Best Club Coaches/Trainers?

[Silence DoGood]

I've heard lots of different opinions of local club coaches. Who do you think the best coaches/trainers in town are?

Some trainers command $80 to $100 per hour for individual training. Is it worth it?

[ColerainWinsAgain]

I'd say no... Honestly I grew up around soccer, never played in high school, but I don't think a trainer could teach me anything more than I already know. If we're talking conditioning trainers, there are plenty of books out there if you're willing to push yourself to be the best you can be.

[soccercoach]

Heard great things about Thom Nickley.

[thedunner]

I heard that Daniel Beltford produces a good product

[037542niner]

Baker can demo like no other. ; )

[Silence DoGood]

Who is Baker? Which club is he with? So what if he can demo well, is he a good trainer?

As for Nickley, he seems to have a case of 'small man's syndrome'. Not sure I would pay him good money to train my kids.

Never heard of Daniel Beltford, who is he with?

[sports7729]

Nickley is great with 13 and under boys and girls if that's what you mean by little man's syndrome. There are a couple of other good ones but Nickley has few peers when it comes to consistently developing young players. Players love him, parents love him and the results are solid! We would love to have him at our club!

[MajorFan]

Silence,

You must be new to

1) the Internet. ;-) is an emoticon. Turn your head sideways and look at it. It's a smiley face that's winking. That means the comment before it is sarcastic and

2) Dayton area soccer. Baker is Ryan Baker of Dayton Soccer Academy/Team Dayton and now Team Ohio. If you know Baker, niner's comment makes sense. If not, there's no way to explain it on a Internet forum. Baker must be experienced to be understood.

[Silence DoGood]

Getting back to the original subject....if I were going to hire someone to train kids on an individual basis, who should I hire, and what is the going rate?

[037542niner]

Try Brian Kohen.

[Silence DoGood]

Who would you hire in Cincinnati?

Is $40 - $50 per hour a fair price? What kind of results can I expect for that kind of money?

[037542niner]

$30 for 1/2 hour and $50 for full hour. Once a week for an hour should be enough with the coach if...The player is working on the drills the coach issued for at least 30 min. a day. Do this for ten weeks you will see a new player.

[KASC]

I know our club offers personal training and we run just about the same price. If you goto www.kolpingsoccer.com/PersonalSoccerTraining.html it will explain the cost. But i do agree with with the above posts. I think anything higher than 50 for an hour is just to much

[Silence DoGood]

That website doesn't list who the trainers are, or what licenses they have....but they sure didn't hesitate to list how much they charge.

[Silence DoGood]

thedunner......i think the guy you mentioned is named David. David Beltford. And what did you mean by 'he gives a good product'? Is he selling widgets?? I'm not looking for widgets or widget salesmen, I'm looking for good trainers.

[thedunner]

I was mistaken, you are correct his name is David. I over heard a few ex club coaches talking about him and they said he "gives a good product". Which I assumed to mean he was a good trainer, ---- for all I know he sells widgets too. I couldn't tell you anymore who is a good trainer, anyone can get a license so how do you know who is good? Does a license make everyone equally qualified? Widgets.... that was funny

[Silence DoGood]

thedunner....There must be a real shortage of good trainers in Cincinnati. I've asked several times for recommendations on this board, but haven't gotten any good feedback.

I would even settle for the names of any bad trainers. At least I would know which trainers to avoid.

Apparently, we have a bunch of slackers using this site who are unwilling to give their opinion. Sorry to bother everyone.

[Silence DoGood]

Robinho....don't get your panties all in a bunch. Still waiting for a single response to my original request.

By the way, I noticed that you didn't recommend anyone either. Was the question too tough for you? I'll type slower next time. When you have something constructive to add to the discussion, let me know.

[Silence DoGood]

Robinho,

You've made your point. You are the Internet Police. I'm sure thedunner is glad to know you're out there, ready and willing to step in and defend the unoffended.

Thedunner knew I was joking. He wasn't offended. He thought it was funny. But for some reason you were offended, and we can't have that.

As for the trainers and personnel that you know, I don't think I'm interested in the types of products they produce anyway, widgets or otherwise.

Take your ball and go home.

[Navydad]

I'd say no... Honestly I grew up around soccer, never played in high school, but I don't think a trainer could teach me anything more than I already know. If we're talking conditioning trainers, there are plenty of books out there if you're willing to push yourself to be the best you can be.

I think by the time you are u12-14 you have learned all the skills you need to be a good soccer player. A good trainer refines those skills and keeps them sharp. Anyone can trap a ball but how well you trap a ball while you are making a run down field with another player marking you and another one approaching to double is what makes you good.

The best I have seen is Keri Guminey Thoman. Not sure she is available for private training.

[thedunner]

I'd like to go a little deeper with Silence NoGood's original thread, and ask what is that makes a coach/trainer good? Is it the license they have, or their playing experience, or both? I'm really curious to see what people actually think makes a coach/trainer good, or qualified to coach. And why do we need trainers if we have coaches? Can't the coaches train the teams? I'm very interested in seeing what some of you think about this.

[acmilan13]

I am just curious why so much emphasis is placed on coaching licenses? I also agree with thedunner and think that players can be trained by the coaching staff.

[037542niner]

To answer what makes a good trainer is playing experience. Not so much at what level but what skill level. Obviously, if you played professionally you would be qualified to train. Maybe the exception is Frankie from the Crew. lol. If you can't demo it's very hard for children to learn. As for the difference between coaches and trainers...Coaches up until the U14 level should be focusing 75% of the time on technical training. If you haven't picked it up by then...Get a personal trainer to help catch up. I hope this helps.

[Silence DoGood]

I don't necessarily agree that playing experience determines whether someone is a good trainer. It's one thing to understand how to play, it's another thing to be able to teach it to others.

Don't get me wrong, it is important for a trainer to have a good understanding of the game at a high level, but there are a lot of former players who aren't good coaches/trainers. Conversely, there are a lot of people who may have had a limited playing career, but have become excellent trainers.

To thedunner...stop trying to hijack my discussion thread. I'm still trying to find good trainers. Know any other than Beltford?

[MajorFan]

How many do you need? Have you contacted any of the ones mentioned so far? What kind of a response have you gotten?

You started this thread two weeks ago. I hope that your kid has been out in the backyard kicking goals and learning to dribble. If he's been sitting around waiting for you to find the perfect trainer, he's toast.

The best advice my kid ever got was to learn to juggle a ball 100 times without missing.

[Silence DoGood]

My kids are back home in Boston, moving here next month. I moved in early due to work. Kids had to finish their school year.

Haven't called any of the trainers yet. I have been reading up on the names I've received, but there's not a lot of info out there. That's why I started this thread to begin with.

Any names or contact info you can provide will be much appreciated.

[CUP91]

Not sure if these guys train individually but here goes:

Alex Rawlings - DOC at Loveland. He trained my boys when they were 10-12 years old and was excellent. Not only in demonstrating but he was very demanding. A bit arrogant but his training is very good.

Wes Schulte - Not sure where Wes went (Lakota Soccer Club?? I heard he received a nice deal to train one team that would allow him to raise his family) after Ohio Elite. My boys received some individual training up at Wall2Wall during the Winter of 2006-2007 and he was very, very good.

Tom Fite - MTSC -- My daughter played for Tom for a few years (ages 11-13?) and really enjoyed his team training -- still a superb soccer player but he ran quality practices and always found time for my daughter after practice when she wanted to work on something.

Not sure of the ages of your kids but these guys are solid.

[jackhammer19]

I think Wes Schulte might be associated with the Game Time Training Center in Fairfield. I know he did some training out there last winter (Ignition..Speed & Agility maybe) & I also think he might be associated with 1-2 of the club teams from out there as well.

[MajorFan]

If you are just looking for athletic training, the Kettering Sports Medicine Center has an excellent program.

http://www.kmcnetwork.org/ksmc/sportsprograms.cfm

[Treinador]

Silence,

Send me a private message - I'm in the Cincinnati/Northern KY area. Let's see what we can work out.