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Scores/opinions of the Jamboree games here:
MOEdad30
07-20-09, 01:56 PM
I will be interested to see the scores, given what is currently out there I'll probably not be too shocked. Although, Moeller just came back from Detroit and got spanked, 10-0 and 6-1, so some might be surprised.
9-5 Sycamore over Talawanda. Not pretty hockey but I guess that's preseason for you. Anyone see the result of Creek/Centerville?
sychockey33
07-23-09, 12:49 AM
Just going to throw it out there we have been playing with a upcoming 8th grade player as our goalie for our first 2 games both are jv and varsity goalies thought it would be a grand idea to take vacations at this time but are varsity goalie will be back for our final 2 games
TimtheEnchanter
07-23-09, 10:55 AM
Nothing like throwing the youngster to the wolves. Gotta admire him for filling the space, well as much as he could:)
sychockey33
07-23-09, 02:15 PM
no doubt the little man did the best he could and made some pretty great saves in net.
MOEdad30
07-24-09, 10:51 AM
any other scores yet?
Other scores...
I heard CVille lost to Creek (unconfirmed). Sycamore lost to Creek 6-4, empty netter. I heard Moeller has sucked? Anyone confirm?
hockey234
07-26-09, 07:11 PM
moeller is split up evenly into 3 teams. boro tied st x. 2-2, troy beat moeller 4-, moller(different team) beat boro 5-0
sychockey33
07-27-09, 12:50 AM
Im sorry but this whole deal with moeller heading to the columbus league is redic. They lost practicly all there tallent this last year and now there to big and bad for SWOHSHL im sorry but they wouldnt even be in the running for first in our league. I can not for the life of me figure out why they would put themselves in the situation they are in............................ I dont care how many teams they are split into they should be able to beat troy, springboro, or any other lower powered SWOHSHL team.
hockey234
07-27-09, 02:19 AM
didnt boro beat sycamore last year in their tournament when sycamore still had tappan
Just to clarify, once and for all, about the Sycamore loss to Boro last year.
The game before, Sycamore won 11-1. They scored on their only shot against the large goalie. He saw only that one shot. It was a deke, off of a breakaway. Fast-forward to the next day.
Boro scores early. Sycamore shoots all day, but due to smart defense, don't get a breakaway or deke all game. Boro goalie ends the night with 64 saves to Sycamore goalie's 13. Total score 1-0 (shots 14-64).
That's straight from the scoresheet if anyone disputes it.
TimtheEnchanter
07-29-09, 11:38 AM
so, what your saying is:
1. Sycamore came into the game highly confident on the heels of an 11-1 win.
2. The Springboro coach put a a good game plan for the Championship game.
3. The Springboro players executed the game plan to perfection (i.e. shutout)
4. Springboro scored early to get the lead.
5. The Springboro goalie had a great game (i.e. shutout)
The above is why the games are played.
1. Good teams can get over confident.
2. Opposing Coaches can recognize what happens and put in a game plan to counter
3. Less-talented teams execute game plans to beat better teams
4. Goalies have great games.
5. Upsets happen. Do some research the Undefeated Bears came into a 1985 Monday Night Football game against the Dolphins. Nobobdy gave the fins a chance. Final score Dolphins 38 Bears 24. Heck, I am told the Americans even beat the Russians for the Olympic gold medal!!!!
I wouldn't go quite so far as to call the game "perfection," as getting outshot 64-14 is not quite my image of perfection.
Otherwise, yeah, some of what you said is true. On any given day any given team can win (within reason). That is one reason why, I would argue, sports are played.
I don't think either team is going to take the other for granted; however, my guess, still, is that Sycamore wins by a fair amount. We shall see.
TimtheEnchanter
07-29-09, 01:05 PM
Sorry for the rant, your post just bothered me.
Ditto
sychockey33
07-30-09, 03:11 AM
Just throwing it out there they beat Finland for the gold.
8-2 Sycamore over Springboro. Troy over Centerville... I think it was 3-1 or 2-1 (not positive). Any other updates?
TimtheEnchanter
07-30-09, 02:03 PM
Wow Troy over Centerville! Was Breslin there? If so, good for Troy.
Beavercreek 7 St X 4
Beavercreek 6 Talawanda 4
taoistlumberjak
07-30-09, 02:14 PM
I laugh every time I see someone denigrate Springboro. I don't think you could say that they could be in better hands, and I thoroughly expect the Panthers to, in the few years, become the team that everyone hates to play. They probably will never have the talent of Talawanda, Moeller, Creek, or even Alter (if they would start selling their program to kids at non-OHSAA hockey schools). If Coach Morris can lay the groundwork for the type of program he wants to run, then they'll be tough in the SWOHSHL.
4-1 Sycamore over Centerville. Breslin wasn't there for either that game or the Troy one I don't think. All teams have a shot... they weren't all blowouts. These next few months will be where the separation (if one happens) occurs. Good luck to all teams.
TimtheEnchanter
07-31-09, 12:06 PM
Agree, that is one cool thing about SW Ohio Hockey - the games are very competitive and hotly contested.
There is much work to be done. Conditioning, Pre/post, practice, ...
until
Drop that puck, drop that puck !!!!!
and let's make Moeller pay for moving to the Capital and the Cbus teams in general for looking down their noses at the SWOHSHL!!!
hawkman
08-02-09, 11:25 PM
idk if ppl noticed, but tally was rolling lines at the scrimmages, and half of the upperclassman were at football, the onlly players they had were humfleet,sens, and engel. its gonna be a differents story when they dont have 2 lines of freshman offense, so dont look to far into the scores, talawanda had a legit chance at a 4 peat this year
sychockey33
08-03-09, 12:31 AM
You give me names of these missing players because all of the players that made a difference last year are gone except humfleef
hawkman
08-03-09, 11:16 AM
lets see, we had a freshman goalie in net, we were missing jake jackson, willy davidge,jonah hoover,zach sens, david yeakle, and ryan marks. we had 1 upperclassman on d, and one on O
sychockey33
08-03-09, 11:29 PM
Jonah isnt even playing for you
hawkman
08-04-09, 10:00 AM
yes he is, he couldnt' find a host family in columbus. so tally was missing pretty much the whole team
hockey929
08-05-09, 10:44 PM
Lets see, Last year talawanda scored 160 goals. Humfleet had 20, Davidge had 20, Jonah had at least 20, Jake Jackson had 15. Ryan Marks had 10. That is more than half the teams goal production coming back. So no talawanda did not lose their whole team and the people that left last year did not score all our goals
Sorry to burst your bubble...
Yes, Tally returns some skill; however, don't make it out to seem like most of the scoring returns.
You say 160 goals. Since D. Hoover had 47 goals and 32 assists... there goes half of the scoring.
Humfleet had 10 goals, Davidge had 19, Jonah had 14, Jake Jackson had 15, Marks had 9. So, yes, a lot of returning points-producers return. But don't act like losing Dowler and Hoover, etc. does not affect you in any way.
Yes, Tally will be competitive at the top. They lose a lot of talent. Both sides have validity... we'll see what the season brings.
hockey929
08-06-09, 11:11 AM
Im not saying it doesn't effect us, because it does, a lot but i'm just saying we aren't gonna be the awful team like everyone thinks we will be
I agree. I don't think Talawanda will be weak... but certainly weaker than last year. There will be a lot of parity within the league, as compared to the last seasons.
hawkman
08-06-09, 04:29 PM
well thats the obvious, ur deff gonna be worse when u lose 4 state all stars, ben eckhoff,braden park,allan dowler, and drew hoover. but this talawanda team has a good enough team to win the league,and should not be disregarded as sychockey33 has. sycamore hasnt had a contending program since i could remember. so they should not speak of what they do not know. since ive been invovled in high school hockey there have been two programs, thats centerville and talawanda, those are the programs that are teams to beat
Actually last year Sycamore lost in the league finals...
Braves91
08-06-09, 11:22 PM
hawkman you shouldnt be saying much about this you have been apart of talawanda only one year, and sycamore is in the mix for league as well as beavercreek. this year will tell us if experience or the determination to end talawanda's small dominance of the league, to see who will win league. I personally think its gonna come down to who wants it more. it should be a great season of hockey, it should remind me of my freshman year how close the league was where the top 4 teams where all separated by 3 points in the final standings, i think this year will have a similar out come, but thats just me we'll see once the season gets under way.
hawkman
08-07-09, 06:28 PM
ive been around tally hockey my whole life, my family started the hockey program here. my grandpa actually sponsered the first ever teams jerseys, and my dad was on the first ever league champions team. so i know more about this program then just about anyone. and that championship game wasnt as close as it dipicted, but ur right. sycamore does have a big senior class and i respect that, they could win the league. just like almost every team in it. we'll just have to see
sychockey33
08-11-09, 03:39 AM
Im sorry you know its sad when your own team member calls you out
sychockey33
08-11-09, 03:42 AM
Only 2 of those players i would consider state all stars lol Dowler and Hoover the other two were just players who benefited tally in a big way.
hawkman
08-11-09, 12:45 PM
no way, they deserved to be on that team, park had close to 30 goals last year, and eckhoff played solid d, and was a major force on offense as well, they deserved to be recognized as state all stars.
sychockey33
08-11-09, 01:13 PM
So your saying that because park had close to 30 goals that Robertson, Nazek, and Wolkoff should be State All Stars as well because all of those players had over 30 goals. I'm sorry but your just unintelligent. The points your are trying to make are just terrible. Your trying to tell me that they were 4 of the top players in the state thats just plain wrong. Hoover and Dowler i will have to agree with you there, but other then that they are most certainly not state all stars
hockey929
08-11-09, 03:38 PM
They were state allstars and deserved it. I know for a fact they made you sycamore players look like crap because talawanda beat you like 4 times, Park scored like 7 goals against you and eckhoff had a couple. So yes they deserved it over those sycamore players you mentioned
sychockey33
08-11-09, 09:59 PM
No i hate to say it but the Hoover bros were the ones who really put the puck in the net vs us. the first game we played tally score was 4-2 which tally scored an empty net goal to seal it and sycamore about put it home. second game tally beat us down not going to lie and in the league finals are goalie let in way way way to many soft goals to even give us a chance for Christ sake he let in a half ice shot and 2 or 3 just straight up fluff shots which is impossible to comeback from, but you wouldn't know what its like to not have an all star goalie in net which you will learn about this year. Dowler was a huge part in Tallys game and without him its going to show in your games. Im not against tally in any way i just think you guys are going to have a rough season like a few other teams in the league kinda how sycamore is going to blow a huge one after this year.
Now back to this stupid all star thing. You cant say how good players are just based how they play against one team its something called a season and i think that a player needs to produce all season to be considered an "All Star" Just to clear some things up from your post above According to the Game Summaries off tallys web site park had a grand total of 2 goals vs sycamore in the 3 games the two teams played each other. The Hoover bros had a combined 5 goals vs sycamore 3 from Jonah and 2 from Drew so your stats or a tad flawed my friend.
Lets through another fun fact out on the table Jonah as of today has found a host family therefor is not playing for tally thats a hard loss, but I'm going to restate what i said before I'm not against talawanda i just think its going to be a rebuilding year and there first challenging year in a long time.
hockey929
08-12-09, 08:22 PM
Yeah i wasn't sure about the stats i was just guessing. I'm not saying we are gonna be as good as last year because we won't. It will be a rebuilding year but we will still be as good as every team in the swohshl
sychockey33
08-13-09, 12:28 AM
Agreed
sychockey33
08-13-09, 12:29 AM
I laid out my predictions on the best offense thread if ya want to see it.
HockeyKid26
08-18-09, 01:32 PM
yes he is, he couldnt' find a host family in columbus. so tally was missing pretty much the whole team
is that a for sure fact for little hoover?
The unofficial report is that Hoover has now found a host family in Columbus, and will be playing up there this season.
hawkman
08-18-09, 03:33 PM
i heard johah has signed a pro contract and it will only be a matter of time before he gets called up to the big club.
hockey929
08-18-09, 08:13 PM
reports are 4 years 3.1 million
HockeyKid26
08-19-09, 10:04 AM
pretty sure they found him a spot to live at for the year
hawkman
08-19-09, 12:50 PM
yep jonahs gone, hes a good player, but a bit of a head case. but hes gonna be going to dublin jerome now.
sychockey33
02-14-10, 01:54 AM
idk if ppl noticed, but tally was rolling lines at the scrimmages, and half of the upperclassman were at football, the onlly players they had were humfleet,sens, and engel. its gonna be a differents story when they dont have 2 lines of freshman offense, so dont look to far into the scores, talawanda had a legit chance at a 4 peat this year
FAIL
sychockey33
02-14-10, 01:56 AM
well thats the obvious, ur deff gonna be worse when u lose 4 state all stars, ben eckhoff,braden park,allan dowler, and drew hoover. but this talawanda team has a good enough team to win the league,and should not be disregarded as sychockey33 has. sycamore hasnt had a contending program since i could remember. so they should not speak of what they do not know. since ive been invovled in high school hockey there have been two programs, thats centerville and talawanda, those are the programs that are teams to beat
FAIL
sychockey33
02-14-10, 01:59 AM
hawkman you shouldnt be saying much about this you have been apart of talawanda only one year, and sycamore is in the mix for league as well as beavercreek. this year will tell us if experience or the determination to end talawanda's small dominance of the league, to see who will win league. I personally think its gonna come down to who wants it more. it should be a great season of hockey, it should remind me of my freshman year how close the league was where the top 4 teams where all separated by 3 points in the final standings, i think this year will have a similar out come, but thats just me we'll see once the season gets under way.
Smart post
sychockey33
02-14-10, 02:00 AM
ive been around tally hockey my whole life, my family started the hockey program here. my grandpa actually sponsered the first ever teams jerseys, and my dad was on the first ever league champions team. so i know more about this program then just about anyone. and that championship game wasnt as close as it dipicted, but ur right. sycamore does have a big senior class and i respect that, they could win the league. just like almost every team in it. we'll just have to see
Iffy but Smart way to go
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