State Records

[xbomberd08]

While all boys state records remained intact this weekend, many women's records were broken. In DI girls, 6 of 11 events now have new recordholders. In DII girls, 4 of 11 events now have new recordholders. In the past several years on the guys side, it's a huge feat to have just 1 state record broken, but it seems like on the girls' side there is no end to new best times. What does this say about the state of men's and women's swimming in Ohio. Is women's swimming vastly improving while men's is stagnating?

[echo13]

While all boys state records remained intact this weekend, many women's records were broken. In DI girls, 6 of 11 events now have new recordholders. In DII girls, 4 of 11 events now have new recordholders. In the past several years on the guys side, it's a huge feat to have just 1 state record broken, but it seems like on the girls' side there is no end to new best times. What does this say about the state of men's and women's swimming in Ohio. Is women's swimming vastly improving while men's is stagnating?

Not that I'm disagreeing, or anything, but part of it is the suits. Part is that women have more "room" to improve. Also check out some of the Collegiate meet results. Records on both sides are getting broken. I think it's more of a testament to how good some of the male swimmers have been in the past than anything else.

[stxbomber999]

Also i think its because girls tend to hit their peak at a younger age, so some girls maybe at the best in their lives while they are still in highschool. On the onther hand guys tend hit their best later in life, so most tend to drop alot of time when they reach college. Also having guys like Joe Hudephol swim in this state doesn't help the chances of guys breaking records.

[Uncoordinated]

the records all have to do with two facts:
1.) Suits are causing previously challenging records to be broken more easily. Who knows how fast records would be now if blue seventies and lzrs were around in the nineties.

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2.) The girls are breaking more records because the men of ohio swimming past are better than the girls. Men's ohio swimming has the national record in the 4 free relay, 2 medley relay, 2 free. And Joe hudepohl had two more national records at one point. It is highly doubtable that his 1 free record would have gotten beat if kids weren't wearing fast suits. the guys records are faster because ohio guys have traditionally been better than ohio girls. That's a fact

[xbomberd08]

Also i think its because girls tend to hit their peak at a younger age, so some girls maybe at the best in their lives while they are still in highschool. On the onther hand guys tend hit their best later in life, so most tend to drop alot of time when they reach college.

If you're saying this has been consistent over time then this would have no effect on the disparity between the number of events getting broken, as this is how it always is.

[xbomberd08]

As for the argument about the suits, if the suits are allowing the girls to break state records, why aren't the boys doing the same?

Also I understand that having the likes of Joe Hudepohl on your record boards doesn't make it easy to have new records, not all records in the state are held by former olympians so you can still expect improvement in at least some events.

[stxbomber999]

If you're saying this has been consistent over time then this would have no effect on the disparity between the number of events getting broken, as this is how it always is.

What my point is that it is alot more common for girls to be an extremely high level at a younger age, while for guys it is alot rarer for guys to be at that high of a level. For girls young top class swimmers come alot more frequently, but for guys a swimmer who is already at the level of a college swimmer to come around only happens once every few years.

[echo13]

If you're saying this has been consistent over time then this would have no effect on the disparity between the number of events getting broken, as this is how it always is.

I understand what you're saying, but you can't compare the two. Every men's and women's record is a current NCAA "B" cut, and not everyone is going to be able to go those times as a junior let alone a senior in high school. As for why women are supposedly improving more so than men, I don't think that's a fair statement either, this is the first meet in a while 2 swimmers were under the 45 mark in the 100 free.