St. Edward 2009-10

[EagleFan]

St. Edward Hockey Schedule

Fri 11/27 7:00 vs. Sylvania Northview @ Cold Turkey Tournament @ Tam O Shanter (Sylvania) W 3-0
Sat 11/28 9:30 AM vs. DeMatha Catholic @ Cold Turkey Tournament @ Tam O Shanter W 9-0
Sat 11/28 7:00 PM vs. Toledo St. Francis DeSales @ Cold Turkey Tournament @ Tam O Shanter L 3-1
Sun 11/29 vs. Toledo St. Francis DeSales @ Cold Turkey Tournament @ Tam O Shanter L 5-0
Fri 12/04 6:00 Lake Catholic @ Winterhurst W 7-5
Fri 12/11 9:00 vs. Strongsville @ Padua Franciscan Tournament @ IceLand W 3-1
Sat 12/12 1:40 vs. Findlay @ Padua Franciscan Tournament @ IceLand W 5-3
Sat 12/12 9:15 vs. Toledo St. John's @ Padua Franciscan Tournament @ IceLand L 3-2
Sun 12/13 11:10 vs. Sylvania Northview @ Padua Franciscan Tournament @ IceLand T 3-3
Sat 12/19 3:00 @ University School @ The Pond L 3-1
Sat 12/26 4:30 vs. St. Ignatius @ Quicken Loans Arena L 4-0
Sun 12/27 Eagle Classic vs. St. Edward "Green" L 5-1
Sun 12/28 Eagle Classic vs. Meadville (PA) W 6-3
Sun 12/28 Eagle Classic vs. Dublin Coffman W 5-3
Sun 12/29 Eagle Classic vs. Mt. Lebanon (PA) W 5-0
Sun 01/03 11:25 vs. Upper Arlington @ Winterhurst W 5-0
Wed 01/06 7:00 @ Lake Catholic L 1-0
Fri 01/08 5:45 Walsh Jesuit @ Winterhurst L 3-2
Fri 01/15 @ MLK Tournament @ Meadville (PA) vs. Fort LeBoeuf (PA) W 6-4
Sat 01/16 @ MLK Tournament @ Meadville (PA) vs. LaSalle (PA) L 4-2
Sat 01/16 @ MLK Tournament @ Meadville (PA) vs. Sylvania Northview W 5-1
Sun 01/17 @ MLK Tournament @ Meadville (PA) vs. Mt. Lebanon (PA) W 3-0
Sun 01/17 @ MLK Tournament @ Meadville (PA) vs. St. Ignatius L 4-2
Fri 01/22 7:00 @ Padua Franciscan @ IceLand T 1-1 OT
Sat 01/30 6:00 Padua Franciscan @ Winterhurst W 3-1
Sun 01/31 3:30 @ St. Ignatius (@ Brooklyn) L 3-1
Thu 02/04 7:00 @ Walsh Jesuit (@ Kent State) L 5-3
Fri 02/05 6:00 University School @ Winterhurst L 2-1
Fri 02/12 5:40 Gilmour Invitational vs. Gilmour W 3-2
Sat 02/13 12:40 Gilmour Invitational vs. Mt. Carmel (IL) L 2-1 (OT)
Sat 02/13 6:00 Gilmour Invitational vs. Bethel Park (PA) W 3-0
Sun 02/14 11:20 Gilmour Invitational vs. Lake Catholic L 5-2
Sat 02/20 3:00 District Tournament vs. Olmsted Falls @ Brooklyn W 8-0
Thu 02/25 6:00 District Quarter-Finals vs. Rocky River @ Brooklyn W 6-3
Wed 03/03 7:00 District Semi-Finals vs. Padua @ Brooklyn L 5-1

[ams eds fan]

How do we look? Do we return much?

[eaglepride]

After another disapointing football season, let's hope for another state championship in hockey.

[EagleFan]

and basketball and wrestling.

[EagleFan]

and swimming ;)

[EagleSE]

and swimming ;)
They have your face in the webster dictionary next to Optimist.

However the swim team is much improved from 10 years ago, they do a nice job and we should be proud of their accomplishments.

I think hockey will be pretty good and we will once again contend for the state title. Certainly hope we can keep all the Eagles playing for St. Eds and not one of those junior teams.

[Bennies'01]

Eds will compete for a state title this year because in reality in any given year there are only 7-10 legit contenders in hockey. I think everyone here can name them, though the contender(s) from NWO tends to rotate on a yearly bass a bit from about three or four usual suspects.

Looking at the schedule, it looks a bit incomplete. I suspect there will be a tournament around Thanksgiving. Turkey Bowl Red, perhaps?

[EagleFan]

You are probably correct about the Turkey Bowl Red at Iceland, but it was not on their schedule so I did not list it. If I counted the games the right way (tourneys usually count as 1 or 2 games, despite playing 4 or so), I think they still have room for the Turkey Bowl, plus it does not make sense to start the season a full week late.

[EagleSE]

Any word on the Eagles this past weekend?

[EagleFan]

Did they scrimmage this weekend?

I see they are playing in Sylvania's Cold Turkey tournament, not the Turkey Bowl as discusssed above. I have updated the schedule at top of this thread.

[EagleSE]

EF, it was the JV's that traveled to Meadville last weekend to scrimmage. Whidden said they did pretty well.

[EagleFan]

Varsity had a scrimmage vs. Farmington (MI?) on Sunday. Not sure how they did.

[EagleFan]

Season opens tonight in Sylvania's Tam O' Shanter vs. Sylvania Northview in the Cold Turkey Shootout.

[EagleFan95]

http://shutout.com/standings.asp

[EagleSE]

Eagles went 2-2 over the weekend with both losses coming to St. Francis.

[jlach22]

The Eagles played well against SFS Saturday. Whidden pulled his starting goalie midway through the game, just to split playing time. Score was 1 - 1 at the time. They lost 3 - 1, but the last goal was an empty net goal. Ref's called it tight. Probably due to the bad blood from States 2 years ago. Lot of penalties. The Championship game was Sunday morning at 8:30. I think the Eagles just mailed that one in to get out of town. SFS looks good.

[EagleSE]

Eds knocks off Lake Catholic 7-5. Nice win for the Eagles against one of the better teams in Cleveland this year.

[EagleFan]

I think St. Edward finished 3rd in the Padua tourney. Updated the Finday and Saturday scores in 1st post of this thread.

So far, St. Edward is having trouble with the Toledo private schools...

[EagleSE]

Yes, lost to Toledo St. John's this past weekend. That's one to St. John's and two to St. Francis....ouch.

[EagleSE]

Eagles lose to University School 3-1

[iggybaseball]

The game at the Q vs. St. Ignatius will be broadcast live by the St. Ignatius Broadcasting Club.

Go to www.sibn.weebly.com for a link to the action.

Hope everyone had a merry christmas!

[EagleFan]

Did the Varsity "Gold" really lose to the "Green" team?

[WarriorDee]

Did the Varsity "Gold" really lose to the "Green" team?

Yes.

[ams eds fan]

I'm going to go ahead and say that's not exactly a confidence booster.

[WarriorDee]

I'm going to go ahead and say that's not exactly a confidence booster.


Why?

[TimtheEnchanter]

Interested to know the score & get a short recap of the St Ed vs Coffman game. The Coffman web site, which is usually good & up to date, has been silent?

[WarriorDee]

Interested to know the score & get a short recap of the St Ed vs Coffman game. The Coffman web site, which is usually good & up to date, has been silent?


I was working the scoreboard on Rink 2 , across from the St. Edward vs. Dublin Coffman game on rink 1. From what I remember the final was 5-3 in favor of the St. Edward Gold team. I couldn't really watch much due to my clock duties on rink 2.

[ams eds fan]

Why?

Well, for fans like you and I it is nice to see that the future is bright, but for the varsity players getting beat by the JV team can't be good for their egos.

[WarriorDee]

Well, for fans like you and I it is nice to see that the future is bright, but for the varsity players getting beat by the JV team can't be good for their egos.


I can see your confusion, the 2 teams broke down close to this.

Gold Team: comprised of 1/2 Varsity, 1/2 JV Team

Green Team: comprised of 1/2 Varsity, 1/2 JV Team

St. Edward was short 1 team for the tournament (due to a last minute cancellation, that was no ones fault), so it was decided to run two split teams, so no brackets needed to be folded.

[sehs]

How did the Eagles due at the Gilmour tournament?

[WarriorDee]

How did the Eagles due at the Gilmour tournament?

The Eagles were not in the Gilmour Tournament this past weekend. They did play Upper Arlington on Sunday though, result St. Edward 5 - Upper Arlington 0

[EagleFan]

St. Eds lost Wednesday to Lake Catholic 1-0, a team they beat 7-5 last month.

[EagleFan]

In perhaps the first ever matchup between the two teams, St. Edward continues to struggle with a 3-2 loss to Walsh Jesuit at Winterhurst on Friday. The Eagles have a month to get things together for the Baron Cup.

[sehs]

Scores posted on Cleveland.com show that the Eagles are getting a much needed shot in the arm this weekend by beating Northview and Mt. Lebanon, they may play Ignatius this afternoon in the championship at Meadville.

[WarriorDee]

Scores posted on Cleveland.com show that the Eagles are getting a much needed shot in the arm this weekend by beating Northview and Mt. Lebanon, they may play Ignatius this afternoon in the championship at Meadville.

Results - St. Ignatius 4 - St. Edward 2

The Eagles are starting to look better.

[irisheagle]

If St. Eds remains in last place in the Red North division will they still be invited to play in the Baron Cup?

Thanks

[RonSigPi]

If St. Eds remains in last place in the Red North division will they still be invited to play in the Baron Cup?

Thanks

I dont believe so. Historically, the top 4 in the red north go against the top 2 in the red east and top 2 in the red west.

What is more alarming is that in years past, the last place team in the Red North is relegated to the Red East/West. Would be a huge embarrassment and blow to the Eagles to be out of the red north next season.

[EagleFan]

St. Edward will not drop out of Red North. St. Ignatius finished last in 2005-2006 (and 2000-2001 and 1997-1998) and did not drop. University School finished last in 2004-2005. It may be an option given to the team or voted on. I think St. Edward, St. Ignatius, University School, and Padua would have to have several bad years in a row before they consider dropping.

It will take a lot of wins (maybe need to win out?), starting with two wins vs Padua in the coming weeks, to get in the Baron Cup.

[sehs]

If there is one thing cleveland hockey has showed us over the years its that the Baron Cup doesn't matter. How many teams won the Baron Cup and then lost in the state playoffs? I would love to see Ed's in the Cup and lose every year because they play quality competition as a tune up for the state tourney. Hopefully this weekend is the start of a team that will peak at the right time in February.

[RonSigPi]

St. Edward will not drop out of Red North. St. Ignatius finished last in 2005-2006 (and 2000-2001 and 1997-1998) and did not drop. University School finished last in 2004-2005. It may be an option given to the team or voted on. I think St. Edward, St. Ignatius, University School, and Padua would have to have several bad years in a row before they consider dropping.

It will take a lot of wins (maybe need to win out?), starting with two wins vs Padua in the coming weeks, to get in the Baron Cup.

The relegation is a relatively new feature for the Red North. I believe it went into effect for after the 2005-2006 season. And yes, Ignatius did drop to the Red East for 2006-2007. The team with the best record in the Red East/West has the option to play in the Red North. It is the option of the team with the promotion right to determine if a team goes up or down.

*In 2005-2006 St. Ignatius finished last and for 2006-2007, they had to play in the Red East while Trinity was promoted.

*In 2006-2007 Shaker finished last and in 2007-2008 they had to play in the Red East while St. Ignatius was promoted back.

*In 2007-2008 Trinity finished last. However, it is my understanding that Strongsville chose not to be promoted, so Trinity stayed.

*In 2008-2009 Trinity finished last and Walsh was promoted.

While the Red North is the sexist division, this promotion/relegation occurs for the White and Blue as well. In addition, teams can move from the Blue to the White (and back) and from the White to the Red (and back).

If you dont believe me, take a look for yourself and compare divisions year-to-year:
2005-2006 - http://www.shutout.com/shutout06/standings.asp
2006-2007 - http://www.shutout.com/shutout07/standings.asp
2007-2008 - http://www.shutout.com/shutout08/standings.asp
2008-2009 - http://www.shutout.com/shutout09/standings.asp
2009-2010 - http://www.shutout.com/standings.asp

This is how almost all leagues in Europe work (best example is the English Soccer Pyramid System). From what I understand, many up-and-coming teams (specifically Walsh and Trinity) were complaining that they had no shot to improve their programs and move to the Red North. There was talk of a breakaway league where the Red North teams (the classic five of SE, SI, US, SH, Padua and possibly LC) making their own league. However, this promotion/relegation system was struck as a compromise.

I am not 100% this is still the case, but in recent years there has been movement in and out of the Red North. If things keep up, Eds may be moved out.

[EagleFan]

I did not realize Ignatius spent one year in Red East. I have a hard time believing they would not block a move by the Eagles to Red East, but I guess we shall see. Perhaps the rule is not flexible anymore. Perhaps other Red North fans can weigh in, but I think the philosophy of moving down the last place team has existed for years, but was always a loose rule...

Perhaps the team will make a run and make the question moot...They may need a win over Walsh on 2/4 to avoid the last place finish...

[sehs]

Eagles tie Padua 1-1 after OT. Should be another good game next weekend.

[sehs]

Ed's beats Padua 3-1, anyone know what time the holy war on ice is today?

[iggy69]

Ed's beats Padua 3-1, anyone know what time the holy war on ice is today?

Game today v. Saint Edward! The holy war on ice takes place this evening with Michael Watts, Paul Martin, and Mark Szwejkowski live from brooklyn beginning with the ATT Pregame show at 6:30 (all the action starts live at 6:45)

[EagleFan]

Eds took a 2-0 lead into the 3rd period and lost 3-2.

With the loss, it looks like Eds will miss the Baron Cup for the first time since 1984. (Pre-Whidden days)

Also, a year out of the Red North may be looming, though I do not know if that is a big deal. They can schedule lots ot tough non-conference games and still be prepared for February hockey...

[sehs]

Tough loss yesterday, the Eagles had it won but fell apart in that 3 minute span defensively. 2 goals in 30 seconds never helps the cause but it really hurt a team like us who struggles to score. Not sure if we will make the Baron Cup but it does look like we will be ready for the playoffs. Big win over Padua on Friday and a close loss to Ignatius shows me that this team is playing very good hockey right now when it counts.

[EagleFan]

No Baron Cup, so the team will compete in the Gilmour Invitational. I'll update the schedule in post #1 of this thread. They still have the talent to compete in the District...

[EagleSE]

We just need to play hard the full three periods.

[EagleFan]

Though this is a post-season thought, when will it be decided if St. Edward has to drop out of Red North for 2010-2011.

[EaglePride01]

What's going on this year? Attrition to junior hockey leagues? Poor coaching or effort? Or is the talent just not there this year?

[EagleFan]

Doubt it is poor coaching, we still have one of the best staffs in the state. Just needed more kids that could put the biscuit in the basket.

Goals per game:
2009-2010: 3.07
2008-2009: 5.21
2007-2008: 4.14
2006-2007: 3.36
2005-2006: 4.33
2004-2005: 3.90
2003-2004: 3.43
2002-2003: 4.75

Goal Tending was also below recent standards:
2009-2010: 2.50
2008-2009: 2.28
2007-2008: 1.95
2006-2007: 2.61
2005-2006: 1.65
2004-2005: 1.38
2003-2004: 1.30
2002-2003: 1.60

[Bennies'01]

Word on the street is that Strongsville will be moving to the Red North and St. Edward will be staying put, meaning there will be seven teams in the RN next year.

[EagleFan]

Thanks for the info Bennies. I figure teams in Red East would not want to see St. Edward on their schedule twice next year.

Kind of strange to see St. Edward and University School on bottom of standings

[EagleFan]

Finished regular season at .500, 15-15-2

Updated scores in first post of this thread.

Next up for the Eagles, District tournament on Saturday at 3PM vs. winner of Olmsted Falls-Garfield Hts (who play Tuesday night).

[irisheagle]

A new season begins today for the Eagles. Good luck in the tournament.

[EagleFan]

St. Edward (15-15-2) vs. Olmsted Falls (16-14) @ Brooklyn 3PM today.

Winner plays Thursday @ Brooklyn vs. Trinity-Rocky River winner (should be Rocky River)

[sehs]

Anyone know the score from today?

[Br. Joe]

Brackets show the Eagles beat Olmsted Falls 8-0, will face Rocky River on the 25th.

(Link (http://betabracket.digitalschoolnetwork.net/bracket.aspx?not=21&t=1129&ts=2456))

[EagleFan]

I updated the schedule on 1st post of this thread. Good luck Eagles against Rocky River. Padua will probably be the next game (District semi-finals) if they beat River.

[EaglePride01]

Eagles prevail over River 6-3.

[EagleFan]

St. Edward loses 5-1 to Padua and the season is mercifully over. I'll bet they bounce back next year. The finish up 17-16-2.

[EagleSE]

Hopefully a better season in 2010-11.

[EagleFan]

Has a Red North / Red East determination been made officially?