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aquacard

11-02-10, 02:08 PM

Can UA overthrow SC for the crown? Who will step up and be the top dogs in their respective events this year? Who are the young guns who will burst onto the scene and throw their hat in with the established names this year?

Get excited. February will be here before we know it!

Since the other thread has moved away from exbear's original question; I thought it appropriate to restart.

Looking just at what is returning from 2010 and removing the 2010 Seniors here's where things start:

Total District Individual Swim and Dive Opportunites -181 of the 270 swimming and diving qualifying positions return for 2011

By Event it breaks down as follows:
200 Free - 21 swimmers return - of those UA has 3; SC, Thomas & Kilbourne each have 2
200 IM - 27 swimmers return - of those SC & UA each have 3; Thomas, Liberty, & NA have 2 each
50 Free - 14 swimmers return - UA has 2
Diving - 19 divers return - Gahanna & Jerome have 3 each
100 Fly - 20 swimmers return - SC has 3; UA, Thomas, NA have 2 each
100 Free - 13 swimmers return- SC has 3
500 Free - 22 swimmers return - UA, SC, Thomas & Kilbourne have 3 each
100 Back - 25 swimmers return - UA has 4; NA has 3
100 Breast - 20 swimmers return - SC & UA each have 3
Total Returning Points (Ind. Qualifiers) - SC 260(13); UA 258(12); Thomas 120(9); Liberty 88(7); Kilbourne 49(5); & NA 49(8)

Looks like things could be tight like last year in the race for the team championship. Of course improvement in returners, impact freshman and relay performance will change the outlook. Anyway, it is closer than I would have imagined looking at the seniors lost by SC & UA. Based on this I doubt SC is ready to concede the District Title to UA!

scwat

11-02-10, 04:36 PM

Relay results will definitely be a key as to who takes the boys district title. SC lost a few more senior relay members from 2010. Neither UA nor SC can expect to win the district without taking at least one relay.

rjones

11-04-10, 12:56 PM

preeder61

11-04-10, 01:34 PM

That's right. UA will win all 3 relays and win the district by 50 points or more!

While UA is dominating, why not take 1-2-3 in all of the individual events and get coach of the year as well! ;)

aquacard

11-04-10, 03:27 PM

That's right. UA will win all 3 relays and win the district by 50 points or more!

I'm not so sure about this. Aside from SC who won't roll over, I think Thomas Worthington has the potential for some pretty fast freestyle relays. UA's strength is in the longer races. At least going in, they don't have impressive sprint & 100 freestylers. Spangler & Lowery are gone.

bhs warrior

11-04-10, 04:48 PM

That's right. UA will win all 3 relays and win the district by 50 points or more!

Mr. Jones are u talking about the lady bears ? What is that i here marching .
Are the men at UA starting so early ? I hope the march for the ua mens swim team ends:Party: better than the water polo march.

exbear09

11-04-10, 11:23 PM

Geoff Dickhaut is joining the swim team for his sophomore year. Just looking at the kid during the polo season, he is an incredibly promising athlete, and should help out UA's already promising team. Maybe he could help boost a depleted sprint-free group?

Are there any other new additions/young-guns to be on the lookout for this season in the central district?

scwat

11-05-10, 07:45 AM

I think Thomas Worthington has the potential for some pretty fast freestyle relays.

It would be interesting if there was a potential spoiler in there. If TW can beat both UA and SC, good for them. It would also be interesting if they finished between the two, which would be a big differential in relay points and affect the team totals. Who are the prospective TW freestylers that would make up a long or short relay?

preeder61

11-05-10, 11:36 AM

It would be interesting if there was a potential spoiler in there. If TW can beat both UA and SC, good for them. It would also be interesting if they finished between the two, which would be a big differential in relay points and affect the team totals. Who are the prospective TW freestylers that would make up a long or short relay?

Good question. I can think of two solid and three fighting for the other two spots. With Sam Reeder and Jesus Caraballo as the two, we have the potential of a 20 point high/21 high first half and a 22/23 back half of the 200 relay, maybe 1:28 and possibly four under 50 in the 400 with a 3:12. All speculation. I am sure that the TW guys would love to be the spoiler.

rjones

11-05-10, 12:09 PM

While UA is dominating, why not take 1-2-3 in all of the individual events and get coach of the year as well! ;)

They may do just that in the 200 & 500. And when they retake the District crown de Bear will be coach of the year!

exbear09

11-05-10, 12:16 PM

They may do just that in the 200 & 500. And when they retake the District crown de Bear will be coach of the year!

There is no question that the talent is there and the coaching is unquestionably there to take the district. De Bear will have them ready, it'll just come down to how bad they want it, and if they can get through the year without any issues that would change who will be swimming. The Bears have shot themselves in the foot a couple times in the not so recent past, and that can't happen if you want to reach your potential.

scwat

11-05-10, 12:37 PM

Exbear, is it possible that a distance swimmer or two will move down to sprints? Cutler seems to be pretty versatile.

exbear09

11-05-10, 01:37 PM

Exbear, is it possible that a distance swimmer or two will move down to sprints? Cutler seems to be pretty versatile.

To be honest, I have no clue. All of the distance guys can hold their own in any free distance except the 50, just from the way training with Stewart worked. That being said, I would bet if the guys have their way they will go for a sweep of the distance events (regardless of what would get the most points) so we'll have to see. It wouldn't surprise me at all to see something completely unexpected from the Bears this year because of the new coach and the fact that they are all fairly versatile and there are definatly some holes that need to be filled that are gonna have to be filled if this years team wants to achieve the high hopes people seem to have. It is very possible, but there is definatly gonna have to be a little shakin things up to get the pieces to fall into place.

thedutchman

11-08-10, 03:07 PM

Exbear, is it possible that a distance swimmer or two will move down to sprints? Cutler seems to be pretty versatile.

Interesting thought. St. X did that with Will Lawley who swam the 500 his freshman, sophomore and junior year and then swam the 100 his senior year.

swimfan

11-09-10, 10:03 AM

The UA boys swam well at the Golden Bear. Also thought Dolgov looked particularly good. Any other bright spots that I missed?

preeder61

11-09-10, 12:57 PM

Dolgov was clearly the standout of the meet, 4:46 in the 500, 1:59 in the IM, 54+ in his off event, the 100 back. Good kid as well.

thedutchman

11-09-10, 04:48 PM

Not to take anything away from Dolgov because he had a great meet, but so did Joey Long - 4:46.60 in the 500 to touch out Dolgov; 49.83 in 100; & 2:02.56 in the IM. And he's only a sophomore as opposed to a senior. By the way, I think Dolgov will swim breast again this year & not the 500. He fired off a 1:01.18 last weekend.

preeder61

11-09-10, 05:04 PM

Long had a good meet as well, I just thought that the drops in PR's for Dolgov at the first meet are a good indication of how this year will go for him. I think that Long will win districts in the 200/500. Just surprised to see a 4:46 this early out of a non distance swimmer. Dolgov will also be the District favorite in the 2IM and breast. Can't wait for the Ned Reeb on 12/11

isweatchlorinewater

11-10-10, 02:30 AM

Can't wait for the Ned Reeb on 12/11

It will be interesting to see what the line-ups look like for the Ned Reeb. It is the perfect way to get a preview of the district meet, but entries are due before teams get a chance to see where the swimmers are at and put together the best possible line-up based on competition. Practice is great, but nothing can replace the experience of a meet, and coaches don't get the chance to see their kids in action before they have to decide who swims what at OSU. UA will be especially disadvantaged because it is de Bears first year as coach of that program and will only have the performances in practice and what he can gather from summer results and last season to go off of.

The Ned Reeb will be a great indicator of the strengths of the teams and a great competition, but the true competition will be in February when coaches have time to assess the swimmers and put together their strongest line-ups.

preeder61

11-10-10, 09:59 AM

For those interested in tracking one of the first USA meets this season with Central District HS swimmers. You can also click on the "Top Times" to see some action from the rest of the state.

http://www.swimconnection.com/oh/exec/MeetResultsDispatch?meetSeqNo=1013&teamCode=

rjones

11-11-10, 12:44 PM

What is that i here marching .
Are the men at UA starting so early ? I hope the march for the ua mens swim team ends:Party: better than the water polo march.

It will!

The UA boys swam well at the Golden Bear.

They've only just begun!

swimfan

11-22-10, 01:11 PM

Times from the Ohio State Swim Club's "Thanks for Giving" Fall Classic are up at http://www.teamunify.com/ohossc/UserFiles/File/Thanks%20for%20Giving%20Fall%20Classic%20results.p df

ImPartial

11-23-10, 12:25 PM

preeder61

11-23-10, 02:53 PM

Alex Miller, Kevin Lancki, Ty Perkins and Jacob Schuster all made the trip to Purdue with Miller the top scorer at 21 points.

On the other hand, Dak Stone, OSU's top recruit and Wisconsin high school record holder, came in with times in the 100/200 breaststroke of 55/2:01, swam the fall invite with times 1:00/2:14.

Difficult transitioning from HS to college, more intense training, not the fastest guy in the pool etc. added on to being away from home for the first time, trying to find out where to eat and do laundry and live with a bunch of guys who want to play video games all night, oh, and college academics. Every kid adapts in his/her own timeframe.

aquacard

11-25-10, 08:47 AM

I noticed from viewing recent club meet results, that UA swimmers Adam & Andrew Rabe & Nick Sievert are swimming with the Ohio State Swim Club instead of the UA club. Is this break in tradition and a new trend or just a result of dissatisfaction with Stewart?

bhs warrior

11-26-10, 08:43 PM

Fri Dec 3 rd, SC very young and lots of holes to fill.

BigSwimFan

11-27-10, 06:03 AM

Fri Dec 3 rd, SC very young and lots of holes to fill.

Where is that meet at? Should be fun to watch.

bhs warrior

11-27-10, 09:48 AM

Where is that meet at? Should be fun to watch.

At SC 5pm

BigSwimFan

11-27-10, 12:57 PM

At SC 5pm

Damn! I live in the Cincinnati area and not gonna drive up for a dual meet. Will look forward to the results.

btw how many club swimmers will be swimming that meet? I thought most kids had at least 1 more till the crossed over.

swimfan

12-02-10, 10:06 AM

Here are some articles previewing UA, Thomas, Kilbourne & New Albany for the upcoming season:

UA BOYS READY FOR SHOT AT ST. CHARLES http://www.thisweeknews.com/live/content/upperarlington/stories/2010/12/01/sports/boys-ready-for-shot-at-st--charles.html?sid=104

THOMAS TRAINING FOR BIG SEASON http://www.thisweeknews.com/live/content/worthington/stories/2010/12/01/sports/thomas-training-for-big-season.html?sid=104

WOLVES PLAN TO IMPROVE ON LAST YEAR http://www.thisweeknews.com/live/content/worthington/stories/2010/12/01/sports/wolves-plan-to-improve-on-last-year.html?sid=104

GIRLS TEAM RAISES DIVISION I OUTLOOK http://www.thisweeknews.com/live/content/newalbany/stories/2010/12/01/sports/girls-team-raises-division-i-outlook.html?sid=104

aquacard

12-04-10, 08:18 AM

scwat

12-04-10, 04:09 PM

Wow, the powers of the Central District get hammered in their respective openers. UA loses to University 117 to 66; StX beats SC 111 to 59. Granted it is early and their opponents are 2 of the top 3 teams in the state, but UA & SC think of themselves as top teams in the state too. When was the last time that both suffered such a shallacking in the same season?

Consider the fact that three of the major metropolitan areas in the state essentially have only one competitive swim team. Nobody in Cincinnati challenges X, nobody in Cleveland challenges US and nobody in Toledo challenges TSF. UA and St Charles are both solid teams but as they compete with each other, it will make it harder for them to compete at the state level.

rjones

12-21-10, 09:24 AM

For those who doubt UA’s resurgence check out Central District Top 10 D1 times and UA's dominance of the list:

200 Medley Relay:
1 Upper Arlington 1:38.77

200 Freestyle :
1 Joey Long Upper Arlington 1:45.27
2 Ryan Cutler Upper Arlington 1:46.53
4 Sean Neri Upper Arlington 1:48.33
5 Andrew Rabe Upper Arlington 1:48.97

200 Individual Medley :
2 Adam Rabe Upper Arlington 2:00.35
3 Ian Reardon Upper Arlington 2:02.03
6 Sean Neri Upper Arlington 2:03.48
7 Joey Long Upper Arlington 2:03.72

50 Freestyle :
4 Adam Rabe Upper Arlington :22.21
6 Andrew Rabe Upper Arlington :22.31

100 Butterfly :
4 Max Jelen Upper Arlington :54.32
5 Ryan Cutler Upper Arlington :54.33

100 Freestyle
4 Sean Neri Upper Arlington :48.99
5 Joey Long Upper Arlington :49.14
7 Andrew Rabe Upper Arlington :49.58
8 Adam Rabe Upper Arlington :49.63
9 Ryan Cutler Upper Arlington :49.73

500 Freestyle :
1 Joey Long Upper Arlington 4:44.63
2 Ryan Cutler Upper Arlington 4:49.15
3 Sean Neri Upper Arlington 4:50.99
7 Alex Chin Upper Arlington 5:01.76
8 Ian Reardon Upper Arlington 5:03.42

200 Freestyle Relay:
1 Upper Arlington 1:28.52

100 Backstroke:
1 Sean Neri Upper Arlington :53.99
4 Ian Reardon Upper Arlington :55.46
6 Thomas Trace Upper Arlington :55.86
9 Max Jelen Upper Arlington :56.24
10 Alex Chin Upper Arlington :56.34

Boys 100 Breaststroke:
2 Adam Rabe Upper Arlington 1:02.01
5 Ian Reardon Upper Arlington 1:03.57

400 Freestyle Relay:
1 Upper Arlington 3:15.85

UA’s most difficult task is how to set its district lineup. SC had a nice run, but after 4 years order is restored to the Central District.

aquacard

12-21-10, 12:50 PM

SC had a nice run, but after 4 years order is restored to the Central District.

In the interests of accuracy, St. Charles has won the last 5 District Meets. But you are correct that as things stand today UA is a prohibitive favorite to win the District. However, it's still December and things can change between now and February. Although UA will still be the favorite to win the meet; expect things to tighten by then and the meet to be competitive.

rjones

12-21-10, 04:35 PM

In the interests of accuracy, St. Charles has won the last 5 District Meets.

According to the newspaper it is 4. "UA came out on top against St. Charles in a home sectional last year, scoring 355 points to St. Charles' 351, but the following week, St. Charles scored 399.5 points to edge UA (399) for its fourth consecutive district title." Check it out at:

http://www.thisweeknews.com/live/content/upperarlington/stories/2010/12/01/sports/boys-ready-for-shot-at-st--charles.html?sid=104

mukisa

12-21-10, 04:46 PM

http://www.eteamz.com/scswim/news/index.cfm?id=3420505&cat=158754 - this was the 05-06 season where St. Charles won the District meet to start their current run.

If they won 05-06, 06-07, 07-08, 08-09, and then again in 09-10, then it would be 5.

That's if they won all the years in between, which seems to be the case.

thedutchman

12-21-10, 08:27 PM

Central District team scores for the last 6 years:

Upper Arlington 347, St. Charles 207 - 2005
St. Charles 429, Upper Arlington 304 - 2006
St. Charles 471, Upper Arlington 352 - 2007
St. Charles 524,Upper Arlington 292 - 2008
St. Charles 496, Upper Arlington 428 - 2009
St. Charles 399.5, Upper Arlington 399 - 2010

Shockingly it appears that the newspaper had it wrong.

rjones

12-22-10, 09:01 AM

4 or 5 doesn't really matter. The important thing is that it ends this year! UA is back on top...and that's the way it will stay!

preeder61

12-22-10, 06:33 PM

4 or 5 doesn't really matter. The important thing is that it ends this year! UA is back on top...and that's the way it will stay!

Great, we can give up now and not have to put the kids through the dreadful winter break training. I am so relieved that I don't have to ever worry about anyone else winning the Central District meet but UA.

How many District titles has UA won? Oh, well actually, it doesn't really matter.

scwat

12-22-10, 07:07 PM

I agree that the current showing for UA on Swimmeet.com is impressive. However, with closer inspection, 24 of the 29 listings come from just 6 swimmers. Obviously, someone making the list 4 or 5 times is impressive for that swimmer, but meaningless from a team perspective, since that person will swim only two individual events in the district meet. Also, there is only one listing from a UA freshman. I would agree that UA is probably the favorite for the Central District this year, but would not agree that "order is being restored". Concerning St Charles, they are off to a bit of a slow start. They have had some early season injuries and they will rely on a strong freshman class, a class that honestly has performed better than UAs. I would not count them out just yet.

BigSwimFan

12-23-10, 07:33 AM

preeder and scwat have made great points! Just because UA looks dominant on paper now doesn't mean anything. If they don't train right over these next few weeks it won't matter. Also the same guys can't swim every event. You cannot win a District Title with 6 swimmers. You have to have depth to win your District. See St. X every year in the SW. They have those guys at the top but they also have many more score in events that don't make it to State.

There is a lot of training/swimming to be done before you crown any team champ!

bhs warrior

12-26-10, 01:48 PM

SC vs UA JAN 7 AT UA. I KNOW MR. JONES SC WILL NOT SCORE ANY POINTS AND WILL DISBAND THE SWIM TEAM AFTER THIS MEET AND STICK TO WATER POLO. LOL

rjones

12-27-10, 12:54 PM

SC vs UA JAN 7 AT UA. I KNOW MR. JONES SC WILL NOT SCORE ANY POINTS

No, SC will score points...it will just be from placing 2, 3, 4 & 5...primarily 3, 4, & 5. It will be very one-sided!

preeder61

12-27-10, 03:26 PM

No, SC will score points...it will just be from placing 2, 3, 4 & 5...primarily 3, 4, & 5. It will be very one-sided!

Current rankings as a possible outcome

MR: UA 1:38 to 1:40
200 Free: UA, 1,2,3
200 IM: UA, 1,2,3
50: UA Rabe 22.21, SC Willi 22.26, UA Rabe 22.31, SC Polter 22.81
Fly: SC Willi 54.14, UA Jelen 54.32, UA Cutler 54.33, SC Swanson 54.53
100 Free: UA 1,2,3
500 Free: UA 1,2,3
200 FR: UA 1:28, SC 1:29
Back: UA Neri 53.99, UA Reardon 55.46, UA Trace 55.86, SC Swanson 55.93
Breast: UA Rabe 1:02, SC McKinley 1:02, UA Reardon 1:03, SC D'angelo and Harath 1:04
400 FR: UA 3:15, SC 3:23

A lot of these are the same guys in each event, (UA: Long, Neri, Rabe, Rabe Reardon, SC: Willi, Swanson)

So it's de Bear vs. Gear on line-ups, the strategist wins.

thedutchman

12-28-10, 03:54 PM

Current rankings as a possible outcome

MR: UA 1:38 to 1:40
200 Free: UA, 1,2,3
200 IM: UA, 1,2,3
50: UA Rabe 22.21, SC Willi 22.26, UA Rabe 22.31, SC Polter 22.81
Fly: SC Willi 54.14, UA Jelen 54.32, UA Cutler 54.33, SC Swanson 54.53
100 Free: UA 1,2,3
500 Free: UA 1,2,3
200 FR: UA 1:28, SC 1:29
Back: UA Neri 53.99, UA Reardon 55.46, UA Trace 55.86, SC Swanson 55.93
Breast: UA Rabe 1:02, SC McKinley 1:02, UA Reardon 1:03, SC D'angelo and Harath 1:04
400 FR: UA 3:15, SC 3:23

A lot of these are the same guys in each event, (UA: Long, Neri, Rabe, Rabe Reardon, SC: Willi, Swanson)

So it's de Bear vs. Gear on line-ups, the strategist wins.

Based on this, rjones may not be far off...for once. But then again there's a reason that they swim the meet. UA should win, but SC may make it closer than it looks to be on paper. It should give both teams a sense of where they are in their training for February.

aquacard

12-29-10, 07:10 AM

SC vs UA JAN 7 AT UA.

For some reason these teams did not swim head to head last year. Don't know what happened but it's nice to see their on each others schedule again. With the relationship between de Bear & Gear I would expect that to continue. That said, as much as I hate to admit it, UA could take all the firsts this year. Regardless, I would expect each team to produce some season best times. Should be a fast meet.

rjones

12-29-10, 09:27 PM

For some reason these teams did not swim head to head last year.

Word was that SC didn't want to schedule UA last year.

theoldfish

12-30-10, 07:04 AM

Word was that SC didn't want to schedule UA last year.

If I recall, there was some mention about this last year. There was supposed to be a tri meet with Centerville, St. Charles, and UA with Watterson girls in the mix. UA did not want a tri meet because their depth would not have helped them and the meet was in Centerville. UA backed out. The meet with Centerville, St. Charles with Watterson went on as planned.

swimfan

01-05-11, 08:38 AM

If I recall, there was some mention about this last year. There was supposed to be a tri meet with Centerville, St. Charles, and UA with Watterson girls in the mix. UA did not want a tri meet because their depth would not have helped them and the meet was in Centerville. UA backed out. The meet with Centerville, St. Charles with Watterson went on as planned.

UA swam Centerville last year. UA won 167 to 119.

200 medley relay: Upper Arlington (Kelch, Rabe, Lowrey, Spangler) 1:39.17. 200 free: Perkins (C) 1:46.15. 200 IM: Brooks (C) 2:01.03. 50 free: Spangler (U) 21.93. 100 butterfly: Lowrey (U) 53.75. 100 free: Spangler (U) 47.98. 500 free: Perkins (C) 4:43.24. 200 free relay: Centerville (Clark, McDaniel, Gregory, Perkins) 1:30.31. 100 back: Neri (U) 55.25. 100 breast: Rabe (U) 1:01.47. 400 free relay: Upper Arlington (Spangler, Cutler, Kelch, Lowrey) 3:15.71.

rjones

01-05-11, 12:27 PM

UA did not want a tri meet because their depth would not have helped them and the meet was in Centerville. UA backed out.

UA swam Centerville last year. UA won 167 to 119.

UA always has and always will swim anyone. UA did not back out!

aquacard

01-13-11, 12:52 PM

preeder61

01-13-11, 02:17 PM

Here's a nice profile of Olentangy Liberty's Dmitry Dolgov who is one of the Central District elite swimmers.

http://www.thisweeknews.com/live/content/olentangy/stories/2011/01/12/sports/dolgov-hopes-to-live-up-to-legacy.html

Very nice article about a really fine young man. He always has a smile on his face and a positive attitude towards other swimmers.

swimfan

01-13-11, 02:31 PM

Here's a nice profile of Olentangy Liberty's Dmitry Dolgov who is one of the Central District elite swimmers.

http://www.thisweeknews.com/live/content/olentangy/stories/2011/01/12/sports/dolgov-hopes-to-live-up-to-legacy.html

Wow, no weight training and he already swims that fast. Wait until he starts adding muscle and his body fully arrives, he will drop tons of time. Remember Adam Ritter from St. Charles a few years back. He was a similar build to Dmitry in high school. Don't know whether he lifted or not in high school. But he did very well in college and then has continued to place highly in the national meets. Don't know about the Olympics, but it will be interesting to see where Dmitry is timewise in 5 or 6 years.

aquacard

01-14-11, 09:46 AM

For those who like numbers here are the No. 1 & 10 times in each event for this year and at this point of the season last year. Overall the times at the top and bottom of nearly all the events are slower this year.

Medley Relay:
1 Upper Arlington 2011 1:38.77 1 Columbus St. Charles 2010 1:37.89
10 Gahanna Lincoln 2011 1:47.13 10 Westerville North 2010 1:45.98
200 Free:
1 Joey Long UA 2011 1:45.27 1 Nick Schuttinger Westerville Central 2010 1:44.11
10 Alex Alfonso NA 2011 1:50.51 10 Orion Swanson SC 2010 1:49.59
200 IM:
1 Chris Depietro Lancaster 2011 1:56.60 1 Sandy Whitaker SC 2010 1:57.04
10 Sam Reeder Thomas Worthington 2011 2:04.48 10 Adam Rabe UA 2010 2:01.27
50 Free:
1 Sam Reeder Thomas Worthington 2011 :21.93 1 Ian Richardson Mount Vernon 2010 :21.58
10 Dmitri Dolgov Olentangy Liberty 2011 :22.74 10 Nick Schuttinger Westerville Central 2010 :22.31
Diving:
1 Hunter Atha Worthington Kilbourne 2011 263.25 1 Jacob Kasper Dublin Jerome 2010 230.30
10 Irwin Columbus Whetstone 2011 176.45 10 Austin O’Connor Westerville North 2010 147.30
100 Fly:
1 Tanner Barton Dublin Jerome 2011 :53.74 1 Sandy Whitaker SC 2010:51.36
10 Jared Higdon Westerville South 2011 :55.24 10 Brian Willi SC 2010 :55.43
100 Free:
1 Alex Alfonso New Albany 2011 :47.70 1 Nick Schuttinger Westerville Central 2010 :47.25
10 Ryan Cutler UA 2011 :49.73 10 Jake Miller Hilliard Davidson 2010 :49.36
500 Free:
1 Joey Long UA 2011 4:44.63 1 Zach Kelch UA 2010 4:40.89
10 Nick McKinley SC 2011 5:07.16 10 Keeler Callahan Worthington Kilbourne 2010 5:05.69
200 Relay:
1 Upper Arlington 2011 1:28.52 1 New Albany 2010 1:28.87
10 Westerville Central 2011 1:35.36 10 Worthington Kilbourne 2010 1:34.18
100 Back:
1 Sean Neri UA 2011 :53.99 1 Jacob Schuster Dublin Scioto 2010 :52.35
10 Brian Willi SC 2011 :56.02 10 Sean Neri UA 2010 :56.50
100 Breast:
1 Vince Gill Hilliard Davidson 2011 1:01.44 1 Dmitri Dolgov Olentangy Liberty 2010 1:00.35
10 Matt Reed Thomas Worthington 2011 1:04.90 10 Max Herath SC 2010 1:03.72
400 Relay:
1 Upper Arlington 2011 3:15.85 1 Columbus St. Charles 2010 3:13.87
10 Westerville North 2011 3:36.24 10 Worthington Kilbourne 2010 3:31.05

This suggests that the district meet will be slower than last year. Also, while UA dominates the number of top 10 times that its swimmers have; there is a noticable decline in the number of top times held by SC swimmers. That seems to fit with the conventional wisdom that UA will take back the district title.

preeder61

01-14-11, 10:41 AM

Very interesting comparison. Being a number lover, I am curious about the timing of last's year's Ned Reeb. Seeing that most of the current 1-10 times were achieved at this season's Ned Reeb in December, I wonder if some of last year's 1-10 were achieved at last year's Ned Reeb which was in January when most had more training under their belts.

Curious comparison. Will like to see how the Central District times compare from 2010-2011

aquacard

01-18-11, 03:15 PM

Here's a comparison of week 3 from 2010 & 2011. The trend of slower times continues.

Boys 200 Medley Relay
1 Columbus St. Charles 2010 1:37.89 1 Upper Arlington 2011 1:38.77
10 Westerville North 2010 1:45.96 10 Gahanna Lincoln 2011 1:47.13
Boys 200 Freestyle
1 Jacob Schuster Dublin Scioto 2010 1:42.92 1 Joey Long Upper Arlington 2011 1:45.27
10 Joey Long Upper Arlington 2010 1:48.72 10 Keeler Callahan Worthington Kilbourne 2011 1:49.93
Boys 200 Individual Medley
1 Sandy Whitaker Columbus St. Charles 2010 1:57.04 1 Chris Depietro Lancaster 2011 1:56.60
10 Adam Rabe Upper Arlington 2010 2:01.27 10 Joey Long Upper Arlington 2011 2:03.72
Boys 50 Freestyle
1 Ian Richardson Mount Vernon 2010 :21.58 1 Sam Reeder Thomas Worthington 2011 :21.87
10 Jake Miller Hilliard Davidson 2010 :22.30 10 Dmitri Dolgov Olentangy Liberty 2011 :22.74
Boys 1 Meter Diving (6 Dives)
1 Zach Shoemaker Delaware Hayes 2010 304.80 1 Hunter Atha Worthington Kilbourne 2011 263.25
10 Kevin Duhl Westerville North 2010 172.83 10 Irwin Columbus Whetstone 2011 176.45
Boys 100 Butterfly
1 Sandy Whitaker Columbus St. Charles 2010 :51.36 1 Tanner Barton Dublin Jerome 2011 :53.74
10 Corey Taylor Columbus St. Charles 2010 :55.19 10 Srikanth Gowda Dublin Coffman 2011 :54.80
Boys 100 Freestyle
1 Jacob Schuster Dublin Scioto 2010 :46.87 1 Alex Alfonso New Albany 2011 :47.70
10 Drew Thompson Westerville Central 2010 :49.18 10 Adam Rabe Upper Arlington 2011 :49.63
Boys 500 Freestyle
1 Zach Kelch Upper Arlington 2010 4:40.89 1 Chris Depietro Lancaster 2011 4:43.17
10 David Huddle New Albany 2010 5:01.35 10 Keeler Callahan Worthington Kilbourne 2011 5:04.15
Boys 200 Freestyle Relay
1 New Albany 2010 1:28.87 1 Upper Arlington 2011 1:28.52
10 Olentangy Liberty 2010 1:33.74 10 Westerville Central 2011 1:35.36
Boys 100 Backstroke
1 Jacob Schuster Dublin Scioto 2010 :52.35 1 Dmitri Dolgov Olentangy Liberty 2011 :53.31
10 Matt Gleason New Albany 2010 :55.59 10 Brian Willi Columbus St. Charles 2011 :56.02
Boys 100 Breaststroke
1 Dmitri Dolgov Olentangy Liberty 2010 1:00.35 1 Johnson Cochran Mount Vernon 2011 1:01.19
10 Max Herath Columbus St. Charles 2010 1:03.72 10 Frederick Jenny New Albany 2011 1:04.40
Boys 400 Freestyle Relay
1 Columbus St. Charles 2010 3:13.87 1 Upper Arlington 2011 3:15.85
10 Worthington Kilbourne 2010 3:31.05 10 Dublin Scioto 2011 3:34.96

rjones

01-21-11, 08:06 AM

Check out UA’s dominance in the latest report of top times for the Central District. They lead all 3 relays…by a full second in the 200 Free Relay, 2 seconds in the medley & a whopping 5+ seconds in the 400 Free (truth be told they probably have the next several fastest times in each relay). The Bears are just as dominant in the individual events, with 5 of the top 10 times in the 500; 4 in the 200, 100 & IM; 3 in the 100 Back; with a fall off of only 2 in the Fly, 50 & Breast. It would take an all star team to beat them, and that would be close.

aquacard

01-21-11, 09:22 AM

While it is correct that UA is dominating the D1 top times in the Central District, this looks like a down year overall for that district. Check out the top 20 times in the state and UA & the D1 Central District seem to be MIA. In relays the Central District has only 2 of the top 20 times in the medley & 400 free (1 is from a D2 school in the 400) & 4 of 20 in the 200 relay (again 1 from a D2 school). The dominating bears rank no. 8 in the 200 & no. 9 in the medley & 400. In individual times the Central District has none in the breast, only 1 (a D2 swimmer) in the IM, 2 in fly (both D2 swimmers) & 200, 3 in the back & the 500, 5 in the 50 (top 2 by D2 swimmers) & 100 (1 by D2 swimmer). The only top 10 times are from the D2 guys—in the 50 & fly. Individually UA only has times in the 200(15th), 500(12th & 16th) & back(14th). At this point it doesn't appear that a Central District swimmer will win any event, and very few will make it to the championship heat. Of course things may change at the end of the season. But for now, you’re right mr. jones, UA is dominant in a very slow district. And perhaps it would take a Central District all star team to beat them…or just a team from outside Central Ohio.

WATERDAD

01-21-11, 11:02 AM

Aquacard is correct while I have no doubt that UA is dominate in the top10 of central (go to swimmeet.com) Six of those swimmers are listed in multiple events: Neri (5), Long, Reardon and Ad Rabe (4), Cutler and An Rabe (3). If I checked properly some of them are even listed in all three relays based on times and results. Also no diver for the bonus points. Actually looks tighter than you think Mr. Jones. Hold on to your bootstraps for the meet at The Ohio State University I predict closer than you imagin strategy is going to play a huge part in this one. I also predict a big puff of hot air at Canton. With all this talent I guess we will all see what kind coaches Mr. Gear and Mr. deBear really are and what the future holds for the Cardinals and Bears.
I think I am catching on to this guys, let me know if I step over any lines.

preeder61

01-21-11, 07:19 PM

I think I am catching on to this guys, let me know if I step over any lines.

You are catching on quickly, but you miss the finer points of mr. Jones' position. Regardless of whatever the facts say, the Bears will prevail and dominate all. I predict that Mr. Jones will predict multiple UA state wins, their 400 FR may go under 3:00 and embarrass all in their wake.

Seriously, the District is down, but if you look at the Ohio rankings, there are several swimmers who are ranked high in multiple events, so this is just a placeholder for strategies of event selection. And, of course Districts at OSU are always fast and we will see lots of place shuffling. I am very excited for this meet and hope to be announcing!

GoinDistance

01-23-11, 09:52 AM

Looks like Centerville handled UA pretty easily: C-ville wins 6 individual events and 2 of the relays. Central District is definately down this year.

preeder61

01-25-11, 03:38 PM

Here we are approaching three weeks before the Districts and based on the rankings the Central District only has one swimmer who is ranked 1st in two individual events, Lancaster's Chris Depietro. Some interesting rankings:

Depietro, highest rankings with 1,1,3,3
Neri, most versatile, 2,2,3,5,10
Alfonso, 1,2,4,5,9
Dolgov, 1,5,6,10,10
Reeder, 1,2,7
Long, 1,2,8
Adam Rabe, 3 3,5,9,
Reardon, 2,6,7,10

The top six on this list are potential double winners.

rjones

01-26-11, 07:53 AM

Hey preeder, notice which team's swimmers dominate your list!

BigSwimFan

01-26-11, 09:03 AM

Hey preeder, notice which team's swimmers dominate your list!

I don't think anybody is questioning whether UA is going to win the Central District. Overall everybody is pointing out that they are in trouble at the State Meet which I believe you have guarenteed a 3rd place or better.

Chlorine

01-26-11, 09:32 AM

I don't think anybody is questioning whether UA is going to win the Central District. Overall everybody is pointing out that they are in trouble at the State Meet which I believe you have guarenteed a 3rd place or better.

I think the individual swims will be more interesting than the final team score. There is the possibility of several different swims than last year. What will Dmitri Dolgov and Chris DePietro choose to swim based on state rankings? What will UA have Sean Neri, Joey Long and Ryan Cutler swim? St Charles could easily move Brian Willi and Orion Swanson to new events as well. Lots of choices for the coaches, which will make for an interesting meet

preeder61

01-26-11, 11:24 AM

What will Dmitri Dolgov and Chris DePietro choose to swim based on state rankings? What will UA have Sean Neri, Joey Long and Ryan Cutler swim? St Charles could easily move Brian Willi and Orion Swanson to new events as well. Lots of choices for the coaches, which will make for an interesting meet

Absolutely the most interesting aspect of the meet. Will Depietro return in the IM, when Dolgov is planning on going 1:53 (as quoted in an news article) if Depietro can win the 200 or the 500. Just predicting times, Long should be at 1:40 at Districts, so does Depietro stick the the 500 to be more competitive? Neri has options as well, but the 200 and back seem more likely. Cutler has been 53 in fly, but I see him sticking to the 200/500. Not sure where Swanson goes, saw a fast IM out of him in Canton last week. Willi looks to try the 50 and the fly, but back to back events are tough. Seems like Adam Rabe may take a shot at the 50 because you always have seniors who want that event. But Rabe has been 1:56 in the IM and under 1:00 in breaststroke (and his brother will be in the 50). But, does he want to get in with both of Dolgov's events?

crownfish3

01-26-11, 01:18 PM

I think Chris Depietro will swim the 500...did set a meet record in Canton.

preeder61

02-22-11, 08:11 AM

We have at least 7 swimmers who got the flu on Saturday. Heard reports from Dublin and Westerville of the same. Anyone heard anything else. Hope the kids are back up to speed by Friday.

Chlorine

02-22-11, 10:00 AM

Yes a very virulent stomach flu is making the rounds. Have heard reports from Westerville and others. WASH YOUR HANDS. The only good news is that I hear it is fast and furious but not long lasting

RussRosler

02-22-11, 02:03 PM

I have heard of many athletes suffering through this. Unfortunate.

theoldfish

02-22-11, 03:04 PM

Is this the same kind of flu that hit the week of men's NCAA last year at OSU?

preeder61

02-22-11, 05:00 PM

Is this the same kind of flu that hit the week of men's NCAA last year at OSU?

I thought that the NCAA stomach issue was traced back to all those teams on the same flight in to Columbus?

Saw a report on the news tonight that the health department is looking into it, but if you have a few sick kids, then pack them into a warm pool all day, it is bound to spread. It does seem to come and go very quickly. My kids were sick Monday morning and feel much better today.