DII Swimming: Thumbs Up Or Down?

[xbomberd08]

Are you for or against the splitting of the state into division I and division II? It allows other schools to compete but there are costs and benefits with everything. What are your thoughts?

[Amazin']

I think that for the "average" swimmer that would place around 15 at regular SW Districts would love it only because he would then have a shot to swim at the meet, but personally, how could the top swimmers in the district or state even like this? It limits the competition for the STATE CHAMPIONSHIP, the best swimmer in the state at one event. It doesn't put as much onto the meaning of State Champion having more divisions.

Ohio is prided on fast swimming. and now it seems like the meet is (in a way) "slowing down"

[ElksSWIM2010]

What do we think of girls swimming then? just curious

[White_Men_Cant_Jump7]

Can someone make a list of teams that are in DI and DII? would be helpful. Thanks.

[DiveCoach]

If you are against it, then you would be against it in every other sport that has multiple divisions. Thus, if that didn't exist, it would make post-season meets, games, tournaments very long (not so much for swimming, except for the day of the meet, if they don't break up D1 and D2 into separate meets).

[DiveCoach]

If you are against D2 swimming, then you would be against multiple divisions for all other sports. Thus, do away with that, then the seasons for other sports get prolonged to terrible lengths.

Thus, I would have to be for it, even though I would rather not have it. The first year, maybe two, during changes like this, are always the toughest. After it gets set in, few will care about it and concern themselves with it. After all, there will still always be the meets like the Classics and dual meets to compete against the best. The 2 divisions only would mean more likely to be a state finalist and possibly a college scholarship.

There are good and bad things. I would accept the bad things for the good things.

[stxbomber999]

If you are against D2 swimming, then you would be against multiple divisions for all other sports. Thus, do away with that, then the seasons for other sports get prolonged to terrible lengths.

Thus, I would have to be for it, even though I would rather not have it. The first year, maybe two, during changes like this, are always the toughest. After it gets set in, few will care about it and concern themselves with it. After all, there will still always be the meets like the Classics and dual meets to compete against the best. The 2 divisions only would mean more likely to be a state finalist and possibly a college scholarship.

There are good and bad things. I would accept the bad things for the good things.

how does two divisions increase a swimmers chance of getting a college scholarship, college coaches dont care about what place you are in the state only how fast you go.

[xbomberd08]

If you are against it, then you would be against it in every other sport that has multiple divisions. Thus, if that didn't exist, it would make post-season meets, games, tournaments very long (not so much for swimming, except for the day of the meet, if they don't break up D1 and D2 into separate meets).

Not exactly, you don't qualify teams to state in swimming as you do in other sports. The closest you get to that is qualifying relays. Unlike football, basketball, etc. swimming is a more individual sport. The way an individual performs on a specific does not matter, and the way a team performs overall at the state tournament does not mean much of anything to colleges.

For example: If two QB's are exactly the same in every facet of football, except that one plays for a division I team that won state and the other plays for a bad division VI team that didn't make the playoffs...a college would be more willing to give the division I QB a scholarship over the division VI QB

But in swimming, an individual sport, a swimmer can swim a 47.10 in the 100 fly at state for St. Xavier or for Westerville Central, but either way he's gonna get a scholarship to Stanford even though St. X won state and Westerville Central had nobody besides that swimmer.