starting trouble again

[thepolster]

Iam not the one to start trouble but, why wasnt Joe moran coaching the allstar team. I like Ed Ellis as a person but to give him the job over Joe come on. Me and Joe disagree on the whole heavy thing but He was at practice every night for the kids. Rich wasnt there half the time and ellis wasnt at his practice allot either. This pisses me off. I know my kid should not of been playing at syf, but there wasnt a jr high. Joe I hope people dont blame you for losing to c.f. Were the heck was hoffer, he wasnt on the allstar team. He was one of the best players on the team. I told the truth about everything to the AD at the highschool love me or hate me.

[CIA]

Iam not the one to start trouble but, why wasnt Joe moran coaching the allstar team. I like Ed Ellis as a person but to give him the job over Joe come on. Me and Joe disagree on the whole heavy thing but He was at practice every night for the kids. Rich wasnt there half the time and ellis wasnt at his practice allot either. This pisses me off. I know my kid should not of been playing at syf, but there wasnt a jr high. Joe I hope people dont blame you for losing to c.f. Were the heck was hoffer, he wasnt on the allstar team. He was one of the best players on the team. I told the truth about everything to the AD at the highschool love me or hate me.
well isn't the all star for varsity? if so ed is a jv coach, and Joe varsity. i don't think either one of them deserve to coach the all star team.

[OldCard]

Basically a group of Tallmadge coaches took the all star team and they picked up coaches from Springfield and Manchester. There may have been others as there are every other year.

Last year Mogadore was supposed to coach the All-Star team but declined because of other commitments. Field and Springfield coaches stepped up to take the job and did a great job. I think the Springfield guys were Varsity coaches but not absolutely sure. I am pretty sure that the Field coaches were JV coaches. In any event, the kids were happy and like this year, won the game.

The all-star competition is a special event for the kids and believe it or not, the coaches. Last year, the coaches asked the kids where they wanted to play and for the most part, they did their best to make sure the kids got a chance to play where they wanted to play.

I commend any coach that wants to give that extra time to work with these teams.

[thepolster]

Basically a group of Tallmadge coaches took the all star team and they picked up coaches from Springfield and Manchester. There may have been others as there are every other year.

Last year Mogadore was supposed to coach the All-Star team but declined because of other commitments. Field and Springfield coaches stepped up to take the job and did a great job. I think the Springfield guys were Varsity coaches but not absolutely sure. I am pretty sure that the Field coaches were JV coaches. In any event, the kids were happy and like this year, won the game.

The all-star competition is a special event for the kids and believe it or not, the coaches. Last year, the coaches asked the kids where they wanted to play and for the most part, they did their best to make sure the kids got a chance to play where they wanted to play.

I commend any coach that wants to give that extra time to work with these teams.
guy, your missing the point. Ellis was the jv coach. Joe the varsity coach deserved to go over him. Apparently you dont know anything about springfield and who is who. And who actually coached the kids in springfield everyday.

[CIA]

what about doug whited. he would of been a great addition. you know how many good coaches ssyf has pushed out? in order to keep these other clowns. their brew buddies.

[OldCard]

guy, your missing the point. Ellis was the jv coach. Joe the varsity coach deserved to go over him. Apparently you dont know anything about springfield and who is who. And who actually coached the kids in springfield everyday.

You are correct and I apologize if you took my post as insulting. But you don't understand how the All-Star coaching selection works. The head coach of the South All-Stars was the current Director of the Tallmadge program. He he had a group of Tallmadge coaches and ANY other coach from other programs that came to practice was on the staff. I can't answer for the coaches that did not show up.

Last year, the head coach of the South was a JV coach because the remaining varsity head coaches chose not to coach. It is that way many years.

I don't know if your varsity coach did not want to help or if he just was not told how it works. I would think that any coach that has been around for any length of time would know the procedures. In any case, I am positive he would have been welcome.

[SSpartans]

So what was the final score of the green Cuy.falls game?

[Irish87]

The way it was explained to me was, the Director of Springfield selects a Coach to represent the Springfield Varsity All Stars. If Coach Moran would have been asked, he would have accepted, but he wasn't.

CIA, I don't understand your logic, just because somebody is what you call "brew buddies" what does that have to do with deserving a chance assist with coaching the all stars? I mean Coach Moran pretty much did lead the Varsity to a 7 - 1, Division 2 Championship. As for Doug being selected, that doesn't make much sense. He was the coach for the B Team so he didn't really have much affiliation with the Varsity Team. Doug elected to go to the High School and coach 2 years ago. When he wasn't asked back, he came to the Youth again, asking to coach. The director offered him the B team and he accepted. He may have another chance to coach the Varsity, in the near future. he just can't expect to get hsi old job back, can he?

As for the Green/CF game, Green won an exciting game 19 - 6. Congratulations to both teams. They both were very talented.

[Buckeye29]

What I find funny is that all these guys talk about the thankless job of coaching, not getting paid for their time because they're volunteers, parents in their ears, and being under appriciated when in reality the majority of these guys would probably pay to get their chance to coach. Who the h--- cares who gets to coach the all-star team if the kids have fun? A lot of really good coaches have been ran out of Springfield because of the current powers to be. I'd like to see guys who've actually played the game coach. I know that is not manditory to be a good coach, but it goes a long way. How does a guy know how to run a practice if he never went through one? Anyways, to argu over who gets to coach an all-star game is crazy!!!!!

[Irish87]

Buckeye,

you obviously have no clue what goes on down at Springfield Youth. I can name 6 coaches off the top of my head, that played the game of Football, and played it pretty well I might add.
2 JV Coaches-One being a pretty good player back in the day for SHS(now don't gt a big head Meat) and the other actually being an assistant at the H.S a few years back.
2 Varsity Coaches- One played at St Vincent St Mary(thank you very much) and received many offers to play D2 Football back in the 80's and the other has been coaching Youth for approximately 20 years, if not more(and pretty sure played at SHS back in the 70's).
B Team coach- Again, an assistant at the HS last year and I'm pretty sure played at SHS back in the day(His initials would be D.W.).
C Team Coach- Played at SHS back in the 80's and went on to play D1 football at Toledo for a year or two.

This is just a short list of coaches, who know the game well, and I'll bet there are more, I just don't know all the assistants for all the teams. Your comment has no merit and it sounds like you are just trying to stir the pot.
The reason for the conversation about the All Star coach selection, is because of lack of respect. To chose a coach from a squad, who had no affiliation with the players that were selected makes no sense. Why not reward the Coach(es) that put the time in with these kids, to help turn them into All Stars. Its just a matter of respect. If you knew the situation with the Varsity Team, I think you would understand. If you would like, PM me and I'll explain in full, my personal view on the situation in detail. There is a lot more to it.

I'd also like to know this long list of "good" Coaches, who have been run out of Springfield. Please enlighten me, because I've been down there for close to 11 years now, and really can't come up with one.

[Buckeye29]

I guess I should have specified head coaches. Tell me who did Rich and Ed play for? I do agree that Big Joe D and Kevin are both great coaches. Too bad that Joe won't be there next year because his kid will never make weight for B-team, but that discussion is for another thread. As for Kevin, why is he not a head coach? He should be! I'm not going to sit here and list all the guys who have left because they disagree with Vern.

[spartanmom12]

I guess I should have specified head coaches. Tell me who did Rich and Ed play for? THERE COACHES? SEEMS ODD, I ONLY SEE THEM ONCE IN A GREAT WHILE.:shrug:

[Buckeye29]

Maybe my last couple posts haven't been fair Irish, I know you are down at that field everday rain or shine, and after thinking about it you do have a serious reason to be a little upset. If I coached a varsity team all year and led them to a pretty d--- good season and then someone picked a JV coach to come coach "my boys" in their all-star game my a-- would be a little chapped too. You and I have had our disagreements, but you did a good job with those boys this year. I think maybe you are better off coaching a little older kids. That's not a slam on you, some guys are good with younger kids and some are better with older kids. Anyways, what's next? If Vern gets a bug up his a-- again is he going to bring up an A-team coach to take them to Florida? This is why I believe that Vern is the major problem down there, he lets his personal feelings get in the way of what might be best for the kids. Maybe he should go back to what he was good at, counting helmets and knee pads, etc....you know equipment manager.

[CIA]

I guess I should have specified head coaches. Tell me who did Rich and Ed play for? I do agree that Big Joe D and Kevin are both great coaches. Too bad that Joe won't be there next year because his kid will never make weight for B-team, but that discussion is for another thread. As for Kevin, why is he not a head coach? He should be! I'm not going to sit here and list all the guys who have left because they disagree with Vern. man ditto, i have to agree word for word. 87 there are some guys who do not belong on that field., that are head coaches. you are not one of them. you were there all year, and i think you were one of the reasons for there record.

[green1965champs]

most of the guys wouldnt be coaching if there kids was not playing on the team,,. thats the way it goes.,,, thats the one of the down sides of it.,,,,,,, they mean right but actually hurt the teams,,,. you cannot make a linemen a running back.,,,, these coaches have to make better decisions.

[GRPride86]

Jerome Bettis

[Smashmouth#1]

most of the guys wouldnt be coaching if there kids was not playing on the team,,. thats the way it goes.,,, thats the one of the down sides of it.,,,,,,, they mean right but actually hurt the teams,,,. you cannot make a linemen a running back.,,,, these coaches have to make better decisions.

Care to elaborate....this is pretty vague.

[Irish87]

most of the guys wouldnt be coaching if there kids was not playing on the team,,. thats the way it goes.,,, thats the one of the down sides of it.,,,,,,, they mean right but actually hurt the teams,,,. you cannot make a linemen a running back.,,,, these coaches have to make better decisions.

Just to set the record straight-

In Springfield Youth Football, there was only one Coach, out of the A, JV and Varsity Teams, that had a parent coach his kid. The same Coaches for all 3 teams have stayed at their current Level for the past 3 years(except for me when I jumped from B to Varsity to get away from coaching my own kid).

With weight restrictions in effect in SYF, its not as difficult as you may think, to have a Lineman become a Running Back. Currently, the Varsity team has approximately 4 Lineman, who could very easily be RB's. Unfortunately, they were needed on the Line this year. I look for a few of them to make the transition to RB in the next few years.

[Smashmouth#1]

Just to set the record straight-

In Springfield Youth Football, there was only one Coach, out of the A, JV and Varsity Teams, that had a parent coach his kid. The same Coaches for all 3 teams have stayed at their current Level for the past 3 years(except for me when I jumped from B to Varsity to get away from coaching my own kid).

With weight restrictions in effect in SYF, its not as difficult as you may think, to have a Lineman become a Running Back. Currently, the Varsity team has approximately 4 Lineman, who could very easily be RB's. Unfortunately, they were needed on the Line this year. I look for a few of them to make the transition to RB in the next few years.

Running back or lineman it doesn't matter...........as a good coach you place kids in the position that is best for the team. You also need to take into consideration where that child is going to be successful...and do the best for the team.....I can understand that there are a lot of kids(and parents for that matter) that all they see is being a superstar running back......we need to impress upon them that football is a team sport.....and as a team player we do what's best for the team.....Irish, from reading your postings you seem to understand that.....so dont take this as calling you out......

[Irish87]

Good post Smashmouth. I wish more parents could understand what goes on in a Coaches mind, when consideration for positions are selected. A coaches main responsibility is to place kids in a position, that best suits the TEAM. Trust me, there are hundreds of hours spent, trying to figure out the best fit for the Team. Unfortunately, sometimes kids are placed in a position different than the year before. It happens. It doesn't mean that child will play that position the rest of his/her life. It simply means that during that particular season, the Coach feels this is the best fit for the Team. I went through it this year, as our Team had 8 kids, who previously had been RB's. It was difficult to choose, who was going to spend more time on the Line, but seemed to work out ok as we went 7 - 1 in the regular season, only to lose in the Semi's.

[Buckeye29]

I couldn't agree more Irish. As an ex-coach I spent a lot of time aggonizing over which kids would play where when it's obvious some kids you put on the line may not even be there the next year. When I played youth ball the kid that played quarterback for us on B-team ended up play O-line in high school. The problem I saw was when you had a kid that everyone (but his dad) knew was going to be a linemen his whole life would not play hard on the line because he wants to run the ball. In a perfect world every kid would get to play his favorite position, but we don't live in a perfect world. I think what a majority of parents need to remember is that FOOTBALL IS A TEAM SPORT!!! If a parenet is that much into their own kid they should let him wrestle!

[Smashmouth#1]

I couldn't agree more Irish. As an ex-coach I spent a lot of time aggonizing over which kids would play where when it's obvious some kids you put on the line may not even be there the next year. When I played youth ball the kid that played quarterback for us on B-team ended up play O-line in high school. The problem I saw was when you had a kid that everyone (but his dad) knew was going to be a linemen his whole life would not play hard on the line because he wants to run the ball. In a perfect world every kid would get to play his favorite position, but we don't live in a perfect world. I think what a majority of parents need to remember is that FOOTBALL IS A TEAM SPORT!!! If a parenet is that much into their own kid they should let him wrestle!

Good post Smashmouth. I wish more parents could understand what goes on in a Coaches mind, when consideration for positions are selected. A coaches main responsibility is to place kids in a position, that best suits the TEAM. Trust me, there are hundreds of hours spent, trying to figure out the best fit for the Team. Unfortunately, sometimes kids are placed in a position different than the year before. It happens. It doesn't mean that child will play that position the rest of his/her life. It simply means that during that particular season, the Coach feels this is the best fit for the Team. I went through it this year, as our Team had 8 kids, who previously had been RB's. It was difficult to choose, who was going to spend more time on the Line, but seemed to work out ok as we went 7 - 1 in the regular season, only to lose in the Semi's.

I think that this and a few other issues could be resolved with a simple team meeting at the beginning of the year. Tell you parents that your child will be placed in a position that the coaches feel best suits the team and where they will be successful.....(notice, I did say coaches)....every attempt will be made to teach every kid more than one position.....but that will occur on an as needed basis....and only after he gets a firm grasp on his primary position. You can elaborate on your coaching philosophy and how you are going to determine playtime and ensure that its as fair as possible....etc....I cant give you my whole coaching philosophy on here...you guys might try and steal it and then you might come back and beat us!!!!! j/k

[CIA]

I think that this and a few other issues could be resolved with a simple team meeting at the beginning of the year. Tell you parents that your child will be placed in a position that the coaches feel best suits the team and where they will be successful.....(notice, I did say coaches)....every attempt will be made to teach every kid more than one position.....but that will occur on an as needed basis....and only after he gets a firm grasp on his primary position. You can elaborate on your coaching philosophy and how you are going to determine playtime and ensure that its as fair as possible....etc....I cant give you my whole coaching philosophy on here...you guys might try and steal it and then you might come back and beat us!!!!! j/k
i agree to a letting the coach make the choice of where a kid is best for him and team.

let me ask you a question. what if the coach has no clue, or he thinks he knows where to put a kid, and you as an adult who has played the game, knows that he is making a mistake? now you can see some of issues we have that people want changes. example the move on changing varsity coaches, big big mistake. why do i say that? because the director of ssyf made that move, and he doesn't have much experience of the game, and the person he picked(_d __l_S) who was a jv coach, and never played the game. trust me jv's record was good but not because of the head coach. it was the other coaches around him.

[Smashmouth#1]

i agree to a letting the coach make the choice of where a kid is best for him and team.

let me ask you a question. what if the coach has no clue, or he thinks he knows where to put a kid, and you as an adult who has played the game, knows that he is making a mistake? now you can see some of issues we have that people want changes. example the move on changing varsity coaches, big big mistake. why do i say that? because the director of ssyf made that move, and he doesn't have much experience of the game, and the person he picked(_d __l_S) who was a jv coach, and never played the game. trust me jv's record was good but not because of the head coach. it was the other coaches around him.

Hmmmm........that's a valid question. Maybe I am reading into this too much.....and don't take my comments as trying to put you down personally because I am not......I am not familiar with your JV or Varsity coaches so I cant knowledgably respond to that issue...you will have to take that up with your director....but the same way that I suggest you deal with the coach in my comments that follow.
If you truely have an issue about placement of a kid, you first need to make sure that you sit and think it through rationally........I mean remove the emotion from the situation and only look at facts and reasoning. I say this because most of the issues of this type that I have seen deal with a parent feeling that his child has been slighted.....or might be by changing his position.....(say from running back to tight end or to lineman for instance).....
after you have seriously thought it through, there should not be an issue with tactfully bringing it up with the coach in question. As long as there is straight talk and no emotion involved. Realize that the coach might be looking at you, at first, as just another lunatic parent who wants to see his kid be a superstar so that you have something to talk about around the cooler or you want to live vicariously through your kid......this is something that should be taken into consideration, but it shouldn't stop you if you truely have an issue here. If you bring your issues up tactfully, and have good reasons on why you feel the way you do....I cannot see why any sensible person would not engage in a conversation here.....Secondly, listen to what the coach has to say.....I mean really listen....try and see his side of it.....look at his perspective........realize that what he tells you will probably be politically correct (so as not to offend) and somewhat watered down.....but none the less......you really should try to see his point of view. I feel that most issues of this kind can be solved through intelligent conversation as long as both parties want to find a solution....
As far as being on the coach end of it.....I always would and will try to empathize with my parents and their issues....I will talk and explain my reasoning behind things so there arent any unanswered questions....as long as a person comes to me with good reasoning and valid issues...I will work with them to try and resolve them......on the other hand if it's an issue of a lunatic parent.....I'm not always sure how to solve that situation without hurting the team as a whole..........Any request that I get, I will listen to, but how I deal with it always depends how it effects the team as a whole.
Personally, this season, I had a parent that had an issue with play time......myself and my coaching staff were already aware of this issue before anyone brought it to my attention......we took steps to resolve this issue.......the steps we took didnt work.........a parent had an issue and brought it to my attention....That's great....(I mean that, not being sarcastic).....We then took a different approach and it worked out...this took 2 weeks and 2 games to solve.....there were some intense conversations between my coaching staff, but we solved it.....and it made a positive difference for the team.........that was one of my issues.......the other issue was the fact that, when some parents feel that we needed him in...my son was on the sidelines......now I'm the coach and I had parents telling me that I didn't play my son enough???? (and it wasnt my wife!!!!) That one flabergasted me......He started on offense or defense every week(because he earned it, and for the record, I didn't pick the starting defense.).......we had 18 or 19 of 26 starters....and the rest played at least a quarter.....but we always tried for 2 quarters......and achieved it for a majority of the season.....That issue...I just let go by the wayside...the team did well....my son did well.......all of the kids did a great job.....they learned a lot....they grew as individuals and as football players and as young men......and we were undefeated........that's what's important here.......not the undefeated part, but the rest.......we could have gone 2-6....and as long as the rest came along.....I would have been as happy as a pig in a blanket.....I hope I answered your question........but like I said.......I cannot comment specifically on your coaches or your director....I dont know any of them personally.....

[Buckeye29]

All I know is that if the varsity coach is changed and it is not either Joe Moran or Kevin Metzger then Vern should really just resign as director because yet again it would prove that he's not really there for the kids.

[spartanmom12]

All I know is that if the varsity coach is changed and it is not either Joe Moran or Kevin Metzger then Vern should really just resign as director because yet again it would prove that he's not really there for the kids.

It's called the good ole boy system. You know what would be ironic? Joe m being like the head of football operations at the youth. Doug being the Jr high coach with Kevin m, Scott c, Tad r, and Mike S, as assistants.

[The real Spartan.]

All I know is that if the varsity coach is changed and it is not either Joe Moran or Kevin Metzger then Vern should really just resign as director because yet again it would prove that he's not really there for the kids. Not a bad plan, as far as the coaches.

[The real Spartan.]

It's called the good ole boy system. You know what would be ironic? Joe m being like the head of football operations at the youth. Doug being the Jr high coach with Kevin m, Scott c, Tad r, and Mike S, as assistants. Like quoted in the other entry. good plan, where do the other coaches you have not named fall into place?

[Buckeye29]

It's called the good ole boy system. You know what would be ironic? Joe m being like the head of football operations at the youth. Doug being the Jr high coach with Kevin m, Scott c, Tad r, and Mike S, as assistants.

I'm not sure what you mean by good ole boy system???? I like your Jr High coach selections and I like Joe M as youth varsity head coach, or maybe offensive coordinater, but not head of football operations. I like Joe, but he's a bit of a control freek-don't take that wrong Joe. I think he is best suited to run a varsity offense. He proved that this year I think. I would even like to see what he could do with even a little older kids. Anyways, when I think of the "good ole boy system" I think of Vern and his cronies, and I'm not sure that Joe fits into that whole bunch anymore. You can say what you will about J.M.- and I have in the past as well- but the guy is there every night and he is there for the kids. Anyways, just my opinion, take it for what it's worth.

[thepolster]

Like quoted in the other entry. good plan, where do the other coaches you have not named fall into place?
I believe they belong at the jr high

[Irish87]

All I know is that if the varsity coach is changed and it is not either Joe Moran or Kevin Metzger then Vern should really just resign as director because yet again it would prove that he's not really there for the kids.

Its Official, Vern King has resigned as Director of Springfield Youth Football. He has named Ed Ellis as his replacement.

[thepolster]

Its Official, Vern King has resigned as Director of Springfield Youth Football. He has named Ed Ellis as his replacement.

that still wont change anything I told you

[spartan71]

things will be different now give him a chance lets see what he can do i have worked with him for years he is determined to make things better and i believe he will...

[CIA]

that still wont change anything I told you
i don't know. i think we went from the pan and into the fire with this one. i don't think ed is a good choice. after all he did get to coach the all star team without earning it. it was just handed to him. it wasn't because of him, for the jv record it was his coaches underneath him.:Ohno: :eek: :confused: :rolleyes: :rainbow: :) :mad: :wallbang:

[1badspartan]

Did ---- freeze over? Did I miss it?

Give this guy a chance, Why so you can take the head coaches job at varsity?

We all know he can't decide which shoe goes on what foot.

Big mistake not having someone who lives in Springfield be director. I hope varsity does well with no players.

[The real Spartan.]

Its Official, Vern King has resigned as Director of Springfield Youth Football. He has named Ed Ellis as his replacement.

hey irish, do you know if he kept all the other people? or did he pick new officers?

[Young Spartan Nation]

this is where i say good bye to springfield !!!

[Buckeye29]

How can anything ever change if the director is just handed from friend to friend without any input from anyone? What SYF needs to do is create an association like they do down at the BMX track. Anyone can join. You pay $5 and you are a lifetime member. There are two meetings per year where any paid member can attend as well as VOTE on any pertitent things that come up. That way if a director is doing a bad job "the association" votes in a new one. It works great at the track and it keeps this type of situation from happenning. Just because you're the current director's good buddy doesn't mean you'll be the next director. Democracy works pretty good if you ask me. Just a suggestion.

[The real Spartan.]

How can anything ever change if the director is just handed from friend to friend without any input from anyone? What SYF needs to do is create an association like they do down at the BMX track. Anyone can join. You pay $5 and you are a lifetime member. There are two meetings per year where any paid member can attend as well as VOTE on any pertitent things that come up. That way if a director is doing a bad job "the association" votes in a new one. It works great at the track and it keeps this type of situation from happenning. Just because you're the current director's good buddy doesn't mean you'll be the next director. Democracy works pretty good if you ask me. Just a suggestion. i totally agree.

[1badspartan]

How can anything ever change if the director is just handed from friend to friend without any input from anyone? What SYF needs to do is create an association like they do down at the BMX track. Anyone can join. You pay $5 and you are a lifetime member. There are two meetings per year where any paid member can attend as well as VOTE on any pertitent things that come up. That way if a director is doing a bad job "the association" votes in a new one. It works great at the track and it keeps this type of situation from happenning. Just because you're the current director's good buddy doesn't mean you'll be the next director. Democracy works pretty good if you ask me. Just a suggestion.

This was already a done deal at beginning of season. Why else was E.... at all the meetings.

[CIA]

How can anything ever change if the director is just handed from friend to friend without any input from anyone? What SYF needs to do is create an association like they do down at the BMX track. Anyone can join. You pay $5 and you are a lifetime member. There are two meetings per year where any paid member can attend as well as VOTE on any pertitent things that come up. That way if a director is doing a bad job "the association" votes in a new one. It works great at the track and it keeps this type of situation from happenning. Just because you're the current director's good buddy doesn't mean you'll be the next director. Democracy works pretty good if you ask me. Just a suggestion. well i know allot of people i talk to hope this black stripe league goes through. this is an example of why. poor leadership . ed dont even live in springfield, he lives in lake.

[Young Spartan Nation]

There has gotta be something we can do, this is a democracy after all. You just shouldnt be able to hand the league over to your little friend. He needs to be exposed to someone higher up for all the cheating that he knew about this year and went along with. The league should be taken from him, not his choice to hand it over.

[Irish87]

hey irish, do you know if he kept all the other people? or did he pick new officers?


Real Spartan,

I have not been told what is going on next year. Everything is rumors at this point. When I was in Florida, nothing was said by Ed, about who is returning next year. I have no idea who the coahes will be next year for any age group.

[rocket67]

before eveyone starts to complain about Ellis how many people wanted the job. How many people told Vern and others in Springfield I want to give up all my time with my family during football season to do a thankless job. It is real easy to sit back and point out a persons mistakes when you are never out in the spotlight to have someone see your own.

[GRPride86]

I just got word that "ALL" the SYFA High School coaches got an introduction to the BFL. Is that true and what do the coaches think about it?

[spartanmom12]

before eveyone starts to complain about Ellis how many people wanted the job. How many people told Vern and others in Springfield I want to give up all my time with my family during football season to do a thankless job. It is real easy to sit back and point out a persons mistakes when you are never out in the spotlight to have someone see your own. Nobody was told about Vern leaving. That is the good ole boy system.

[Irish87]

GRPride,

who do you mean by SYFA High School coaches? Are you referring to the current High School coaches, or Springfield Suburban Youth Football coaches?

Rocket,

there was no "raising of the hand" to ask to be Director. No one even knew he was stepping down. Ed has been Vern's choice for the last 3 years and there was not going to be a discussion about it, no matter what. If the Board, or anyone else in SSFY knew he was stepping down, I can tell you, there would have been 2 to 3 other qualified persons who may have thrown their name in the hat. It just so happens, that everything was a secret between Ed and Vern and everyone else was left out in the blue.

[spartanmom12]

I just got word that "ALL" the SYFA High School coaches got an introduction to the BFL. Is that true and what do the coaches think about it?

More like two months ago. They recieved a nice package. thank you

[rocket67]

Irish Iam sorry I thought everyone knew that Vern was going to b stepping down. He told me last year at the end of the season that this year will most likely be his last. Then this year I did not hear from Vern himself but many people from ssyf that Vern was done. I also heard from people around syf that Vern will step down at seasons end. So I thought nobody wanted the job.