Top 5 swimmers

[White_Men_Cant_Jump7]

Just wondering if anyone has any ideas/thoughts/predictions on who will be the top 5 swimmers at state this year in each event. List in the order who you think will win to fifth place.

[thedutchman]

For D1:

200 Free: Willets, St. Francis; Krone, Moeller; Lawley, St. X; Kelch, UA; Columbus, St. X
IM: Buchanan, Beavercreek; Mai, St. Charles; Albers, Moeller; Koch, Lakota West; Shotwell, St. Charles
50 Free: Huffman, UA; Schnur, Oak Hills; Koenig, Moeller; Ware, Wadsworth; Schoenling, St. X
Fly: Schuttinger St. Charles; Willets; Downing, Gahanna; Meisner, Firestone; Schieman, Centerville
100 Free: Huffman; Krone; Ware, Schuttinger; Christy, St. Johns
500 Free: Kelch; Vigar, Anderson; Perkins, Centerville; Columbus; Kolwyck, Mason
Back: Meisner; Whitaker, St. Charles; Lancki, Valley Forge; Pierson, Bowling Green; Schuh, St. Charles
Breast: Mai; Albers; Schieman; Taylor, St. Charles; Ross, Pickerington North

[ElksSWIM2010]

Relays?

[ImPartial]

For reference, here are the returning state qualifiers and their best times from state/district:

200 free
Lawley 01:41.8
Willets 01:42.0
Krone 01:42.7
Columbus 01:42.7
Vigar 01:43.5
Kelch 01:43.5

200 im
Buchanan 01:52.9
Albers 01:54.9
Mai 01:54.36
Koch 01:55.55
Lipari 01:56.69

50 free
Huffman 20.77
Schnur 21.46
Koenig 21.52
Rhodenbaugh 21.60
Ware 21.65

100 fly
Schuttinger 50.57
Hart 50.89
Svagerko 51.02
Willets 51.12
Meisner 51.28

100 free
Huffman 45.23
Krone 46.76
Ware 47.00
Schnur 47.27
Supronas 47.57

500 free
Vigar 04:33.5
Kelch 04:34.7
Columbus 04:34.9
Perkins 04:38.0
Lawley 04:39.6

back
Meisner 52.22
Whitaker 52.91
Lancki 52.99
Schuster 53.36
McKee 53.46

breaststroke
Mai 58.49
Albers 58.75
Schieman 59.06
Schwartz 59.51
Ross 59.80


The 200 free may be the most difficult to get an at-large qualifying time, especially risky if you try to save your taper for state. Any reason why thedutchman has Schuttinger switching from the 200 free to the 100 free? As of today, it looks like it should be much easier to qualify in the 100 than 200, with only five returning state qualifiers in the 100 free. Willets, Lawley or even Vigar could swim the 100 if they wanted, especially if they expect to swim in the 200 free relay immediately following the 500. If you include Aaron Buchanon who swam 4:37 as a sophomore, that makes six guys already with a time under 4:40. Will Andrew Abeysinghe of Beavercreek swim high school this year? Two years ago as a sophomore, he swam 4:45 in the 500 and finished 7th in the backstroke at 51.76. That backstroke time is faster than all the returning swimmers from last season.

[thedutchman]

I moved Schuttinger to 100 because he led off St. Charles' 400 Free Relay with a 47 mid. St. Charles has Sam Kocher who is only .2 behind Schuttinger in the 200. Although now that they will swim the meet all in one day, the fly/100 combo isn't quite as attractive. I forgot about Abeysinghe, who will be swimming this year for Beavercreek. Probably need to move him into first spot on the back. Neither Schwartz nor Lapari matched their district times for St. X last year so I moved them down on my list. I just overlooked Hart in the fly, but Svagerko is D2.

Anyway, the list is based on last year and many if not all these guys and others will go faster. Especially the younger ones.

[ImPartial]

My bad, I thought Svagerko was from Toledo St Francis rather than Columbus StF.

Those that had peak times at district rather than state probably tapered for district: Lipari, Schwartz, Perkins, (and many others). Will they be able to qualify this year while saving their taper for state? It will probably be easier for Schuttinger, Mai and Kelch to get an automatic berth from the Central district without using their taper. In the SW, it could take sub 4:40 in the 500 for an automatic, while in the NE 5:00 would send you to state. Kelch, Schuttinger and Kocher could take the three autos in the 200 at 1:45/6. If Schuttinger moves to the 100, that almost gives Kocher a free pass. In the SW district, there are probably 14 guys that could go 1:45 with taper, so most are almost required to taper for SW district in order to qualify for state via the at-large berth.

[stxbomber999]

I moved Schuttinger to 100 because he led off St. Charles' 400 Free Relay with a 47 mid. St. Charles has Sam Kocher who is only .2 behind Schuttinger in the 200. Although now that they will swim the meet all in one day, the fly/100 combo isn't quite as attractive. I forgot about Abeysinghe, who will be swimming this year for Beavercreek. Probably need to move him into first spot on the back. Neither Schwartz nor Lapari matched their district times for St. X last year so I moved them down on my list. I just overlooked Hart in the fly, but Svagerko is D2.

Anyway, the list is based on last year and many if not all these guys and others will go faster. Especially the younger ones.

You moved lipari and schartz out for adding time at state, but you failed to recognize how of the 16 finalists at state in the 200 IM Mai had the slowest time and barely broke 2 mins. And how do you over look Hart he is the number 2 returning flyer, maybe you should just use facts and times rather than what you think is right

[ElksSWIM2010]

What about top8 Relays?

[gormanator]

what about top 5 for d-2. I think they will be quicker then some imagine. There are a great swimmers that go to d-2 schools. Think of Austin Gregory, Sam Mitchell, Max Mantkowski, and Mack Rice. Many people like them will make it more competitive.

[stxbomber999]

where are those guys going to school?

[White_Men_Cant_Jump7]

dude chill on the centerville thing you got. they are alright not the best or anything.

[gormanator]

mack rice-Indian Hill
Max Mantkowski-Maderia
Brett McKenzie might be going to a D-2 school as well.
But top 5 for each event will be for d-2 will be?

[Bigmoe22]

dude chill on the centerville thing you got. they are alright not the best or anything.

:clap:

[ElksSWIM2010]

Brett mackenzie is goin to tipp city this year

[White_Men_Cant_Jump7]

back to the topic at hand....Anyone else have thoughts or comments on who is going to win each event next year at state? Any people to look forward to?

[Amazin']

For D1:

200 Free: Willets, St. Francis; Krone, Moeller; Lawley, St. X; Kelch, UA; Columbus, St. X
IM: Buchanan, Beavercreek; Mai, St. Charles; Albers, Moeller; Koch, Lakota West; Shotwell, St. Charles
50 Free: Huffman, UA; Schnur, Oak Hills; Koenig, Moeller; Ware, Wadsworth; Schoenling, St. X
Fly: Schuttinger St. Charles; Willets; Downing, Gahanna; Meisner, Firestone; Schieman, Centerville
100 Free: Huffman; Krone; Ware, Schuttinger; Christy, St. Johns
500 Free: Kelch; Vigar, Anderson; Perkins, Centerville; Columbus; Kolwyck, Mason
Back: Meisner; Whitaker, St. Charles; Lancki, Valley Forge; Pierson, Bowling Green; Schuh, St. Charles
Breast: Mai; Albers; Schieman; Taylor, St. Charles; Ross, Pickerington North

do you really think that St. X's Schoenling will make top 5 in the 50 free? Coming into the year, he is 7th in the SW District...

I know St. X has a great sprint program. (Kyle Gallagher's improvement last season) but even he didn't get top 10 (11th) as a 6'3" kid. (brett being maybe 6'.)

[White_Men_Cant_Jump7]

My thoughts on the top 3 in each event are:
200 Free
1st- Will Lawley (St. Xavier) 2nd- Michael Krone (Moeller) 3rd- Matt Columbus(St. Xavier)
200 IM
1st- Aaron Buchanan (Beavercreek) 2nd- Joe Albers (Moeller) 3rd- Andrew Abeysinghe (Beavercreek) or Erik Mai (St. Charles). (Should be a good race for every spot)
50 Free
1st-Eric Huffman (Upper Arlington) 2nd-Brian Barrett (New Albany) 3rd- Jason Schnur (Oak Hills)
100 Fly
1st- Nick Schuttinger (St. Charles) 2nd- Michael Hart (Lakota West) 3rd- Carl Svagerko (St. Francis De Sales) Another good Race
100 Free
1st-Eric Huffman 2nd- Michael Krone 3rd- Brian Barrett
500 Free
1st-John Vigar (Anderson) 2nd- Zach Kelch (Upper Arlington) 3rd- Matt Columbus (Another Good Race)
100 Back
1st- Patrick McHugh (Springfield Catholic Central) 2nd- Jimmy Chapman (Sandusky Perkins) 3rd- Kevin Meisner (Akron Firestone) (Should be a good race)
100 Breast
1st- Joe Albers 2nd- Erik Mai 3rd- Andrew Turner (Cuyahoga Falls Walsh Jesuit) (Should be a good race)

Relays- I dont really know these so just some thoughts on these.
200 Free
1st- St.X 2nd- St. Francis 3rd- Moeller
400 Free
1st- Moeller 2nd- St. X 3rd- University?
200 Medley
1st- St. X 2nd- ? 3rd- ?

No clue on any one else. Also remember i didnt take the time to decide who is DI and DII. If you see anything that should be corrected, fix it. All the events should be good races but some more than others.

[thedutchman]

Not bad, but you have some D2 swimmers on the list (Barrett, Svagerko, Chapman , McHugh, and University) and I think its a mistake to leave out St. Charles on the relays.

[stxbomber999]

My thoughts on the top 3 in each event are:
200 Free
1st- Will Lawley (St. Xavier) 2nd- Michael Krone (Moeller) 3rd- Matt Columbus(St. Xavier)
200 IM
1st- Aaron Buchanan (Beavercreek) 2nd- Joe Albers (Moeller) 3rd- Andrew Abeysinghe (Beavercreek) or Erik Mai (St. Charles). (Should be a good race for every spot)
50 Free
1st-Eric Huffman (Upper Arlington) 2nd-Brian Barrett (New Albany) 3rd- Jason Schnur (Oak Hills)
100 Fly
1st- Nick Schuttinger (St. Charles) 2nd- Michael Hart (Lakota West) 3rd- Carl Svagerko (St. Francis De Sales) Another good Race
100 Free
1st-Eric Huffman 2nd- Michael Krone 3rd- Brian Barrett
500 Free
1st-John Vigar (Anderson) 2nd- Zach Kelch (Upper Arlington) 3rd- Matt Columbus (Another Good Race)
100 Back
1st- Patrick McHugh (Springfield Catholic Central) 2nd- Jimmy Chapman (Sandusky Perkins) 3rd- Kevin Meisner (Akron Firestone) (Should be a good race)
100 Breast
1st- Joe Albers 2nd- Erik Mai 3rd- Andrew Turner (Cuyahoga Falls Walsh Jesuit) (Should be a good race)

Relays- I dont really know these so just some thoughts on these.
200 Free
1st- St.X 2nd- St. Francis 3rd- Moeller
400 Free
1st- Moeller 2nd- St. X 3rd- University?
200 Medley
1st- St. X 2nd- ? 3rd- ?

No clue on any one else. Also remember i didnt take the time to decide who is DI and DII. If you see anything that should be corrected, fix it. All the events should be good races but some more than others.


your list seems pretty legit, but i'm just gonna go over a few points were i disagree (many will be in Xs favor b/c im kind of biased :angel: , and there are only a few people i know how they did this summer

First off in the 200 free i think columbus will beat krone based on krone's 1:57 compared to Matt's 1:55 this summer i just feel like matt is improving much faster than krone

200 IM im not sure if andrew will swim it but other than that it looks good

50 free looks good to me

100 fly i actually think hart will win this again b/c he is improving alot more this summer

100 free- I think Will Lawley will swim this for X and could be in the mix with Krone and Barret, but Huffman is the definite favorite

500 free- At sectionals Matt Columbus beat Vigar by 7 seconds in the 400 free so that should be a good race, and i have no idea what kelch did

100 back- my only change is that Andrew Abeysinghe is the clear favorite so just move everyone back one

100 breast- I dont really know whose gonna win that one

As for the relays
200 free- You forgot oakhills, which was 3rd last year and returns all of its team, they're the favorite to me

200 Medley- This is actually the one relay i think x has the least shot at winning, just b/c they lack a backstroker and flyer

400 Free- This I don't see how x loses to Moeller. Seeing what X has in store i think this is the only relay that x improves on from last year

[stxbomber999]

they'll still beat centerville, when i said i don't think they'll win i was talking about St. Charles.

[Amazin']

how do you see the St. X's 400 free relay getting better? just curious because losing Jimmy (45.26 at state) was a lot bigger than Moeller's loss (Brian Howell). Plus X also lost Ransenberg (46.56 at state).

[Xbomber098]

how do you see the St. X's 400 free relay getting better? just curious because losing Jimmy (45.26 at state) was a lot bigger than Moeller's loss (Brian Howell). Plus X also lost Ransenberg (46.56 at state).
Yes losing Jimmy and Ransenberg was big, but it isn't crucial the St. X has both of them. Lawley is capable of being a 45 high or a 46 low and Columbus is capable of being a 46 low as well. Also there are plenty of other unknowns on the St. X team who are capable of stepping up and going fast. I agree that the 400 free relay is maybe the only relay St. X can improve in from last year.

[stxbomber999]

Just remember after the 2007 season X lost 3 of the 4 swimmers from its 400 free relay, including Dave Mosko, but they were still able to drop time in 2008 in what was really a lack luster performance from really all 4 members of X team.

[thedutchman]

The fact that SC already had the meet won may have affected their performance. If the meet had been on the line I bet that relay would have been faster.

[stxbomber999]

The fact that SC already had the meet won may have affected their performance. If the meet had been on the line I bet that relay would have been faster.


Agreed and with SC's slow starts they could have been faster as well. I think that if the meet was on the line both teams could have been 3:05 or better

[SwimFan23]

here are my projections based on the summer and this season so far...

DIVING
1.) Christian Holstein (Upper Arlington)
2.) Jeff Craig (Field)
3.) Michael Kreft (Solon)
4.) Micah Rembrandt (Solon)
5.) Josh Campbell (Madison Comprehen)
6.) James Engelhart (Charagin Falls)
7.) Troy Richard (North Royalton)
8.) Stephen Sargent (Mason)

200 MEDLEY RELAY
1.) Centerville
2.) St. Xavier
3.) St. Charles
4.) Upper Arlington
5.) Moeller
6.) Akron Firestone
7.) St. John’s Jesuit
8.) Columbus Academy

200 FREESTYLE
1.) Will Lawley (St. Xavier)
2.) Matt Columbus (St. Xavier)
3.) Frankie Dyer (St. Xavier)
4.) Michael Krone (Moeller)
5.) Roman Willets (St. Francis)
6.) John Vigar (Anderson)
7.) Zach Kelch (Upper Arlington)
8.) Ty Perkins (Centerville)

200 INDIVIDUAL MEDLEY
1.) Aaron Buchanan (Beavercreek)
2.) Andrew Abeysinghe (Beavercreek)
3.) Joe Albers (Moeller)
4.) Eric Mai (St. Charles)
5.) Stephen Koch (Lakota West)
6.) Evan Schwartz (St. Xavier)
7.) Sam Lipari (St. Xavier)
8.) Blaine Kincaid (Springboro)

50 FREESTYLE
1.) Eric Huffman (Upper Arlington)
2.) Jason Schur (Oak Hills)
3.) Logan War (Wadsworth)
4.) Luke Rhodenbaugh (Oak Hills)
5.) Andy Supranos (Mason)
6.) Kevin Koenig (Moeller)
7.) Brett Schoeling (St. Xavier)
8.) David Sanders (Moeller)

100 BUTTERFLY
1.) Michael Hart (Lakota West)
2.) Daniel Glaser-Garbrick (Centerville)
3.) Travis Schieman (Centerville)
4.) Nick Schuttinger (St. Charles)
5.) Kevin Meisner (Akron Firestone)
6.) Jimmy Chapman (Perkins)
7.) Carl Svagerko (COSF)
8.) Roman Willets (St. Francis)

100 FREESTYLE
1.) Eric Huffman (Upper Arlington)
2.) Logan Ware (Wadsworth)
3.) Jason Schur (Oak Hills)
4.) Michael Krone (Mason)
5.) Andy Supranos (Mason)
6.) Nick Schuttinger (St. Charles)
7.) Michael Hart (Mason)
8.) Brett Schoeling (St. Xavier)

500 FREESTYLE
1.) Ty Perkins (Centerville)
2.) Zach Kelch (Upper Arlington)
3.) Matt Columbus (St. Xavier)
4.) John Vigar (Anderson)
5.) Will Lawley (St. Xavier)
6.) Jared Kolwyck (Mason)
7.) Aaron Buchanan (Beavercreek)
8.) Stephen Koch (Lakota West)

200 FREE RELAY
1.) Oak Hills
2.) Moeller
3.) St. John’s Jesuit
4.) Medina
5.) St. Charles
6.) St. Xavier
7.) Perkins
8.) St. Francis

100 BACKSTROKE
1.) Andrew Abeysinghe (Beavercreek)
2.) Kevin Meisner (Akron Firestone)
3.) Frankie Dyer (St. Xavier)
4.) Jimmy Chapman (Perkins)
5.) Sand Whitaker (St. Charles)
6.) Mark Gammell (Centerville)
7.) Kevin Lancki (Valley Forge)
8.) Sam Mitchell (Centerville)

100 BREASTROKE
1.) Travis Schieman (Centerville)
2.) Joe Albers (Moeller)
3.) Erik Mai (St. Charles)
4.) Billy Ross (Pickerington North)
5.) Sam Lipari (St. Xavier)
6.) Maxim Litvinov (Centerville)
7.) Evan Schwartz (St. Xavier)
8.) Andrew Bartley (Akron Firestone)

400 FREESTYLE RELAY
1.) St. Xavier
2.) Moeller
3.) Upper Arlington
4.) St. Francis
5.) St. Charles
6.) Akron Firestone
7.) Centerville
8.) St. Francis

[White_Men_Cant_Jump7]

here are my projections based on the summer and this season so far...

DIVING
1.) Christian Holstein (Upper Arlington)
2.) Jeff Craig (Field)
3.) Michael Kreft (Solon)
4.) Micah Rembrandt (Solon)
5.) Josh Campbell (Madison Comprehen)
6.) James Engelhart (Charagin Falls)
7.) Troy Richard (North Royalton)
8.) Stephen Sargent (Mason)

200 MEDLEY RELAY
1.) Centerville
2.) St. Xavier
3.) St. Charles
4.) Upper Arlington
5.) Moeller
6.) Akron Firestone
7.) St. John’s Jesuit
8.) Columbus Academy

200 FREESTYLE
1.) Will Lawley (St. Xavier)
2.) Matt Columbus (St. Xavier)
3.) Frankie Dyer (St. Xavier)
4.) Michael Krone (Moeller)
5.) Roman Willets (St. Francis)
6.) John Vigar (Anderson)
7.) Zach Kelch (Upper Arlington)
8.) Ty Perkins (Centerville)

200 INDIVIDUAL MEDLEY
1.) Aaron Buchanan (Beavercreek)
2.) Andrew Abeysinghe (Beavercreek)
3.) Joe Albers (Moeller)
4.) Eric Mai (St. Charles)
5.) Stephen Koch (Lakota West)
6.) Evan Schwartz (St. Xavier)
7.) Sam Lipari (St. Xavier)
8.) Blaine Kincaid (Springboro)

50 FREESTYLE
1.) Eric Huffman (Upper Arlington)
2.) Jason Schur (Oak Hills)
3.) Logan War (Wadsworth)
4.) Luke Rhodenbaugh (Oak Hills)
5.) Andy Supranos (Mason)
6.) Kevin Koenig (Moeller)
7.) Brett Schoeling (St. Xavier)
8.) David Sanders (Moeller)

100 BUTTERFLY
1.) Michael Hart (Lakota West)
2.) Daniel Glaser-Garbrick (Centerville)
3.) Travis Schieman (Centerville)
4.) Nick Schuttinger (St. Charles)
5.) Kevin Meisner (Akron Firestone)
6.) Jimmy Chapman (Perkins)
7.) Carl Svagerko (COSF)
8.) Roman Willets (St. Francis)

100 FREESTYLE
1.) Eric Huffman (Upper Arlington)
2.) Logan Ware (Wadsworth)
3.) Jason Schur (Oak Hills)
4.) Michael Krone (Mason)
5.) Andy Supranos (Mason)
6.) Nick Schuttinger (St. Charles)
7.) Michael Hart (Mason)
8.) Brett Schoeling (St. Xavier)

500 FREESTYLE
1.) Ty Perkins (Centerville)
2.) Zach Kelch (Upper Arlington)
3.) Matt Columbus (St. Xavier)
4.) John Vigar (Anderson)
5.) Will Lawley (St. Xavier)
6.) Jared Kolwyck (Mason)
7.) Aaron Buchanan (Beavercreek)
8.) Stephen Koch (Lakota West)

200 FREE RELAY
1.) Oak Hills
2.) Moeller
3.) St. John’s Jesuit
4.) Medina
5.) St. Charles
6.) St. Xavier
7.) Perkins
8.) St. Francis

100 BACKSTROKE
1.) Andrew Abeysinghe (Beavercreek)
2.) Kevin Meisner (Akron Firestone)
3.) Frankie Dyer (St. Xavier)
4.) Jimmy Chapman (Perkins)
5.) Sand Whitaker (St. Charles)
6.) Mark Gammell (Centerville)
7.) Kevin Lancki (Valley Forge)
8.) Sam Mitchell (Centerville)

100 BREASTROKE
1.) Travis Schieman (Centerville)
2.) Joe Albers (Moeller)
3.) Erik Mai (St. Charles)
4.) Billy Ross (Pickerington North)
5.) Sam Lipari (St. Xavier)
6.) Maxim Litvinov (Centerville)
7.) Evan Schwartz (St. Xavier)
8.) Andrew Bartley (Akron Firestone)

400 FREESTYLE RELAY
1.) St. Xavier
2.) Moeller
3.) Upper Arlington
4.) St. Francis
5.) St. Charles
6.) Akron Firestone
7.) Centerville
8.) St. Francis

Some things about your predictions seem a little far out there. For Example:

200 Free- Having the St. X kids go 1st 2nd and 3rd seems a little too much. Roman Willets getting 5th and Michael Krone getting 4th. One of them will take out one of the X guys from 1st-3rd. One of them will probably get third.

200 IM - Looks good, but maybe move Sam Lipari up a spot or two. Over all this is pretty accurate.

50 free looks good too, but maybe move Kevin Koenig up and Logan War down a lot. David Sanders might need to be moved up.

100 fly- Having Roman Willets last is a pretty big stretch. And Travis Schieman 3rd is too. Willets came into the state meet with the second fastest non senior time. Last is way to far.

100 free- Michael Krone needs to be moved up. He might even be a contender for the state tittle.

500- Aaron Buchanan is not going to get 7th.He had a bad swim last year and will definitely swim a lot faster. He will easily get top 3. Matt Columbus will probably get 1st.

100 back looks good maybe Frankie Dyer 2nd?

100 breast to me is the most messed up. Putting Travis Schieman 1st is a little ridiculous. Him beating Joe Albers or Erik Mai is very very doubtful. These two will be on a whole other level. They will probably race for 1st and beat everyone else by over a second. Then having him beat Sam Lipari and Evan Schwartz is going to be tough. I believe it will be a fight for 3rd. At best Schieman would get 3rd but doubtful. His time might be faster than Sam and Evans but they have plenty of room to improve.

[stxbomber999]

here are my projections based on the summer and this season so far...

DIVING
1.) Christian Holstein (Upper Arlington)
2.) Jeff Craig (Field)
3.) Michael Kreft (Solon)
4.) Micah Rembrandt (Solon)
5.) Josh Campbell (Madison Comprehen)
6.) James Engelhart (Charagin Falls)
7.) Troy Richard (North Royalton)
8.) Stephen Sargent (Mason)

200 MEDLEY RELAY
1.) Centerville
2.) St. Xavier
3.) St. Charles
4.) Upper Arlington
5.) Moeller
6.) Akron Firestone
7.) St. John’s Jesuit
8.) Columbus Academy

200 FREESTYLE
1.) Will Lawley (St. Xavier)
2.) Matt Columbus (St. Xavier)
3.) Frankie Dyer (St. Xavier)
4.) Michael Krone (Moeller)
5.) Roman Willets (St. Francis)
6.) John Vigar (Anderson)
7.) Zach Kelch (Upper Arlington)
8.) Ty Perkins (Centerville)

200 INDIVIDUAL MEDLEY
1.) Aaron Buchanan (Beavercreek)
2.) Andrew Abeysinghe (Beavercreek)
3.) Joe Albers (Moeller)
4.) Eric Mai (St. Charles)
5.) Stephen Koch (Lakota West)
6.) Evan Schwartz (St. Xavier)
7.) Sam Lipari (St. Xavier)
8.) Blaine Kincaid (Springboro)

50 FREESTYLE
1.) Eric Huffman (Upper Arlington)
2.) Jason Schur (Oak Hills)
3.) Logan War (Wadsworth)
4.) Luke Rhodenbaugh (Oak Hills)
5.) Andy Supranos (Mason)
6.) Kevin Koenig (Moeller)
7.) Brett Schoeling (St. Xavier)
8.) David Sanders (Moeller)

100 BUTTERFLY
1.) Michael Hart (Lakota West)
2.) Daniel Glaser-Garbrick (Centerville)
3.) Travis Schieman (Centerville)
4.) Nick Schuttinger (St. Charles)
5.) Kevin Meisner (Akron Firestone)
6.) Jimmy Chapman (Perkins)
7.) Carl Svagerko (COSF)
8.) Roman Willets (St. Francis)

100 FREESTYLE
1.) Eric Huffman (Upper Arlington)
2.) Logan Ware (Wadsworth)
3.) Jason Schur (Oak Hills)
4.) Michael Krone (Mason)
5.) Andy Supranos (Mason)
6.) Nick Schuttinger (St. Charles)
7.) Michael Hart (Mason)
8.) Brett Schoeling (St. Xavier)

500 FREESTYLE
1.) Ty Perkins (Centerville)
2.) Zach Kelch (Upper Arlington)
3.) Matt Columbus (St. Xavier)
4.) John Vigar (Anderson)
5.) Will Lawley (St. Xavier)
6.) Jared Kolwyck (Mason)
7.) Aaron Buchanan (Beavercreek)
8.) Stephen Koch (Lakota West)

200 FREE RELAY
1.) Oak Hills
2.) Moeller
3.) St. John’s Jesuit
4.) Medina
5.) St. Charles
6.) St. Xavier
7.) Perkins
8.) St. Francis

100 BACKSTROKE
1.) Andrew Abeysinghe (Beavercreek)
2.) Kevin Meisner (Akron Firestone)
3.) Frankie Dyer (St. Xavier)
4.) Jimmy Chapman (Perkins)
5.) Sand Whitaker (St. Charles)
6.) Mark Gammell (Centerville)
7.) Kevin Lancki (Valley Forge)
8.) Sam Mitchell (Centerville)

100 BREASTROKE
1.) Travis Schieman (Centerville)
2.) Joe Albers (Moeller)
3.) Erik Mai (St. Charles)
4.) Billy Ross (Pickerington North)
5.) Sam Lipari (St. Xavier)
6.) Maxim Litvinov (Centerville)
7.) Evan Schwartz (St. Xavier)
8.) Andrew Bartley (Akron Firestone)

400 FREESTYLE RELAY
1.) St. Xavier
2.) Moeller
3.) Upper Arlington
4.) St. Francis
5.) St. Charles
6.) Akron Firestone
7.) Centerville
8.) St. Francis

ill go ahead and put in my two cents on this list aswell

Diving- I dont really know much about, so ok by me

Medley Relay- No way Centerville wins this, St. C and St. X should beat them in this, if not definately St. C

200 Free- Love the St. X 1,2,3 and i think it will happen if they all swim it

200 IM- You're the second person who has put Abeysinghe in it, is he going to swim this? otherwise looks good

50 Free-Brian Barret should be on that list

100 Fly- You dont give schuttinger enough credit, it will be a duel between him and Hart for first

100 free- A couple of things here. You're missing Brian Barret, and (i know you cant really include him yet) i think Will Lawley will swim this for X. Also you have Hart and Schuttinger in this, and because of the new state format, i dont know how well they'll do. Finally, you Mike Hart and Mike Krone listed as Mason swimmers, i'm sure it was just a typo.

500 Free- First take Lawley cause ithink he wont swim it. Over the summer Matt Columbus beat Zach Kelch. Also Alex Miller beat about half that list at sectionals this summer. Why is ty perkins first? his best time was a 4:38 last year

200 free relay- you're not giving X enough credit. With Lawley, Schoenling, Columbus, and who ever their 4th is they will be much better than 6th

100 back-looks pretty good

100 breast-Why is Schieman 1st if Mai and Albers are both faster than he has ever been, why is Litinov ahead of Schwartz when litinov's best time is 1:00 and Schwartz is a 59

400 free relay- looks good

[ImPartial]

That is an odd mixture of DI and DII teams. You have Perkins, COSF listed, but you left out University. I'm going to assume you intended this to be a DI list. If that is the case, all these DII entries should be removed:

2.) Jeff Craig (Field)
5.) Josh Campbell (Madison Comprehen)
6.) James Engelhart (Charagin Falls)

8.) Columbus Academy

6.) Jimmy Chapman (Perkins)
7.) Carl Svagerko (COSF)

7.) Perkins

4.) Jimmy Chapman (Perkins)
7.) Kevin Lancki (Valley Forge)

And it appears St Francis gets an A and a B team in the 400 relay.



Medley Relay- No way Centerville wins this,

100 Fly- You dont give schuttinger enough credit, it will be a duel between him and Hart for first

500 Free- Why is ty perkins first? his best time was a 4:38 last year

100 breast-Why is Schieman 1st if Mai and Albers are both faster than he has ever been, why is Litinov ahead of Schwartz when litinov's best time is 1:00 and Schwartz is a 59



Notice any sort of pattern, giving swimmers from a particular Dayton school the edge?

In addition to Lawley in the 100 free, there is a good chance Willets could swim the 100 free rather than the fly. His summer time in the 100 free LCM at junior nationals was 53.07. That is just a heartbeat from Huffman and a full second or more faster than everyone else in the 100 free LCM this summer.

[thedutchman]

Here are the top 24 returning times in D1 for the 200, IM and 50 from last season.
200 Yard Free
1. Willets, Roman SR St. Francis 1:40.20 NW
2. Krone, Michael F SR Moeller 1:41.95 SW
3. Lawley, Will S SR St. Xavier 1:42.50 SW
4. Kelch, Zach N JR Upper Arlington 1:42.59 C
5. Columbus, Matt J SR St. Xavier 1:42.92 SW
6. Vigar, John J JR Anderson 1:44.03 SW
7. Rice, Zach J SR Mason 1:44.12 SW
8. Schuttinger, Nick JR St. Charles 1:44.22 C
9. Perkins, Ty M JR Centerville 1:44.35 SW
10. Kocher, Sam J JR St. Charles 1:44.46 C
11. Katich, Joe SR St. Francis 1:44.78 NW
12. Kleinhenz, Jonathan SR Walnut Hills 1:45.10 SW
13. Kolwyck, Jared M SR Mason 1:45.23 SW
14. Haney, Jay D SR Lewis Ctr Oly 1:45.44 C
15. Grunden, Eric H SR St. Charles 1:46.31 13 C
16. Bailey, Ben M SR Lewis Ctr Oly 1:46.49 C
17. Schneider, Dan J SR LaSalle 1:46.54 SW
18. Biedenharn, Carlo JR Kings 1:47.16 SW
19. Satornino, Trevor SR St. Johns Jesuit 1:46.53 NW
20. Buerling, Ben SR Green 1:46.63 NE
21. Cohara, Alex SR St. Edward 1:46.87 NE
22. Gallagher, Jamie SO Solon 1:47.09 NE
23. Slater, Andrew SR Lancaster 1:47.45 C
24. Malone, Chris SR Firestone 1:48.46 NE

200 IM
1. Buchanan, Aaron SR Beavercreek 1:53.95 SW
2. Albers, Joe C SR Moeller 1:54.36 SW
3. Mai, Erik M SR St. Charles 1:55.42 C
4. Koch, Stephen SR Lakota West 1:55.55 SW
5. Lipari, Sam J JR St. Xavier 1:56.69 SW
6. Schwartz, Evan C SR St. Xavier 1:57.70 SW
7. Kincaid, Blaine SR Springboro 1:58.73 SW
8. Taylor, Corey G JR St. Charles 1:59.10 C
9. Shotwell, Justin D SR St. Charles 2:00.20 C
10. Norris, Aaron M JR Lewis Ctr Oly 2:00.76 C
11. Torbet, Tyler S SR Mason 2:00.96 SW
12. Conway, Michael J JR St. Xavier 2:01.00 SW
13. Miller, Alex K JR St. Xavier 2:01.62 SW
14. Nuss, Tyler SR Fairfield 2:01.73 SW
15. Williams, Brandon JR Loveland 2:01.84 SW
16. Litvinov, Maxim A JR Centerville 2:02.06 SW
17. Glaser-Garbrick, Dan R SR Centerville 2:02.08 SW
18. Gluvna, Chris SR Solon 2:02.77 NE
19. Hooley, Chase SO Wooster 2:03.57 NE
20. Barone, Phil SO St. Johns Jesuit 2:05.42 NW
21. Evola, Samuel SO St. Francis 2:05.52 NW
22. Kloos, David SO St. Ignatius 2:05.54 NE
23. Nemeth, Dan JR Mayfield 2:05.69 NE
24. Fronk, Jeffrey SR Maumee 2:06.79 NW

50 Free
1. Huffman, Eric E SR Upper Arlington 20.88 C
2. Schnur, Jason SR Oak Hills 21.46 SW
3. Koenig, Kevin W SR Moeller 21.52 SW
4. Rhodenbaugh, Luke SR Oak Hills 21.60 SW
5. Supronas, Andy SR Mason 21.68 SW
6. Ware, Logan SR Wadsworth 21.86 NE
7. Sanders, David V SR Moeller 21.89 SW
8. Schoenling, Brett E SR St. Xavier 21.95 SW
9. Christy, James SR St. Johns Jesuit 21.97 NW
10. Hill, Justin SR Berea 21.99 NE
11. Everson, Gus JR Sandusky 22.01 NW
12. Jones, Devinn SR Wayne 22.13 SW
13. Hancher, Jonathon A SR Sycamore 22.16 SW
14. McCord, Alex JR Wooster 22.22 NE
15. Fudge, Ben SR St. Johns Jesuit 22.28 NW
16. Beck, Jordan SR Fremont 22.37 NW
17. Redinger, Mack SR Dublin Jerome 22.39 C
18. Mackey, Jeff JR North Olmsted 22.56 NE
19. Schwab, Kevin P SO Moeller 22.57 SW
20. Mickelson, Colin SR Marysville 22.62 C
21. Richardson, Ian JR Mt Vernon 22.65 C
22. Bungo, Brandon SR Hudson 22.70 NE
23. Staursky, Joe SR Dublin Jerome 22.71 C
24. Clason, Evan SR Stow 22.73 NE

[SwimFan23]

200 medley- word from columbus says that they will not swim schuttinger on the 200medley and centerville times so far for this season from just exhabition meets...
Gammell-53.85
Litvinov-1:00.55 (27.49 medley split)
Schieman-52.12 (23.4 medley split)
and with ty perkins anchoring

50 free- brian barret is DII

100 fly- daniel glaser-garbrick has gone a 51.97 this season from exhabition meets

100 free-there is a 15 minute break so they may swim it

500 free- ty perkins two weeks ago....4:38! and at y nationals he has gone a 4:35

200free relay- schoeling is on the medley right? i dont know much about this relay ....

100 breast- at zones litvinov 1:08.94 LCM and last weekend 1:00.55

[stxbomber999]

200 medley- word from columbus says that they will not swim schuttinger on the 200medley and centerville times so far for this season from just exhabition meets...
Gammell-53.85
Litvinov-1:00.55 (27.49 medley split)
Schieman-52.12 (23.4 medley split)
and with ty perkins anchoring

50 free- brian barret is DII

100 fly- daniel glaser-garbrick has gone a 51.97 this season from exhabition meets

100 free-there is a 15 minute break so they may swim it

500 free- ty perkins two weeks ago....4:38! and at y nationals he has gone a 4:35

200free relay- schoeling is on the medley right? i dont know much about this relay ....

100 breast- at zones litvinov 1:08.94 LCM and last weekend 1:00.55

Medley- were did you hear that, because i think it would be stupid not to use him

50 free- thanks for clearing that up

100 fly- Hart and Schuttinger are still the two favorites to me

100 free- good point

500 free- a 4:35 still only puts him at the 4th or 5th best returning swimmer

200 free relay- he can swim 2 relays

100 breast- Albers and Mai are still the favorite

[SwimFan23]

medley-from columbus st charles swimmers...i heard about the medley relay

500free- if ty perkins is going 4:38 right now....

100fly- watch out for glaser-garbrick and schieman LCM glaser-garbrick was a 58.71

100breast- schieman went a 1:07.53 LCM in march at IUPUI sectionals beats albers and mai's best times

also university is DII

[Xbomber098]

Please, times at this time in the season mean nothing. Most of the senior class hasnt been in town enough to train to be going that fast. That is, if they have been recruited this fall. Look at times again in december/january and you'll be able to say who is good at what. It is pointless to compare swims at this point in time.

[Xbomber098]

Also, Columbus comes out of the summer season with the fastest 400 free time, and I wouldnt leave Alex Miller far out of the mix. He has been swimming like a champ since state last year, and will be the underdog this year.

[thedutchman]

200 medley- word from columbus says that they will not swim schuttinger on the 200medley

It does not appear that anything is set in stone in Columbus. The following is from St. Charles website:

"200 Medley Relay – Despite the graduation of Kyle Jennings, Alex Schaffer and Neil O’Kelly from our state runner-up relay last season, we return one of the fastest Ohio breaststrokers in Erik Mai. In addition, we have several talented Cards who have been waiting for their chance to compete on a relay. The backstroke leg will primarily be covered by Jay Schuh, Sandy Whitaker, and Orion Swanson. Mai, Eric Grunden, Justin Shotwell, Corey Taylor and David Yarnell will handle the breaststroke leg. In the ‘fly, we’ll look to Nick Schuttinger, Mai, Taylor, Matt Brown, and Chad Rankin. In the anchor role, we’ll have our choice of Whitaker, Sam Kocher, Shotwell, Ira McCrystal and Mark Stechschulte."

The site has an preview of the season. It can be found at http://www.eteamz.com/scswim/index.cfm?

[caswim]

Medley- were did you hear that, because i think it would be stupid not to use him

50 free- thanks for clearing that up

100 fly- Hart and Schuttinger are still the two favorites to me

100 free- good point

500 free- a 4:35 still only puts him at the 4th or 5th best returning swimmer

200 free relay- he can swim 2 relays

100 breast- Albers and Mai are still the favorite

Any St. X swimmer would put Schuttinger down as one of their favorites, especially when he came from behind to out touch their two top dog seniors.

What about St. Charles medley of Schuh - Mai - Whitaker - Kocher

[stxbomber999]

Any St. X swimmer would put Schuttinger down as one of their favorites, especially when he came from behind to out touch their two top dog seniors.

What about St. Charles medley of Schuh - Mai - Whitaker - Kocher

no any one who knows anything about swimming would out him down as a favorite, he got 4th last year and 1-3 graduated. Even if he got 6th behind x's two guys he would be a favorite

[ImPartial]

Relays...just too much speculation prior to the state meet. Some of the relays won't be decided until after the district meets when the coaches try to optimize points and matchups. What two relays will guys like Lawley, Schuttinger, Dyer, Huffman, Willets, Kelch, Mai, Krone, etc. swim in order to have a shot at being relay state champion or at scoring the most team points? Much of that depends on how much the rest of their teammates improve during the season.

[ImPartial]

[ sarcasm ]

Could you please give us a daily update of all times for all Centerville swimmers? We never get tired of hearing the latest news. Thanks.

[ /sarcasm ]

[msjega]

Going on recriuting trips should have no effect on how a swimmer is swimming because colleges give swimmers time to practice and the swimmers practice during the week with their team. So if seniors are going best times its legit.

[stxbomber999]

[ sarcasm ]

Could you please give us a daily update of all times for all Centerville swimmers? We never get tired of hearing the latest news. Thanks.

[ /sarcasm ]

agreed

[xbomberd08]

Gammell and Litvinov have already gone best times in their 100 back and 100 breast...

while in the 100 fly glaser-garbrick has already gone a 51 this year which is a best time and schieman a 52.12

ty perkins has already gone a 22 flat start this year

Rumor has it that the Centerville coach got arrested for distributing steroids to his swimmers, which explains all these early season best times.





Disclaimer: I'm just kidding.

[ElksSWIM2010]

funny

[thedutchman]

Hey Elks, do you know why the Centerville site is down? Or does it have a new address?

[ElksSWIM2010]

new adress....

http://www.elkswimanddive.com/

[thedutchman]

Thanks, Elks. Someone should notify swimmeet.com. They still have it linked to the old address.

[ImPartial]

That's funny. I saw some of those results and wanted to make this kind of preface before saying anything:

"Now everyone knows you don't win state with early season results, but..."

But somebody already posted. Using the previous poster's logic, Mike Hart could win the 500 free at state:

1 Hart, Mike H 17 Mason-OH 4:48.60
2 Koch, Stephen D 17 Mason-OH 4:48.62
3 Kolwyck, Jared 17 Mason-OH 4:51.16

[ElksSWIM2010]

give me one swimmer who has broken 52 this year? in ohio?
besides dan
and other people have gone way faster than that in the 500 this year

[ImPartial]

This year? : Schuttinger, Hart, Chapman, Svagerko, Murphy, Downing, Trebilcock, Kornick, Wolf, Pierson, MacKay, Willets, Lancki, ... just to name a few.

Under 52 in November, nice.
Under 50 in late February, priceless!

[ElksSWIM2010]

I ment this season.....

and by MAKOS dan will have beaten mike harts best time at the pace he is going

[Xbomber098]

Thank you!!! Times at the beginning of the season mean very little. Let me know what those times are mid season so we can all see how much you have dropped. It is nice to go fast in the beginning of the season, but it really is not a valid show of what you will go at the end of the season. People won't win state in november, they will win it in february.

[crusader007]

what about top 5 for d-2. I think they will be quicker then some imagine. There are a great swimmers that go to d-2 schools. Think of Austin Gregory, Sam Mitchell, Max Mantkowski, and Mack Rice. Many people like them will make it more competitive.


Michael Murphey from Wyoming, and Brad Hines from Taylor are going to be the top two 100 flyers, Murphey will also be up there in 100 free, and Hines will be up there in 100 back.

[crusader007]

This year? : Schuttinger, Hart, Chapman, Svagerko, Murphy, Downing, Trebilcock, Kornick, Wolf, Pierson, MacKay, Willets, Lancki, ... just to name a few.

Under 52 in November, nice.
Under 50 in late February, priceless!


No one notices Brad Hines from Taylor, but he has already been a 52 in 100 fly and a 53 in 100 back. He is looking at a D-2 Gold Medal.

[crusader007]

http://www.swimconnection.com/oh/exec/TopResults

a lot of times are updated from this past weekends meets (ex. CW Invitational, Nationals)

[crusader007]

Who do you think will be the top 5 100 butterflyers in D-2 this year?

[ImPartial]

I ment this season.....

and by MAKOS dan will have beaten mike harts best time at the pace he is going

Results from Makos:

3 Hart, Mike H 17 Mason-OH 52.35 50.97 AAAA 18
4 Schieman, Travi 16 Wtrc Sharks-OH 51.03 51.46 AAAA 17
5 Glaser-Garbrick 17 Wtrc Sharks-OH 52.17 51.91 AAAA 16

Dan went faster in an un-shaved, un-tapered, exhibition meet (Mason Invite) than he did for a rested big meet? Do you still think Perkins will win district in the 500 after watching Buchanon swim a 4:29 this weekend?

[xbomberd08]

Results from Makos:

3 Hart, Mike H 17 Mason-OH 52.35 50.97 AAAA 18
4 Schieman, Travi 16 Wtrc Sharks-OH 51.03 51.46 AAAA 17
5 Glaser-Garbrick 17 Wtrc Sharks-OH 52.17 51.91 AAAA 16

Dan went faster in an un-shaved, un-tapered, exhibition meet (Mason Invite) than he did for a rested big meet? Do you still think Perkins will win district in the 500 after watching Buchanon swim a 4:29 this weekend?

Good points here.

As has already been stated...the only thing that really matters is state. These meets can tell a some things, but obviously not everything.

[White_Men_Cant_Jump7]

Anyone know where to find Big eight results?

[ImPartial]

Big Eight:

http://www.firestoneswimming.org/results/2008_2009/Big%208.pdf

[floaties101]

Is there a reason that Nick Shuttinger has yet to record a time? Has he not crossed over becasuse he should have swam at big 8.

[xbomberd08]

It's in another thread but apparently he's ineligable due to academics but is expected to be eligable the second half of the season. He'd be a big edition, especially for relays.

[White_Men_Cant_Jump7]

Any reason why swimmeet.com does not have any times for Buchanan? And for abesiyan? Are they doing well? And any reason why Joe Albers is yet to do well in the 100 breast but everyone else is?

[Amazin']

And any reason why Joe Albers is yet to do well in the 100 breast but everyone else is?

No Clue, but possibly the same reason why The big names from Moeller have yet to do well. Along with Albers, other big names such as Krone, Sanders, Koenig and Schwab have also yet to show anything thus far in their events.

[stxbomber999]

Any reason why swimmeet.com does not have any times for Buchanan? And for abesiyan? Are they doing well? And any reason why Joe Albers is yet to do well in the 100 breast but everyone else is?

I dont think Buchanan abd Abesinghe have swam in a high school meet yet, they usually cross over at the Southwest Classic. as for Joe and the Moeller guys, I wouldnt be too worried about them, wait till after the classic and see were they are then

[floaties101]

It's in another thread but apparently he's ineligable due to academics but is expected to be eligable the second half of the season. He'd be a big edition, especially for relays.


Wow ineligable! Thanks, I thought he got hurt of something. He better get his act together if he plans on winning the 100 fly and some relays. Looks like for right now X and Sc are with out flyers.

[stxbomber999]

I think he's back now

[Fly4Fun]

Wow ineligable! Thanks, I thought he got hurt of something. He better get his act together if he plans on winning the 100 fly and some relays. Looks like for right now X and Sc are with out flyers.

Discussion of his academic situation aside, Nick Schuttinger is back with the team. He beat Eric Huffman in the 50 free style in the SC vs. UA dual-meet over the weekend.

Huffman didn't swim his best (I'm assuming from the times), but it is still an impressive swim for Schuttinger considering he went a lifetime best in the event mid-season right after tough winter training.

[White_Men_Cant_Jump7]

After seeing the times in classic meets any new thoughts on who are the best swimmers in the state?

[White_Men_Cant_Jump7]

After seeing some pretty fast times from both the classics this past weekend, any new thoughts on who the best swimmers might be this year?

[fast4you]

Hart is gonna win fly. And the guy who put X swimmers 1,2,3 in the 200 has no clue. They won't even have 3 make finals at state.

[Amazin']

Hart is gonna win fly. And the guy who put X swimmers 1,2,3 in the 200 has no clue. They won't even have 3 make finals at state.

It will have to come down to Hart v. Schuttinger. remember Schuttinger did go faster at State than hart.

Will Lawley, 3rd last season.
Matt Columbus 7th last season.
Alex Miller 1:43.5 at the first meet of the year (this was only .7 off of making finals at state, and he wasn't rested/shaved/tapored)

They have the #3,4,5 times in the state, behind 1 kid in D2, and Roman Willets... Roman (if he swims it) has to be the favorite. But to say they won't make 3 to finals if ridiculous

[stxbomber999]

Yeah you really cant base what going to happen at the end of the year off of classic, it can help make educated guesses, but not completely accurate predictions. It doesnt include other swimmers from around the state (ie Schuttinger may still beat Hart and win the fly) and with the added events, such as the 200s, some swimmers dont swim their best highschool events (ie X only had 1 of their 3 200 guys who are currently 1,2,3 in the district), also allowing people to swim on all relays doesnt necessarily give an accurate pridiction of those (Moe should be the favorite in 2 of 3, but Im not sure if they can win all 3 at districts)

Also my comment about Xs 1,2,3 in the 200 free was based off of X having Frankie Dyer who was a 1:41 last year which would have given X the 1st, 2nd, and 4th best returning times from state last year, with Krone being 3rd ahead of Columbus, but since krone went a 1:57 this summer and Columbus a 1:55, it really didnt seem like an impossibility. You see there is really no point in critisizing a prediction from over 4 months ago, thing change and there is no way ti predict the future

[Number1Spot77]

Yeah you really cant base what going to happen at the end of the year off of classic, it can help make educated guesses, but not completely accurate predictions. It doesnt include other swimmers from around the state (ie Schuttinger may still beat Hart and win the fly) and with the added events, such as the 200s, some swimmers dont swim their best highschool events (ie X only had 1 of their 3 200 guys who are currently 1,2,3 in the district), also allowing people to swim on all relays doesnt necessarily give an accurate pridiction of those (Moe should be the favorite in 2 of 3, but Im not sure if they can win all 3 at districts)



I think Moeller has very good shot at winning all three relays at classic and at state. They put up a 1:38 without fast suits at GCL and they wouldnt even have to weaken any of their other relays now because a kid went a 21.4 in free. Their only down fall would be their freshman flyer. But they have albers and koenig to make up for it. X has a good relay too. With columbus schwartz lipari and schoeling it should be a good match up. Both relays are not a stacked relay but are very fast. I wouldnt underestimate either of them, mainly moeller.

[Amazin']

I think Moeller has very good shot at winning all three relays at classic and at state. They put up a 1:38 without fast suits at GCL and they wouldnt even have to weaken any of their other relays now because a kid went a 21.4 in free. Their only down fall would be their freshman flyer. But they have albers and koenig to make up for it. X has a good relay too. With columbus schwartz lipari and schoeling it should be a good match up. Both relays are not a stacked relay but are very fast. I wouldnt underestimate either of them, mainly moeller.

Especially since Koenig is finally dropping time in his 50 back. (at classic he was 25.95 with a leg suit. and went 25.6 without one)

State champion will be a toss up. X, Centerville, Moeller, and you can't forget about St. Charles up north too.

[OhioSWIM002]

1. st charles
2. X
3.moeller
4.firestone
5. UA
6.centerville

should be close betwwen X and st charles moeller will be close behind though

[Aviator]

oakhills beat centerville at the classic. and beavercreek beat them at their conference. better move centerville medley down to at least 8. sycamore and loveland are close behind. centerville will have to fight to make it to top 8 at state.

[OhioSWIM002]

actually centerville went a 1:39.3 on the first day of there conference meet with a 26.5 from backstroke....this beats beavercreek best and best oak hills, and sycamore and loveland havent gone close to this so give them a little more respect than that, just from a bad conference final race and a classic final race which for some reason they didnt seem to gave there best season lineup...idk

[Number1Spot77]

With the psych sheets up any new thoughts on who is going to win what event? Any surprises?

[SwimFan23]

Possible Event Winners

2Medley- St. Xavier, Centerville, Moeller

200 Free-Krone, Lawley, Buchanon, Columbus, Miller, Viger

200IM- Abeysinghe or Albers

50 Free- Rhodenbaugh, Schurr, Sanders , Koenig

100 Fly- Schieman, Hart, Glaser-Garbrick

100 Free- Krone, Sanders, Lawley,

500Free- Perkins, Buchanon, Viger, Miller, Columbus

2Free Relay- Moeller, Oak Hills, St. Xavier

100 Back- Abeysinghe

100 Breast- Schieman, Albers, Lipari, Litvinov

4Free Relay- Moeller, St. Xavier

[xbomberd08]

Possible Event Winners

2Medley- St. Xavier, Centerville, Moeller

200 Free-Krone, Lawley, Buchanon, Columbus, Miller, Viger

200IM- Abeysinghe or Albers

50 Free- Rhodenbaugh, Schurr, Sanders , Koenig

100 Fly- Schieman, Hart, Glaser-Garbrick

100 Free- Krone, Sanders, Lawley,

500Free- Perkins, Buchanon, Viger, Miller, Columbus

2Free Relay- Moeller, Oak Hills, St. Xavier

100 Back- Abeysinghe

100 Breast- Schieman, Albers, Lipari, Litvinov

4Free Relay- Moeller, St. Xavier

Are you talking about in the SW District or the whole state?

[crusader007]

Are you talking about in the SW District or the whole state?

Well most likely SW District because if you notice its only SW swimmers...

No Huffman No Willets etc.

[ImPartial]

It looks like all the obvious choices for event winners are listed. McKee in the backstroke should be mentioned. All of these guys are probably tapering for state, so might not have their ultimate best time at district.

Is there anyone that is tapering for District to make sure they qualify for state in a second event? Who might have a surprise showing with a District taper? The only one I can think of is Kanzari. If he tapers for District, he could come up with a 4:3x 500. Will anyone go under 4:35 at district?

[SwimFan23]

well the meet is still fast and i am sure those swimmers will go anywhere from 50-90% taper for district...i could see all the names listed go under 4:35 in the 500

[xbomberd08]

Is there anyone that is tapering for District to make sure they qualify for state in a second event? Who might have a surprise showing with a District taper? The only one I can think of is Kanzari. If he tapers for District, he could come up with a 4:3x 500. Will anyone go under 4:35 at district?

I think you could have a lot of sub-4:35 guys. Alex Miller already went a 4:36 to win the SW Classic and Ty Perkins has gone a 4:37 in season. Also, Matt Columbus, John Vigar and Ty Perkins were all under 4:40 last year at Districts. I don't think it's a question of IF anyone will, it's a question of how many. I would guess there could be upwards of 5 guys under 4:35.

[ImPartial]

I think you could have a lot of sub-4:35 guys. Alex Miller already went a 4:36 to win the SW Classic and Ty Perkins has gone a 4:37 in season. Also, Matt Columbus, John Vigar and Ty Perkins were all under 4:40 last year at Districts. I don't think it's a question of IF anyone will, it's a question of how many. I would guess there could be upwards of 5 guys under 4:35.

Isn't it fun trying to predict tapers? Vigar and Buchanon did not make the podium in neither of their events. Both were over 4:40. Kanzari did indeed hit 4:3x. Perkins, Columbus and Miller were the only three to go under 4:35, but they were also the only ones coming in with seed times close to that.

1-2-3 in heat 4 was a nice battle to watch. 1-2-3 in heat 3 was just as interesting (Kleinhenz-Rice-McNamara), with two guys finishing under 4:40 and reaching the podium.

[xbomberd08]

Isn't it fun trying to predict tapers? Vigar and Buchanon did not make the podium in neither of their events. Both were over 4:40. Kanzari did indeed hit 4:3x. Perkins, Columbus and Miller were the only three to go under 4:35, but they were also the only ones coming in with seed times close to that.

1-2-3 in heat 4 was a nice battle to watch. 1-2-3 in heat 3 was just as interesting (Kleinhenz-Rice-McNamara), with two guys finishing under 4:40 and reaching the podium.

Buchanon's time especially surprises me, I thought he would have been right up there. And if I could have redone a prediction after the 200 free I would have said maybe 4. You never know how someone will do, but it's still fun to guess and hope you're right, haha.

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Here are the top 5 swimmers at the SW district meet by points:

40 Albers
36 Sanders
36 Miller
33 Perkins
32 Schnur (tie)

There were a couple swimmers tied at 32 points. As a tiebreaker, I looked at their relay splits. Schnur had the fastest 50 fly split at the meet (for example, compared to Columbus who also had 32 points, but was fourth in the fly split), and the second fastest 50 split in the 200 free relay. Sanders was the only swimmer to have the two fastest relay splits at the meet.