New national #1 for calpreps 12/17 [Archive]

consumerman

12-17-07, 05:49 PM

yallerjacket

12-17-07, 05:51 PM

Calpreps is a joke and you know it.

consumerman

12-17-07, 05:54 PM

Calpreps is a joke and you know it.

my answer is all we hear all day long is the ohio boys touting calpreps SOS and how that proves ST X is the best team in the nation

well calpreps ranks DLS ahead of St X

I will only say that despite the flaws, ST X can crow all day long about their SOS according to calpreps, now they can also eat their humble pie as DLS is ranked higher by the saem site: calpreps

concha

12-17-07, 06:02 PM

DLS top opponent, according to calpreps, is rated higher than any team ST X played this year

and DLS did not need 3 overtimes to win by 3 points
or almost lose when the opponent was within about 10 yards from the end zone as time ran out as in the Ohio semis

congrats DLS

DLS's overall schedule isn't close. Not remotely.

Only 5 DLS opponents even hit the Top 1000.

Only one of X's opponents isn't amongst the top 1000.

DLS didn't play several hours from home with a new QB, did they?

Per calpreps, DLS played roughly one tough opponent all year. In that game, they managed to blow a 24-point lead and damned near lost. One tough game and they're choking and cleaning their shorts out. But you want to be the monkey throwing poop at X? You must be joking.

Bomber02

12-17-07, 06:02 PM

51 v 34...

consumerman

12-17-07, 06:03 PM

permanent ignored is so cool

consumerman

12-17-07, 06:05 PM

to reitierate

all those bomberblueboys that crow about SOS for ST X (using calpreps) can now read and weep

DLS #1 ranked team on calpreps

cant have your cake and eat it too

DLS outscored 13 opponents 392--28 in the first half

including a team ranked higher than anybody ST X played

St X gave up 24 points in one first half
and nearly loss to an unranked team, taking 3 overtimes to win by 3 points
and came within a few seconds (extension) of losing a game they were barely leading 10-7 when the opponent was driving for the winning score

calpreps DLS #1

concha

12-17-07, 06:05 PM

PROJECT A MATCHUP

neutral field
[2007] St. Xavier (Cincinnati, OH) 28, [2007] De La Salle (Concord, CA) 21

consumerman

12-17-07, 06:10 PM

Rank Previous School Record Schedule
1 6 DLS (Concord, CA) 13-0 Last: 12/15 beat Centennial (Corona, CA) 37-31
2 1 St. Xavier (Cincinnati, OH) 15-0 Last: 12/01 beat Mentor (OH) 27-0

as plain as the eye can see

consumerman

12-17-07, 06:15 PM

current #1's for 7 separate polls\

MNW 4
St X 2
DLS 1

it has been said (see colerain SLC 2004 and Lakeland SLC 2005 etc) that a number 1 ranking in at least 1 poll allows a claim to a national championship)

so 2007 national champs (at least 1 poll) are
MNW

and
ST X

and DLS

consumerman

12-17-07, 06:26 PM

and lets not forget calpreps predicted DLS to lose against CC

and despite a Halloween 12 minutes in the 4th Q, (once a year nightmare events - safeties, 2 point conversions, a WR reverse pass in which Czyz was 12 yards behind the defenders only to have a sure TD turn into a pick) in which Centennial sccored 24 points to tie the game....

DLS dominated a team that's LOWEST point total of the year was 31 points, 31-7 after 2 1/2 Q and after surviving the Halloween onslaught, came back like champions and put together a TD drive, a big 4th down stuff and a pick to seal the game

Czyz was faceguarded and interfered with on that one pass in the endzone (even the SoCal announcers said as much) and the comments were that despite 7 face masks, CC got away with way too much

but the better team still won

consumerman

12-17-07, 06:33 PM

its funny

DLS wins a playoff game 50-15 and drops from 3 to 8

they win a section championship game 37-0 and drop from 8 to 13

they win a state championship 37-31 and go from 13 to 1

Bomber02

12-17-07, 07:17 PM

calpreps for ya

Wilco98

12-17-07, 11:09 PM

Sure must be nice to be able to argue about who is the top team in the country!:rolleyes:

No thanks, I'll take my 14-1 2007 Ohio Division 4 State Champion team any day of the week.

These national polls are great for folks who want to get their panties in a bunch about their all-powerful team and its being shafted or crowned king of the hill.

Again, no thanks. I'll sit back with the rest of the commonfolk and get lost in anonymity.

Well, I guess Coldwater's not COMPLETELY anonymous on the national scene. The boys did get a couple mentions for knocking Mooney off the top of the heap!!!:cool:

phsbomber

12-18-07, 10:32 AM

DLS top opponent, according to calpreps, is rated higher than any team ST X played this year

and DLS did not need 3 overtimes to win by 3 points
or almost lose when the opponent was within about 10 yards from the end zone as time ran out as in the Ohio semis

congrats DLS

consumerman,

Congrats to DLS from St X!!

Undefeated, state champs, #1 in the national poll...can't ask for the kids to do more. Well done.

As for all of the "bickering"...NWN, DLS and X can all claim #1...based on different polls. I am glad that all three are ranked #1 in various polls. I honestly believe that any of the three could beat any of the others on a given day on neutral fields.

Enjoys the accomplishment with the DLS faithful. From St X , a heartfelt congrats.

consumerman

12-18-07, 10:56 AM

consumerman,

Congrats to DLS from St X!!

Undefeated, state champs, #1 in the national poll...can't ask for the kids to do more. Well done.

As for all of the "bickering"...NWN, DLS and X can all claim #1...based on different polls. I am glad that all three are ranked #1 in various polls. I honestly believe that any of the three could beat any of the others on a given day on neutral fields.

Enjoys the accomplishment with the DLS faithful. From St X , a heartfelt congrats.

thank you for you nice comments

I am used to someone saying Team X played a better schedule or Team M has better athletes but rarely saying DLS had a great season and congrats,

you have class

I wish more people were like you

SLCDad

12-18-07, 11:09 AM

DLS top opponent, according to calpreps, is rated higher than any team ST X played this year

Be careful what you say about DLS strength of schedule. The DLS schedule is rated 18 points weaker PER GAME than the StX schedule (assuming you believe Calpreps).

Congrats to DLS regardless.

Chicago

12-18-07, 11:13 AM

Yes, Consumerman, be careful.

You never know when some nut is going to take a shot at you, even though you're right.

Hurri-Comet

12-18-07, 11:32 AM

MNW would "roll" DLS; Coldwater probably could give them a game. Calpreps sucks because they diss Florida, it's so evident. That is the matchup I would want to see. Florida vs. California. :cool:

Chicago

12-18-07, 11:47 AM

So Deerfield Beach would "roll" DLS, too?

SLCDad

12-18-07, 01:27 PM

Yes, Consumerman, be careful.

You never know when some nut is going to take a shot at you, even though you're right.

Are you seriously arguing that the DLS schedule is on the same planet as the StX schedule?

Yeah, DLS played the #11 team but after that you will find 10 StX opponents that are all ranked higher than the 2nd best team that DLS played. The two schedules aren't even close.

Chicago

12-18-07, 01:38 PM

No.

Unless Yappi has a feature where you can draw pictures with crayons of various colors, I don't know that there is a way to explain it so that you can understand it.

SLCDad

12-18-07, 02:23 PM

No.

Unless Yappi has a feature where you can draw pictures with crayons of various colors, I don't know that there is a way to explain it so that you can understand it.

Well . . . . I suppose his argument that turn about is fair regarding the Calpreps model has merit, however, coming from a guy who has trashed the model many times the argument seems shallow.

Also, any arguement that DLS played anything close to a tough schedule is a total joke. Further, making an argument that DLS should claim a national title is very, very thin.

Chicago

12-18-07, 02:29 PM

Well, I think they would have beaten Abilene.

SLCDad

12-18-07, 03:23 PM

Well, I think they would have beaten Abilene.

Probably . . . but to bad about Canyon, Clovis West, Mission Viejo, Bellvue, and the four other teams they didn't beat recently.

Chicago

12-18-07, 03:50 PM

Wow. You really follow DLS closely.

Did your kids go there?

consumerman

12-18-07, 05:27 PM

Probably . . . but to bad about Canyon, Clovis West, Mission Viejo, Bellvue, and the four other teams they didn't beat recently.

actually you aready have them all

MV Bellevue and CW in 2004
CW and MV in 2005
Canyon in 2006

that sums up ALL the opponents that have beat DLS since 1991

consumerman

12-18-07, 05:28 PM

Chicago

12-18-07, 05:32 PM

Sure, you go undefeated and win a state championship in the largest classification of the largest state in the country, and you're just reaching to think you might have a claim to #1 in the country.

SLCDad

12-18-07, 05:36 PM

actually you aready have them all

MV Bellevue and CW in 2004
CW and MV in 2005
Canyon in 2006

that sums up ALL the opponents that have beat DLS since 1991

Plus the two more games that DLS didn't win in 2004. That's makes the eight in my post.

Bordertown

12-18-07, 09:28 PM

making an argument that DLS should claim a national title is very, very thin.

others have said if you are ranked #1 in at least 1 poll you can claim a national championship

DLS is ranked #1 in calpreps

Congrats on your National Championship in Calpreps. So you agree Texas was 1970 National Champions!

By the way the Calpreps is not final. There is one week of high school football remaining. I am not sure why everyone else has already finished. Katy will probably surge in week 16.

By the way you are right DLS. They have played highest ranked team between DLS & St X. But do you realize that St X holds positions 2-11, 13 & 14th, and are tied on #15. DLS has played the 8 weakest teams. I will allow the readers to come to their own conclusions.

lancer1997

12-19-07, 10:17 PM

This is incredibly dumb. As a DLS fan let me put this out there:

In no way does any DLS fan believe a Calpreps #1 translates into a #1 ranking.

Furthermore in my own estimation St. X deserves the MNC this year for having a schedule where 9 regional or national ranked teams were beaten by the Bombers this year, according to prepnation.com

And that ends this discussion IMO.

DLS won a state title and deserves top 5 billing, but MNC status? That should be St. X's honor....this year.....

PhillyBomber

12-20-07, 08:10 PM

http://calpreps.com/cgi-bin/2007/polls_view.pl?poll=compilation&week=12%2F17&submit=submit

All that matters.

consumerman

12-21-07, 01:39 AM

http://calpreps.com/cgi-bin/2007/polls_view.pl?poll=compilation&week=12%2F17&submit=submit

All that matters.

yes

3 separate teams show at least 1 number 1 ranking and MNW has the most 4

in the old olympic judging, they used to take out the highest vote and lowest vote for each team or athlete and then added the rest

if they did that, MNW 24 disappears as does one of their 4 1's and they rule the roost by far

concha

12-21-07, 09:04 AM

yes

3 separate teams show at least 1 number 1 ranking and MNW has the most 4

in the old olympic judging, they used to take out the highest vote and lowest vote for each team or athlete and then added the rest

if they did that, MNW 24 disappears as does one of their 4 1's and they rule the roost by far

The average ranking would be:

MNW: 1.4

X: 1.8

That's "by far"? One poll switches them and it's tied. Get a clue.

consumerman

12-21-07, 11:14 AM

1 1 1 2 2
1 2 2 2 2

it is easy to see which is the higher ranked team

except for idiots who can never give another team or state any credit

broken record

concha

12-21-07, 11:58 AM

1 1 1 2 2
1 2 2 2 2

it is easy to see which is the higher ranked team

except for idiots who can never give another team or state any credit

broken record

1 1 1 2 2
1 2 2 2 2

Change the order in just one poll, idiot. It's that close.

1 1 2 2 2
1 1 2 2 2

"Rule the roost by far". Right, genius.

consumerman

12-21-07, 04:55 PM

MNW has 4 number 1 rankings
ST X has 2

"switch 1 around" WTF is that
switch the other way and its 5-1

Idiot

concha

12-21-07, 07:01 PM

You may be the most stupid human to ever have walked this earth.

WoodyHayes

12-21-07, 08:33 PM

RidgePride

12-21-07, 09:22 PM

I got to watch a lot of the teams this year and I think that X and DLS would be a very good game. I think Booker T Washington beats them both and MNW beats them all. I think MNW raises its level to what it needs to. Watching X and MNW from an objectionable seat makes it pretty easy to see who wins this matchup.
Now the game I would like to see would be 04 Colerain line up against the Bulls. That would be a game.
Dublin Coffmans defense stifled X. Can you imagine what the Bulls would do? X would probably score 7. The Bulls would pull it out about 21-7.

I kinda agree with you. MNW is #1 and BTW is top 5 maybe even 3. This is a good year for Florida Football, However
If all these top teams played each other, I bet it would turn out Team A beats Team B- Team B beats team C- Team C beats Team A.

People forget about matchups. Who is the best team in College this year? They all have losses.