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EagleFan
12-03-11, 03:24 PM
The schedule
Fri 11/25 7PM vs. Athol Springs (NY) St. Francis @ Upper Canada College Tournament L 3-2
Sat 11/26 12:30PM vs. Upper Canada College @ Upper Canada College Tournament L 5-2
Sat 11/26 7:00PM vs. St. Peter's Prep (NJ) @ Upper Canada College Tournament W 4-3
Sun 11/27 10:00AM vs. St. Michael's (Ont) @ Upper Canada College Tournament W 5-4
Fri 12/2 5:45PM vs Padua @ Winterhurst W 4-0
Sat 12/3 4:20PM @ University School @ The Pond
Fri 12/9 5:45PM vs. Strongsville @ Winterhurst
*Thu 12/15 7:15PM vs. St. Ignatius @ Winterhurst
Fri 12/16 9AM vs St. John's Jesuit @ Padua Holiday Tournament @ Ice Land
Sat 12/17 11:50AM vs Findlay @ Padua Holiday Tournament @ Ice Land
Sat 12/17 9:15PM vs Sylvania Northview @ Padua Holiday Tournament @ Ice Land
Sun 12/18 9AM vs Toledo St. Francis DeSales @ Padua Holiday Tournament @ Ice Land
Sun 12/18 TBD vs. TBD @ Padua Holiday Tournament @ Ice Land
Fri 12/23 5:45PM vs University School @ Winterhurst
Tue 12/27 @ Eagle Classic Tournament @ Winterhurst
Wed 12/28 @ Eagle Classic Tournament @ Winterhurst
Thu 12/29 @ Eagle Classic Tournament @ Winterhurst
Wed 1/4 7PM @ Lake Catholic @ Mentor Civic Center
Fri 1/6 @ Athol Springs (NY) St. Francis Tournament @ Leisure Rinks
Sat 1/7 @ Athol Springs (NY) St. Francis Tournament @ Leisure Rinks
Sun 1/8 @ Athol Springs (NY) St. Francis Tournament @ Leisure Rinks
Fri 1/13 @ Meadville (PA) Bulldog Invitational
Sat 1/14 @ Meadville (PA) Bulldog Invitational
Sun 1/15 @ Meadville (PA) Bulldog Invitational
Fri 1/20 5:45PM vs. Shaker Heights @ Winterhurst
Sat 1/21 6:30PM @ Padua Franciscan @ Ice Land
Fri 1/27 5:45PM vs. Lake Castholic @ Winterhurst
Sat 1/28 6:30PM @ Strongsville @ Ice Land
Fri 2/3 9:00AM @ Shaker Heights @ Thornton Park
*Sat 2/4 4:45PM @ St. Ignatius @ Brooklyn
Mon 2/6 Baron Cup starts
Mon 2/13 Districts start
Sat 3/10 State Semi-Finals @ Nationwide Arena
Sun 3/11 State Championship @ Nationwide Arena
*One of the Eds-Ignatius games will be moved to Progressive Field 1/5/2012
MensLeagueStud
12-03-11, 10:20 PM
really?? again?
St. Edward 2011-12
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The schedule
Fri 11/25 7PM vs. Athol Springs (NY) St. Francis @ Upper Canada College Tournament L 3-2
Sat 11/26 12:30PM vs. Upper Canada College @ Upper Canada College Tournament L 5-2
Sat 11/26 7:00PM vs. St. Peter's Prep (NJ) @ Upper Canada College Tournament W 4-3
Sun 11/27 10:00AM vs. St. Michael's (Ont) @ Upper Canada College Tournament W 5-4
Fri 12/2 5:45PM vs Padua @ Winterhurst W 4-0
Sat 12/3 4:20PM @ University School @ The Pond L 4-2
Fri 12/9 5:45PM vs. Strongsville @ Winterhurst
*Thu 12/15 7:15PM vs. St. Ignatius @ Winterhurst
Fri 12/16 9AM vs St. John's Jesuit @ Padua Holiday Tournament @ Ice Land
Sat 12/17 11:50AM vs Findlay @ Padua Holiday Tournament @ Ice Land
Sat 12/17 9:15PM vs Sylvania Northview @ Padua Holiday Tournament @ Ice Land
Sun 12/18 9AM vs Toledo St. Francis DeSales @ Padua Holiday Tournament @ Ice Land
Sun 12/18 TBD vs. TBD @ Padua Holiday Tournament @ Ice Land
Fri 12/23 5:45PM vs University School @ Winterhurst
Tue 12/27 @ Eagle Classic Tournament @ Winterhurst
Wed 12/28 @ Eagle Classic Tournament @ Winterhurst
Thu 12/29 @ Eagle Classic Tournament @ Winterhurst
Wed 1/4 7PM @ Lake Catholic @ Mentor Civic Center
Fri 1/6 @ Athol Springs (NY) St. Francis Tournament @ Leisure Rinks
Sat 1/7 @ Athol Springs (NY) St. Francis Tournament @ Leisure Rinks
Sun 1/8 @ Athol Springs (NY) St. Francis Tournament @ Leisure Rinks
Fri 1/13 @ Meadville (PA) Bulldog Invitational
Sat 1/14 @ Meadville (PA) Bulldog Invitational
Sun 1/15 @ Meadville (PA) Bulldog Invitational
Fri 1/20 5:45PM vs. Shaker Heights @ Winterhurst
Sat 1/21 6:30PM @ Padua Franciscan @ Ice Land
Fri 1/27 5:45PM vs. Lake Castholic @ Winterhurst
Sat 1/28 6:30PM @ Strongsville @ Ice Land
Fri 2/3 9:00AM @ Shaker Heights @ Thornton Park
*Sat 2/4 4:45PM @ St. Ignatius @ Brooklyn
Mon 2/6 Baron Cup starts
Mon 2/13 Districts start
Sat 3/10 State Semi-Finals @ Nationwide Arena
Sun 3/11 State Championship @ Nationwide Arena
*One of the Eds-Ignatius games will be moved to Progressive Field 1/5/2012
EagleFan
12-10-11, 01:05 PM
St. Edward 2011-12
The schedule
Fri 11/25 7PM vs. Athol Springs (NY) St. Francis @ Upper Canada College Tournament L 3-2
Sat 11/26 12:30PM vs. Upper Canada College @ Upper Canada College Tournament L 5-2
Sat 11/26 7:00PM vs. St. Peter's Prep (NJ) @ Upper Canada College Tournament W 4-3
Sun 11/27 10:00AM vs. St. Michael's (Ont) @ Upper Canada College Tournament W 5-4
Fri 12/2 5:45PM vs Padua @ Winterhurst W 4-0
Sat 12/3 4:20PM @ University School @ The Pond L 4-2
Fri 12/9 5:45PM vs. Strongsville @ Winterhurst W 6-0
Thu 12/15 7:15PM vs. St. Ignatius @ Winterhurst
Fri 12/16 9AM vs St. John's Jesuit @ Padua Holiday Tournament @ Ice Land
Sat 12/17 11:50AM vs Findlay @ Padua Holiday Tournament @ Ice Land
Sat 12/17 9:15PM vs Sylvania Northview @ Padua Holiday Tournament @ Ice Land
Sun 12/18 9AM vs Toledo St. Francis DeSales @ Padua Holiday Tournament @ Ice Land
Sun 12/18 TBD vs. TBD @ Padua Holiday Tournament @ Ice Land
Fri 12/23 5:45PM vs University School @ Winterhurst
Tue 12/27 @ Eagle Classic Tournament @ Winterhurst
Wed 12/28 @ Eagle Classic Tournament @ Winterhurst
Thu 12/29 @ Eagle Classic Tournament @ Winterhurst
Wed 1/4 7PM @ Lake Catholic @ Mentor Civic Center
Thu 1/6 4:45PM @ St. Ignatius @ Progressive Field
Fri 1/6 @ Athol Springs (NY) St. Francis Tournament @ Leisure Rinks
Sat 1/7 @ Athol Springs (NY) St. Francis Tournament @ Leisure Rinks
Sun 1/8 @ Athol Springs (NY) St. Francis Tournament @ Leisure Rinks
Fri 1/13 @ Meadville (PA) Bulldog Invitational
Sat 1/14 @ Meadville (PA) Bulldog Invitational
Sun 1/15 @ Meadville (PA) Bulldog Invitational
Fri 1/20 5:45PM vs. Shaker Heights @ Winterhurst
Sat 1/21 6:30PM @ Padua Franciscan @ Ice Land
Fri 1/27 5:45PM vs. Lake Castholic @ Winterhurst
Sat 1/28 6:30PM @ Strongsville @ Ice Land
Fri 2/3 9:00AM @ Shaker Heights @ Thornton Park
Mon 2/6 Baron Cup starts
Mon 2/13 Districts start
Sat 3/10 State Semi-Finals @ Nationwide Arena
Sun 3/11 State Championship @ Nationwide Arena
CatAlum
12-11-11, 07:21 PM
Ignatius/Ed's this Thursday. So far, the Cats are rolling over their opponents. Good chance for both teams to see where they're at.
arizonawildcat
12-15-11, 08:47 PM
Ignatius-Ed's ends in a 3-3 tie.
Ignatius-Ed's ends in a 3-3 tie.
Michael Abood's goal with one minute left in overtime gave St. Ignatius a 4-3win over St. Edward in an ice hockey game on Thursday night at Winterhurst.
Abood found the net off an assist by Liam Geither. The Wildcats' other goals were scored by Geither, Harry Smith and Colton Riemenschneider. Goalkeeper Matt Kovesdy had 15 saves for St. Ignatius, which is 12-0.
arizonawildcat
12-16-11, 11:43 AM
Michael Abood's goal with one minute left in overtime gave St. Ignatius a 4-3win over St. Edward in an ice hockey game on Thursday night at Winterhurst.
Abood found the net off an assist by Liam Geither. The Wildcats' other goals were scored by Geither, Harry Smith and Colton Riemenschneider. Goalkeeper Matt Kovesdy had 15 saves for St. Ignatius, which is 12-0.
I guess I turned off the Ignatius webcast too soon. I would have sworn that the commentators said the game was over and that there would be no overtime. Obviously, I misheard them. My apologies for posting misinformation.
EaglePride01
12-17-11, 08:56 AM
Eagles win 3-2 over St. Johns @ the Padua Holiday Tournament
EaglePride01
12-18-11, 12:03 AM
St. Edward 5
Findlay 0
ToledoXC
12-18-11, 03:01 PM
Eagles win 3-2 over St. Johns @ the Padua Holiday Tournament
This could be a preview of the state championship.
CatAlum
12-18-11, 06:05 PM
This could be a preview of the state championship.
TSJ lost to Holy Name...correct?
EaglePride01
12-18-11, 09:07 PM
St. Edward 2
Northview 4
St. Edward 3
Toledo St. Francis 3
EaglePride01
12-18-11, 09:10 PM
This could be a preview of the state championship.
At this early point in the season Northview looks to be the class of Toledo, and Ignatius in Cleveland. Of course I'd never count my Eagles out as they usually play pretty good hockey come Feb/March.
CatAlum
12-19-11, 08:39 AM
Of course I'd never count my Eagles out as they usually play pretty good hockey come Feb/March.
While not always the case, I do see evidence over the years that, between Ignatius and St. Ed's, the team more likely to show improvement over time is St. Ed's. But that was under a different coaching regime. So, we'll see...
EaglePride01
12-27-11, 09:03 AM
St. Edward 3
University School 4
GencoEd
12-29-11, 07:44 AM
For those interested, former Eagle and current NY Ranger Mike Rupp is getting qute a bit of air-time on HBO's 24/7 Road to the Winter Classic....
FormerWildcat
12-29-11, 09:08 AM
Wed 12/28 v. Dublin Coffman @ Eagle Classic Tournament @ Winterhurst W 6-2
FWIW, the Dispatch had the St. Edward win over Dublin Coffman at 7-2.
http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/sports/2011/12/29/high29-gkefe7fc-1.html
The Shamrocks did better against University School.
Lakewood St. Edward 7, Dublin Coffman 2
DC — Goals: Putnam, Marcinick. Saves: Burich 22.
LSE — Goals: Geib, Glover, King, Slaght, Hoy, Lampron, Day. Saves: Krueger 10.
Hunting Valley University School 2, Dublin Coffman 1
DC (7-6) — Goal: Gruehl. Saves: Burich 40.
HVU — Goals: Wipper 2. Saves: Althans 19.
slammer20
01-01-12, 10:44 AM
Isn't the Ignatius contest this Thursday, or January 5th at Progressive Field? If yes, what time does the puck drop?
mailman112
01-03-12, 10:31 AM
Puck drops at 7:00pm
arizonawildcat
01-03-12, 07:28 PM
Ignatius edges Strongsville, raising its record to 21-0 going into Thursday night's game with Ed's at Progressive.
EagleFan
01-05-12, 08:12 PM
Ignatius 4 Eds 2 on live tv. Iggy empty netter clinched it with a few seconds to go
jlach22
01-06-12, 06:23 AM
Good effort by he Eagles. Really had a chance to win this one. Gave up 2 late goals, the the empty netter. Showed we can certainly skate with them, though.
EaglePride01
01-06-12, 08:18 AM
Ignatius was definitely more active and organized on the offensive end. The shots on goal were heavily in favor of the Wildcats, and Galati did a good job fending off the onslaught for most of the night. But even up 2-1 half way through the 3rd, there was a feeling the Eagles needed another goal to put it away as it was just a matter of time before Ignatius would score.
EaglePride01
01-14-12, 08:58 AM
Updated Results:
Fri 11/25 7PM vs. Athol Springs (NY) St. Francis @ Upper Canada College Tournament L 3-2
Sat 11/26 12:30PM vs. Upper Canada College @ Upper Canada College Tournament L 5-2
Sat 11/26 7:00PM vs. St. Peter's Prep (NJ) @ Upper Canada College Tournament W 4-3
Sun 11/27 10:00AM vs. St. Michael's (Ont) @ Upper Canada College Tournament W 5-4
Fri 12/2 5:45PM vs Padua @ Winterhurst W 4-0
Sat 12/3 4:20PM @ University School @ The Pond L 4-2
Fri 12/9 5:45PM vs. Strongsville @ Winterhurst W 6-0
*Thu 12/15 7:15PM vs. St. Ignatius @ Winterhurst L 4-3 OT
Fri 12/16 9AM vs St. John's Jesuit @ Padua Holiday Tournament @ Ice Land W 3-2
Sat 12/17 11:50AM vs Findlay @ Padua Holiday Tournament @ Ice Land W 5-0
Sat 12/17 9:15PM vs Sylvania Northview @ Padua Holiday Tournament @ Ice Land L 4-2
Sun 12/18 9AM vs Toledo St. Francis DeSales @ Padua Holiday Tournament @ Ice Land T 3-3
Fri 12/23 5:45PM vs University School @ Winterhurst L 4-3
Tue 12/27 v. Loyola Academy (IL) @ Eagle Classic Tournament @ Winterhurst L 6-0
Wed 12/28 v. Dublin Coffman @ Eagle Classic Tournament @ Winterhurst W 7-2
Thu 12/29 @ Eagle Classic Tournament @ Winterhurst
Wed 1/4 7PM @ Lake Catholic @ Mentor Civic Center W 4-3
Thur 1/5 vs. St. Ignatius @ Progressive Field L 4-2
Fri 1/6 @ Athol Springs (NY) St. Francis Tournament @ Leisure Rinks ?
Sat 1/7 @ Athol Springs (NY) St. Francis Tournament @ Leisure Rinks ?
Sun 1/8 @ Athol Springs (NY) St. Francis Tournament @ Leisure Rinks ?
Fri 1/13 vs. Peter's Township @ Meadville (PA) Bulldog Invitational T 3-3
Sat 1/14 vs. Mt. Lebanon @ Meadville (PA) Bulldog Invitational W 7-0
Sat 1/14 vs. Erie Cathedral Prep @ Meadville (PA) Bulldog Invitational W 2-1
Sun 1/15 vs. St. Ignatius @ Meadville (PA) Bulldog Invitational L 4-1
Fri 1/20 5:45PM vs. Shaker Heights @ Winterhurst T 2-2
Sat 1/21 6:30PM @ Padua Franciscan @ Ice Land W 4-2
Fri 1/27 5:45PM vs. Lake Castholic @ Winterhurst W 5-2
Sat 1/28 6:30PM @ Strongsville @ Ice Land W 5-3
Fri 2/3 9:00AM @ Shaker Heights @ Thornton Park L 3-0
Sat 2/4 vs. Gilmour Academy @ Holy Cross Cup W 1-0
Mon 2/6 Baron Cup starts
Mon 2/13 Districts start
Sat 3/10 State Semi-Finals @ Nationwide Arena
Sun 3/11 State Championship @ Nationwide Arena
Hope the Eagles meet the Wildcats in Meadville!
arizonawildcat
01-15-12, 03:00 PM
Hope the Eagles meet the Wildcats in Meadville!
I believe the Cats and the Eagles were meeting in a semifinal this morning. I have no idea who won.
CatAlum
01-15-12, 06:33 PM
I believe the Cats and the Eagles were meeting in a semifinal this morning. I have no idea who won.
Ignatius won 4-1 and then went on to win comfortably in the final.
arizonawildcat
01-15-12, 06:59 PM
Ignatius won 4-1 and then went on to win comfortably in the final.
So that makes three wins over Ed's this season and a record of 28-0.
EaglePride01
01-16-12, 09:40 AM
Certainly shaping up to be a special, and perhaps historic, season for the Cats.
ToledoXC
01-19-12, 11:18 AM
Certainly shaping up to be a special, and perhaps historic, season for the Cats.
Love the reverse jinx :stirthepot:
arizonawildcat
01-21-12, 01:54 PM
Can someone explain the details of the Baron Cup? How many teams participate? Are the teams seeded? etc.
EaglePride01
01-21-12, 03:33 PM
Can someone explain the details of the Baron Cup? How many teams participate? Are the teams seeded? etc.
There are actually three Baron Cups now: I, II, and III. The Red Divison plays in I, White Division in II, and Blue Division in III. The top eight teams from each divsion are seeded 1-8.
EaglePride01
02-05-12, 12:15 PM
Updated Results:
Fri 11/25 7PM vs. Athol Springs (NY) St. Francis @ Upper Canada College Tournament L 3-2
Sat 11/26 12:30PM vs. Upper Canada College @ Upper Canada College Tournament L 5-2
Sat 11/26 7:00PM vs. St. Peter's Prep (NJ) @ Upper Canada College Tournament W 4-3
Sun 11/27 10:00AM vs. St. Michael's (Ont) @ Upper Canada College Tournament W 5-4
Fri 12/2 5:45PM vs Padua @ Winterhurst W 4-0
Sat 12/3 4:20PM @ University School @ The Pond L 4-2
Fri 12/9 5:45PM vs. Strongsville @ Winterhurst W 6-0
*Thu 12/15 7:15PM vs. St. Ignatius @ Winterhurst L 4-3 OT
Fri 12/16 9AM vs St. John's Jesuit @ Padua Holiday Tournament @ Ice Land W 3-2
Sat 12/17 11:50AM vs Findlay @ Padua Holiday Tournament @ Ice Land W 5-0
Sat 12/17 9:15PM vs Sylvania Northview @ Padua Holiday Tournament @ Ice Land L 4-2
Sun 12/18 9AM vs Toledo St. Francis DeSales @ Padua Holiday Tournament @ Ice Land T 3-3
Fri 12/23 5:45PM vs University School @ Winterhurst L 4-3
Tue 12/27 v. Loyola Academy (IL) @ Eagle Classic Tournament @ Winterhurst L 6-0
Wed 12/28 v. Dublin Coffman @ Eagle Classic Tournament @ Winterhurst W 7-2
Thu 12/29 @ Eagle Classic Tournament @ Winterhurst
Wed 1/4 7PM @ Lake Catholic @ Mentor Civic Center W 4-3
Thur 1/5 vs. St. Ignatius @ Progressive Field L 4-2
Fri 1/6 @ Athol Springs (NY) St. Francis Tournament @ Leisure Rinks ?
Sat 1/7 @ Athol Springs (NY) St. Francis Tournament @ Leisure Rinks ?
Sun 1/8 @ Athol Springs (NY) St. Francis Tournament @ Leisure Rinks ?
Fri 1/13 vs. Peter's Township @ Meadville (PA) Bulldog Invitational T 3-3
Sat 1/14 vs. Mt. Lebanon @ Meadville (PA) Bulldog Invitational W 7-0
Sat 1/14 vs. Erie Cathedral Prep @ Meadville (PA) Bulldog Invitational W 2-1
Sun 1/15 vs. St. Ignatius @ Meadville (PA) Bulldog Invitational L 4-1
Fri 1/20 5:45PM vs. Shaker Heights @ Winterhurst T 2-2
Sat 1/21 6:30PM @ Padua Franciscan @ Ice Land W 4-2
Fri 1/27 5:45PM vs. Lake Castholic @ Winterhurst W 5-2
Sat 1/28 6:30PM @ Strongsville @ Ice Land W 5-3
Fri 2/3 9:00AM @ Shaker Heights @ Thornton Park L 3-0
Sat 2/4 vs. Gilmour Academy @ Holy Cross Cup W 1-0
Wed 2/8 5:30PM vs. Lake Catholic @ Baron Cup L 2-1
Mon 2/13 Districts start
Sat 3/10 State Semi-Finals @ Nationwide Arena
Sun 3/11 State Championship @ Nationwide Arena
EaglePride01
02-08-12, 08:19 PM
Generating offense continues to be a problem as the Eagles bow out in the first round of the Baron Cup to Lake Catholic 2-1 in double OT.
slewfoot
02-09-12, 07:56 AM
Ouch.
The once-mighty eagles.....
what's happening in lakewood?
EaglePride01
02-09-12, 09:27 PM
Ouch.
The once-mighty eagles.....
what's happening in lakewood?
They are a year removed from a state final appearance. I don't know if there is cause for concern just yet.
EaglePride01
02-09-12, 09:31 PM
Baron Cup I results after round 1
1. St. Ignatius 6
8. Hudson 2
4. St. Edward 1
5. Lake Catholic 2
2. University School 5
7. Rocky River 3
3. Shaker Heights 2
6. Walsh Jesuit 1
Great win for the Eagles last night! 2-1 in OT with killing a 5 minute penalty at the end of regulation and the beginning of the extra period, way to be resilient and set up a showdown with Ignatius on Saturday!
arizonawildcat
03-01-12, 09:05 AM
You had to know it would come down to this. So what do you expect? 3-2 in six OTs?
Cleveland, TN
03-01-12, 10:27 PM
You had to know it would come down to this. So what do you expect? 3-2 in six OTs?
I'm guessing 35-34 in 3OT.
arizonawildcat
03-01-12, 10:54 PM
I'm guessing 35-34 in 3OT.
That's a whole lot of offense, plus a little last century for me. 20-17 seems to be a popular score for an Ignatius-Ed's game.
Depending on how the goalies play I could see this one turning into a close win for Ed's or Ignatius winning by 1, 2, or 3 goals, I doubt it will be much more high scoring then that.
Do You Believe in Miracles
I'm praying for one Edge, the boys know they can skate with them, I think its just a matter of being able to hold if we ever get the lead.
ToledoXC
03-03-12, 02:39 PM
St Eds 2
Iggy 0
After the first period, there is an upset brewing!!
Wildcats1886
03-03-12, 03:39 PM
Goals from Abood and Spellacy have tied it up. 6:15 to play.
Wildcats1886
03-03-12, 03:41 PM
And a couple seconds later the Eagles make it 3-2, capitalizing on a scrum in front of Kovesdy.
arizonawildcat
03-03-12, 03:55 PM
St Eds 2
Iggy 0
After the first period, there is an upset brewing!!
When Ignatius and Ed's play, there are never any upsets. Congrats to the Eagles on their win.
ToledoXC
03-03-12, 03:58 PM
Certainly shaping up to be a special, and perhaps historic, season for the Cats.
Fantasic use of the reverse jinx. Well played, my friend.:clap:
slammer20
03-03-12, 04:19 PM
Congratulations Eagles... good luck as you pursue championship number 12.
CatAlum
03-03-12, 04:19 PM
Ouch.
Congrats to the rival.
Do You Believe in Miracles
:angel: :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel:
Winner winner Eagle Dinner! :clap: :clap:
St. Ignatius Dream (Perfect) Season Ends. :dang: :D
St. Edward 3
St. Ignatius 2 :eek:
I'm praying for one Edge, the boys know they can skate with them, I think its just a matter of being able to hold if we ever get the lead.
:grouphug:
Bennies'01
03-03-12, 05:04 PM
Wow, congrats to Eds on an amazing (though not entirely surprising) win.
Next up for St. Edward: University School, another Red North team the Eagles are win-less against on the year. Can they make it three in a row against such opponents?
St. Edward Hockey Team Spoils St. Ignatius' Perfect Season With District Final Surprise
Joe Maxse, Plain Dealer Reporter,
BROOKLYN, Ohio -- No state high school hockey tournament would be complete without a classic game between St. Edward and St. Ignatius. That's just what 2,020 fans got on Saturday in the Brooklyn District final at the Coyne Recreation Center.
When all the skating, screaming and scoring was done, it was the Eagles (19-12-3) handing the Wildcats (39-1) their first loss of the season, 3-2, in a game as emotionally draining as it looked.
"We didn't change our focus for three periods," said St. Edward coach Troy Gray, whose club had lost three times to its West Side rival. "[St. Ignatius] is a monumental team that had a history-making season. Our kids kept their composure. It's all about their effort."
Composure came through when it had to for St. Edward. Rallying from a 2-0 first-period deficit, the Wildcats tied the game on a goal by senior Paddy Spellacy off a pass from Liam Geither with 6:15 to play. It definitely looked as if momentum was with the Wildcats, who had won the most games in state history.
But 45 seconds later, junior Connor King got the game winner for the Eagles when he put the puck past goaltender Matt Kovesdy after a scramble in front of the net with 5:29 to go."It squirted out to me and I back-doored it," said King, who credited teammates Gabe Lampron and C.J. Hoy for keeping the puck alive. "A big factor all season has been working through adversity. Don't let one loss define your season."
However, that sole defeat is what St. Ignatius has to deal with. Geither, with 56 goals this season, could only throw his gloves to the boards in disappointment at the final buzzer.
Utter dejection filled the Wildcats.
"When you shoot for glory, when your goal is the state championship, this is the risk you take of possibly getting crushed," said St. Ignatius coach Pat O'Rourke. "We'll gladly take our chances in the district championship game every year.
"When we got the second goal, I thought we had something going. The next shift they got it right back. I wish we had one more week together."
Instead, the Eagles will prepare for University School in Saturday's state semifinal at noon at Nationwide Arena in Columbus. The Preppers defeated the Eagles twice this season.
St. Edward scored twice in 90 seconds late in the first period, senior Mick Bartholomew converting in close with 3:57 to go. With Geither off the ice on a penalty, Lampron scored on the power play when he put home a rebound at 2:27.
The Wildcats cut the deficit on senior Mike Abood's score during a power play with 7:15 left in the second period off assists by Spellacy and Geither.
Down the stretch, Geither nearly put home a backhander with two minutes left.
"We just outworked them today," said St. Edward senior goaltender Logan Galati, who matched Kovesdy with 38 saves. "Our defense did a good job of not giving them good shots. When they started their run, we had to get back to work."
A game like this was to be expected. St. Edward won here in six overtimes, 3-2, in the 2009 district final.
To reach this Plain Dealer reporter: jmaxse@plaind.com, 216-999-5168
On Twitter: @JoeMaxse
Wow, congrats to Eds on an amazing (though not entirely surprising) win.
Next up for St. Edward: University School, another Red North team the Eagles are win-less against on the year. Can they make it three in a row against such opponents?
The Eagles need to keep playing that 1980 tape from Lake Placid. ;)
Can they stay together :grouphug: and believe in miracles :angel:
Bennies'01
03-03-12, 10:05 PM
The Eagles need to keep playing that 1980 tape from Lake Placid. ;)
Can they stay together :grouphug: and believe in miracles :angel:
Just like the 1980 squad that actually still had to go and beat Finland to win the gold medal.
MikeWilliams
03-03-12, 11:31 PM
Go eagles !!
ChilliWildcat
03-04-12, 06:50 AM
Another example that the records mean nothing when our schools meet in any competion (except wrestling). Congrats to Saint Edwards. This one stings but still enjoying the gridiron championship.
CatAlum
03-04-12, 09:30 AM
I chatted with an Ed's buddy this morning and we agreed that the PD sports page had things in proper perspective...buried hockey story and a HUGE picture of George DiCamillo on page 1! :D
EaglePride01
03-04-12, 10:20 AM
Congrats to the Eagle hockey team. Another chapter written in the storied rivalry. Remain focused and lets make it a dozen!
eaglepride
03-04-12, 03:39 PM
Who's left in the final four?
You have to laugh at the poster that posted "Oh how the eagles have fallen"..Where is he now? Yes, the team isn't the same since Bob Whidden retired, but you have to give credit to the coaches and players for their hard work.
Beating an undefeated St. Ignatius after losing three times prior speaks volumes to the St. Edward hockey program. Congrats on yet another final four appearance. Let's hope the student body supports these kids and shows up.
eaglepride
03-04-12, 03:44 PM
US
St. Ed's
Sylvania Northview
Olentangy Orange
MikeWilliams
03-04-12, 06:53 PM
I chatted with an Ed's buddy this morning and we agreed that the PD sports page had things in proper perspective...buried hockey story and a HUGE picture of George DiCamillo on page 1! :D
haha..my mom called to tell me about that...she's convinced that the PD is run by Ignatius grads...I think she's on to something
WarriorDee
03-05-12, 07:48 AM
I chatted with an Ed's buddy this morning and we agreed that the PD sports page had things in proper perspective...buried hockey story and a HUGE picture of George DiCamillo on page 1! :D
Hey, don't get me wrong like George as much as the next fan of wrestling, but why was George even on the front page? :shrug:
irisheagle
03-05-12, 08:54 AM
A report from several sources indicate that Iggy has recruited a star forward from an Oregon Jesuit school, he is currently a Junior. He holds the state record for goals scored. The hockey player is moving to Iggy for academic purposes only and is going to live in the Hope House.
Hope House has been used in the past by Iggy to house athletes.
eaglepride
03-05-12, 09:13 AM
Ouch.
The once-mighty eagles.....
what's happening in lakewood?
They are playing in the final four this weekend against US. :D :laugh:
Hats off to Coach Gray and his staff for keeping the team's heads in this latest win all game, I felt in the first two games even with the lead we grew desperate and started trying to make "do or die" plays when we didn't have to, which resulted in two losses to the cats, I can't comment on the game in Meadville because I wasn't there.
I know I had some deja vu feelings at the start of the 3rd period with the lead yet again but the Eagles maintained composure and completed the game, great coaching job!
CatAlum
03-05-12, 09:16 PM
Hope House has been used in the past by Iggy to house athletes.
Fill me in on Hope House. I'd love to learn more from someone who has the scoop. Who lives there? How many? Do they all go to Ignatius? Are they all athletes? Rich? Poor? Real poor?
slammer20
03-06-12, 08:18 AM
Great article about the Ed's/Ignatius rivalry and recent district hockey contest...
dcoughlin.wordpress.com
Regarding a few of the posts above...
1. George D. deserved to be on the PD front page mentioned with the DI northeast wrestling champions for the season accomplishment he had. Undefeated season and multiple state champion... arguably the most decorated wrestler in NE Ohio in 2011-2012.
2. Can't begrudge Ignatius graduates for finding a professional home at the PD.
3. Hope House comment? Both schools have enjoyed out of state transfers into the school that have helped athletic endeavors over the years. I recall names like Goltz and Maynard having a positive athletic impact at good old SEHS as well.
But that's why they call it a rivalry... it's nice to poke the opponent to get a reaction, just ask CatAlum.
cpc5304
03-06-12, 10:39 PM
Dicamillo hasn't lost a scholastic match since the state semifinals his sophomore year, while competing in tough weight classes and tournaments. Kid is tough as nails.
That being said, I don't think I have ever relished in an Ed's victory in hockey before, but I sure enjoyed this one. Hope springs eternal for a state title in Lakewood and Hunting Valley!
There is some good hockey coverage in today's PD!
Coach Troy Gray is 2-for-2 in taking his St. Edward hockey team to the state semifinals in Columbus. However, there is one barrier the second-year coach has yet to overcome.
He is winless in five games against University School, the Eagles' opponent Saturday at Nationwide Arena. In fact, St. Edward has lost 10 straight games to the Preppers since the 2008-09 season.
Gray and 14-year US coach Bill Baird are longtime friends and both think either streak will add up to much this time around.
"We've had changes and they've had changes," said Gray, whose losses to US this season were both in December by scores of 4-2 and 4-3. "Both teams have gotten guys back. Both have gotten better. I know I haven't beaten him."
"You can throw those games away," Baird said of the December contests. "Neither team is the same. We're completely different and so are they. Arguably, they are the hottest team in the state after beating No. 1 [St. Ignatius]."
The last St. Edward win against US was in the 2008 Baron Cup title game, 3-0.
In denial: Gray has a way of denying perfection. His club handed St. Ignatius (39-1) its only loss last Saturday. Gray was playing for St. Edward when the Eagles gave Cleveland Heights (30-1) its only loss, 6-5, in the 1986 state title game.
US' Baird was a Cleveland Heights assistant.
Fifth meeting at state: This will be the fifth meeting between St. Edward and US in the state semifinals. St. Edward won championship games in 2002 and '04, with the Preppers taking the title game in 2003. US won a state semifinal in 2009 on its way to the championship.
Runner-up blues: Sylvania Northview is making its ninth trip to the state semifinals. The Wildcats have yet to take home the big trophy.
They lost to St. Ignatius (2010), Padua (2006), St. Edward (1990) and Kent Roosevelt (1982) in championship games. Their semifinal losses were to Padua (1989), St. Edward (1987, 1986) and Shaker Heights (1981).
Shaker Heights, under coach Mike Bartley, went on to post a 29-0 mark, the only undefeated team in state history.
TV: SportsTime Ohio will televise Sunday's championship game on tape delay at 5 p.m. STO will have same-day replays of Saturday's semifinals at 7 and 9 p.m.
-- Joe Maxse
OHSAA boys ice hockey: St. Edward in a defensive zone heading into state semifinal
Joe Maxse, Plain Dealer Reporter, March 09, 2012
Now comes the hard part.
After handing record-setting rival St. Ignatius its only loss of the season Saturday, St. Edward has to come up with an encore. In fact, two of them.
The Eagles will need to win a pair of games to claim their record 12th state hockey championship. They have to get the first victory Saturday when they take on longtime opponent University School in a state semifinal at Nationwide Arena in Columbus.
While they are still feeling flush after ruining the Wildcats' quest for perfection at 39-1, the Eagles' 3-2 win Saturday in the Brooklyn District final is already on its historical fade. If St. Edward is going to make it a dozen titles, or "12 in '12," it will have to accomplish the goal as it has all season -- with defense.
"From day one as a freshman, whether we win 1-0 or 10-0, it's all about not giving up goals," said senior defenseman and assistant captain Chris Day.
"That's been built into us. We don't have one guy running the show. We have 20 guys getting the job done."
That has definitely been the case during the Eagles' four-game tournament run.
Obviously, holding the high-scoring Wildcats, who totaled 240 goals this season, to two goals was huge. But it was especially evident in a 2-1 overtime win over Shaker Heights in the district semifinal when the Raiders held a man-advantage for five minutes, the final three of regulation and first two of overtime, and could not score.
"All four guys have to know where everybody is in the rotation," Day said of his club's penalty-killing prowess. "When we held them the first two minutes of the overtime, that's when we felt we had the momentum."
The Eagles won it on a goal by junior Gabe Lampron 90 seconds after killing off the penalty.
That's how it was supposed to work for all the defensemen, seniors Matt Geib, Alex Norton and Josh Greenaker, along with juniors Andy Schroeck and Patrick Flannery.
"We knew what we had to do to get back to last year," said Geib, making a second straight trip to Columbus. "We are not the most flamboyant team. We come up with those greasy goals -- the game-winners."
Senior goaltenders Logan Galati and Andrew Smith, the last line of defense, can't be overlooked. Galati has made 32 and 38 saves, respectively, the past two games.
"You always expect them to make one more pass, especially a team like Ignatius," said Galati, of his thoughts when going against an extra skater. "We would rather have a guy take a shot outside than have one in front. I think our defense is just as good as last year."
That was supposed to be the case as coach Troy Gray expected to have seven senior defensemen returning. However, injury sidelined Marty Clancy and two others left for junior hockey.
"We had no room for error," said Gray, in his second season. "They had to stay healthy and log a lot of ice. The defensemen are not the glory guys. They have done all the dirty work when we had to have it. We are not getting in any shootouts."
In going 8-2-1 down the stretch, the Eagles have allowed 15 goals.
To reach this Plain Dealer reporter: jmaxse@plaind.com, 216-999-5168
Where: Nationwide Arena, Columbus.
When: Saturday and Sunday.
Saturday: St. Edward (19-12-3) vs. University School (23-9-3), noon; Lewis Center Olentangy Orange (34-8) vs. Sylvania Northview (29-1-3), 3 p.m.
Sunday: Championship game, 11 a.m.
TV on SportsTime Ohio: St. Ed vs. US, same-day tape, 7 p.m. Saturday; Olentangy Orange vs. Northview, same-day tape, 9 p.m. Saturday; Championship game, same-day tape, 5 p.m. Sunday.
Tickets: $10 adults; $8 students.
St. Edward outlook: The Eagles are coming off stirring 3-2 victory over previously-undefeated St. Ignatius in the Brooklyn District final. They have gone about their business against a rugged schedule just as they did a year ago in reaching the title game. The Eagles are making their record 20th state semifinals appearance, with a record 11 titles. They were denied a 12th last year by Toledo St. Francis in overtime, 2-1. After losing to Lake Catholic in the Baron Cup, St. Edward has outscored four tournament opponents, 19-5. Defense has been key, especially in a 2-1 overtime win over Shaker Heights in the district semifinal and against the Wildcats. Senior C.J. Hoy has 21 goals and 22 assists, with junior Connor King at 19 goals and 26 assists and junior Gabe Lampron at 17 goals and 28 assists. Senior goaltender Logan Galati has been sure in the postseason, especially tested in the past two wins. The Eagles have found a way to come up with the clutch goal.
University School outlook: The Preppers are making their 10th trip to the state semifinals, all since 1990. They have been here eight times in the past 11 seasons, with championships in 2009 and '03. After a Baron Cup loss to Shaker Heights, they have knocked off four tournament foes by a combined, 29-4. US defeated Gilmour Academy in the Kent District final, 4-2. The club got a nice boost with the return of senior captain Matt Wipper, who missed 13 games with a concussion. Wipper has 21 goals and 17 assists. Junior Tyler Dalton leads the club with 34 goals and 23 assists, with senior Kevin DeGulis at 16 goals and 40 assists. Senior Brad Marshall has 11 goals. Four other players have double-digit assists. Senior goaltender Sam Althans has allowed less than two goals per game in going 17-4. The Preppers have won their past 10 meetings against the Eagles, including an overtime win in a 2009 state semifinal. They are getting healthy at the right time.
Olentangy Orange outlook: The Pioneers are making their first state semifinals appearance for a program that is only four years old. They knocked off Dublin Jerome in four overtimes, 4-3. Olentangy has seven players with double-digit goals, totaling 184 as a team. Jake Shepherd leads the club with 33 goals and 34 assists, with Nick Murley at 31 goals and 20 assists. Dar Faroughy has 27 goals and team-high 36 assists. Dino Cappocia (18 goals), Taylor Hardy (14), Chris Pennington (13) and Brandon Voytus (10) round out the scorers. The goaltending has been split between Chase Green (14-1) and Clay Horvath (15-7), with Eddie Kerbler at 5-0.
Sylvania Northview outlook: Making its ninth state semifinals, the Wildcats have had to settle for four runner-up finishes, including a 2010 loss to St. Ignatius. They have won 23 straight, knocking off Toledo St. John's Jesuit for the fourth time this season in the district final, 2-1. Their lone loss was to Dublin Jerome, 4-2, with ties against Hudson, Lake Catholic and a scoreless affair with University School. Dalton Carter paces the scoring with 21 points and 23 assists. Cody Estrel has 20 goals and 24 assists, with Zach Felser at 19 goals and a team-high 34 assists. Nick Laplante (14 goals), Drew Crandall (13), Brady Storer (12) and Ian Clement (11) are in the mix. Austin Gryca (15-0-1) and Phil Bowles (14-1-2) have been splitting time in the net. Coach Mike Jones said the goalkeeper would be a game-time decision.
-- Joe Maxse
OHSAA boys ice hockey analysis: How St. Edward defeated St. Ignatius
Joe Maxse
Plain Dealer Reporter
The St. Edward hockey faithful were in full throttle before Saturday's district final showdown against rival St. Ignatius.
"Thirty-nine and one! Thirty-nine and one!"
Hey, the Wildcats could have been 0-39 and the Eagles' partisans would have been quick to cheer, "Zero and Forty!"
But with St. Ignatius, already with the most wins in state history, trying to become the second team in state history to go undefeated, this had the makings of something special. That's just what the packed crowd of just more than 2,000 at the Brooklyn Recreation Center got.
On paper it may have looked as if the Wildcats were a lock to win and advance to this week's state semifinals. After all, they had defeated the Eagles three times this season.
Here's how the Eagles pulled off the 3-2 upset:
• They capitalized on early chances, scoring two goals within 90 seconds of the first period. The second came on a power play.
• They committed only two penalties. St. Edward had been prone to picking up too many silly fouls during the season.
• They focused on St. Ignatius senior Paddy Spellacy, who had 42 goals coming in and 134 for his career. At one point, four Eagles collapsed on Spellacy when he crossed the blue line.
• They were familiar with the Wildcats from the three previous games.
• They kept the pressure on, not only with the early lead, but also by matching the Wildcats with 38 shots.
• They got excellent goaltending from senior Logan Galati. A hot goalie in the playoffs is more than a luxury.
• They kept their composure when the Wildcats tied the game, 2-2, with 6:15 to play. Junior Connor King needed only 45 seconds to put the Eagles back on top.
• They played with nothing to lose.
• They had the chip on their shoulder that no one respected their game or tradition. After all, St. Edward has won a record 11 state championships.
It was only an upset if you wanted it to be one.
-- Joe Maxse
I hope the euphoria from last week was held in check by some tough practices this week, the goal is to be the last team standing on Sunday.
fballfan
03-09-12, 09:24 PM
here is the audio link for Saturday's state semi-final game between St. Ed's and US.
http://www.ihigh.com/stedward/
EagleSE
03-10-12, 10:38 AM
Good luck Eagles !!
EagleSE
03-10-12, 11:38 AM
End of one 0-0 against US. Shots on goal US 6 St. Eds 5.
EagleSE
03-10-12, 11:59 AM
St. Eds down 2-0 on two power plays with 8 minutes to go in second.
EagleSE
03-10-12, 12:24 PM
End of second US leads 2-0. Shots on goal 16 US 16 St. Eds
EagleSE
03-10-12, 12:40 PM
Eagles scores on a power play goal wih 9 minutes in the third, US leads 2-1.
EagleSE
03-10-12, 12:54 PM
Eagles pull their goalie and tie it at 2-2 with less then a minute to go...
EagleSE
03-10-12, 01:03 PM
Eagles heading into overtime in state semi-finals...for second year in a row.
Eagles win in OT 3-2!
Down 2-0 in the 3rd and coming back and heading to the State Championship on Sunday!
arizonawildcat
03-10-12, 01:10 PM
Go Eagles!!!!
EagleSE
03-10-12, 01:16 PM
Second year in a row the Eagles win an Overtime game to advance to the Ice Hockey finals, last year over fellow Holy Cross school Gilmour Academy.
jlach22
03-10-12, 01:20 PM
W.A.R. Eagles. Nice job boys.
EagleFan
03-10-12, 01:21 PM
Another nice win by the Eagles! 3rd win in a row against a team they did not beat in the regular season.
A win tomorrow pulls them into a tie with St. Xavier for most boys OHSAA team titles ever (44).
EagleFan
03-10-12, 01:30 PM
Another nice win by the Eagles! 3rd win in a row against a team they did not beat in the regular season.
The Eagles will likely have to make that 4 in a row since they lost to Sylvania Northview in the Padua Holiday tourney earlier this season.
slammer20
03-10-12, 01:32 PM
Great win for the Eagles... let's get the 12th tomorrow.
Best of luck!
OHSAA hockey: St. Edward Defeats University School in Overtime to Advance to State Championship Game Sunday
Joe Maxse
The Plain Dealer
March 10, 2012
Columbus - St. Edward rallied to defeat University School in overtime, 3-2, on Saturday in a state semifinal hockey game at Nationwide Arena. Senior Gabe Lampron scored with 21 seconds left in the first overtime sesssion to win it. The Eagles (20-12-3) will play the winner of the Sylvania Northview/Olentangy Orange game on Sunday for the championship at 11 a.m. St. Edward rallied from a 2-0 deficit after two periods to get the win. US scored two power-play goals in the second period. Senior defenseman Conner Judson scored with 13:44 left in the period. Senior teammate Matt Wipper converted less than two minutes later, with the Eagles once again playing shorthanded. The Eagles cut the deficit on a power-play goal by senior Matt Geib with 12:10 to play in the third period. They tied it on a score by senior defenseman Alex Norton with 1:19 to play. After a review, the goal was allowed. St. Edward will be seeking its 12th state title.
arizonawildcat
03-10-12, 02:00 PM
Congrats Ed's. On to the state title!
Br. Joe
03-10-12, 02:21 PM
OHSAA hockey: St. Edward Defeats University School in Overtime to Advance to State Championship Game Sunday
Joe Maxse
The Plain Dealer
March 10, 2012
Columbus - St. Edward rallied to defeat University School in overtime, 3-2, on Saturday in a state semifinal hockey game at Nationwide Arena. Senior Gabe Lampron scored with 21 seconds left in the first overtime sesssion to win it. The Eagles (20-12-3) will play the winner of the Sylvania Northview/Olentangy Orange game on Sunday for the championship at 11 a.m. St. Edward rallied from a 2-0 deficit after two periods to get the win. US scored two power-play goals in the second period. Senior defenseman Conner Judson scored with 13:44 left in the period. Senior teammate Matt Wipper converted less than two minutes later, with the Eagles once again playing shorthanded. The Eagles cut the deficit on a power-play goal by senior Matt Geib with 12:10 to play in the third period. They tied it on a score by senior defenseman Alex Norton with 1:19 to play. After a review, the goal was allowed. St. Edward will be seeking its 12th state title.
Any idea what the controversy was? Was it just a review of whether the puck crossed the line?
cpc5304
03-10-12, 04:44 PM
Guh. Great way to close be the Eagles. That program is so amazingly (and frustratingly) resilient. They are never out of a game, and are always state title contendors- every year. Congrats to them.
eaglepride
03-10-12, 05:00 PM
Thanks for the kind words. By the way; that new addition currently being built at university school is incredible!
ChilliWildcat
03-10-12, 06:24 PM
From an Iggy grad, congrats and good luck in the finals.
Number 12 in 2012!!
EagleSE
03-10-12, 09:24 PM
Any idea what the controversy was? Was it just a review of whether the puck crossed the line?
From what I understand, the puck crossed the goal line, but a US player reached inside the line and knocked the puck out of the goal with his hand.
fballfan
03-11-12, 09:17 AM
here is the audio link for Sunday's state final between St. Ed's and Northview.
http://www.ihigh.com/stedward/
EaglePride01
03-11-12, 10:20 AM
Eagles down 1-0 on an early goal, but they are getting some shots on goal.
EaglePride01
03-11-12, 10:31 AM
Northview scores again at the end of the 1st period for a 2-0 lead. Familiar territory for the Eagles. Time to buckle down. We are getting a lot of shots on goal though.
EaglePride01
03-11-12, 10:56 AM
3-0 Northview. Not looking good.
EaglePride01
03-11-12, 11:24 AM
Still down 3-0 going into the third. Eagles are outshooting Northview, but can't find the back of the net.
EaglePride01
03-11-12, 11:32 AM
Northview scores on a power play to make it 4-0. That might do it.
ToledoXC
03-11-12, 11:38 AM
Northwest Ohio will take their 3rd title in 6 years and 2nd in a row. Way to go Northview!!!
EaglePride01
03-11-12, 11:52 AM
4-1 with a little over 3 min. remaining.
EaglePride01
03-11-12, 11:56 AM
Eagles score with 49 seconds left. 4-2. Pulling the goalie.
EaglePride01
03-11-12, 11:58 AM
Northview scores on open net. 5-2 final. That will do it. 29 saves for Northview goalie. Great effort. Congrats on your first title. Good run for the Eagles.
EagleFan
03-11-12, 12:03 PM
Northview has been there a lot and finally gets the first title (in any sport). Congrats on a great season!
EagleSE
03-11-12, 03:30 PM
Congrats to Northview, they certainly skated well and played hard. They deserved the state title.
CatAlum
03-11-12, 05:39 PM
While nothing will be done, something SHOULD be done. Northview, obviously a very good team, nevertheless only had to play one serious game to make it to the state title (TSJ). This is especially a problem in a sport where the bounce of the puck can decide winners and losers in competitive games.
Heck, there are only about 7 or 8 real competitors for this title. Can't we do better?
ToledoXC
03-11-12, 05:56 PM
While nothing will be done, something SHOULD be done. Northview, obviously a very good team, nevertheless only had to play one serious game to make it to the state title (TSJ). This is especially a problem in a sport where the bounce of the puck can decide winners and losers in competitive games.
Heck, there are only about 7 or 8 real competitors for this title. Can't we do better?
Bottom line is that hockey is a rich mans sport and
Only private schools and public schools in high soceoeconomic areas have a chance to win it.
slammer20
03-12-12, 07:06 AM
Congrats to this Eagle squad for a fine 2011-2012 season.
thedutchman
03-12-12, 07:27 AM
While nothing will be done, something SHOULD be done. Northview, obviously a very good team, nevertheless only had to play one serious game to make it to the state title (TSJ). This is especially a problem in a sport where the bounce of the puck can decide winners and losers in competitive games.
Heck, there are only about 7 or 8 real competitors for this title. Can't we do better?
Logistics and travel costs probably make the district system necessary. That said, setting up a rotation of the brackets for the final 4 may be a fairer system. Clearly the way the brackets play out now is an advantage to the NW champion as the Central & SW champion typically is not competitive with the NW & NE champion. I suppose that OHSAA doesn't do that because they want to avoid an all NE final. Not sure why as I doubt it impacts the gate. Nonetheless, with the possible exception of lacrosse no other team sport is so disproportional in the talent level from district to district.
EagleSE
03-12-12, 07:27 AM
While nothing will be done, something SHOULD be done. Northview, obviously a very good team, nevertheless only had to play one serious game to make it to the state title (TSJ). This is especially a problem in a sport where the bounce of the puck can decide winners and losers in competitive games.
Heck, there are only about 7 or 8 real competitors for this title. Can't we do better?
Certainly the state could rotate district match-ups for the state tournament which would pit one of the Cleveland districts against Columbus one year, the next against Toledo and the third year against Cleveland.
I do understand how the state wants to involve the Columbus/Cincy area in a final four game, the sport needs to grow in those areas. It will take time, but those schools are getting better and more competitive. 25 years ago there were only a couple of teams in the Columbus/Cincy area, now there are more.
I believe they used to switch what districts played each other in the semis a few years ago because I remember Ed's playing Moeller in the Frozen Four, although somewhere in the early to mid 2000s I believe most state championship games had 2 Cleveland area teams in the Finals, from '02 to '04 it was Ed's vs. US, '05 it was Ed's vs Shaker. That was also right around when they moved the Frozen Four to Nationwide Arena and I believe re-drew the districts so that there was a Central/Southern district.
slewfoot
03-12-12, 09:36 AM
OHSHAA pulls name out of a hat every year for district matchups.
Purely luck of the draw....
EagleSE
03-12-12, 10:19 AM
OHSHAA pulls name out of a hat every year for district matchups.
Purely luck of the draw....
I don't believe that anymore, just because the odds have to be against Cleveland playing Cleveland. But there is no reason to pull the names, a rotation can be set up and followed so there is "no more luck of the draw".
CatAlum
03-12-12, 12:27 PM
I do understand how the state wants to involve the Columbus/Cincy area in a final four game, the sport needs to grow in those areas. It will take time, but those schools are getting better and more competitive. 25 years ago there were only a couple of teams in the Columbus/Cincy area, now there are more.
Is there actually any evidence that hockey is getting better south of US 30? It appears that there are more teams, but better?
How about a seeded 8 team, double elimination tournament in Columbus over two weekends with a guarantee of only one team per region? This year, you would have had Northview, St. John, Ed's, Ignatius, US, Gilmour, Shaker, and the team from Columbus/Cincy? Two from Toledo, two from Kent, three from Brooklyn, one from C-bus.
Put everyone else in a single-elimination statewide tourney.
FormerWildcat
03-12-12, 10:47 PM
I don't think the pattern you guys are assuming is actually true every year like it has been the last two. In fact, Ignatius' 2010 state title featured essentially duplicate scores in the state semis.
http://www.ohsaa.org/sports/ih/boys/results/2010/results10.htm
In 2009, Toledo St. John's had an easy 7-0 semifinal win against Centerville, but still lost to University School in the state championship.
http://www.ohsaa.org/sports/ih/boys/results/2009/results09.htm
The state semifinal games in 2008 had exactly duplicate scores.
http://www.ohsaa.org/sports/ih/boys/results/2008/results08.htm
The state semis in 2007 were both very competitive.
http://www.ohsaa.org/sports/ih/boys/results/2007/results07.htm
In 2006, Padua barely beat Northview in the state championship in OT, even though Padua beat UA 7-4 in the semis and Northview beat University School 2-1 in the semis.
http://www.ohsaa.org/sports/ih/boys/results/2006/results06.htm
Both state semifinals in 2005 were blowouts as well.
http://www.ohsaa.org/sports/ih/boys/results/2005/results05.htm
I really don't think the state semifinals are having a material impact on who actually wins the state championship.
ToledoXC
03-13-12, 09:06 AM
Just some bitter Northeast fans that are trying to rationalize why the Northwest has been kicking their butts.
I guess the point is, given your choice in this year's semifinals, who would you have rather played? US or Olentangy Orange?
Also, unfortunately for the South/Central district, until someone from that district wins a semifinal game I think the power of the state will be firmly entrenched in the North, whether that's Toledo or Cleveland. The scores might look competitive but all those years and scores listed aren't showing that no team from Cleveland or Toledo expected to lose to a team from the South district.
irisheagle
03-13-12, 06:29 PM
What a season, knocking out Iggy (39-1) and then going on to defeat University School in the state semifinal.
Coach Gray congratulations on another outstanding season, you are probably the only Ohio coach to lead your team to two consecutive final games in your first two years of coaching.
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