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02-21-12, 07:39 AM
Is there any limit on how many pre-state tourney games a hockey team is permitted to play? I know in football it's 10, and 20 in basketball. But what about hockey? I ask because there seems to be a huge discrepancy in the amount of games teams have played. Prior to the state tourney, Ignatius played 36. But Sylvania Northview, currently ranked #2 in the state, has only played 17 (this is based on the state hockey rankings). That's better than two-to-one. What's the deal?
02-21-12, 07:48 AM
Sat Nov 12th 11:00am Upper Arlington vs NV NV-TOS (S) 8-2 W
Fri Nov 18th 7:00pm University School vs NV NV-TOS (S) 3-1 W
Sat Nov 19th 10:00am Walsh Jesuit vs NV NV-TOS (S) 7-3 W
Cold Turkey Thanskgiving Tournament
Fri Nov 25th 8:30pm St. Francis vs NV NV-TOS 5-2 W 1-0
Sat Nov 26th 11:00am Findlay vs NV NV-TOS 6-1 W 2-0
Sat Nov 26th 6:00pm Gilmour vs NV NV-TOS 5-1 W 3-0
Sun Nov 27th 11:30am Gilmour vs NV NV -TOS 6-2 W 4-0
NHC League Play
Thur Dec 1st 8:00pm NV vs SJJ SJJ-TOS 3-1 W 5-0
Fri Dec 2nd 7:00pm BG vs NV NV-TOS 5-1 W 6-0
Fri Dec 9th 7:00pm NV vs Findlay Findlay-Cube 4-0 W 7-0
Sat Dec 10th 9:00pm St. Francis vs NV NV-TOS 6-2 W 8-0
Padua Christmas Tournament
Fri Dec 16th 5:00pm NV vs Lake Catholic LC-ILU 3-3 T 8-0-1
Sat Dec 17th 8:10am NV vs Padua NV-ILU 6-0 W 9-0-1
Sat Dec 17th 5:00pm NV vs St. Edwards SE-ILU 4-2 W 10-0-1
Sun Dec 18th 11:10am NV vs University School US-ILU 0-0 T 10-0-2
Sun Dec 18th 3:10pm NV vs University School NV-ILU 6-0 W 11-0-2
Warrior Shootout Kent State
Tues Dec 27th 3:30pm NV vs Walsh Jesuit Walsh-KSU 6-0 W 12-0-2
Wed Dec 28th 11:15am Hudson vs NV NV-KSU 4-4 T 12-0-3
Wed Dec 28th 5:45pm NV vs HSE HSE-KSU 3-0 W 13-0-3
Thur Dec 29th 4:00pm NV vs Dublin Jerome NV-KSU 2-4 L 13-1-3
Chicago Midwinter Classic
Sat Jan 14th 8:10pm NV vs Arapahoe Ice Warriors AIW-Addison 3-0 W 14-1-3
Sun Jan 15th 10:00am NV vs Geneva Cyclones GC- Seven Bridges 4-0 W 15-1-3
Sun Jan 15th 4:20pm NV vs Littleton Hawks LH- Seven Bridges 3-1 W 16-1-3
Mon Jan 16th 9:40am Bartlett Wheaton West Wildhawks vs NV NV- Addison 3-2 W 17-1-3
Mon Jan 16th 3:30 Championship Game vs
Arapahoe Ice Warriors NV- Edge Arena 2-1 W 18-1-3
Non-League in Indiana
Sat Jan 21st 2:30pm NV vs Hamilton HAM-Fishers Forum 5-1 W 19-1-3
Sun Jan 22nd 12:30pm NV vs Cathedral-Chatard CC-Fishers Forum 6-3 W 20-1-3
NHC League Play
Fri Jan 27th 7:00pm SJJ vs NV NV-TOS 4-3 W 21-1-3
Sat Jan 28th 6:00pm Findlay vs NV NV-TOS 3-1 W 22-1-3
Fri Feb 3rd 7:00pm NV vs St. Francis SF-TOS 7-4 W 23-1-3
Sat Feb 4th 7:15pm NV vs BG BG-BGSU 2-0 W 24-1-3
League Playoffs Feb 10th-12th
Sat Feb 11th 7:00pm NV vs St. F.
Semi-Final NV- TOS 5-2 W 25-1-3
Sun Feb 12th 1:15pm NV vs SJJ Championship game NV- TOS 5-2 W
They have played around 30 games
02-21-12, 08:07 AM
I was basing my question on the number of games listed in www.ushsho.com/ohrank. If that's incorrect, I apologize. But there's still a discrepancy of six between the number of games Ignatius has played and Northview. Back to my original question, is there any limit on the number of regular season games a team can play?
02-21-12, 08:15 AM
I think that they just have yet to enter the scores from all of Northviews games, but that is a good question, i believe you have to play a certain number of games to be considered a legitimate OSHAA high school team. Try http://www.ohsaa.org/sports/ih/boys/default.asp they might have the requirements
02-21-12, 09:10 AM
With all the games that each of these teams have played this year, it's amazing that they haven't played each other yet. You'd think that they'd at least find themselves in the same regular season tournament somewhere along the line.
02-21-12, 12:51 PM
from the OHSAA Ice Hockey Regualtions:
"Regular season games — 18. Invitational tournaments - 2 to 8 teams equals one game; 9 or more teams equals two games. Note: Beginning with the 2012-13 sesason, the maximum number of regular season games shall be 35 plus OHSAA tournament. Each contest played will count in the maximum of 35 contests permitted during the regular season."
So, this year and in previous years, the number of tournaments teams play can create a discrepancy in the total number of games. That changes next year when each game counts as a contest inlcuding tournament games.
02-22-12, 12:11 PM
Yep, the old exempted tournament trick. Some schools are much better/more aggressive about loading their schedule up with these games than others. Except I thought the rule was for a three-game tournament, one game was counted against the schedule, for a four-game tournament, two games, and so on. Perhaps that's what it was a while back and it was changed.
Regardless, the 35 game rule still gives schools plenty of leeway (after the GCHSHL schedule, still leaves room for 23-25 more games). Most schools won't even come close to touching that number.
The new rule may make things a little bit tricky with the Baron Cup, however, and schools that like to play a lot of games. In the past, schools would just leave a game slot open at the end of the season and they'd be fine regardless of how far they went in the Cup. Now it looks like schools are going to have to leave three game slots open, so it will be interesting to see how that is dealt with.
02-25-12, 10:00 AM
Bennies - good point about the Baron Cup. I'd think the coaches would lobby to exempt the season-ending league tournaments. They could also have 3rd and 5th, maybe 7th place games in the Baron Cup so all teams can utilize 3 points.
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