How Far Would You Let Someone Go Before Enough is Enough

[Rocket_Golfer09]

Ok according to the rules of the USGA any player that either swears, throws a club, slams a club or does any other form of excessive anger is given a two stroke penalty. Well im sure most of us have either done those or have played with someone who has and there was no two stroke penalty given out.

Well what im wondering is what does everyone else think about that. Does it matter if its a high school match or a junior tournament? How bad does the player have to throw his club? How loud does he have to swear? What is everyones view on this?

Last year in a High School match my team(Lowellville) was undefeated in league and we were playing Jackson Milton who's only loss came to us early in the season. Well during the round the Jackson two man slammed his club several times and let loose a couple of "bleep bleep". Well i did not give him any penalty because i never felt bothered by that and i dont want to win by way of a two stroke penalty... Well at the end of the day my team played bad and we lost the match by one stroke!!! After the match our assistant coach was angry that i did not two stroke the Jackson two man.

Personaly, I dont regret not doing it.

Any thoughts about this or opinions on how far you let it slide?

[mannhoodd]

in basketball, slamming the ball down after the play or swearing too loudly (especially if it is directed towards an opposing player or ref) can both land a player of a coach with a technical foul.

In football, excessive endzone celebrations or slamming of helmets onto the ground can be a 15 yd penalty.

every sport has their rule for these kinds of things. personally I think the that the two stroke rule is effective enough, but just like other sports, make sure enough warnings are given to be fair to the other team and players.

[Rocket_Golfer09]

True about the other sports but dont you think there would be less calls if the opposing players had to give out technicals. Like I cant see a basketball player t-ing an opponent up for slamming a ball because in his mind its "yes he is ticked haha, but i wouldnt want to beat this team because they got a technical"?

I think it is a good rule im just saying its hard to give one out when your the opponent. now if it were an official ont he course then i think it would be the same way as basketball.

[redcap4]

Rocket tough question in a sport that govern itself. I know the player,and when we, McDonald played them he also was not shy about his tirades.In our case our No.1-4 players witnessed this and they chose not to do anything either but whats right is right. CALL IT. You may save this guys butt down the line at ITCL or even more important Sectionals.I know you have your rocket team mates behind you. Be a leader,do whats right, he may not like it at the time but someday he will thank you.

[TheEture]

Yea someone has stroked me for this but the thing was it was exactly what i needed because he did it at the turn and the back nine i was so focused on beating him instead of getting mad i shot 4 under. So in some ways its ok but i cused twice not even that loud and he said it bothered him and thats all the rules officials needed to hear. So even though it is a good rule not all people are like Rocket and use it when it should be used but some kids will use that rule to win and thats pretty sad

[ROME]

I don't understand how players can complain about getting two-stroked for this when they know it's a rule, just the same as if you were carrying more the 14. And like redcap said "Show them no mercy, for they will show you none!", okay maybe that wasn't said and that might be a little extreme. But it's true that when sectionals come and you are playing with kids that you don't regularly play with in league they aren't going to care about whether they think it is a stupid rule or not. Because they want to win and a wins a win. And since the coach is not always going to be around it is up to the players to call infractions. I think that a warning should be given first before a penalty is given though. I know at Districts last year a Springfield player tried to penalize someone for this (the opposing player swore on every hole) but the rules official said that he should have been contacted during the round and that then the official would have then given the opposing player a warning, and because the official was not told about the players actions until the end of the round no penalty was given I believe. I'm not convinced though that when it comes down to state though and your opponent is throwing a tantrum and you don't penalize them and your team loses by one stroke you won't regret it. You have to look at a penalty like this like a foul in basketball, once you hit the bonus you are shooting then every foul against the other team you are given the chance to increase you lead. Someone throws a club that's their foul and the two stroke penalty is like the foul shots you can make to add to your teams lead.

[skins99]

I have cursed and slamed clubs in southern ohio pga events and not been fined by our governing body (pga) but if they saw me fling a club i would be in Gil Gusweilers office before i could finish picking it up

[Price_Hillbilly]

Jeremy McNutt from Sycamore stroked me for saying "d@mn" under my breath after I missed a 4 footer in a dual match in '96.

Rick Bohne (Moeller Coach) tried to get a teammate of mine for saying "God."

I think I'd rather play naked twister with the Golden Girls than to ever see either of these two on a golf course again.

It's not a bad rule, but should only be used when the swearing/antics is excessive. The two neanderthals above need to get a life.

[ROME]

I think I'd rather play naked twister with the Golden Girls than to ever see either of these two on a golf course again.

It's not a bad rule, but should only be used when the swearing/antics is excessive. The two neanderthals above need to get a life.

Well I can agree with you that it should only be used when the golfer is doing excessive swearing/antics but what's wrong with Blanche :Ohno: lol