SlC vs MNW

[sa68ag]

SLC takes opening drive for TD. SLC 7-0.

[djtomr941]

7-7 MNW driving.

[NorrisHopper30]

http://www.yappi.com/forums/showthread.php?t=150202

[consumerman]

so much for the mystique of winning those tough texas playoffs where 3-7 and 5-5 teams get in

slc had their first chance to prove themselves on a national stage (even though they are CS to travel) and embarrassed themselves

without some bougus PF penalties and clearly non-receptions ruled as receptions the game was a slaughter

slc had one good offensive scoring drive

[FinalWord]

SLC was exposed tonight as the fraud they've been for the past few years. They got their lunches handed to them in a game that wasn't nearly as close as the final score.

SLC would be perhaps the 4th or 5th best team in Cincinnati this year yet alone Ohio. Teams that I saw at The Herbie that are better than SLC include St. X, LaSalle, Cathedral, Independence, Elder, Moeller, Colerain, Hoover & Mission Viejo. SLC would struggle to win 2 games against the Herbie teams that played in Cincy.

MNW had an athletic team. I thought their offense was as athletic as the Independence offense at the skill positions....They are a very good football team but they would be a great team if they had a little more discipline.

SLC proved that, like they say in Texas, they are all hat and no cattle...

[RidgePride]

SLC lost to a better team tonight no doubt but MNW would have handled all those teams you mentioned in a more convincing fashion.

SLC is no fraud...They lost almost their entire defense and faced a team full of mega stars on offense.

Still SLC held their own.

[naughty]

SLC lost to a better team tonight no doubt but MNW would have handled all those teams you mentioned in a more convincing fashion.

SLC is no fraud...They lost almost their entire defense and faced a team full of mega stars on offense.

Still SLC held their own.


They held there own because MNW let them. Take away mnw mistakes and it is a blow out. The stats and Score is Close but Slc got handled tonight.

[RidgePride]

They held there own because MNW let them. Take away mnw mistakes and it is a blow out. The stats and Score is Close but Slc got handled tonight.

For some reason people only look at the mistakes of the team you are rooting for. You can't take away the MNW mistakes. If you take away the MNW mistakes, you have to take away the SLC mistakes and you still have a tight ball game.



Newton's fumble when inside the 10 or close to that was a big one.

[naughty]

if this game had no turnovers by both teams. Mnw wins my at least 4 scores. slc was good. But as many said. MNW was to powerfull. But anyway.

Sterotyping gets you no where. As many texas fans did to these kids who play for Miami Northwestern. So its my feeling that slc and all fans in texas got what they deserved tonight. Pay back is a -----.

[consumerman]

For some reason people only look at the mistakes of the team you are rooting for. You can't take away the MNW mistakes. If you take away the MNW mistakes, you have to take away the SLC mistakes and you still have a tight ball game.



Newton's fumble when inside the 10 or close to that was a big one.

SLC had one meaningful scoring drive of any significance

[naughty]

all have to say is Payback is a *****.

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[RidgePride]

if this game had no turnovers by both teams. Mnw wins my at least 4 scores. slc was good. But as many said. MNW was to powerfull. But anyway.

Sterotyping gets you no where. As many texas fans did to these kids who play for Miami Northwestern. So its my feeling that slc and all fans in texas got what they deserved tonight. Pay back is a -----.

Payback for what? Thinking our team would win?

[RidgePride]

SLC had one meaningful scoring drive of any significance

Very true -

[RidgePride]

if this game had no turnovers by both teams. Mnw wins my at least 4 scores


Outlandish claim.

[djtomr941]

SLC was exposed tonight as the fraud they've been for the past few years. They got their lunches handed to them in a game that wasn't nearly as close as the final score.

SLC would be perhaps the 4th or 5th best team in Cincinnati this year yet alone Ohio. Teams that I saw at The Herbie that are better than SLC include St. X, LaSalle, Cathedral, Independence, Elder, Moeller, Colerain, Hoover & Mission Viejo. SLC would struggle to win 2 games against the Herbie teams that played in Cincy.

MNW had an athletic team. I thought their offense was as athletic as the Independence offense at the skill positions....They are a very good football team but they would be a great team if they had a little more discipline.

SLC proved that, like they say in Texas, they are all hat and no cattle...

If MNW doesn't shoot themselves in the foot, the game is a blowout. Something like 42-7.

[RidgePride]

If MNW doesn't shoot themselves in the foot, the game is a blowout. Something like 42-7.

Depends on who you were rooting for. SLC had 5 turnovers. They shot themselves in the foot a few more times.

[djtomr941]

For some reason people only look at the mistakes of the team you are rooting for. You can't take away the MNW mistakes. If you take away the MNW mistakes, you have to take away the SLC mistakes and you still have a tight ball game.



Newton's fumble when inside the 10 or close to that was a big one.

But if MNW never fumbled on the punt reception, then SLC doesn't drive to the 10.

MNW also got way conservative in the 2nd half.

[djtomr941]

Depends on who you were rooting for. SLC had 5 turnovers. They shot themselves in the foot a few more times.

True. I think the turnovers from SLC were created. Some of the MNW were just boneheaded. The strip return for the TD was legit.

[pied]

If MNW doesn't shoot themselves in the foot, the game is a blowout. Something like 42-7.

42-7? Stats don't tell the whole stor, but they don't say 42-7 either....


Courtesy of Keith Whitmire

Attendance 31,896

S. Carroll; 14; 7; 0; 0; – 21

M. Northwestern; 7; 14; 8; 0; - 29

C – Chris Brainard 35 pass from Riley Dodge (Cade Foster kick)

N – Tommy Streeter 32 pass from Jacory Harris (Robert Demps kick)

C – Derek Tomlin 32 fumble return (Foster kick)

N – Streeter 19 pass from Harris (Demps kick)

N – Aldarius Johnson 16 pass from Harris (Demps kick)

C – Blake Cantu 26 pass from Dodge (Foster kick)

N – Streeter 75 pass from Harris (kick failed)

N – safety, punt snap kicked out of end zone

First downs
SLC 16
NW 21

Rushes yards
SLC 23-83
NW 29-86

Passing yards
SLC 266
NW 282

Passes
SLC 23-33-3
NW 21-28-0

Punts
SLC 3-93
NW 5-184

Penalties
SLC 6-62
NW 6-60

Fumbles, lost
SLC 4-2
NW 4-3

[RidgePride]

But if MNW never fumbled on the punt reception, then SLC doesn't drive to the 10.

MNW also got way conservative in the 2nd half.

The differense in the game was MNWs receivers against SLCs secondary. The SLC corners are about 5'8" going against 6'6 and 6'3.

MNW was conservative because they were running at will in the first half. They tried it again in the second half but SLC shut it down.

[RidgePride]

42-7? Stats don't tell the whole stor, but they don't say 42-7 either....

The stats are pretty similar. The glaring difference is the 3 SLC interceptions.

[pied]

The stats are pretty similar. The glaring difference is the 3 SLC interceptions.

Stats are eerily similar in my opinion, except in the one category that matters.

[SteveFoxSC]

SLC was exposed tonight as the fraud they've been for the past few years. They got their lunches handed to them in a game that wasn't nearly as close as the final score.

SLC would be perhaps the 4th or 5th best team in Cincinnati this year yet alone Ohio. Teams that I saw at The Herbie that are better than SLC include St. X, LaSalle, Cathedral, Independence, Elder, Moeller, Colerain, Hoover & Mission Viejo. SLC would struggle to win 2 games against the Herbie teams that played in Cincy.

MNW had an athletic team. I thought their offense was as athletic as the Independence offense at the skill positions....They are a very good football team but they would be a great team if they had a little more discipline.

SLC proved that, like they say in Texas, they are all hat and no cattle...

Yeah yeah, remember Findlay? Big bad and mighty got slaughtered by a horrid Texas high team? Yeah spare me we all know ohio ball sucks when they played quality teams...

As for mnw winning I'm personally glad they won, with the Dallas news papers making it "perfect neighborhood vs the ghetto" i'm glad mnw won. Being a person who grew up in all kinds of environments i think that was f'ed up especially talking about the % on student welfare lunches and average incomes. Oppose to katy, SLC will never play MNW again ever thank god so thats 1 loss they will never avenge!

[BuckeyeJon2006]

Yeah yeah, remember Findlay? Big bad and mighty got slaughtered by a horrid Texas high team? Yeah spare me we all know ohio ball sucks when they played quality teams...



You mean the Findlay team that went 4-6 last year? Yeah they were really "big bad and mighty."

[SteveFoxSC]

You mean the Findlay team that went 4-6 last year? Yeah they were really "big bad and mighty."

Yeah big and bad, oooooh thats right. Inferiority syndrome, sorta like REL was supposed to actually be good. Even though they weren't.

[D-Swizzel102]

Not only was Findlay horrendous that season...but they are nowhere close to Cincinnati geographically or football wise.

Name a team from Texas that's beat a Cincinnati team recently and you're remarks will hold some water.

[yallerjacket]

If MNW doesn't shoot themselves in the foot, the game is a blowout. Something like 42-7.

MNW seems to make a habit out of shooting themselves in the foot. That's just who they are. Therefore, it's one of the factors that determine how good of a team they are. I could say, "If SLC had scored every time they had the ball, it would have been a blowout."

What was the final score, 29-21? MNW is 8 pts better than SLC. Period.

If there was a team somewhere with the talent of MNW that was a little less error prone, maybe they would beat SLC 42-7, but that team doesn't exist.

[RidgePride]

Oppose to katy, SLC will never play MNW again ever thank god so thats 1 loss they will never avenge!

Well it appears that Plano and Odessa Permian are both back to their powerhouse ways for 2007! Odessa Permian beat Euless Trinity 30-3 - Plano beat Carter 42-7.

We will see how SLC stacks up against them.

There is no shame in losing to one of the best teams in Florida in sometime (Miami Allstars). It is extremely rare for a high school team to have that much talent at every position. I also doubt that This is SLC's best team of the last 5 years.

[concha]

Yeah big and bad, oooooh thats right. Inferiority syndrome, sorta like REL was supposed to actually be good. Even though they weren't.

All of Texas thought that REL was just fine. Undefeated, ranked, just beat that Florida team..... And didn't your boy Froggy claim they'd win by 2-3 TDs or more? Didn't they have pretty good seasons the year before and after?

Texas football = exposed

[RidgePride]

All of Texas thought that REL was just fine. Undefeated, ranked, just beat that Florida team..... And didn't your boy Froggy claim they'd win by 2-3 TDs or more? Didn't they have pretty good seasons the year before and after?

Texas football = exposed

Exposed for what? losing to the Miami Allstars? NO shame in that at all.

Didn't ST. X win the Ohio state championship in 2005 then lose to Lakeland in 2006? Any difference in what happened last night?

Ohio Football = exposed

[concha]

Exposed for what? losing to the Miami Allstars? NO shame in that at all.

Didn't ST. X win the Ohio state championship in 2005 then lose to Lakeland in 2006? Any difference in what happened last night?

Ohio Football = exposed

X was not expected to win (lower-ranked), didn't even win their region, and took the 2005 Fl All-Star team to OT. That year X had zero D1 recruits. The ones they had were all underclassmen.

Ohio's top teams have stones and face top national programs every year.

Exposed? Not. Ask Indy, Hoover and DeMatha.

[WoodyHayes]

That team is good. My perspective is that SLC was struggling and was VERY fortunate to lose by only 8. Having those athletes on the other side of the ball may have helped this along. There is not a team that I have seen all year that had that kind of talent. My take on it is the best team won and they play 10 times and this Miami team probably wins 9 of them. I can take solace in the fact that the team I follow now won on Friday. Go Gilmer. The truth is Miami let this team hang around by UNFORCED errors. Take them away and they would have put the stake in their hearts in the first half. Most of the turnovers SLC had was due to their bells being rung. This Miami team is very good (I say the 04 Colerain team is better) and they had no problem travelling to a hostile environment and laying the smack down.

[RidgePride]

X was not expected to win (lower-ranked), didn't even win their region, and took the 2005 Fl All-Star team to OT. That year X had zero D1 recruits. The ones they had were all underclassmen.

Ohio's top teams have stones and face top national programs every year.

Exposed? Not. Ask Indy, Hoover and DeMatha.

You base this all on expectations of SLC and ST. X? ST. X was still the previous years State champs just like SLC. This year SLC was ranked #1, Are they truly TX #1? The year has not played out yet so we do not know what the 2007 version of SLC will bring.

I would not call the 2006 Lakeland team a team of All Stars that is an overstatement. They were not stacked at every position like MNW.

I have said many times that TX is not always going to have the #1 team in the nation. If SLC wins the state championship, this will be one of those years. TX depth will always be #1

[WoodyHayes]

I pulled this post up off a thread this summer,

A good source

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A good friend of mine who refs went to the 7 on 7 and he told me that he would be VERY surprised if they run the table this year. He said that there are some chinks in the armor that needs ironed out or it is lights out for the Dragons this year.

I wouldnt call them chinks. I would call them gaping holes. Talk about the perfect town. I was sitting at BW3 typing on my laptop and i cant even repeat what everyone was saying about the "PERFECT TOWN" They were ready to grab the ropes and have an interstate lynching.

[steeler01]

Well it appears that Plano and Odessa Permian are both back to their powerhouse ways for 2007! Odessa Permian beat Euless Trinity 30-3 - Plano beat Carter 42-7.

We will see how SLC stacks up against them.

There is no shame in losing to one of the best teams in Florida in sometime (Miami Allstars). It is extremely rare for a high school team to have that much talent at every position. I also doubt that This is SLC's best team of the last 5 years.

Permian isn't very good. Trinity is horrible. No blocking technique what so ever. Trinity's lineman are always high and just try to outmuscle people with their size.SLC will beat these teams again with ease.

[RidgePride]

Permian isn't very good. Trinity is horrible. No blocking technique what so ever. Trinity's lineman are always high and just try to outmuscle people with their size.SLC will beat these teams again with ease.

Did you watch the game last night?

[steeler01]

Did you watch the game last night?

yes

[SteveFoxSC]

face it concha

1. Fl
2.Cal
3. TX
4. OH


Both OH and TX got smashed in by fl and cal. both = exposed i found it proper to only put the 2 states where they deserve to be.

X was not expected to win (lower-ranked), didn't even win their region, and took the 2005 Fl All-Star team to OT. That year X had zero D1 recruits. The ones they had were all underclassmen.

Ohio's top teams have stones and face top national programs every year.

Exposed? Not. Ask Indy, Hoover and DeMatha.


Hoover? Who actually takes them serious? Indy we knew it would happen when they left the state, Dematha is from where again?

[consumerman]

I have said many times that TX is not always going to have the #1 team in the nation

oh really Sherlock?

and what years do you absolutely unequivocally guarantee that SLC was the #1 team in the nation

[SteveFoxSC]

I have said many times that TX is not always going to have the #1 team in the nation

oh really Sherlock?

and what years do you absolutely unequivocally guarantee that SLC was the #1 team in the nation

people in here take so much pride that when it goes wrong, well you have an idea.

[djtomr941]

You base this all on expectations of SLC and ST. X? ST. X was still the previous years State champs just like SLC. This year SLC was ranked #1, Are they truly TX #1? The year has not played out yet so we do not know what the 2007 version of SLC will bring.

I would not call the 2006 Lakeland team a team of All Stars that is an overstatement. They were not stacked at every position like MNW.

I have said many times that TX is not always going to have the #1 team in the nation. If SLC wins the state championship, this will be one of those years. TX depth will always be #1

2006 Lakeland was stacked except for the LB's and the QB. 2 very important positions. They nearly paid for it a few times by being one dimensional. You knew Chris Rainey and Jamar Taylor were going to run and they did it anyway. St. X, STA, Osceola, Mainland... none of them could stop it and they KNEW what was coming. With a passing QB like 2005's Billy Lowe, they would have been sick.

[RidgePride]

I have said many times that TX is not always going to have the #1 team in the nation

oh really Sherlock?

and what years do you absolutely unequivocally guarantee that SLC was the #1 team in the nation


None! What is your point? Please tell me.

[consumerman]

Lakeland (5A champs in FLA) beat St. X (Didnt even make it out of their region in OH) 25-22 in OT

Colerain beat a bad Tx team in 05. But then again Crain didnt make it out of their region.
Texas High beat one of the worst Oh teams in 06.
Moeller beat Dallas Jesuit in the either late 70s or early 80s

MNW beat SLC...... both defending champs, although SLC wouldnt have been if not for the bonehead move by Euless Trinity's coach.

MV beat Moeller - 5th best in the city of Cincinnati - by 4 points
DLS (13-2) beat Elder - 6-4 and 3rd out of 4th in their league, missed playoffs.

Elder - most likely 6th best in Cincinnati this year, beat Independence and ended a 109 game win streak for the North Carolinians


Byrnes 13-2 beat Moeller 5-5 by 1 point last year.

Byrnes - undefeated in SC this year and favorites again for state
were taken to OT by Centerville who wont make the playoffs in OH

DLS was 13-1 and led 49-18 against a team supposedly from the best conference in the country

[SteveFoxSC]

so question what if mnw and slc both lose? in playoffs. would that kill the hype built around the game later? just a thought that crossed my mind.

[consumerman]

None! What is your point? Please tell me.

gee

you said "i have said many times that SLC does not always have the #1 tema in thenation"

I challenge you to provide 1 time you GUARANTEE that SLC WAS the best team in the nation

name it

[SteveFoxSC]

gee

you said "i have said many times that SLC does not always have the #1 tema in thenation"

I challenge you to provide 1 time you GUARANTEE that SLC WAS the best team in the nation

name it

i can probably say 05 if i had to take a guess possibly 06, but 05 for sure.

[djtomr941]

i can probably say 05 if i had to take a guess possibly 06, but 05 for sure.


Not sure. Lakeland's best team was 2005. They had great LB's, a QB and all those Juniors. Billy Lowe threw the ball and Lakeland had a balanced offense.

If you look at their numbers the 2005 team was statistically more dominating than the one last year. They did not have any close games except for Niceville, which they won on the road in a hostile environment 28-21.

[consumerman]

i can probably say 05 if i had to take a guess possibly 06, but 05 for sure.

for sure?

and you base that on what?

what makes slc 05 better than any other undefeated state champion (or at least 1/2 division state champion a la slc)?

what is your proof?

[steeler 01]

for sure?

and you base that on what?

what makes slc 05 better than any other undefeated state champion (or at least 1/2 division state champion a la slc)?

what is your proof?

According to them they faced tougher competition that year. I'd take Lakeland 2005 over SLC.

[ProfessorX]

I would not call the 2006 Lakeland team a team of All Stars that is an overstatement. They were not stacked at every position like MNW.



Are you kidding me LMFAO....lets see...Lakeland 2006 kids....Where are they now?


RB Chris Rainey-Florida, HS AA, getting playing time
WR Paul Wilson-Florida
OL-MaurkicePouncey-Florida, starting left guard
OL-Mike Pouncey-Florida, getting into games at center
DT-John Brown- Florida, HS AA, seeing action
DB-Ahmad Black- Florida, seeing some action
LB-Steve Wilks-Florida
P-Justin Burdette-Florida
FB/RB-Jamar Taylor-Alabama but left for USF to be closer to his son, lol
TE/DE-Jordon Corbin-LSU
DB-Brian Valdez DB-Jacksonville

Yeah they werent stacked. To have EIGHT kids from one high school team go to the hottest program in the nation, who just won the freaking BCS championship is ridiculus. They had TEN SEC players, the best conference in the nation, on one team. Nearly half the freaking starters went to the SEC!! Thats a sick amount of talent. Couple that with the talent they had in 2005 and its no wonder they were even better in 2005. I actually think Im forgetting some players.

[concha]

face it concha

1. Fl
2.Cal
3. TX
4. OH


Both OH and TX got smashed in by fl and cal. both = exposed i found it proper to only put the 2 states where they deserve to be.




Hoover? Who actually takes them serious? Indy we knew it would happen when they left the state, Dematha is from where again?


Cali teams have not played our best.

DLS beat Elder. Elder is 2-8 in their league since 2004. They didn't even make the playoffs ans were spanked by at least 3 other teams last year. This game proved...what?

MV beat Moe, which is at best the #3 program in Cincy in recent years and hasn't made it out of its own region in a decade. MV is a SoCal elite.

LBP beat G'ville, who is a good program but have a grand total of one regional title on their resume in forever. Not a ton proved here.

Florida has an OT win over X. X was led by juniors and lower-ranked, ending up as probably the #4 team in Ohio D1. Lakeland graduated 10 players to the SEC (8 to Florida). X graduated ZERO D1s. The question here is: Why didn't Lakeland win by more? Colerain beat X far worse and they didn't even make the finals.

So Florida's best beats our #4 in OT. Why was it so close?

Cali has not played our current elites, but at least twice they brought theirs.

[djtomr941]

Lakeland (5A champs in FLA) beat St. X (Didnt even make it out of their region in OH) 25-22 in OT

Colerain beat a bad Tx team in 05. But then again Crain didnt make it out of their region.
Texas High beat one of the worst Oh teams in 06.
Moeller beat Dallas Jesuit in the either late 70s or early 80s

MNW beat SLC...... both defending champs, although SLC wouldnt have been if not for the bonehead move by Euless Trinity's coach.

MV beat Moeller - 5th best in the city of Cincinnati - by 4 points
DLS (13-2) beat Elder - 6-4 and 3rd out of 4th in their league, missed playoffs.

Elder - most likely 6th best in Cincinnati this year, beat Independence and ended a 109 game win streak for the North Carolinians


Byrnes 13-2 beat Moeller 5-5 by 1 point last year.

Byrnes - undefeated in SC this year and favorites again for state
were taken to OT by Centerville who wont make the playoffs in OH

You leave out one very important detail. If you want to get logical that is.

Lakeland went on the road. Played in front of a hostile crowd. That is good for 7-14 points. So on a Neutral field, Lakeland wins by 7. At Lakeland or in FL, it's a 14 point victory. Not sure where you are trying to go with this when you leave out important details like this.

[djtomr941]

[QUOTE=concha;2655781]So Florida's best beats our #4 in OT. Why was it so close?QUOTE]

Maybe because it was in Ohio?

[Chicago]

Then why, when the lines are set for NFL games, does the home team only get an extra 3 points?

Even though in NFL games, there are often 60,000 fans screaming in a dome, and that's never the case in high school games.

And as much as I liked the St. Xavier student section (and the Bomb Squad), I think the Lakeland air horns right before every St. Xavier snap probably had a much bigger effect.

[fish82]

Then why, when the lines are set for NFL games, does the home team only get an extra 3 points?

Even though in NFL games, there are often 60,000 fans screaming in a dome, and that's never the case in high school games.

And as much as I liked the St. Xavier student section (and the Bomb Squad), I think the Lakeland air horns right before every St. Xavier snap probably had a much bigger effect.

Well put. If anyone knows a bookie that will take $ on HS games and give 7-14 points for home field, please PM me ASAP!!!!:rolleyes:

[RidgePride]

gee

you said "i have said many times that SLC does not always have the #1 tema in thenation"

I challenge you to provide 1 time you GUARANTEE that SLC WAS the best team in the nation

name it

You have some serious issues bud. You try your best to bring people into your idiotic little world.

I said TX does not always have the #1 team in the nation. I believe TX does in some years.

What is all this Name it crap?

[consumerman]

I have said many times that TX is not always going to have the #1 team in the nation. If SLC wins the state championship, this will be one of those years. TX depth will always be #1

name one year you absolutley are 100% sure Texas had the #1 team in the country

name more if you are feelling frisky

i think idiotict is the defintion of the statement you made

[RidgePride]

I have said many times that TX is not always going to have the #1 team in the nation. If SLC wins the state championship, this will be one of those years. TX depth will always be #1

name one year you absolutley are 100% sure Texas had the #1 team in the country

name more if you are feelling frisky

i think idiotict is the defintion of the statement you made

Why?
How can an opinion be proven? No team in the history of high school football can ever claim 100% absolute that they are #1 in the nation.
I am sure there isn't one as always but I'll ask, What is your point?

[St.X fan2]

Are you kidding me LMFAO....lets see...Lakeland 2006 kids....Where are they now?


RB Chris Rainey-Florida, HS AA, getting playing time
WR Paul Wilson-Florida
OL-MaurkicePouncey-Florida, starting left guard
OL-Mike Pouncey-Florida, getting into games at center
DT-John Brown- Florida, HS AA, seeing action
DB-Ahmad Black- Florida, seeing some action
LB-Steve Wilks-Florida
P-Justin Burdette-Florida
FB/RB-Jamar Taylor-Alabama but left for USF to be closer to his son, lol
TE/DE-Jordon Corbin-LSU
DB-Brian Valdez DB-Jacksonville

Yeah they werent stacked. To have EIGHT kids from one high school team go to the hottest program in the nation, who just won the freaking BCS championship is ridiculus. They had TEN SEC players, the best conference in the nation, on one team. Nearly half the freaking starters went to the SEC!! Thats a sick amount of talent. Couple that with the talent they had in 2005 and its no wonder they were even better in 2005. I actually think Im forgetting some players.

Nice post and I don't agree either with Ridge Pride on that topic (that Lakeland was not stacked last year).

[consumerman]

Why?
How can an opinion be proven? No team in the history of high school football can ever claim 100% absolute that they are #1 in the nation.
I am sure there isn't one as always but I'll ask, What is your point?

precisely

so what (and why) is that great statement you made that Texas will not always have the #1 team in the nation when you can NEVER determine who that is

THAT IS MY POINT

THANK YOU

[RidgePride]

precisely

so what (and why) is that great statement you made that Texas will not always have the #1 team in the nation when you can NEVER determine who that is

THAT IS MY POINT

THANK YOU

We get on the board to express an opinion. If every opinion is shot down with your idiotic "Prove it with 100% certainty" We would have no conversations on any message board.

I don't think it is ridiculous to believe that the #1 team in the nation usually comes from TX, Fl, Cali, OH.

Can you not understand how incredibly ignorant your "point" (if you want to call it that) is?
Of course not - I don't know why I asked.

[consumerman]

a redneck with an attitude

god does it get worse than that?

[ThEfOoTbAlLsTaTe]

a redneck with an attitude

god does it get worse than that?

Yeah, an oil-spiller who thinks they play football in Ohio.

[RidgePride]

Nice post and I don't agree either with Ridge Pride on that topic (that Lakeland was not stacked last year).

Lets see how many close games MNW has this year. Lakeland had several nailbiters.

[steeler 01]

Lets see how many close games MNW has this year. Lakeland had several nailbiters.

MNW has had 1 close game in Florida already.

[SLCDad]

MNW has had 1 close game in Florida already.

Didn't MNW have six turnovers in that game?

[St.X fan2]

Yeah, an oil-spiller who thinks they play football in Ohio.

Football State:

I don't know why you haven't figured out yet that consumerman is from CA not OH. Yes, they do play some good football in Ohio. Moeller was a machine in the 70s and 80s with 7 state titles and 4 national titles. Ignatius has won 9 state titles and 3 national titles. Canton McKinley has 3 state titles and they have been national champs before also. There was an article in the the Cincinnati paper claiming that Ohio is the best cold weather football state in the country. I think that is correct.:)

[steeler 01]

Didn't MNW have six turnovers in that game?

Since when are turnovers not part of the game?

[Chicago]

"Football State:

I don't know why you haven't figured out yet that consumerman is from CA not OH."

I have a pretty good idea why.

[Chicago]

I've read five for Moeller -- 1976, 1977, 1979, 1980, and the first USA Today title in 1982. And I believe they were #1 USA Today before they lost in the playoffs in 1983 (to Princeton) and 1984 (to Centerville).