Who's looking out for the kids?

[Buckeye29]

I read a post on Ellet's forum that said that if Springfield goes to the black stripe league they will have no equipment. I also read that the high school coaches favor the black stripe league, so the will get the fields. Is this right? One league gets the fields and the other league gets the equipment? Where do the kids that want to play football figure into all of this? Seems to me that the people in charge, so to speak, should get together and swallow their pride and figure out what's best for the kids! What difference does it make who can p--- farther if the kids don't get to play football? Just my opinion. Take it for what it's worth.:wallbang:

[GR1FAN]

I read a post on Ellet's forum that said that if Springfield goes to the black stripe league they will have no equipment. I also read that the high school coaches favor the black stripe league, so the will get the fields. Is this right? One league gets the fields and the other league gets the equipment? Where do the kids that want to play football figure into all of this? Seems to me that the people in charge, so to speak, should get together and swallow their pride and figure out what's best for the kids! What difference does it make who can p--- farther if the kids don't get to play football? Just my opinion. Take it for what it's worth.:wallbang:


Well first of all you been advocating the black stripe league in the fist place. Adding fuel to the fire so to speak. The director stated he will not give you guys the equipment under any circumstances. Cant you read green prides post and figure it out yourself. You need to step up as a parent and go with our program. We are a proven successful community and the sky is the limit for Green.

[green pride]

Wrong work things out in your community froget all the fighting and talk to each other. We can have a couple of the league reps there to answer any questions or concerns you may have. Bottom line everyone is going to lose if you split leagues you are not big enough sit down with your new director and syfa officials and see if they can get you the thing s you want.

Well first of all you been advocating the black stripe league in the fist place. Adding fuel to the fire so to speak. The director stated he will not give you guys the equipment under any circumstances. Cant you read green prides post and figure it out yourself. You need to step up as a parent and go with our program. We are a proven successful community and the sky is the limit for Green.

[Irish87]

Problem is, I don't know that there is a compromise. The High School wants unlimited weight, because they feel it benefits them more, in the future. They are also demanding all 7th and 8th graders play Middle School. If that happens, obviously there would be no more SSYF.

[green pride]

Last time I checked the High School is not your boss. If they atempt to take your field away there will be such a uproar they will never recover. The High School as in our situation is not your boss for a reason they do not have the best interest of the kids. Things will change to what most people want but dont let these people threten you. We fought the mayor, Ad, Parks dept and still won out because it was the right thing. If you want to stay in the SYFA league you need to fight for your kids because if you dont your community will suffer. Your Director will not lose the fight he has some very powerfull people( the same people that helped us in his corner) these people will not be intimidated. Irish personal message me and we can discuss this because I think you are the type of person SYF needs. Problem is, I don't know that there is a compromise. The High School wants unlimited weight, because they feel it benefits them more, in the future. They are also demanding all 7th and 8th graders play Middle School. If that happens, obviously there would be no more SSYF.

[Buckeye29]

Well first of all you been advocating the black stripe league in the fist place. Adding fuel to the fire so to speak. The director stated he will not give you guys the equipment under any circumstances. Cant you read green prides post and figure it out yourself. You need to step up as a parent and go with our program. We are a proven successful community and the sky is the limit for Green.

First off, I am not an advocate for either league!!! I think they both have their good points and they both have their bad points. I am, on the other, hand an advocate for letting ever single kid that wants to play football, play football, regardless of how much they weigh. If I'm a bad person for thinking that ever kid should get a chance then I'll live with that! I don't care if it's with SYF or black stripe, just so they're not excluded anymore! We have enough 260lb. tuba players already. You're the kind of person who is going to ruin it for all the kids. Your way is right and every one else is wrong. Do I have it right? Compromise for the kids!!!! Make something work!!!! Oh yeah, and maybe Green should worry about Green and let Springfield worry about Springfield!!!:mad:

[Buckeye29]

Hey GR1FAN, one question for you. Why are you so intimidated by Springfield and a no weight limit league?

[Smashmouth#1]

First off, I am not an advocate for either league!!! I think they both have their good points and they both have their bad points. I am, on the other, hand an advocate for letting ever single kid that wants to play football, play football, regardless of how much they weigh. If I'm a bad person for thinking that ever kid should get a chance then I'll live with that! I don't care if it's with SYF or black stripe, just so they're not excluded anymore! We have enough 260lb. tuba players already. You're the kind of person who is going to ruin it for all the kids. Your way is right and every one else is wrong. Do I have it right? Compromise for the kids!!!! Make something work!!!! Oh yeah, and maybe Green should worry about Green and let Springfield worry about Springfield!!!:mad:

All too often I hear someone say "do it for the kids"....or read that someone has posted that.....but they really dont mean it........I, personally, think that you, Buckeye 29, are just here to stir the pot. I really do wonder if you are in it for the kids............I know that I am, I've proven that over and over again.........bottom line, don't use them as a defense if you don't mean it.

Secondly, you need to care about whether it's SYF or black stripe, apathy is what got us into World War 2, and the War on Terror. I have my opinion.......the bottom line is, why not try and help to resolve this issue and avoid a split in your community.

Thirdly, Green has a definite interest in what Springfield does, on both sides here actually. That's why there are people here involved. We have been through this before and don't wish to see another community go through the same type of situation. If you don't like what what some people have to say, then don't read it.

[brownandorange]

First off, I am not an advocate for either league!!! I think they both have their good points and they both have their bad points. I am, on the other, hand an advocate for letting ever single kid that wants to play football, play football, regardless of how much they weigh. If I'm a bad person for thinking that ever kid should get a chance then I'll live with that! I don't care if it's with SYF or black stripe, just so they're not excluded anymore! We have enough 260lb. tuba players already. You're the kind of person who is going to ruin it for all the kids. Your way is right and every one else is wrong. Do I have it right? Compromise for the kids!!!! Make something work!!!! Oh yeah, and maybe Green should worry about Green and let Springfield worry about Springfield!!!:mad:

Ditto for Ellet

[GR1FAN]

Hey GR1FAN, one question for you. Why are you so intimidated by Springfield and a no weight limit league?

I have read your post, one minute your in cuyahoga falls and the next your in field. NOW your in Springfield's. What gives? I thought your kids were small and are in the right league. Bring something to the table that is credible, not flip flopping all over the important issues at hand. Either your for or against what we are fighting for. I believe you are being persuade by ignorance. These guys GRpride86, polster,ellet32, 1965 and cia are bringing Springfield down. Reality check for all you all, Green syfl is a great organization that will not disappear, You guys and girls will be crawling back to us and the door will be locked. NO, Happy Holidays to you.

[GRPride86]

These guys GRpride86, polster,ellet32, 1965 and cia are bringing Springfield down. Reality check for all you all, Green syfl is a great organization that will not disappear

First of all, I have said nothing bad about either organization, unlike you. I don't know that much about the BYF and have made no recommendations either way. I think the SYFA is a good league that needs to look into a few changes when it comes to weight and age. We keep being told that these changes are in the works and we shall see over time if they will be implemented. The only other one I can speak for is the polster, and if you really read his posts, he's not bringing anybody down.

[Smashmouth#1]

Ditto for Ellet

Why so noone pays attention to where your kids live?

[Smashmouth#1]

First of all, I have said nothing bad about either organization, unlike you. I don't know that much about the BYF and have made no recommendations either way. I think the SYFA is a good league that needs to look into a few changes when it comes to weight and age. We keep being told that these changes are in the works and we shall see over time if they will be implemented. The only other one I can speak for is the polster, and if you really read his posts, he's not bringing anybody down.

Get serious. He's drank the Kool-Aid and full fledged. As for you personally, you do stir the pot a bit.

[GRPride86]

As for you personally, you do stir the pot a bit.

Maybe a little bit, :stirthepot:

but I can't help it, some people on here have huge buttons that are so easy to push.

http://www.seeya-downtheroad.com/ShortStories/EasyButton.jpg

[brownandorange]

Why so noone pays attention to where your kids live?

Ya, breaking news. We landed Chris Wells for next year. We talked him into quitting OSU, had Bobby Sax release him from Garfield just to cover out butts. We're going to weigh him on Tallmadge's scales and use Green's age requirements. Sounds like it's a done deal.

[Irish87]

^^^:Ohno:

[GR1FAN]

^^^:Ohno:

hahahahahahahahahhaahahaha:confused:

[GRPride86]

Ya, breaking news. We landed Chris Wells for next year. We talked him into quitting OSU, had Bobby Sax release him from Garfield just to cover out butts. We're going to weigh him on Tallmadge's scales and use Green's age requirements. Sounds like it's a done deal.

Could be the best post over the past 2 months!!

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[Irish87]

Could be the best post over the past 2 months!!

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

My vote's for stupidest post over the past 2 months.

[GRPride86]

Are you kidding,

If you look into that post you can see three things that people have had complaints about. Oh well.

[GR1FAN]

Are you kidding,

If you look into that post you can see three things that people have had complaints about. Oh well.

Both you guys complain to much. This is about us as a community working problems out. We can still help your community in allot of ways. Green does promote the best sportsmanship qualities. We should hold a meeting for any Springfield people who want change. Maybe change is not what you want at syfl it could be your life. Go to counseling and hash your differences there. Not here! I am willing to help your director out with the following; leadership skills, bringing your community back together as one. My time is very valuable but I am willing to share the responsibilities. Go to church and find a solution to what life has in store for your future. Stop fighting, your only tearing your community apart what you have left of it.

[Irish87]

Are you going to send me a Bill, for this session?

[Smashmouth#1]

My vote's for stupidest post over the past 2 months.

I would have to agree,

Although Sax would probably sell out a player to get ahead, any true Garfield football player would NEVER EVER lower their standards enough to wear an Ellet uniform. They would rather go to East or Kenmore.

[GR1FAN]

I would have to agree,

Although Sax would probably sell out a player to get ahead, any true Garfield football player would NEVER EVER lower their standards enough to wear an Ellet uniform. They would rather go to East or Kenmore.

well put.

[brownandorange]

Now let's rip Garfield too because they kicked your a_ _s three out of four years. Let's rip Bobby Sax. Anybody that beats Green is a sellout, cheater or whatever else you come up with. What a bunch of childish loosers. Get a life.

[GRPride86]

We should hold a meeting for any Springfield people who want change.

This has already been suggested and a couple of posters from Green shot it down.

The SYFA needs to be tweeked a little and that would help all communities involved. That has been said from the beginning. Things haven't been happening fast enough for some people, so they are looking in other directions.

(I can't see it, but I'm sure you'll find a complaint in there somewhere)

[Smashmouth#1]

This has already been suggested and a couple of posters from Green shot it down.

The SYFA needs to be tweeked a little and that would help all communities involved. That has been said from the beginning. Things haven't been happening fast enough for some people, so they are looking in other directions.

(I can't see it, but I'm sure you'll find a complaint in there somewhere)

Holy Judas, I don't remember anything about meetings being suggested with Springfield, and really don't think that "Green People" shot it down.
You did make reference to an "emergency" meeting with the SYFL board members, but that was it.....they didn't do that because their was already a meeting scheduled very soon after that.

[Smashmouth#1]

Now let's rip Garfield too because they kicked your a_ _s three out of four years. Let's rip Bobby Sax. Anybody that beats Green is a sellout, cheater or whatever else you come up with. What a bunch of childish loosers. Get a life.

Firtst off, I didnt rip on Garfield. Secondly, great they beat Green 3 out of the 4 years......since I am an alum, I don't have a problem with that. I was glad to see them win.......And yes, I will rip Bob Sax.......I know him personally and what type of guy he is.....or was.....I have an issue there.......
Actually, anyone that beats Green, obviously did a good job, because, We bring it on the field. I'm not speaking of the High School here, I am speaking of the Youth Program just so you don't make another lousy assumption....
The fact remains that we smoked you this year at your field, Tuesday C-team smoked both of your C-teams at the Rubber Bowl.....and you had illegal players on your roster with falsified addresses. Those are all facts. You can't deal with the truth, that's obvious.

[GRPride86]

Holy Judas, I don't remember anything about meetings being suggested with Springfield, and really don't think that "Green People" shot it down.
You did make reference to an "emergency" meeting with the SYFL board members, but that was it.....they didn't do that because their was already a meeting scheduled very soon after that.


That's what I was talking about. Have we heard what kind of changes are being thrown around. I know they can't make any changes to the constitution until January, but if those meetings are like other organizations, you talk about changes and discuss them, maybe table the subject and vote on them at the next meeting.

I also was talking about the "emergency" meeting being shot down by green pride. If I remember correctly, there was no mention of a meeting that was scheduled soon, just we aren't in trouble and we don't need an "emergency" meeting.

So, has there been any type of changes writen down that are going to be discussed or have been discussed in a "directors" meeting?

[CIA]

I have read your post, one minute your in cuyahoga falls and the next your in field. NOW your in Springfield's. What gives? I thought your kids were small and are in the right league. Bring something to the table that is credible, not flip flopping all over the important issues at hand. Either your for or against what we are fighting for. I believe you are being persuade by ignorance. These guys GRpride86, polster,ellet32, 1965 and cia are bringing Springfield down. Reality check for all you all, Green syfl is a great organization that will not disappear, You guys and girls will be crawling back to us and the door will be locked. NO, Happy Holidays to you. ok i am going to take a stab here. i believe you are from green. first of all i live in springfield, you live in green, you don't know me, i don't know you. i don't give a rats a-- what happens in green. i care about springfield. go to your side of yappi and see if i posted over there. you will see i haven't. the only thing i can think of why you are over here is because you have ties in the ssyf, and are buddies with these people, and for some reason you feel you have to stick your big nose in over here to save your buddies. i think that the people who are complaining know a little more than you. all you are doing is commenting on what the ssyf director tells you. i am for the black stripe league because everybody gets to play, and i am not for ssyf because the leadership. they have ran into the ground. it wasn't because of the weight issue. people were well ticked off 3yrs ago. and if you chat with some of the past coaches, who coached for springfield, they will tell the same thing that i have and what you call complainers the same thing. by the way these ex coaches were pretty darn good ones. and let me ask you this. why did one of our coaches jump ship and go over there? was it because it was a good system? i bet he wont tell the truth, and what he told people two yrs ago. my best advise is keep nose on your side of the line, because i don't care about green.

[Smashmouth#1]

ok i am going to take a stab here. i believe you are from green. first of all i live in springfield, you live in green, you don't know me, i don't know you. i don't give a rats a-- what happens in green. i care about springfield. go to your side of yappi and see if i posted over there. you will see i haven't. the only thing i can think of why you are over here is because you have ties in the ssyf, and are buddies with these people, and for some reason you feel you have to stick your big nose in over here to save your buddies. i think that the people who are complaining know a little more than you. all you are doing is commenting on what the ssyf director tells you. i am for the black stripe league because everybody gets to play, and i am not for ssyf because the leadership. they have ran into the ground. it wasn't because of the weight issue. people were well ticked off 3yrs ago. and if you chat with some of the past coaches, who coached for springfield, they will tell the same thing that i have and what you call complainers the same thing. by the way these ex coaches were pretty darn good ones. and let me ask you this. why did one of our coaches jump ship and go over there? was it because it was a good system? i bet he wont tell the truth, and what he told people two yrs ago. my best advise is keep nose on your side of the line, because i don't care about green.

First off, which coach are you talking about? I know of one, and I know why HE left.....checking to see if it's the same one.
As far as the people complaining here, it seems that's what they do best, complain....... You say that you arent for SSYF because of the leadership, um excuse me, Didn't you just get a new Director? And if it's the SYFL leadership, there are new people there too......Your leadership excuse doesn't hold water here........
Successful people recognize problems, and find solutions.......
Unsuccessful people recognize problems, and find more people to help complain.
BYF is not a solution, it's the crack in the dam.
Being positive is also a trademark of a successful person....................... Deal with the issues, Don't attack someone because you disagree with their arguements.
If you don't like the Green peoples posts..........don't read them........it's really that simple.

[CIA]

First off, which coach are you talking about? I know of one, and I know why HE left.....checking to see if it's the same one.
As far as the people complaining here, it seems that's what they do best, complain....... You say that you arent for SSYF because of the leadership, um excuse me, Didn't you just get a new Director? And if it's the SYFL leadership, there are new people there too......Your leadership excuse doesn't hold water here........
Successful people recognize problems, and find solutions.......
Unsuccessful people recognize problems, and find more people to help complain.
BYF is not a solution, it's the crack in the dam.
Being positive is also a trademark of a successful person....................... Deal with the issues, Don't attack someone because you disagree with their arguements.
If you don't like the Green peoples posts..........don't read them........it's really that simple.well you have all the answers, you figure out who he is and get back to me, you are on my time now. you answer to me over here. i will tell this if the new director solves any problems i will buy you a case of beer. see what you fail to under stand is we the people who have been at that field for yrs now know the real deal. not what some one tells you at a meeting.

[CIA]

oh yah plug your own crack in the dam.

[Smashmouth#1]

well you have all the answers, you figure out who he is and get back to me, you are on my time now. you answer to me over here. i will tell this if the new director solves any problems i will buy you a case of beer. see what you fail to under stand is we the people who have been at that field for yrs now know the real deal. not what some one tells you at a meeting.

oh yah plug your own crack in the dam.

Not dealing with issues, dont answer simple questions, half-hearted attempts at attacking people. Point Proven.

Actually, I really didn't get a whole lot of info from anyone from a meeting so dont make assumptions there buddy. I am at the field everyday, oh wait, that's Greens field. And when I'm there, if there are problems, they get solved. I'm not the only problem solver, just one of many. We don't just stand around and talk about how horrible it is, and go and get confirmation from others, we improvise, adapt, and overcome.

[CIA]

Not dealing with issues, dont answer simple questions, half-hearted attempts at attacking people. Point Proven.

Actually, I really didn't get a whole lot of info from anyone from a meeting so dont make assumptions there buddy. I am at the field everyday, oh wait, that's Greens field. And when I'm there, if there are problems, they get solved. I'm not the only problem solver, just one of many. We don't just stand around and talk about how horrible it is, and go and get confirmation from others, we improvise, adapt, and overcome. see you fail to understand i don't owe you anything, and see you seem like a person who has to have total control. like a dictator. i believe someone from your side," notice i said your side" made the comment there is a dictator ship over there. listen buddy you brought me out, you made the comment about me and a few others, you drew first blood. you stuck your nose were it don't belong.

[Smashmouth#1]

see you fail to understand i don't owe you anything, and see you seem like a person who has to have total control. like a dictator. i believe someone from your side," notice i said your side" made the comment there is a dictator ship over there. listen buddy you brought me out, you made the comment about me and a few others, you drew first blood. you stuck your nose were it don't belong.

Actually, I never said that you owed me anything, and then you start in with personal attacks instead of dealing with issues. Point Proven yet again. There are also factual inaccuracies in your comments. Check the posts, I didn't make any comment about you or a few others. And, for the record, I didn't bring you anywhere, you made a conscious decision to post on here. Green has a vested interest in what Springfield does therefore, I'm not dipping in on anyones business.

[CIA]

you didnt make the comment me, polster, and a few others were bringing springfield down? i think you better go back and read. that's why you and me are up, @ the wee hours in the morning typing back and forth. check it you will see your inaccuracies.

[Smashmouth#1]

Show me where I did. That wasn't me. Check your own innaccuracies, and realize who you are responding to when you respond. It's back on page one of this thread.

[CIA]

why are you anwering for someone else? how many screen names do you have? i believe i am talking to same person. see you all are buddies and sticking up for each other. and if not why would you be so concerned about what is written to someone else, sounds fishy to me. i bet its you all along. i kinda though thats what it was.

[Smashmouth#1]

I have read your post, one minute your in cuyahoga falls and the next your in field. NOW your in Springfield's. What gives? I thought your kids were small and are in the right league. Bring something to the table that is credible, not flip flopping all over the important issues at hand. Either your for or against what we are fighting for. I believe you are being persuade by ignorance. These guys GRpride86, polster,ellet32, 1965 and cia are bringing Springfield down. Reality check for all you all, Green syfl is a great organization that will not disappear, You guys and girls will be crawling back to us and the door will be locked. NO, Happy Holidays to you.

Here, I even did your work for you.

[Smashmouth#1]

why are you anwering for someone else? how many screen names do you have? i believe i am talking to same person. see you all are buddies and sticking up for each other. and if not why would you be so concerned about what is written to someone else, sounds fishy to me. i bet its you all along. i kinda though thats what it was.

I am merely correcting your inaccuracies. I only have the one screen name. Trying to fool people with more than one screen name is deceitful. You contradict yourself within the first 3 sentences. What do you really believe? Oh wait, you don't owe me anything right? Actually, I don't even know who GR1Fan is. And now another personal attack, attempting to bring my character into question. That won't happen.

[CIA]

man you should run for president, or wait be god. like i said, i cant understand why you care so much about our twp?

[Smashmouth#1]

I dont need to say anything else, you just keep proving my point with every post.

I answered that question already.

[Smashmouth#1]

What the he-- could have been on a different post.
Green has a vested interest in what Springfield does, on either side.

[GR1FAN]

you didnt make the comment me, polster, and a few others were bringing springfield down? i think you better go back and read. that's why you and me are up, @ the wee hours in the morning typing back and forth. check it you will see your inaccuracies.


We are not here to start trouble. Only because the new director needs us to convince you people of Springfield a better way to go. Just because he doesn't live in Springfield,he doesn't care for your community. From what I understand he is very committed and dont understand why he is being attacked. Greens tradition is simple, play hard and win at all cost. We as a community have taken on the same problems you guys are right now. Allot of name calling and dividing of friendships. I know my post earlier have been directed towards don, It just brought up the past that went bad. I have read allot of post here, and maybe its not the people, its the administration at the High School. I can get into personal things on here but I have a strong feeling your new director will prevail on this one. Just because your high school wants the byf doesn't mean we have to kneel down and kiss there feet. whatever

[CIA]

what you and a few other people, who are going to bat for the new director fail to understand, we , when i say we, i mean the people who have been going to that field. for 7-8 yrs now. follow me? ok now when the director was a c team head coach, he was real green on the knowledge of football. he has learned a little, but he is not head coach material. some how some way, just like a few other people in this program got a head coaching position over people who knew football. ok you still following? how in the world do you think this guy got the job? it scares me this guy is going to be a director. you guys have no clue. they have ran off good people who have been there to support, donate their time. so don't give me that crap about no support. the new director needs to listen to springfield people not green people. so maybe now its maybe more clear on why its hard to swallow someone from another community telling people who live in the twp how to feel and whats right. you guys come down to schrop and sit for as long as some of the other people have, you my friend will know what is going then! we the people want change, you over there sticking your nose where it don't belong is not change. like i told mouth don't take it personal, just butt out!

[CIA]

We are not here to start trouble. Only because the new director needs us to convince you people of Springfield a better way to go. Just because he doesn't live in Springfield,he doesn't care for your community. From what I understand he is very committed and dont understand why he is being attacked. Greens tradition is simple, play hard and win at all cost. We as a community have taken on the same problems you guys are right now. Allot of name calling and dividing of friendships. I know my post earlier have been directed towards don, It just brought up the past that went bad. I have read allot of post here, and maybe its not the people, its the administration at the High School. I can get into personal things on here but I have a strong feeling your new director will prevail on this one. Just because your high school wants the byf doesn't mean we have to kneel down and kiss there feet. whatever why in the h--- if you have your own problems, would you try to solve other peoples? i sorry guy but that makes me think you think you are a "do gooder". what i mean by that? your door step isn't real clean, but you want people to think its is, and try to tell them how dirty theirs is. and i disagree with you. its not the administration @ the high school. see this is what roasts my raisins, you people over there think you know whats going on and whats good for little ole springfield.

[Smashmouth#1]

you guys come down to schrop and sit for as long as some of the other people have, you my friend will know what is going then! we the people want change, you over there sticking your nose where it don't belong is not change. like i told mouth don't take it personal, just butt out!


Actually, that's part of your problem........you go down and sit at Schrop.....sit there and complain about everything, and dont lift a finger to help.

And I've told you and what YOU "fail to understand" is that Green does have a vested interest in what happens in Springfield.

And if you actually think that I took any of that personal, you are sadly mistaken. I have a pretty thick skin. No namby pamby thin skinned punk in a pink shirt here.
Much like Pavlov's theory, you need to have the same principals apply to you........thats ok, I have patience and perseverance.......If you don't like what the Green people have to say.......just don't read it...........and yes, it really is that simple.....just like the radio and TV analogy that I made earlier in this post.

"we the people want change".........no not all of you......there's a few......I wouldn't call it we the people though.

[CIA]

Actually, that's part of your problem........you go down and sit at Schrop.....sit there and complain about everything, and dont lift a finger to help.

And I've told you and what YOU "fail to understand" is that Green does have a vested interest in what happens in Springfield.

And if you actually think that I took any of that personal, you are sadly mistaken. I have a pretty thick skin. No namby pamby thin skinned punk in a pink shirt here.
Much like Pavlov's theory, you need to have the same principals apply to you........thats ok, I have patience and perseverance.......If you don't like what the Green people have to say.......just don't read it...........and yes, it really is that simple.....just like the radio and TV analogy that I made earlier in this post.dude you are like a cross between a 7yr itch and broken record player. you keep repeating the same thing, but no one listens to you. you must be pretty intimidated to go to our side to save something that you have a personal interest in. i would like to know what vested interest green has, did you donate some money to springfield, or something? it doesn't make sense why you would be so into springfield. you need to back out and buzz off, because you are mind over matter, we don't mind because you don't matter!

[Smashmouth#1]

dude you are like a cross between a 7yr itch and broken record player. you keep repeating the same thing, but no one listens to you. you must be pretty intimidated to go to our side to save something that you have a personal interest in. i would like to know what vested interest green has, did you donate some money to springfield, or something? it doesn't make sense why you would be so into springfield. you need to back out and buzz off, because you are mind over matter, we don't mind because you don't matter!

Hey, thanks for proving my point again..........yet another personal attack.......no wait theres another one....hey if trying to tear someone else down is how you build yourself up, then so be it, thats a sad way to go through life though....Trust me, I dont need validation from you..........and if no one is listening to me, then how come you keep responding? Point proven again, a factual innaccuracy. Wow, hey keep typing, you just make it too easy for me here. It's obvious, at least one person is checking in to see what I have to say. I am not intimidated by anything. You just dont want anyone out here that knows the real deal trying to stop you from coming in and trying to pull a fast one. That's your real issue here.........if I came in here agreeing and saying that BYf was the best thing since sliced bread, then you would be all for that. Since I'm not, you want me to leave..........guess what..........tough.

[Buckeye29]

We are not here to start trouble. Only because the new director needs us to convince you people of Springfield a better way to go. Just because he doesn't live in Springfield,he doesn't care for your community. From what I understand he is very committed and dont understand why he is being attacked. Greens tradition is simple, play hard and win at all cost. We as a community have taken on the same problems you guys are right now. Allot of name calling and dividing of friendships. I know my post earlier have been directed towards don, It just brought up the past that went bad. I have read allot of post here, and maybe its not the people, its the administration at the High School. I can get into personal things on here but I have a strong feeling your new director will prevail on this one. Just because your high school wants the byf doesn't mean we have to kneel down and kiss there feet. whatever

What gets me is everyone keeps saying, "You have a new director" and "Give him a chance to change things for the better" Our new director is our old director's little left hand man! He never disagreed with anything the old director did or said, so why should anyone believe that he will do anything any different? PLUS, he doesn't live in the township??????? He's very committed alright. He's committed to make sure if our township does decide to go in another direction that he is going to make it as hard as he can!!! If he doesn't get his way, he's taking his ball and going home!!!:Ohno:

Maybe, since you guys like and trust him so much, he can come be your new director. As for me flip flopping, I've been saying the same thing in every post, LET THE BIGGER BOYS PLAY!!!!!!!!!!!!! DOESN'T MATTER WHICH LEAGUE!!!!!!!! The only people it matters to are the guys that are afraid they are going to lose their POWER if another league is started. That is sad if you ask me!!!! Also, I am for the kids and the kids only!! I'm not hiding behind that statement. Just how I feel!!!!! I don't care if some adult gets his feelings hurt because he's not in control of things that effect so many other people! The kids are what matter!!!!!! Not the adults!!!!!!

[GRPride86]

One question:

Is the SYFA, and when I say that, I mean every individual organization, Tallmadge, Green, Springfield, Mogadore, etc...., is it supposed to be a feeder system for the high school or is it just a, let's call it a "Rec League" for football?

The reason I ask is because some people in Tallmadge consider Little League a Rec League and others consider it a feeder system.

(I hope this isn't somekind of bizarre complaint, I hope it's just a question)

[thepolster]

One question:

Is the SYFA, and when I say that, I mean every individual organization, Tallmadge, Green, Springfield, Mogadore, etc...., is it supposed to be a feeder system for the high school or is it just a, let's call it a "Rec League" for football?

The reason I ask is because some people in Tallmadge consider Little League a Rec League and others consider it a feeder system.

(I hope this isn't somekind of bizarre complaint, I hope it's just a question)

I would classify syfl a rec league, because it really doesn't feed the middle school or high school with kids that are ready to play with the bigger kids. That in mind my nephew and a few other kids have went up to the High School and played JV ball out of the box. But that's a special circumstance, kids got talent.

On the other hand byf ball doesn't skip a beat. It keeps all kids in the sport and not rejecting a kid because of his size. Example; 2 of my sons could not play for youth. The oldest now plays middle linebacker at our high school but again he could not play varsity ball because of his size. and trust me he did not have a ounce of fat to lose. BYF ball is a true feeder system to our high school, because once again it does not discriminate.

[GRPride86]

Thanks for your response.

[Buckeye29]

I think for any league to be a true feeder system for the high school the high school coaches need to be more involved. It seems like the last few years our high school doesn't seem to think they need a fedder system because they have been very "un-involved" with the youth system. This has not been the fault of SSYF because they've tried to get them involved. I do agree though that all the boys should get to play, not just the ones that can make weight. Do these two things then we'll have a true feeder system for the high school.

[GRPride86]

I agree,

I think that the youth league, no matter which one it is, should be a feeder system to the high school.

If you look, not just locally, but nationally, the "great" high school teams have a "great" youth program. It makes all the sense in the world. If these young kids are working with the same tools and playbook as the high school, how much easier is it when they get to the higher levels? It should be like a refresher course and the high school coach can start working on more specific things instead of the "basic" things.

In my opinion, and that's just what it is, if you do your research and look at teams around the country, "great" football starts at the youth level.

[thepolster]

I think for any league to be a true feeder system for the high school the high school coaches need to be more involved. It seems like the last few years our high school doesn't seem to think they need a feeder system because they have been very "UN-involved" with the youth system. This has not been the fault of SSYF because they've tried to get them involved. I do agree though that all the boys should get to play, not just the ones that can make weight. Do these two things then we'll have a true feeder system for the high school.

29 your missing the point, The high school has stepped in and does want to make a change. The AD informed many of us his intentions of being more involved with the youth and our new middle school coach Doug Whited. The head HS coach has more to deal with up there. He got the ball rolling when he informed Vern he wanted to go to byf. Now if E- E---- wants to ignore the wishes of the high school administration that's his choice. Who knows better? That's the question that you should be asking every parent and yourself. One way or another I will make sure every kid that can put a SPARTAN uniform on will play football. Why keep ignoring the facts, kids are allot bigger and want the same thing other kids want. That is to wear a SPARTAN jersey.

[Ellet_32]

I have read your post, one minute your in cuyahoga falls and the next your in field. NOW your in Springfield's. What gives? I thought your kids were small and are in the right league. Bring something to the table that is credible, not flip flopping all over the important issues at hand. Either your for or against what we are fighting for. I believe you are being persuade by ignorance. These guys GRpride86, polster,ellet32, 1965 and cia are bringing Springfield down. Reality check for all you all, Green syfl is a great organization that will not disappear, You guys and girls will be crawling back to us and the door will be locked. NO, Happy Holidays to you.

I have read all of my post and I have not said anything about bringing Springfield down.

[Smashmouth#1]

I agree,

I think that the youth league, no matter which one it is, should be a feeder system to the high school.

If you look, not just locally, but nationally, the "great" high school teams have a "great" youth program. It makes all the sense in the world. If these young kids are working with the same tools and playbook as the high school, how much easier is it when they get to the higher levels? It should be like a refresher course and the high school coach can start working on more specific things instead of the "basic" things.

In my opinion, and that's just what it is, if you do your research and look at teams around the country, "great" football starts at the youth level.

Ok, just out of sheer curiousity, I looked up leagues in Florida, Cincinnati, Mississippi, Texas and PA, although not Tennesee....some play in the Mississippi league. There is are vast differences in all of the leagues ranging from weights, ages, and other things right down to whether pets are allowed at games. It was quite enlightening. I found one and only one piece of evidence that stated that the youth program was actually a feeder program for the High School. Although I did find it interesting that one had a regulation labelled "recruiting area".....hmmm, na I wont go there.

I was wondering where you came up with your information at the GRPRIDE?

[Smashmouth#1]

I am still investigating things I just thought that you might be able to shed some light here since you posed the question and made the supporting comments.

[Ellet_32]

Although I did find it interesting that one had a regulation labelled "recruiting area".....hmmm, na I wont go there.

Thank you!

[CIA]

I would classify syfl a rec league, because it really doesn't feed the middle school or high school with kids that are ready to play with the bigger kids. That in mind my nephew and a few other kids have went up to the High School and played JV ball out of the box. But that's a special circumstance, kids got talent.

On the other hand byf ball doesn't skip a beat. It keeps all kids in the sport and not rejecting a kid because of his size. Example; 2 of my sons could not play for youth. The oldest now plays middle linebacker at our high school but again he could not play varsity ball because of his size. and trust me he did not have a ounce of fat to lose. BYF ball is a true feeder system to our high school, because once again it does not discriminate.hey larry? i was wondering, is there a schedule for these meetings, and is it open to the public? the reason i ask, i have a considerable amount of parents and people, who would like to see about a petition being started, to keep our director of ssyf, from having to contact green to make decisions, on our children's future of this league. green has stated that they have a vested interest in our community.

[Buckeye29]

29 your missing the point, The high school has stepped in and does want to make a change. The AD informed many of us his intentions of being more involved with the youth and our new middle school coach Doug Whited. The head HS coach has more to deal with up there. He got the ball rolling when he informed Vern he wanted to go to byf. Now if E- E---- wants to ignore the wishes of the high school administration that's his choice. Who knows better? That's the question that you should be asking every parent and yourself. One way or another I will make sure every kid that can put a SPARTAN uniform on will play football. Why keep ignoring the facts, kids are allot bigger and want the same thing other kids want. That is to wear a SPARTAN jersey.

I don't think I'm missing the point, I agree with everything you just said. I just don't care if it's an unlimited SYF league or blackstripe.

[Buckeye29]

I have read all of my post and I have not said anything about bringing Springfield down.

I believe this guy was referring to me in this post.

[Buckeye29]

I don't think I've said anything to bring Springfield down though either!!!!!

[GR1FAN]

hey larry? i was wondering, is there a schedule for these meetings, and is it open to the public? the reason i ask, i have a considerable amount of parents and people, who would like to see about a petition being started, to keep our director of ssyf, from having to contact green to make decisions, on our children's future of this league. green has stated that they have a vested interest in our community.

His mind is already made up. No changing. Not even a bunch of fake petitions would help.

[GRPride86]

Ok, just out of sheer curiousity, I looked up leagues in Florida, Cincinnati, Mississippi, Texas and PA, although not Tennesee....some play in the Mississippi league. There is are vast differences in all of the leagues ranging from weights, ages, and other things right down to whether pets are allowed at games. It was quite enlightening. I found one and only one piece of evidence that stated that the youth program was actually a feeder program for the High School. Although I did find it interesting that one had a regulation labelled "recruiting area".....hmmm, na I wont go there.

I was wondering where you came up with your information at the GRPRIDE?


I know there is a vast difference in a lot of these leagues, thats's why I looked up certain powerhouse schools. Now you really can't look up the private schools like St. X, Elder, well yeh you can because they usually play CYO and I'm pretty sure they let the bigger kids play. But for arguements sake look up Lakeland Florida, 2005 & 2006 National Champions, Hoover Alabama, if I remember right, they only play up to the 7th grade, and West Monroe LA. Or you can stay in our own backyard, with Lake, N. Canton, Massillon.

Like I've said numberous times on here, I'm not advocating one league over the other, there just needs to be a middle ground for all of these kids.

[Smashmouth#1]

One question:

Is the SYFA, and when I say that, I mean every individual organization, Tallmadge, Green, Springfield, Mogadore, etc...., is it supposed to be a feeder system for the high school or is it just a, let's call it a "Rec League" for football?

The reason I ask is because some people in Tallmadge consider Little League a Rec League and others consider it a feeder system.

(I hope this isn't somekind of bizarre complaint, I hope it's just a question)

I know there is a vast difference in a lot of these leagues, thats's why I looked up certain powerhouse schools. Now you really can't look up the private schools like St. X, Elder, well yeh you can because they usually play CYO and I'm pretty sure they let the bigger kids play. But for arguements sake look up Lakeland Florida, 2005 & 2006 National Champions, Hoover Alabama, if I remember right, they only play up to the 7th grade, and West Monroe LA. Or you can stay in our own backyard, with Lake, N. Canton, Massillon.

Like I've said numberous times on here, I'm not advocating one league over the other, there just needs to be a middle ground for all of these kids.

Wait a minute, allowing the bigger kids to play was not the question that you asked. As I stated, people are all over the board on all of the other issues, you specifically were asking about the youth league being a feeder system for the High School. Ok now do you want and answer on the feeder system or bigger kids? It seems that somewhere along the lines the question got changed here.

[Yappi]

I know there is a vast difference in a lot of these leagues, thats's why I looked up certain powerhouse schools. Now you really can't look up the private schools like St. X, Elder, well yeh you can because they usually play CYO and I'm pretty sure they let the bigger kids play. But for arguements sake look up Lakeland Florida, 2005 & 2006 National Champions, Hoover Alabama, if I remember right, they only play up to the 7th grade, and West Monroe LA. Or you can stay in our own backyard, with Lake, N. Canton, Massillon.

Like I've said numberous times on here, I'm not advocating one league over the other, there just needs to be a middle ground for all of these kids.

Let's remember that LaSalle in the Cincinnati Greater Catholic League organized an 8th grade unlimited weight football team (Titans) because they struggled in the GCL. Elder, Moeller, and St Xavier (2007 National Champs) still use the CYO feeder system which does have weight limits. The Titans apparently haven't helped LaSalle to this point and it's been in use for over 5 years.

[GRPride86]

So what both of you are saying is that SYFA is not a feeder system for the respective High Schools, it's just a Rec League and that it makes no sense to try and create it to be a feeder system.

I'll agree with both of you not to make it an unlimited weighted league, put limits on weights but I also think you should put limits on 14 year olds, which are usually 8th graders, limit should be 110 lb. Otherwise you move up to the Middle School or sit out 1 year until 9th grade.

You will never and I mean never convince me that building a strong Middle School program is not a good thing for the high school.

[Yappi]

So what both of you are saying is that SYFA is not a feeder system for the respective High Schools, it's just a Rec League and that it makes no sense to try and create it to be a feeder system.

I'll agree with both of you not to make it an unlimited weighted league, put limits on weights but I also think you should put limits on 14 year olds, which are usually 8th graders, limit should be 110 lb. Otherwise you move up to the Middle School or sit out 1 year until 9th grade.

You will never and I mean never convince me that building a strong Middle School program is not a good thing for the high school.

I definitely think it's a feeder system for the high school but it's also a rec league. That's why I've been a proponent of getting the most possible people playing the game. If that means limiting the weight at the lower ages, which I believe enocurages participation, then that is what they should do. Your idea for limiting weights at the 8th grade level has some merit but it also might drive some other districts out of the program that don't have middle school teams. It's a tough decision to make unless all the teams in the league are on-board with it.

[Smashmouth#1]

Wait a minute, allowing the bigger kids to play was not the question that you asked. As I stated, people are all over the board on all of the other issues, you specifically were asking about the youth league being a feeder system for the High School. Ok now do you want and answer on the feeder system or bigger kids? It seems that somewhere along the lines the question got changed here.

So what both of you are saying is that SYFA is not a feeder system for the respective High Schools, it's just a Rec League and that it makes no sense to try and create it to be a feeder system.

I'll agree with both of you not to make it an unlimited weighted league, put limits on weights but I also think you should put limits on 14 year olds, which are usually 8th graders, limit should be 110 lb. Otherwise you move up to the Middle School or sit out 1 year until 9th grade.

You will never and I mean never convince me that building a strong Middle School program is not a good thing for the high school.

No, that's not what I was saying at all. I was asking you for clarification because it seemed that you were attempting to change the point from rec league vs. feeder system to allowing the big boys to play.
I was talking to a guy at St. X and he stated that the HS isnt involved with the youth league. They dont need to be.

[Smashmouth#1]

Now is SYFL a feeder system? I would have to agree with Yappi, yes and no.

Does the High School need to be involved to make it a "great" program?
NO. and here is why I say that.

Granted HS teams tend to have similar offensive and defensive packages year in and year out, but any good coach will gear his team towards the talent that he has. Would you have an option style offense with a quarterback who is very intellegent and could throw the ball a mile and be very accurate, but he's not very quick....say a Bernie Kosar for example. What happens when there is a coaching change and/or offensive systems or defensive systems are changed? As a High School coach do I want these kids to see the same plays and systems run at them for 6 or 8 years so they can perfect their attacks against them or do I want to leave some elements of surprise? As a HS coach do I want to open yourself and your assisstants up the very realistic issue of the political firestorm that youth football has? If the HS system really isn't working, then why would you expand it to the youth?

By teaching these kids the basic rules and techniques we give them a useful tool to succeed at the next level if they choose to pursue that route. If not, so be it, they had a wonderful experience playing youth football. It also saves the High School coaches time by not having to teach fundamentals, just refine them. It is also is beneficial for kids to learn more than one offensive or defensive system by broadening their knowledge base.

We, at least in Green, and I would assume with all organizations as well, teach the kids the basic fundamentals
Proper Blocking Techniques, Good Tackling form, Who to block in different defensive alignments, where to go in a cover 2, who Mike, Will, and Sam are on defense, possibly Fred too.....what to do to be successful at nosetackle or defensive end, and what to look for......How not to look or point directly at the hole that you are going to, the benefits of a good fake handoff and where to put the ball so the defense wont see it and so on and so on and so on...................
When these kids reach middle school they should have a vast amount of knowledge already.....therefore it is a feeder system........

For the kids that go up through the system and don't decide to play HS ball .......then we taught them some valuable lessons about the game that, at some point, they will figure out applies in other places too. We filled their free time with happy, wonderful experiences so they didn't "find" something else to do.......many times those arent positive things either.......We allowed them to go out and meet new friends and form friendships that they possibly, at least in a system as big as Green, would not have otherwise made, we also allow them to build confidence in themselves that helps them in all areas of life.

Thus, this is another reason why having 2 leagues in one community is a bad thing.............you could also make the same arguement for Travel Teams and all that, but I won't delve into that....we can stick with football.

When dealing with Youth Football, first and foremost, the kids come first, and what works for them and makes them successful. What the HS coaches want comes secondary to what's best for the kids. Should their requests and responses be taken under careful advisement? Absolutely.....but the kids still come first.

All to often parents egos, and longings for their child to be the superstar, and the sweet taste of victory, and several political motives are all propelled to the forefront of our decisions and actions.........and if all that is out front......then what gets left behind? You guessed it, the kids.

Ok, so my answer is complex, thats ok......I know what the main priority is.

[green1965champs]

Now is SYFL a feeder system? I would have to agree with Yappi, yes and no.

Does the High School need to be involved to make it a "great" program?
NO. and here is why I say that.

Granted HS teams tend to have similar offensive and defensive packages year in and year out, but any good coach will gear his team towards the talent that he has. Would you have an option style offense with a quarterback who is very intellegent and could throw the ball a mile and be very accurate, but he's not very quick....say a Bernie Kosar for example. What happens when there is a coaching change and/or offensive systems or defensive systems are changed? As a High School coach do I want these kids to see the same plays and systems run at them for 6 or 8 years so they can perfect their attacks against them or do I want to leave some elements of surprise? As a HS coach do I want to open yourself and your assisstants up the very realistic issue of the political firestorm that youth football has? If the HS system really isn't working, then why would you expand it to the youth?

By teaching these kids the basic rules and techniques we give them a useful tool to succeed at the next level if they choose to pursue that route. If not, so be it, they had a wonderful experience playing youth football. It also saves the High School coaches time by not having to teach fundamentals, just refine them. It is also is beneficial for kids to learn more than one offensive or defensive system by broadening their knowledge base.

We, at least in Green, and I would assume with all organizations as well, teach the kids the basic fundamentals
Proper Blocking Techniques, Good Tackling form, Who to block in different defensive alignments, where to go in a cover 2, who Mike, Will, and Sam are on defense, possibly Fred too.....what to do to be successful at nosetackle or defensive end, and what to look for......How not to look or point directly at the hole that you are going to, the benefits of a good fake handoff and where to put the ball so the defense wont see it and so on and so on and so on...................
When these kids reach middle school they should have a vast amount of knowledge already.....therefore it is a feeder system........

For the kids that go up through the system and don't decide to play HS ball .......then we taught them some valuable lessons about the game that, at some point, they will figure out applies in other places too. We filled their free time with happy, wonderful experiences so they didn't "find" something else to do.......many times those arent positive things either.......We allowed them to go out and meet new friends and form friendships that they possibly, at least in a system as big as Green, would not have otherwise made, we also allow them to build confidence in themselves that helps them in all areas of life.

Thus, this is another reason why having 2 leagues in one community is a bad thing.............you could also make the same arguement for Travel Teams and all that, but I won't delve into that....we can stick with football.

When dealing with Youth Football, first and foremost, the kids come first, and what works for them and makes them successful. What the HS coaches want comes secondary to what's best for the kids. Should their requests and responses be taken under careful advisement? Absolutely.....but the kids still come first.

All to often parents egos, and longings for their child to be the superstar, and the sweet taste of victory, and several political motives are all propelled to the forefront of our decisions and actions.........and if all that is out front......then what gets left behind? You guessed it, the kids.

Ok, so my answer is complex, thats ok......I know what the main priority is.

Why is it that city teams can come in and murder suburban teams? Do they have weight restrictions when it comes to there youth? Did your spellcheck stop working?

[Smashmouth#1]

Why is it that city teams can come in and murder suburban teams? Do they have weight restrictions when it comes to there youth? Did your spellcheck stop working?

First off, every team came in a murdered Springlied......Garfield beat Green this year, they didn't kill them....the game went into overtime and could have gone either way............I do recall a game this year as well.....Um I think that would be Tallmadge versus Firestone and I believe Tallmadge won there genius.

The weight thing isn't the issue here..............was not the question....figure it out on your own...........why would I give anymore info to a "recruiter" than I had too.

[GRPride86]

I don't know what the weight limits are, but I'm pretty sure the City youth teams have one. Kenmore was looking to get into the SYFA a couple of years ago, so I'm pretty sure they have one.

And Tallmadge destroyed the City Series Champions this year........TWICE!

[Smashmouth#1]

Did your spellcheck stop working?

No, normally, I don't need it...............obviously you missed my entire point, but I don't think it was due to 3 typos.

[brownandorange]

First off, every team came in a murdered Springlied......Garfield beat Green this year, they didn't kill them....the game went into overtime and could have gone either way............I do recall a game this year as well.....Um I think that would be Tallmadge versus Firestone and I believe Tallmadge won there genius.

The weight thing isn't the issue here..............was not the question....figure it out on your own...........why would I give anymore info to a "recruiter" than I had too.

"every team came in a murdered Springfield"? Not only spell check you need some english lessons. Pride is asking a legitimate question, why do you attack him? You sound immature and very insecure.

[Smashmouth#1]

a should read and..........ok typo.......you got me darn........


Get your stuff straight........I answered prides question........It was a response to 1965..........

Actually, I didn't attack him.....he was off topic, and I was using the same title that he gave himself, I beleive it was on the Falls Forum.......
The last comment isn't worth anymore time than it takes to type this sentence.

[Smashmouth#1]

See you both prove my point again..........dont answer questions, make personal attacks on people, and not dealing with issues..........as I stated the other night to someone else.

[Irish87]

well you have all the answers, you figure out who he is and get back to me, you are on my time now. you answer to me over here. i will tell this if the new director solves any problems i will buy you a case of beer. see what you fail to under stand is we the people who have been at that field for yrs now know the real deal. not what some one tells you at a meeting.

CIA,
you and I have PM'd each other in the past, and I know you are not happy with the way SSYF was run, but could you be more specific as to what you would like changed? I'm not looking for examples of what went wrong last year, simply suggestions on what you think needs changed with our Organization.

I don't want this to turn into a bashing of one person or another, just examples of what you would do, if you were Director.

[thepolster]

hey larry? i was wondering, is there a schedule for these meetings, and is it open to the public? the reason i ask, i have a considerable amount of parents and people, who would like to see about a petition being started, to keep our director of ssyf, from having to contact green to make decisions, on our children's future of this league. green has stated that they have a vested interest in our community.

Well its a free country and Ed can be courted by whomever he wants. If you feel your being cheated out of your dedication then call Ed and tell him. Ed already knows where I stand and the High School administration. People want to cry about the high school not being involved and now they are and now there PO~d that they have stepped in. Its a no win situation for both parties. I've been at the youth for 6yrs now and I have seen everything, you name it. I haven't been on the sidelines either, I have done more than extra to help syf. And pretty much everyone on here has did something extra for our community. Whatever happens to the syf or the byf I will still keep helping, and you should to. Its pretty crappy how you can tell someone he cant coach when he was coaching here years before you came here. Oh yea did I forget to mention he was at every practice and didn't miss one, but you missed several.

[The real Spartan.]

All too often I hear someone say "do it for the kids"....or read that someone has posted that.....but they really dont mean it........I, personally, think that you, Buckeye 29, are just here to stir the pot. I really do wonder if you are in it for the kids............I know that I am, I've proven that over and over again.........bottom line, don't use them as a defense if you don't mean it.

Secondly, you need to care about whether it's SYF or black stripe, apathy is what got us into World War 2, and the War on Terror. I have my opinion.......the bottom line is, why not try and help to resolve this issue and avoid a split in your community.

Thirdly, Green has a definite interest in what Springfield does, on both sides here actually. That's why there are people here involved. We have been through this before and don't wish to see another community go through the same type of situation. If you don't like what what some people have to say, then don't read it. i think you and gr1fan are off base about 29. i know him personally, and has been a coach for ssyf. he knows football. he is a stand up guy. for me to think he would say that and not mean it, is way off.

[GR1FAN]

i think you and gr1fan are off base about 29. i know him personally, and has been a coach for ssyf. he knows football. he is a stand up guy. for me to think he would say that and not mean it, is way off.

Pick a side.

[GR1FAN]

Pick a side.

Let me get something straight. If byf seeks a home in springfield you do not have to have a release to play for us. If you want to go to mogadoortucky go ahead. But we have been proven to be the team to beat year after year. Oh yea it takes money to build a rec center which a levy cant even get passed let alone build a new rec center.

[The real Spartan.]

Pick a side. i wish i knew what you meant by that. care to elaborate?

[thepolster]

Let me get something straight. If byf seeks a home in springfield you do not have to have a release to play for us. If you want to go to mogadoortucky go ahead. But we have been proven to be the team to beat year after year. Oh yea it takes money to build a rec center which a levy cant even get passed let alone build a new rec center.

Lets set up a meeting. I will hear you out completely. PM me and we can hook up, and see how we can resolve any issue you may have.

[GR1FAN]

Lets set up a meeting. I will hear you out completely. PM me and we can hook up, and see how we can resolve any issue you may have.


Why?

[Omni-Spartan]

Let me get something straight. If byf seeks a home in springfield you do not have to have a release to play for us. If you want to go to mogadoortucky go ahead. But we have been proven to be the team to beat year after year. Oh yea it takes money to build a rec center which a levy cant even get passed let alone build a new rec center.:mad: well are we not a condisending one GR1FAN.twp government and school systems are 2 different things go play on your own forum your to good to grace us with your snide remarks!!:wallbang:

[Smashmouth#1]

Our town may be small but we have more pride than Green does any given day. The village you call "mogadoretucky" is the strongest football town in a 5 mile radius. We don't need scabs. Me personally think its great they got rid of the control freeks over there. Can Mogadore get our own forum please?

don't take one person's view as that of the community. Mogadore is a good place, nice small town. They have a great, tight knit community and a competitive team, and a very nice facility. I'm glad that Green falls out of your 5 mile radius though!!!! j/k As far as "scabs" go, I want to be sure that I follow, so could you elaborate there. I think that you mean kids from other districts but want to be sure.

[Smashmouth#1]

Don't bring us into your bidding war. I read all of your propaganda. You and Tallmage can have all the kids, have a draft day in swampland.

Since you are a very connected person maybe you can get a mogadore forum for us small townees.

Wow, that's quite unique. Who said anything about a bidding war? Propaganda.....really. And if you have read all of MY stuff, you must have been reading for hours. What I can't understand is what is your beef?
I've got a thought here, but I'm gonna hold it for right now and give you the benefit of the doubt and the chance to actually explain what's going on in your view. I'm not sure on what you mean by the swampland comment, why don't you elaborate there.

I'm connected here huh? I'm simply a guy from Green who posts on this site. I have never had anything negative to say about Mogadore; your anger seems misdirected here. If you would like a Mogadore forum my suggestion to you would be to contact Yappi and see about setting one up.

[Smashmouth#1]

Maybe I haven't read most of your stuff but here on Springfields forum you come at me as the leader.
My comment about the swampland is what it is. I was always told Springfield was built on a swamp.
And the last thing is I would rather coach kids that would be going to Mogadores high school then giving a starting position over a resident of mogadore. We don't need the problem. You can get into that whole every kid needs a place to play thing ,but not at the cost of taking playing time from my kids.
Sorry if I came off crazy.

The leader of What? I'm not exactly sure that I follow you there, but ok I'll bite. If Springfield is built on a swamp, so be it, I guess I appreciate the background, but that has nothing to do with it.
As far as coaching the kids goes, that's your perogotive. I don't quite see it that way. It obvious that you read my "conversation" with GRPride on the Tallmadge forum, so you know where I stand. We don't have to agree.
You don't come off as crazy, by any means, you seem to me, rather adamant about your opinion and we have all been there...it just shows that you give a darn.

[Yappi]

WILDCAT4EVER - I think you took the discussion about out-of-district players the wrong way. It was a hypothetical question that dealt with the kids that will likely be looking to play in new districts next fall when the team(s) change leagues to Buckeye Youth Football.

The same question can be asked of Mogadore, what is your policy for kids from neighboring districts playing in your youth program? Is it allowed? If it is, how will you handle the upcoming season if a few players transfer in on one team?

[Smashmouth#1]

We just got out of a very embarrassing jam a few years back.

care to elaborate?


seperate topic:
leader of what?

[wildcat62]

I don't know of any "embarrasing situation" that we were in , and I've been involved for 20 yrs. And to my fellow Mogadorian , remember we must have a little thicker skin than to be offended by a term such as "Mogatucky" or whatever it was.

[spartanmom12]

I don't know of any "embarrasing situation" that we were in , and I've been involved for 20 yrs. And to my fellow Mogadorian , remember we must have a little thicker skin than to be offended by a term such as "Mogatucky" or whatever it was.

The thicker skin comment sounds familiar. slipped up?

[Buckeye29]

Let me get something straight. If byf seeks a home in springfield you do not have to have a release to play for us. If you want to go to mogadoortucky go ahead. But we have been proven to be the team to beat year after year. Oh yea it takes money to build a rec center which a levy cant even get passed let alone build a new rec center.

Yet again you show your classlessness!!!! I bet your fellow "Bulldogs" are very happy that you live there.