)
Ever wonder why Ignatius and Ed's have a difficult time filling their schedules with Ohio teams?

There not the only ones....

Olentangy Liberty opted out of playing at Wayne this season when Wayne played at Liberty last year. Liberty was a back to back regional champion.... why are they ducking Wayne who has been down????

cabezadecaballo 06-08-18 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by EastYoungstown (Post 7054784)
teams ducking other teams?

say it aint so

Those Revolutionary War future Americans were huge puzzies for hiding behind trees, too. Babies. They should have lined up in ranks and fought those Redcoats with pride and valor, dammit!!!

cabezadecaballo 06-08-18 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by sapientia et veritas (Post 7054801)
Because Mentor scheduled each of them only once during the regular season. To be the best you have to be willing to play the best. No one else wants to be best, I guess. Same everywhere.

One of the largest school districts in the state. Shocker, huh ?

Football 101 06-08-18 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by vamp2syd (Post 7054989)
There not the only ones....

Olentangy Liberty opted out of playing at Wayne this season when Wayne played at Liberty last year. Liberty was a back to back regional champion.... why are they ducking Wayne who has been down????

In NEO we have seen leagues completely turn their backs on a league member and create a new league because....why?

straight dodging going on here as well. No stone to cast here.

all I can say is those schools that are DODGING most of the time end up being first and second round fodder.

fish82 06-08-18 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by vamp2syd (Post 7054989)
There not the only ones....

Olentangy Liberty opted out of playing at Wayne this season when Wayne played at Liberty last year. Liberty was a back to back regional champion.... why are they ducking Wayne who has been down????

They're playing Glenville instead. Hardly a step down.

arizonawildcat 06-08-18 06:55 PM

You're thinking of the Glenville a decade ago.

arizonawildcat 06-08-18 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Bad Blake (Post 7054975)
Who exactly do you think should schedule them?

Maybe one of the Columbus suburban teams or maybe Colerain.

Raider6309 06-08-18 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by vamp2syd (Post 7054989)
There not the only ones....

Olentangy Liberty opted out of playing at Wayne this season when Wayne played at Liberty last year. Liberty was a back to back regional champion.... why are they ducking Wayne who has been down????

Do you really have to ask that? Olentangy is probably the richest school in Ohio. Wayne has very high crime

vamp2syd 06-08-18 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Raider6309 (Post 7055038)
Do you really have to ask that? Olentangy is probably the richest school in Ohio. Wayne has very high crime

What makes you think Wayne has very high crime? :wallbang:

Raider6309 06-08-18 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by vamp2syd (Post 7055050)
What makes you think Wayne has very high crime? :wallbang:

I mean its top 10% worst in Ohio. Have you ever drove through Powell or Dublin? Makes me feel poor

vamp2syd 06-08-18 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Raider6309 (Post 7055056)
I mean its top 10% worst in Ohio. Have you ever drove through Powell or Dublin? Makes me feel poor

Where do you think Wayne is located?

Raider6309 06-08-18 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by vamp2syd (Post 7055057)
Where do you think Wayne is located?

Huber Heights

vamp2syd 06-08-18 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Raider6309 (Post 7055058)
Huber Heights

:shrug:

In 2018, Huber Heights was ranked 14th out of the 29 suburbs of Dayton to live.... middle of the pack.... but with a B+ rating....

Raider6309 06-08-18 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by vamp2syd (Post 7055059)
:shrug:

In 2018, Huber Heights was ranked 14th out of the 29 suburbs of Dayton to live.... middle of the pack.... but with a B+ rating....

You do realize Dayton is one of the worst cities in America. #1 in drug OD's


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