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consumerman
12-29-07, 03:08 AM
Just wanted to update a few of Coach Lad's coaching records
He has completed his 29th season as head coach at De La Salle
23 section championships (plus 2 section final losses, DLS has made their section final every year since 1984)
18 undefeated seasons
20 losses in 29 seasons, 6 losses in the last 17 seasons, 11 losses in the last 24 seasons
he has almost as many undefeated seasons (18) as losses (20) over 29 years
at one point (2003) he had 17 undefeated seasons and just 14 losses
I believe he has 330 wins and 3 ties as well
losses
1979: 6-3; California 3-0, Salesian 32-0, Moreau 26-24
1980: 8-2; Riordan 24-14, St Patrick 24-21
1981: 7-2; College Park 24-17, Salesian 21-17
1982: 12-0
1983: 8-2-1; Salesian 24-13, Miramonte (playoffs) 13-7
1984: 11-1; Skyline 22-21
1985: 12-0
1986: 12-0
1987: 11-1; Monte Vista (section final) 14-13
1988: 13-0
1989: 11-2; St. Francis 18-16, El Cerrito 14-13
1990: 13-0
1991: 12-1; Pittsburg (section final) 35-27
1992: 13-0
1993: 13-0
1994: 13-0
1995: 13-0
1996: 12-0
1997: 12-0
1998: 12-0
1999: 12-0
2000: 13-0
2001: 12-0
2002: 13-0
2003: 13-0
2004: 8-3-2; Bellevue 39-20, Clovis West 30-12, Mission Viejo 17-14
2005: 11-2; Clovis West 7-0, Mission Viejo 36-26
2006: 13-1; Canyon Country (state bowl game) 27-13
2007: 13-0
151 game win streak 1992-2003
44 game win streak 1984-1987
34 game win streak 1989-1991
in the seven years 1984-1990, DLS had 4 losses, by 1,1,1 and 2 points
in the twenty years 1984-2003, DLS had 5 losses by 1,1,1,2 and 8 points
DLS has been shut out 3 times in 29 years and once in 28 years
their consecutive game scoring streak from 1979 to 2004 (over 300 games) is a national record
pro football consecutive victories - 18 Patriots
college football - oklahoma 47 victories
previous high school record - Hudson (Mi) 72 victories
pro basketball - lakers 33 victories
college basketball - ucla 88 victories
pro baseball - 26 victories
consumerman
12-29-07, 03:25 AM
STREAK ITEMS 151 games
closest games during the streak:
1993: Pittsburg 26-21
1995: St Marys 35-25
1998: Mater Dei 28-21
2000: Buchanan 30-24
2000: Mater Dei 31-28
2002: St. Louis 31-21
all other victories were at least 14 points
lowest point total:
2002 St. Francis 14-0, all other games DLS scored at least 21 points
highest points allowed:
1995: Berkeley (playoffs) 56-31
1999: Ygnacio Valley 71-32
consumerman
12-29-07, 03:34 AM
All American players
Amani Toomer
Aaron Taylor - future Outland Trophy Winner at Notre Dame
DJ Williams (national player of the year)
Kevin Simon
Derek Landri
Maurice Drew (now Jones-Drew)
Worth noting is that prior to Lad's arrival in '79 DLS never had a winning season. DLS football started in '71 & first Varsity season in '72. School did not intend on having a football team, but was talked into it by Ed Hall, a San Francisco Policeman who started the program. When Hall left DLS's hiring of a 23 year old with no formal coaching experience was controversial. DLS sports across the board had done nothing of note prior to his arrival. As a school overall, the local public schools more or less laughed at this small catholic school in their backyard that was more or less in survival mode. They all seemed to enjoy making fun of the little engine that couldn't.
Lad's influence and expectation of excellence has elevated the entire school. DLS's Athletic Program is one of the top 2 or 3 in the State of California, and top 15 in the USA. Numerous state titles by many teams, DLS is now the Big Bad Wolf of the SF Bay Area. The same schools that used to laugh at DLS now decry all of their advantages and blame everything short of sunspots on DLS.
Most importantly, DLS is not about football. Drive by the school and you'd never even know that they have a football team. Walk on the campus you will see absolutely nothing glorifiying the football program, or any other sports program. DLS is about the development of young men, and has always been that way. The Principal sees the football program as a vehicle to get the message out about who DLS is, which is necessary to ensure their financial viability.
Despite Lad's extraordinary accomplishments, he is the most humble man you will ever meet. In a room full of men he is one of the last that you would peg as a football coach, let alone a hall of fame coach.
When Lad steps down it is hard to imagine that the football program can continue at the high level of excellence that they have performed for so many years. I expect that DLS teams will continue to perform well and at among the highest levels of the Bay Area, just not at the ridiculous levels that they have.
You dont' follow Lombardi with another Lombardi.
Bordertown
12-29-07, 04:31 PM
That's impressive. Ranks up there with Gordon Wood & G.A. Moore.
RockinL
01-02-08, 09:43 AM
All American players
Amani Toomer
Aaron Taylor - future Outland Trophy Winner at Notre Dame
DJ Williams (national player of the year)
Kevin Simon
Derek Landri
Maurice Drew (now Jones-Drew)
Wow! 6 All Americans. How lucky can one school be to have all of those? Any idea how many D1 recruits they had during the streak?
Price_Hillbilly
01-02-08, 01:25 PM
Unparalleled as the best football program in HS sports history. No offense to any in the past, but there is NO comparison. DLS football is also arguably the greatest single sport (across all) program...ever.
And one of the biggest reasons we in OH have so much respect for DLS is the fact that they are clean, well-rounded, classy people who surround their accolades, merits, and accomplishments with respect, and their failures (though few) with celibacy.
And just as a side note, I'll take the disciplined, intelligent football players over the uber-talented, chest-thumping idiots coming out of other programs not to be mentioned here.
...cough...Florida.
STREAK ITEMS 151 games
closest games during the streak:
1993: Pittsburg 26-21
1995: St Marys 35-25
1998: Mater Dei 28-21
2000: Buchanan 30-24
2000: Mater Dei 31-28
2002: St. Louis 31-21
all other victories were at least 14 points
lowest point total:
2002 St. Francis 14-0, all other games DLS scored at least 21 points
highest points allowed:
1995: Berkeley (playoffs) 56-31
1999: Ygnacio Valley 71-32
Those might be the most impressive stats in the streak. Even if they avoided competition and just sought out cup cakes those #'s would be impossible.
Think of some of the close gmes we try to rationalize in a title contender's season. That's over thirteen freaking years.
That is domination.
Chicago
01-02-08, 01:59 PM
http://ezinearticles.com/?Offensive-Line-Quickness-Drill---The-De-La-Salle-Tennis-Ball-Drill&id=741839
Enjoy.
consumerman
01-02-08, 05:37 PM
Those might be the most impressive stats in the streak. Even if they avoided competition and just sought out cup cakes those #'s would be impossible.
Think of some of the close gmes we try to rationalize in a title contender's season. That's over thirteen freaking years.
That is domination.
In those 6 games listed, in the last 5 DLS never trailed at any point at any time in the game. The 1993 Pitt game they were actually trailing 21-19 I believe when they hit a long pass play with precious time left on the clock.
They did trail in other games but that was very rare. Sometimes the other team would get the first score and DLS would trail 7-0 or 3-0. A few times DLS scored first, missed the XP then trailed by like 7-6. All of those early deficits were usually handily overcome by large margins.
Throw in their previous 5 losses over 8 years by 1,1,1,2 and 8 points (in that game there was a 95 yard int return or a 14 point swing) and DLS record for 20 years is almost unheard of.
Unparalleled as the best football program in
And one of the biggest reasons we in OH have so much respect for DLS is the fact that they are clean, well-rounded, classy people who surround their accolades, merits, and accomplishments with respect, and their failures (though few) with celibacy.
Are they uncelibate after victories? This may explain DLS success.
Price_Hillbilly
01-03-08, 03:38 PM
Does humbleness suit you better? You pick.
Their games generally look like my Tecmo Bowl scores.
naughty
01-06-08, 10:42 PM
Unparalleled as the best football program in HS sports history. No offense to any in the past, but there is NO comparison. DLS football is also arguably the greatest single sport (across all) program...ever.
And one of the biggest reasons we in OH have so much respect for DLS is the fact that they are clean, well-rounded, classy people who surround their accolades, merits, and accomplishments with respect, and their failures (though few) with celibacy.
And just as a side note, I'll take the disciplined, intelligent football players over the uber-talented, chest-thumping idiots coming out of other programs not to be mentioned here.
...cough...Florida.
thats ok. and we will take our two basketball drubbings and one football drubbing over
Cough OSU any day.
people who don't respect what dls did are just crazy
But every streak must end. Which is what happened in Florida recently. The most consective wins in history in any sport. The Brandon Eagles finally messed one up. They had Won 384 consective dual matches. They had not lost in 35 years. They lost sat. in the championship round of the competition they were in , in their home gym. Before a Packed gym they lost 32-38. In a hard fought match between two of the states power wrestling programs.(well at least south dade was last year, and i guess again this year) The south dade coach was 2 years old the last time Brandon lost.
EveryTHING must come to an end. What you learn from that THING makes it a LEGEND.
thats ok. and we will take our two basketball drubbings and one football drubbing over
Cough OSU any day.
people who don't respect what dls did are just crazy
But every streak must end. Which is what happened in Florida recently. The most consective wins in history in any sport. The Brandon Eagles finally messed one up. They had Won 384 consective dual matches. They had not lost in 35 years. They lost sat. in the championship round of the competition they were in , in their home gym. Before a Packed gym they lost 32-38. In a hard fought match between two of the states power wrestling programs.(well at least south dade was last year, and i guess again this year) The south dade coach was 2 years old the last time Brandon lost.
EveryTHING must come to an end. What you learn from that THING makes it a LEGEND.
You or someone is going to have to help a wrestling ignorant Texan here.
I read that they have not lost since '73. I look up that they have won 18 State titles since their first in '77. During that time they have several runner ups.
OK. I don't know wrestling, I admit that. If you win 18/31 from 77-07, and finish runners up a few times, that means that someone beat you, right?
Can someone help me understand this better?
naughty
01-07-08, 01:23 PM
You or someone is going to have to help a wrestling ignorant Texan here.
I read that they have not lost since '73. I look up that they have won 18 State titles since their first in '77. During that time they have several runner ups.
OK. I don't know wrestling, I admit that. If you win 18/31 from 77-07, and finish runners up a few times, that means that someone beat you, right?
Can someone help me understand this better?
NO state is a combined team score. Meaning each wrestlers scores are added up to make the team score. dual meets are team vs team. So for example state is joe byod vs. hall samson. Dual meets are Brandon vs. South dade. If that helps any.
NO state is a combined team score. Meaning each wrestlers scores are added up to make the team score. dual meets are team vs team. So for example state is joe byod vs. hall samson. Dual meets are Brandon vs. South dade. If that helps any.
I think so. How many meets are dual vs. "combined team score" are there each year?
naughty
01-07-08, 01:32 PM
I think so. How many meets are dual vs. "combined team score" are there each year?
it depends. Usually if the team is good enough they host a meet every year. Or the county will host a meet and all the teams from the county usually go and compete against each other. I know brandon has been all over the country in that streak and won meets. But someone correct me if i am wrong but most of the competitions are dual meets not combined team score.
Chicago
01-07-08, 01:53 PM
You can also have dual tournaments.
They are rare, though. Essentially, it's like a basketball tournament -- Round of 16, etc. The whole team wrestles another whole team, and every individual on the winning team moves on, even if they lost their individual match, and the team then wrestles another whole team.
In most end-of-season tournaments, however, wrestlers have to qualify individually, and having more top wrestlers matters more than depth. So you might beat another team in a dual meet, but if they qualify five guys for state (or NCAAs) and you qualify three, you are in a big hole.
I think the streak was only dual matches (impressive as it was).
I think the streak was only dual matches (impressive as it was).
Seems to be apples and oranges. Super impressive, but I am a football guy and it's hard for me to reconcile that a winning streak can include more runner-ups or lower finishes than championships during that "winning" streak.
Chicago
01-07-08, 02:09 PM
That's what happens when you have a team sport that is purely a collection of individual performances (in which individual performances don't directly affect each other).
Cross country, swimming, and track (other than relays, which still include only a small portion of the team) work the same way.
If you want to find the top individuals, you have to have a tournament for individuals.
If you want the true top teams, you have to have a tournament for teams.
If you don't have time for both, you have a tournament for individuals, and add up team points.
It's like the cross country discussion. Footlocker was for individuals, and didn't identify the top teams. Nike was for teams, and some top individuals got left out, because their teams didn't qualify.
There is a collegiate national dual wrestling tournament in addition to the NCAA Championships (which are on a points system, and wrestlers have to qualify).
http://unipanthers.cstv.com/sports/m-wrestl/spec-rel/niwa-07-nwca-main.html
I don't know how recognized it is, though.
Chicago
01-07-08, 02:12 PM
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/breaking_news/story/368653.html
naughty
01-07-08, 03:44 PM
That's what happens when you have a team sport that is purely a collection of individual performances (in which individual performances don't directly affect each other).
Cross country, swimming, and track (other than relays, which still include only a small portion of the team) work the same way.
If you want to find the top individuals, you have to have a tournament for individuals.
If you want the true top teams, you have to have a tournament for teams.
If you don't have time for both, you have a tournament for individuals, and add up team points.
It's like the cross country discussion. Footlocker was for individuals, and didn't identify the top teams. Nike was for teams, and some top individuals got left out, because their teams didn't qualify.
There is a collegiate national dual wrestling tournament in addition to the NCAA Championships (which are on a points system, and wrestlers have to qualify).
http://unipanthers.cstv.com/sports/m-wrestl/spec-rel/niwa-07-nwca-main.html
I don't know how recognized it is, though.
All of brandons 384 consective wins over the 35 year streak period in came TEAM TOURAMENTS. They even went up north and won the beast of the east if i recall right. I dont know how the Beast is ran but if it is not run like that then i know they at least placed very high. They beat st.eds i think.
Chicago
01-07-08, 03:59 PM
It looks like it was all duals.
http://www.heraldtribune.com/article/20080105/SPORTS/864548881
naughty
01-07-08, 05:18 PM
It looks like it was all duals.
http://www.heraldtribune.com/article/20080105/SPORTS/864548881
yea looks like it. either way it was a remarkable run. 384 is something no one has ever seen. And being that they had opened up and was going to take on all challengers of the streak. Finally someone got them.
consumerman
01-07-08, 07:26 PM
umm this thread IS about DLS and Coach Lad
not wrestling
thank you
naughty
01-07-08, 10:01 PM
umm this thread IS about DLS and Coach Lad
not wrestling
thank you
well i talked about a large streak and it kind of went in that direction. So who cares at least the thread is getting looked at.
consumerman
04-17-08, 09:55 PM
Just wanted to update a few of Coach Lad's coaching records
He has completed his 29th season as head coach at De La Salle
23 section championships (plus 2 section final losses, DLS has made their section final every year since 1984)
18 undefeated seasons
20 losses in 29 seasons, 6 losses in the last 17 seasons, 11 losses in the last 24 seasons
he has almost as many undefeated seasons (18) as losses (20) over 29 years
at one point (2003) he had 17 undefeated seasons and just 14 losses
I believe he has 330 wins and 3 ties as well
losses
1979: 6-3; California 3-0, Salesian 32-0, Moreau 26-24
1980: 8-2; Riordan 24-14, St Patrick 24-21
1981: 7-2; College Park 24-17, Salesian 21-17
1982: 12-0
1983: 8-2-1; Salesian 24-13, Miramonte (playoffs) 13-7
1984: 11-1; Skyline 22-21
1985: 12-0
1986: 12-0
1987: 11-1; Monte Vista (section final) 14-13
1988: 13-0
1989: 11-2; St. Francis 18-16, El Cerrito 14-13
1990: 13-0
1991: 12-1; Pittsburg (section final) 35-27
1992: 13-0
1993: 13-0
1994: 13-0
1995: 13-0
1996: 12-0
1997: 12-0
1998: 12-0
1999: 12-0
2000: 13-0
2001: 12-0
2002: 13-0
2003: 13-0
2004: 8-3-2; Bellevue 39-20, Clovis West 30-12, Mission Viejo 17-14
2005: 11-2; Clovis West 7-0, Mission Viejo 36-26
2006: 13-1; Canyon Country (state bowl game) 27-13
2007: 13-0
151 game win streak 1992-2003
44 game win streak 1984-1987
34 game win streak 1989-1991
in the seven years 1984-1990, DLS had 4 losses, by 1,1,1 and 2 points
in the twenty years 1984-2003, DLS had 5 losses by 1,1,1,2 and 8 points
DLS has been shut out 3 times in 29 years and once in 28 years
their consecutive game scoring streak from 1979 to 2004 (over 300 games) is a national record
pro football consecutive victories - 18 Patriots
college football - oklahoma 47 victories
previous high school record - Hudson (Mi) 72 victories
pro basketball - lakers 33 victories
college basketball - ucla 88 victories
pro baseball - 26 victories
bump
Plaindriver
04-18-08, 12:07 AM
Wow! 6 All Americans. How lucky can one school be to have all of those? Any idea how many D1 recruits they had during the streak?
Im pretty sure they had at least 20! And since 2004, they had one more.
consumerman
04-18-08, 07:51 PM
bump
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05-21-08, 12:41 AM
All of brandons 384 consective wins over the 35 year streak period in came TEAM TOURAMENTS. They even went up north and won the beast of the east if i recall right. I dont know how the Beast is ran but if it is not run like that then i know they at least placed very high. They beat st.eds i think.
Brandon finished second to Blair at Beast, and St. Eds finished third.
consumerman
08-05-08, 07:52 PM
go spartans
consumerman
09-13-08, 09:19 PM
Hurd: In 30th year, De La Salle's Ladouceur still coaching 'life'
By Rick Hurd
Staff columnist
Article Launched: 09/12/2008 09:54:02 PM PDT
Coach Ladouceur celebrates 30th anniversary
High school football for Friday, Sept. 12
As names go, his would seem to be out of place. The mention of De La Salle High School's more memorable players generally does not inspire recollections of an obscure backup lineman.
Unless it's the legendary head coach doing the recollecting.
Bob Ladouceur mentions a kid named Sandy Enea. A kid who, in his coach's eyes, seemed to be just a bit lacking in the qualities heart, desire, work ethic that Ladouceur covets most. Ladouceur figured his team would be better off without Enea, and that Enea would be better off pursuing something else.
Then Enea asked for one more chance. Ladouceur set the bar. And in the end, Enea cleared it with room to spare. "I took just as much pride in that kid," Bob Ladouceur says, "as any of our quote-unquote stars."
If you needed an anecdote that best sums up why the guy better known as "Lad" has built one of prep sports' true Goliaths, you'd be hard-pressed to find a better one. Today, he will charge well, run painfully into his 30th season as the lord of the Spartans, bringing with him the same philosophies he brought to the job in 1979. And, barring an act of God, he'll continue to succeed wildly.
Then again, it was probably just such an act that brought what former player, current assistant and likely eventual replacement Justin Alumbaugh calls "the right guy to the right school in the right environment. ... It was like the stars converged," and
it is difficult to believe they didn't.
See, inside the walls of De La Salle's football office, they rejoice in a lot of things, but none of it concerns The Streak (the national-record mark of 151 consecutive victories that ended in 2004); the championships (23 North Coast Section titles, and one California Interscholastic Federation banner and five mythical national crowns); or Ladouceur's march toward the state record for coaching wins (at 332, he needs 12 more).
No, what they talk about are the clichιs, the really old-fashioned ones no one individual is greater than a team; self-sacrifice is its own reward, all synonymous with what he calls a "strive for perfection" that so many of us hear but so few of us get.
Which is why the story Ladouceur relays about Enea is so telling. In the end, he became a kid who got it, as so many of Lad's players do. Not all, of course, but who wouldn't want that winning percentage? Let's not talk 332 wins. Let's talk lives shaped.
"I know when I came in, I was pretty arrogant, pretty lazy," Alumbaugh says. "But playing for him, and being part of the school community opened my eyes a lot. It teaches you your limitations and how to overcome them."
In life, he might've added, not just on the football field.
"People don't give young men credit," Alumbaugh says. "They can spot a phony a mile away."
At 54, Ladouceur oozes genuineness. He's a grandfather now "Awesome," he says, adding "I pay attention to things now that I never did when I had my own kids" and he's a bit more gray.
He's a touch wrinkled and doesn't hum as efficiently. He is not quite four years removed from a heart attack that changed him "not a lot," he says, and he "had a tough time recovering," after the grind of last season.
"Normally, you use the holidays to recharge and start looking ahead," he says of the aftermath of 17 straight weeks of work without a day off. Asked if he can slough off you know, given his success and all he refuses, saying, "I feel I'd be cheating our players," and he would be.
Never demand anything, another of Ladouceur's credos goes, that you can't do yourself.
He still is shadowed by a great staff, chief among them defensive coordinator Terry Eidson, Lad's "best friend," and the Oscar Madison to Lad's Felix Unger.
And, Ladouceur says, he still enjoys the heck out of it. Sure, he'd changed some things, among them, he says, the expectations parents bring and the pressures they create for their kids. Nor is he pleased that "there's more show-boating, more me-first," among kids.
But ...
"At their core, kids are still the same," he says. "It's what you do to reach them. ... I truly do believe that winning comes as the result of so many little things we do ... (things such as) goal-setting, and other drills we have. ... I feel no different than the teacher coaching algebra. ... We're gonna get the max out of them."
No doubt Sandy Enea would attest.
consumerman
09-13-08, 10:31 PM
with today's victory coach L is now 11 wins shy of the all time california record
at 54 years old
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